Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for review

2010-01-14 Thread KwangYul Seo
I will check the issue as soon as possible and let you know the
result.  In case there is a legal problem with BREW with regard to
NDA, BREW MP can be used instead because BREW MP is an open platform.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Holger Freyther ze...@selfish.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 January 2010 18:23:21 Darin Adler wrote:
 Someone is porting WebKit to Qualcomm’s BREW. And there are many patches
  for that port; now a significant fraction of the unreviewed WebKit
  patches. Who’s going to review these? Is this a one-time code drop or is
  there an intent to maintain this port ongoing? Does the test suite work on
  the BREW platform yet? Will someone maintain a buildbot?

 I won’t be reviewing these patches myself until I know the answers to some
  of those questions.

 Last time I checked one needs to have a contract with Qualcomm (NDA) to get
 information (header files, documentation) that is beyond marketing bla bla.

 I would be interested if we are allowed to host and distribute the sourcecode
 that has used information which is under a NDA.



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Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for review

2010-01-14 Thread KwangYul Seo
Okay. I will add a new wiki page for the BREW port. Thanks.

Regards,
Kwang Yul Seo

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Ariya Hidayat ariya.hida...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is not a one-time code drop. We want to maintain the BREW port
 ongoing and will do everything that are required to keep the BREW port
 up and running. Porting DumpRenderTree is still under work, but we
 have a complete BREW port which works fine both in BREW device and
 simulator.

 Kwang, can you add the all information about the port to
 http://trac.webkit.org/wiki#WebKitPorts? I guess, make a new wiki page
 for that and add it to that list.


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Re: [webkit-dev] Remove underscore check in check-webkit-style?

2010-01-14 Thread Kenneth Christiansen
In Qt we only allow underscored in methods that start with qt_ and they are
used for private API, such as for the DRT and for API that we havent had the
time to API review, but are still needed by some other software products.

Kenneth

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote:
  Current check-webkit-style and the style bot complain if code uses
  identifiers with underscores in their names.  It turns out our code
  does this fairly often, especially in Qt and Gtk specific code, for
  example to interface with unit testing frameworks.  We could either:
 
  1) Teach check-webkit-style about these cases
  2) Remove the underscore check entirely
 
  My inclination is to do (2) because I haven't seen this check find
  many actual style problems.  However, if we think that (1) is the
  better road, I'll be happy to make that happen.

 I frequently forget the underscore rule (since all the other code I
 work on prefers underscores).  As a beneficiary of the style checker,
 I'd prefer to avoid (2) if possible.




 ditto.  this is a problem for many folks who work in both the chromium and
 webkit repositories.  levin's idea sounds best :)

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Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for review

2010-01-14 Thread KwangYul Seo
I created a wiki for the BREW port of WebKit.

https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BREW

Currently it contains preliminary information. I will add more
contents gradually.

Thanks,
Kwang Yul Seo


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 This is not a one-time code drop. We want to maintain the BREW port
 ongoing and will do everything that are required to keep the BREW port
 up and running. Porting DumpRenderTree is still under work, but we
 have a complete BREW port which works fine both in BREW device and
 simulator.

 Kwang, can you add the all information about the port to
 http://trac.webkit.org/wiki#WebKitPorts? I guess, make a new wiki page
 for that and add it to that list.


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Re: [webkit-dev] webkit.org/pending-review

2010-01-14 Thread Maciej Stachowiak


On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Eric Seidel wrote:


Oliver Hunt mentioned this evening that he found the
webkit.org/pending-review page confusing because it lists both
commit-queue? patches and review? patches.  I agreed.

I filed https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33656 to track
updating /pending-review to more modern review URL and made some
possible suggestions as to better URLs.  Maciej is the man with the
real URL magic though. :)

I'm not sure how /pending-review is managed, it does not seem to be
stored in WebKitSite/, perhaps someone on this list would know how to
change it?  Or would maybe folks have their own suggestions as to what
URL we should use for /pending-review (if so please update the bug).

/pending-review is used by http://nightly.webkit.org/start and may be
linked to from other places in the site, I don't know.


The page that pending-review points to actually has some nice  
properties in the way it lays things out, but in other ways its harder  
to read. I'd really like it if we could make a review queue page  
that's combines their best features and is nicer than either. This may  
be hard. The queries I personally like to use these days are:


http://tinyurl.com/y98qfjs (general patches, no bracket)
http://tinyurl.com/yjr2xru (patches needing port-specific review,  
[bracket] prefix)


Their main downside is that they do not sort by date of review request.

Regards,
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[webkit-dev] Video feature request

2010-01-14 Thread Zack S

Hi all,  

There's a feature that I would find useful that's not as far as I know a part 
of HTML5/Javascript in Webkit based browsers.  

Namely, I'd like to be able to open a video from within Javascript without 
necessarily wanting to play it, but rather I want to be able to extract frames 
out of it as image objects and/or to extract the corresponding sound portions 
of frames.  

Thanks. 

  
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Re: [webkit-dev] Video feature request

2010-01-14 Thread Oliver Hunt

On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Zack S wrote:

 Hi all,  
 
 There's a feature that I would find useful that's not as far as I know a part 
 of HTML5/Javascript in Webkit based browsers.  
 
 Namely, I'd like to be able to open a video from within Javascript without 
 necessarily wanting to play it, but rather I want to be able to extract 
 frames out of it as image objects and/or to extract the corresponding sound 
 portions of frames.  

I can't speak to the sound aspect of this, but you can get pixel data by 
painting a video to the canvas element.

--Oliver

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Re: [webkit-dev] webkit.org/pending-review

2010-01-14 Thread David Kilzer
I'm pretty sure it's set up as a redirect in the Apache config for webkit.org.

$ curl -I http://webkit.org/pending-review
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:19:39 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 OpenSSL/0.9.8l DAV/2 
mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.4
Location: 
https://bugs.webkit.org/request.cgi?action=queuerequester=product=type=reviewrequestee=component=group=requestee
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Based on the web form, I don't see a way to filter out commit-queue? 
attachments while keeping request? flagged attachments, though.

Dave



- Original Message 
 From: Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org
 To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 12:25:15 AM
 Subject: [webkit-dev] webkit.org/pending-review
 
 Oliver Hunt mentioned this evening that he found the
 webkit.org/pending-review page confusing because it lists both
 commit-queue? patches and review? patches.  I agreed.
 
 I filed https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33656 to track
 updating /pending-review to more modern review URL and made some
 possible suggestions as to better URLs.  Maciej is the man with the
 real URL magic though. :)
 
 I'm not sure how /pending-review is managed, it does not seem to be
 stored in WebKitSite/, perhaps someone on this list would know how to
 change it?  Or would maybe folks have their own suggestions as to what
 URL we should use for /pending-review (if so please update the bug).
 
 /pending-review is used by http://nightly.webkit.org/start and may be
 linked to from other places in the site, I don't know.
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] webkit.org/pending-review

2010-01-14 Thread William Siegrist
Yes, it is in the apache configs.  Just email me or assign the bug to me when 
you've figured out where you want it to go. 

-Bill


On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:23 AM, David Kilzer wrote:

 I'm pretty sure it's set up as a redirect in the Apache config for webkit.org.
 
 $ curl -I http://webkit.org/pending-review
 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:19:39 GMT
 Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 OpenSSL/0.9.8l DAV/2 
 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.4
 Location: 
 https://bugs.webkit.org/request.cgi?action=queuerequester=product=type=reviewrequestee=component=group=requestee
 Vary: Accept-Encoding
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Based on the web form, I don't see a way to filter out commit-queue? 
 attachments while keeping request? flagged attachments, though.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org
 To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 12:25:15 AM
 Subject: [webkit-dev] webkit.org/pending-review
 
 Oliver Hunt mentioned this evening that he found the
 webkit.org/pending-review page confusing because it lists both
 commit-queue? patches and review? patches.  I agreed.
 
