[webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
Hi folks. It looks like another build variant that relies on threads not existing in WebKit and JavaScriptCore is OS(WINCE). Do you maintain OS(WINCE)? If so, are you interested in implemented JavaScriptCore threading primitives for it? If nobody maintains OS(WINCE), I'm inclined to remove it in a follow-up patch. Thanks, Geoff ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
I believe it was maintained by Torch Mobile, and, according to George Staikos, it is not part of the plans any more (Torch was acquired by RIM). Not sure of others using it though. If no one speak up, I would say it is safe to remove at this point. Cheers, On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Geoffrey Garen wrote: > Hi folks. > > It looks like another build variant that relies on threads not existing in > WebKit and JavaScriptCore is OS(WINCE). > > Do you maintain OS(WINCE)? If so, are you interested in implemented > JavaScriptCore threading primitives for it? > > If nobody maintains OS(WINCE), I'm inclined to remove it in a follow-up > patch. > > Thanks, > Geoff > ___ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > -- --Antonio Gomes ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
I also noticed that WINCE looks abandoned in my work on bug 68018 this morning. -eric On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Antonio Gomes wrote: > I believe it was maintained by Torch Mobile, and, according to George > Staikos, it is not part of the plans any more (Torch was acquired by RIM). > > Not sure of others using it though. If no one speak up, I would say it is > safe to remove at this point. > > Cheers, > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Geoffrey Garen wrote: >> >> Hi folks. >> >> It looks like another build variant that relies on threads not existing in >> WebKit and JavaScriptCore is OS(WINCE). >> >> Do you maintain OS(WINCE)? If so, are you interested in implemented >> JavaScriptCore threading primitives for it? >> >> If nobody maintains OS(WINCE), I'm inclined to remove it in a follow-up >> patch. >> >> Thanks, >> Geoff >> ___ >> webkit-dev mailing list >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org >> http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > > > > -- > --Antonio Gomes > > ___ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > > ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
Antonio, On 09/13/2011 04:00 PM, Antonio Gomes wrote: I believe it was maintained by Torch Mobile, and, according to George Staikos, it is not part of the plans any more (Torch was acquired by RIM). AFAIR, Patrick Gansterer (paroga) is still working on the WinCE port. He usually informally reviews CMake-related changes. Leandro ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Leandro Pereira wrote: > Antonio, > > On 09/13/2011 04:00 PM, Antonio Gomes wrote: >> >> I believe it was maintained by Torch Mobile, and, according to George >> Staikos, it is not part of the plans any more (Torch was acquired by RIM). >> > > AFAIR, Patrick Gansterer (paroga) is still working on the WinCE port. He > usually informally reviews CMake-related changes. I believe this is correct. He also maintains a buildbot: http://build.webkit.org/builders/WinCE%20Release%20%28Build%29 -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
Hi, Am 13.09.2011 um 21:37 schrieb Adam Roben: > On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Leandro Pereira wrote: > >> Antonio, >> >> On 09/13/2011 04:00 PM, Antonio Gomes wrote: >>> >>> I believe it was maintained by Torch Mobile, and, according to George >>> Staikos, it is not part of the plans any more (Torch was acquired by RIM). >>> >> >> AFAIR, Patrick Gansterer (paroga) is still working on the WinCE port. He >> usually informally reviews CMake-related changes. > > I believe this is correct. He also maintains a buildbot: > http://build.webkit.org/builders/WinCE%20Release%20%28Build%29 Yes, that's correct. How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe and usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't get paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps forward like other ports do. Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get maintained too. Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't see any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last months. So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the question about removal every few months! -- Patrick ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Gansterer wrote: > > Yes, that's correct. > > How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe and > usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't get > paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps > forward like other ports do. > Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get maintained > too. > Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't see > any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last months. > > So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the > question about removal every few months! Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of ports and the point of contact. - Ryosuke ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
We already have a list of reviewers and committers and it should mention which port people work on. Kenneth On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Gansterer > wrote: >> >> Yes, that's correct. >> >> How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe and >> usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't get >> paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps >> forward like other ports do. >> Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get maintained >> too. >> Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't >> see any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last >> months. >> >> So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the >> question about removal every few months! > > Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of ports and the point of > contact. > - Ryosuke > > ___ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > > -- Kenneth Rohde Christiansen Senior Engineer Application and Service Frameworks, Nokia Danmark A/S Phone +45 4093 0598 / E-mail kenneth.christiansen at gmail.com http://codeposts.blogspot.com ﹆﹆﹆ ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Gansterer wrote: > How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe and > usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't get > paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps > forward like other ports do. > Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get maintained > too. > Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't