 I filed https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33656 to track
 updating /pending-review to more modern review URL and made some
 possible suggestions as to better URLs.  Maciej is the man with the
 real URL magic though. :)
 
 I'm not sure how /pending-review is managed, it does not seem to be
 stored in WebKitSite/, perhaps someone on this list would know how to
 change it?  Or would maybe folks have their own suggestions as to what
 URL we should use for /pending-review (if so please update the bug).
 
 /pending-review is used by http://nightly.webkit.org/start and may be
 linked to from other places in the site, I don't know.
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Video feature request

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Marrin

On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote:

 
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Zack S wrote:
 
 Hi all,  
 
 There's a feature that I would find useful that's not as far as I know a 
 part of HTML5/Javascript in Webkit based browsers.  
 
 Namely, I'd like to be able to open a video from within Javascript without 
 necessarily wanting to play it, but rather I want to be able to extract 
 frames out of it as image objects and/or to extract the corresponding sound 
 portions of frames.  
 
 I can't speak to the sound aspect of this, but you can get pixel data by 
 painting a video to the canvas element.

There are cross-domain restrictions on this functionality, right?

-
~Chris
cmar...@apple.com




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Re: [webkit-dev] Video feature request

2010-01-14 Thread Oliver Hunt

On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Chris Marrin wrote:

 
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Zack S wrote:
 
 Hi all,  
 
 There's a feature that I would find useful that's not as far as I know a 
 part of HTML5/Javascript in Webkit based browsers.  
 
 Namely, I'd like to be able to open a video from within Javascript without 
 necessarily wanting to play it, but rather I want to be able to extract 
 frames out of it as image objects and/or to extract the corresponding sound 
 portions of frames.  
 
 I can't speak to the sound aspect of this, but you can get pixel data by 
 painting a video to the canvas element.
 
 There are cross-domain restrictions on this functionality, right?

The cross-origin restrictions are only present when reading back from the 
canvas - but any api that allowed someone to read or transmit the content of a 
video element from js would need to have the same restrictions.

--Oliver

 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Did I break the build?

2010-01-14 Thread Eric Seidel
We've seen some remarkable progress towards greener bots in the last week!

I've seen all of the bots roll green straight across 3 times in the
last 24 hours!  Small achievement, but better than before. :)

Still a huge number of flakey tests to de-flake though:
https://bugs.webkit.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=33296hide_resolved=1

-eric

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote:
 Oh, btw, you should see green all the way across, always.

 I'm currently chasing down the tests which are making some of the bots
 less reliable.

 The leaves of 
 https://bugs.webkit.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=33296hide_resolved=1
 are all the bot reliability issues I've seen in the last 12 hours. :(

 -eric

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote:
 http://build.webkit.org/console

 Will let you know.

 The tree has been very red today, and even redder yesterday.  I'm
 working on yet another bot to help with this...

 -eric


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Re: [webkit-dev] global new/delete operator in WebKit

2010-01-14 Thread Darin Adler
On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Yong Li wrote:

 Sorry for my English. does should be will.

I think your question is unclear. The WebKit project will not “ban” use of a 
global new/delete operator.

-- Darin

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Re: [webkit-dev] Video feature request

2010-01-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Adam Barth wrote:

 I'm not sure if we've implemented it yet, but we could let video 
 providers opt out of these protections using CORS.

That will be specified in HTML5 around the same time that the cross-site 
subtitle stuff is added (since that has the same problem).

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Re: [webkit-dev] Remove underscore check in check-webkit-style?

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Jerdonek
 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:49:05 -0800
 From: David Levin le...@google.com

 3) Stop checking code in gtk/qt platform directories for underscores?

 I think there are several other checks that code in some of these
 directories typically fail due to various issues (public api that should
 follow the standard public api format for that platform, etc.)

I made a bug report for this issue:

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33684

(This is distinct from the qt_ underscore issue, which has its own report:

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33663 )

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Re: [webkit-dev] Database in Worker context

2010-01-14 Thread Darin Adler
My main feedback on this plan would be to land and review the work in pieces 
that are as small as possible.

For example, factoring out the database bits into a separate database manager 
class should be done in an initial first pass that does not make other changes.

I’m also not sure I like classes with Manager in their name, but I suppose we 
have a lot of such classes (controllers, managers, etc.) in WebKit already.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Database in Worker context

2010-01-14 Thread Eric Uhrhane
Trying again; webkit-dev doesn't seem to like my @google.com address.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Eric Uhrhane er...@google.com wrote:
 Dmitry requested that I not pull stuff out into DatabaseManager at
 all, so that step got skipped.
 The first changelist [currently in review] does a bunch of refactoring
 to make the database-in-workers possible, but does not yet expose any
 new functionality.  I'm trying to keep the steps small, but I think it
 would have been hard to break this chunk any smaller.

     Eric

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote:
 My main feedback on this plan would be to land and review the work in pieces 
 that are as small as possible.

 For example, factoring out the database bits into a separate database 
 manager class should be done in an initial first pass that does not make 
 other changes.

 I’m also not sure I like classes with Manager in their name, but I suppose 
 we have a lot of such classes (controllers, managers, etc.) in WebKit 
 already.

    -- Darin



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Re: [webkit-dev] Database in Worker context

2010-01-14 Thread Darin Adler
On Jan 14, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Eric Uhrhane wrote:

 I think it would have been hard to break this chunk any smaller.

Any time you have a chunk and you’re wondering how it could be broken up 
smaller, please feel free to ask that question after cc'ing me on a bug. Maciej 
and I, in particular, have a lot of experience with this, much of dating from 
the first year of the Safari project. I made changes that were too large and 
learned “no apologies” strategies to break them up into much smaller pieces 
that were easier to get right and to read and review.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Database in Worker context

2010-01-14 Thread Dmitry Titov
+1 to small patches.

I've reviewed a couple of iterations of the patch in
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22725 and it was so far manageable,
although it could be split in 2 at least (inheritance change and
WorkerThread termination change). For future patches, definitely lets split
into smaller ones, 60kb is on a biggish side.

There is no DatabaseManager class anymore since the database-supporting
methods are being moved to ScriptExecutionContext from which both Document
and WorkerContext are derived from. Having a 'Context' to own another
'Manager' seemed like too much layers.

I lean to r+ the first patch after latest set of notes is addressed, more
eyes are always welcome though :-)

Dmitry

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote:

 On Jan 14, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Eric Uhrhane wrote:

  I think it would have been hard to break this chunk any smaller.

 Any time you have a chunk and you’re wondering how it could be broken up
 smaller, please feel free to ask that question after cc'ing me on a bug.
 Maciej and I, in particular, have a lot of experience with this, much of
 dating from the first year of the Safari project. I made changes that were
 too large and learned “no apologies” strategies to break them up into much
 smaller pieces that were easier to get right and to read and review.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for review

2010-01-14 Thread KwangYul Seo
Sure. I will open a public Git repository for potential reviewers. I
need to clean up the code before opening the complete source code
because some device-specific information is from a phone manufacturer
under NDA. I think it will take one or two days.Third party libraries
with BREW specific patches will also be available by then.

Thanks,
Kwang Yul Seo


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Adam Treat tr...@kde.org wrote:
 You have a complete port of BREW already?  Interesting.  Can you point to the
 complete sources so potential reviewers can have a look at what the state is?

 On Thursday 14 January 2010 07:02:24 am KwangYul Seo wrote:
 I created a wiki for the BREW port of WebKit.

 https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BREW

 Currently it contains preliminary information. I will add more
 contents gradually.

 Thanks,
 Kwang Yul Seo

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Ariya Hidayat ariya.hida...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  This is not a one-time code drop. We want to maintain the BREW port
  ongoing and will do everything that are required to keep the BREW port
  up and running. Porting DumpRenderTree is still under work, but we
  have a complete BREW port which works fine both in BREW device and
  simulator.
 
  Kwang, can you add the all information about the port to
  http://trac.webkit.org/wiki#WebKitPorts? I guess, make a new wiki page
  for that and add it to that list.
 
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for r eview

2010-01-14 Thread Eric Seidel
I don't feel like this question was ever answered.

Folks seem to be moving forward with setting up infrastructure for a
real port (which is good), but at least this question still remains.

Also, does the BREW port already have a DumpRenderTree implementation?
 When should we expect such?

-eric

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Holger Freyther ze...@selfish.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 January 2010 18:23:21 Darin Adler wrote:
 Someone is porting WebKit to Qualcomm’s BREW. And there are many patches
  for that port; now a significant fraction of the unreviewed WebKit
  patches. Who’s going to review these? Is this a one-time code drop or is
  there an intent to maintain this port ongoing? Does the test suite work on
  the BREW platform yet? Will someone maintain a buildbot?

 I won’t be reviewing these patches myself until I know the answers to some
  of those questions.

 Last time I checked one needs to have a contract with Qualcomm (NDA) to get
 information (header files, documentation) that is beyond marketing bla bla.

 I would be interested if we are allowed to host and distribute the sourcecode
 that has used information which is under a NDA.



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Re: [webkit-dev] Lots of “BREW” patches up for r eview

2010-01-14 Thread Eric Seidel
Most of the BREW patches look fine.  I'm happy to review them once
there is consensus on the list that WebKit is ready and willing to
accept a BREW port.

-eric

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote:
 I don't feel like this question was ever answered.

 Folks seem to be moving forward with setting up infrastructure for a
 real port (which is good), but at least this question still remains.

 Also, does the BREW port already have a DumpRenderTree implementation?
  When should we expect such?

 -eric

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Holger Freyther ze...@selfish.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 January 2010 18:23:21 Darin Adler wrote:
 Someone is porting WebKit to Qualcomm’s BREW. And there are many patches
  for that port; now a significant fraction of the unreviewed WebKit
  patches. Who’s going to review these? Is this a one-time code drop or is
  there an intent to maintain this port ongoing? Does the test suite work on
  the BREW platform yet? Will someone maintain a buildbot?

 I won’t be reviewing these patches myself until I know the answers to some
  of those questions.

 Last time I checked one needs to have a contract with Qualcomm (NDA) to get
 information (header files, documentation) that is beyond marketing bla bla.

 I would be interested if we are allowed to host and distribute the sourcecode
 that has used information which is under a NDA.



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[webkit-dev] questions about allow-tabs

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Jerdonek
I have some background questions about the allow-tabs property.  I
imagine it pre-dates check-webkit-style by quite a while.

(1) What's the reason and history behind our use of the property?

(2) What component actually does the pre-commit check?  I didn't find
a reference to allow-tabs in WebKitTools/, but maybe I searched
incorrectly.

(3) Roughly speaking, how many and what types of files have the property set?

(4) Are there any issues to be aware of with it when using a Git
repository for development?

While I'm asking, I might as well also ask -- what other subversion
properties do we use?

Thanks,
--Chris
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[webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have
on MathML at:

   https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703

I don't expect anyone to review this patch (unless they want to do so).  Since
I can't create a branch, I'm using this patch to store the current working
copy of my MathML code.

This patch handles stretchy operators and row layout fairly well.  It also
supports fractions, sub/superscripts, over/under, fencing, and tables.

I'm working on a status table that I'll put on the wiki somewhere that
will detail what works, partially works, or is not implemented.

I'll update this patch as I make progress or get smaller patches committed.

I plan on creating smaller patches that contain code from this patch and
as that gets committed, I'll update this bug with a new patch against the
trunk.

This pretty much invalidates the previous bug [1] I had for MathML support
as the code as change fairly significantly.

[1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29529


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Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote:

 I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have
 on MathML at:

   https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703

 I don't expect anyone to review this patch (unless they want to do so).
  Since
 I can't create a branch, I'm using this patch to store the current working
 copy of my MathML code.


Have you considered using git and creating local branches for yourself?

This patch handles stretchy operators and row layout fairly well.  It also
 supports fractions, sub/superscripts, over/under, fencing, and tables.

 I'm working on a status table that I'll put on the wiki somewhere that
 will detail what works, partially works, or is not implemented.

 I'll update this patch as I make progress or get smaller patches committed.

 I plan on creating smaller patches that contain code from this patch and
 as that gets committed, I'll update this bug with a new patch against the
 trunk.

 This pretty much invalidates the previous bug [1] I had for MathML support
 as the code as change fairly significantly.

 [1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29529


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Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote:

 I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have
 on MathML at:

   https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703

 I don't expect anyone to review this patch (unless they want to do so).
  Since
 I can't create a branch, I'm using this patch to store the current working
 copy of my MathML code.

 Have you considered using git and creating local branches for yourself?

Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't help me with distributing the
code to others who want to work with it.

...and I'd have to learn to use git.  Implementing MathML, learning all its
secrets, and understand rendering in WebKit has made my brain full.  ;)

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Re: [webkit-dev] questions about allow-tabs

2010-01-14 Thread David Kilzer
On Thu, January 14, 2010 at 6:59:17 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote:
 I have some background questions about the allow-tabs property.  I
 imagine it pre-dates check-webkit-style by quite a while.
 
 (1) What's the reason and history behind our use of the property?


The allow-tabs property (and the svn commit pre-hook) are the ultimate in style 
enforcement.  The project didn't want tabs in source files (or ChangeLog files) 
committed accidentally, so any file with tabs needs the special allow-tabs svn 
property set.

 (2) What component actually does the pre-commit check?  I didn't find
 a reference to allow-tabs in WebKitTools/, but maybe I searched
 incorrectly.


It's on the server itself.  I don't think it's available from the repository.

 (3) Roughly speaking, how many and what types of files have the property set?


Mostly test files and (potentially) legacy source files are the only ones with 
the property set.

 (4) Are there any issues to be aware of with it when using a Git
 repository for development?


No, just that you won't be able to use git svn dcommit when committing new 
files with tabs (or adding tabs to existing files).

 While I'm asking, I might as well also ask -- what other subversion
 properties do we use?


In the past, svn:eol-style has been applied so that when files are checked out 
on Windows, they have the proper line endings.  There is also a concerted 
effort to keep svn:mime-type set correctly on *-expected.png results for pixel 
tests committed via git.

Dave

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[webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA
meeting here in San Francisco.  After looking through my slides I feel
that I'm unsatisfied with what I'm telling people about where to go for
more information or to contribute to the project.

I'd like a better way for:

   * MathML in WebKit related discussions to take place,
   * dissemination of status,
   * collection of test cases, plans, roadmaps,
   * builds of a MathML enabled WebKit for testers.

While some of this can take place on the wiki, a separate mailing list
might be better for MathML+WebKit specific discussions.

What's the standard practice for this kind of thing?  I could certainly go
start a google group for this kind of discussion.

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Re: [webkit-dev] support for svg handler element

2010-01-14 Thread Dean Jackson

On 10/01/2010, at 1:27 AM, nagarjuna atluri wrote:

 Hai all,
 
 Is handler element for svg supported in webkit..
 can anyone help me out..

If you're talking about the XML Events handler element that
is mentioned in SVG 1.2, then the answer is no - it isn't supported.

Dean

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