see > any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last months. I think this is a good question. We don't currently have many guidelines around this question. > So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the question > about removal every few months! I think you're unfortunately caught in the cross-fire of recent efforts to try and simply WebCore's configuration. There is an increasing burden to continued development of all the various #if switches in WebCore. We don't currently have any central way to view which ports have which #if's turned on vs. off. We don't even have a way to view what ports exist! All these #ifs make daily development difficult. In this example, Geoff is looking to get rid of the non-threaded JSC #if (to simplify code on all ports). WINCE currently builds with this option (intentionally or not). I think that you're right that we should better clarify what it means to be an "active" port, and what benefits/responsibilities such "activity" implies. -eric ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
I'm not sure if you refer to [1] or want to improve [2]. If I look at [1] I see Yong Li at the WinCE port too. That's correct for the knowledge of the code, but does not represent any current work done. Some guideline about how to maintain the list might be helpful too. [1] http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit%20Team [2] http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Tools/Scripts/webkitpy/common/config/committers.py Patrick Am 13.09.2011 um 23:44 schrieb Kenneth Rohde Christiansen: > We already have a list of reviewers and committers and it should > mention which port people work on. > > Kenneth > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Gansterer >> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, that's correct. >>> >>> How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe and >>> usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't get >>> paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps >>> forward like other ports do. >>> Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get maintained >>> too. >>> Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't >>> see any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last >>> months. >>> >>> So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the >>> question about removal every few months! >> >> Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of ports and the point of >> contact. >> - Ryosuke >> >> ___ >> webkit-dev mailing list >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org >> http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev >> >> > > > > -- > Kenneth Rohde Christiansen > Senior Engineer > Application and Service Frameworks, Nokia Danmark A/S > Phone +45 4093 0598 / E-mail kenneth.christiansen at gmail.com > > http://codeposts.blogspot.com ﹆﹆﹆ ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
On 09/13/2011 06:45 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: We don't even have a way to view what ports exist! > There is a ports.py file, in the same spirit there is a committers.py file, even though it does contain only a fraction of all the ports. Were it better maintained, one could add references to each contributor in committers.py. Being machine-readable, a post-commit hook that updates a page in the Wiki can be added to provide the same info in a human-readable format. Sheriffbot could also be teached about this. Leandro ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
Yeah, they're outdated to say the least. Can we merge those two lists? I think we can move information inside committers.py into a JSON file and load it automatically on the wiki. - Ryosuke On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Patrick Gansterer wrote: > I'm not sure if you refer to [1] or want to improve [2]. If I look at [1] I > see Yong Li at the WinCE port too. That's correct for the knowledge of the > code, but does not represent any current work done. > Some guideline about how to maintain the list might be helpful too. > > [1] http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit%20Team > [2] > http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Tools/Scripts/webkitpy/common/config/committers.py > > Patrick > > Am 13.09.2011 um 23:44 schrieb Kenneth Rohde Christiansen: > > > We already have a list of reviewers and committers and it should > > mention which port people work on. > > > > Kenneth > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Gansterer > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, that's correct. > >>> > >>> How do we measure an "active port"??? I maintain a buildbot for WinCe > and > >>> usually fix problems with the port within hours. Unfortunately I don't > get > >>> paid to work on WebKit the whole day and so I can't make such big steps > >>> forward like other ports do. > >>> Other active ports (e.g. wx) don't even have a buildbot and get > maintained > >>> too. > >>> Some configuration like BREWMP or HAIKU don't have buildbot and I can't > >>> see any build fixes or _upstraeming_ activity for them within the last > >>> months. > >>> > >>> So PLEASE: When do we call a port "active"? It's not cool to get the > >>> question about removal every few months! > >> > >> Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of ports and the point of > >> contact. > >> - Ryosuke > >> > >> ___ > >> webkit-dev mailing list > >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > >> http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Kenneth Rohde Christiansen > > Senior Engineer > > Application and Service Frameworks, Nokia Danmark A/S > > Phone +45 4093 0598 / E-mail kenneth.christiansen at gmail.com > > > > http://codeposts.blogspot.com ﹆﹆﹆ > > ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Do you maintain OS(WINCE)?
I'm not sure if it's that easy. ;-) We have different CPU(), OS(), PLATFORM() and USE() defines and they can be combined in many different ways, even if some ports are already handled via an simple PLATFORM(XY) macro. Patrick Am 14.09.2011 um 00:06 schrieb Leandro Pereira: > On 09/13/2011 06:45 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: >> >> We don't even have a way to view what ports exist! > > > > There is a ports.py file, in the same spirit there is a committers.py file, > even though it does contain only a fraction of all the ports. Were it better > maintained, one could add references to each contributor in committers.py. > > Being machine-readable, a post-commit hook that updates a page in the Wiki > can be added to provide the same info in a human-readable format. Sheriffbot > could also be teached about this. > > Leandro > ___ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev