Sample Launchd plists for WO Monitor and wotaskd

2006-07-10 Thread Ricardo Parada
Hi,Does anybody have sample launchd plists for starting wo monitor and wotaskd automatically?I know these files are present in OS X Server in the following directories:/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.wotaskd.plist /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.womonitor.plistBut I don't have a copy of OS X Server handy.  Anyone willing to share their plists for these two?Thanks :-)Ricardo Parada ___
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Ward


I think Pierre may be onto something with Eddie Rickenbackers.  I  
haven't been there in several years
(I don't live in the Bay Area any more) but I used to work right  
around the corner from there and it was
busy 6-7 pm.  After that people start going home and there's plenty  
of space.  Norm will keep the place

open for as long he can if he gets a crowd in there.

Alan

On Jul 10, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


On 11.07.2006, at 6:55 Uhr, King Chung Huang wrote:


Another vote for Monday.


+1

As it seems, there are a lot of people interested, we should think  
of a location capable of that crowd. Anybody a good suggestion for  
currently about 40+ people (estimated, not counted ... ;-))?


cug
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Re: Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Joe Little

Yes, its pretty damn big at this point. Question is wether the usual
Apple people might show up as well. If so, perhaps they can help at
least set us up somewhere (a tad more official) even if the
drinks/food is not covered.

On 7/10/06, Guido Neitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 11.07.2006, at 6:55 Uhr, King Chung Huang wrote:

> Another vote for Monday.

+1

As it seems, there are a lot of people interested, we should think of
a location capable of that crowd. Anybody a good suggestion for
currently about 40+ people (estimated, not counted ... ;-))?

cug
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Re: Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Joe Little

What's scary is that I think we have some 30-40+ people coming. Does
that sound right? Most of the places require money upfront or stuff to
load up a place :)

On 7/10/06, Pierre Frisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I will be at WWDC too. I would prefer Monday.

I am not local but I did work in the area for a while I would suggest:

Eddie Rickenbacker on second street.

Someone suggest the 21th amendment which is also a good venue but a
bit further.

See you there.

Pierre

On 8-Jul-06, at 5:31 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

> Anyone local to SF willing to recommend and reserve a venue?  It's
> looking like Monday night is the night of choice.
>
> ms
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> On Jul 8, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gavin Eadie wrote:
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>> At 3:34 PM -0700 7/8/06, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>> It was in some Irish pub last year.  We should aim for someplace
>>> larger this year so that it is not standing room only.
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>> ... viz: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken_anderson/sets/424925/
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Guido Neitzer

On 11.07.2006, at 6:55 Uhr, King Chung Huang wrote:


Another vote for Monday.


+1

As it seems, there are a lot of people interested, we should think of  
a location capable of that crowd. Anybody a good suggestion for  
currently about 40+ people (estimated, not counted ... ;-))?


cug
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread King Chung Huang

Another vote for Monday.

King Chung Huang

On Jul 10, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Karl Moskowski wrote:


monday++;

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On 10-Jul-06, at 9:39 PM, Graham J Lee wrote:


On 10/7/06 21:31, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

  Me too, monday!



Monday sounds good.
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Pierre Frisch

I will be at WWDC too. I would prefer Monday.

I am not local but I did work in the area for a while I would suggest:

Eddie Rickenbacker on second street.

Someone suggest the 21th amendment which is also a good venue but a  
bit further.


See you there.

Pierre

On 8-Jul-06, at 5:31 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Anyone local to SF willing to recommend and reserve a venue?  It's  
looking like Monday night is the night of choice.


ms

On Jul 8, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gavin Eadie wrote:


At 3:34 PM -0700 7/8/06, Chuck Hill wrote:
It was in some Irish pub last year.  We should aim for someplace  
larger this year so that it is not standing room only.


... viz: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken_anderson/sets/424925/
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Karl Moskowski

monday++;

--Karl  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On 10-Jul-06, at 9:39 PM, Graham J Lee wrote:


On 10/7/06 21:31, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

  Me too, monday!



Monday sounds good.
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Re: Entity inheritance and sorting: Bug or my fault?

2006-07-10 Thread Ian Joyner
OK, I think the original implication ("Entity inheritance") was that  
your lists were actually DB entities defined in your EOModel, but now  
it looks like they are WOComponents, so actually, your list  
components are controller objects mirroring your model objects. So at  
least that rules out problems in the EOModel design (I do too much  
Java-client stuff, where this pops up) due to interdependent  
inheritance hierarchies.


Ian

On 10/07/2006, at 6:34 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


On 10.07.2006, at 2:34 Uhr, Ian Joyner wrote:

I'm a bit uneasy about your design having as types CONTACT, USER,  
LIST and then CONTACT_LIST and USER_LIST. This does not suggest  
inheritance, ...


Let me explain that:

I have a situation where in most situations I want to see all types  
of contacts in one list. A contact may be a company or a person. An  
internal user is nothing else but a person with some additional  
stuff (for login/password and a pretty complex rights management).


A ContactList is a component which can be used to display contacts  
very generically. Each entity has a subcomponent for the "row level  
display" and this is dynamically set by a WOSwitchComponent.


A UserList is nothing else but a subclass of ContactList with  
completely different HTML.


So, the complete page could be like this:











where ContactList is a subclass of EmbeddedList. EmbeddedList is a  
very generic component for displaying lists - I can use it directly  
and configure it with some rules (which properties to display, some  
stuff how to display the column headers, the columns itself and so  
on - think of a customized D2W list component) or I can subclass it  
to use its functions (sorting, fetching, limiting result sets,  
paging, ... a lot of stuff I use in each and every list I show to  
the user) and only use customized HTML.


So you can think of "EmbeddedList" as a controller component with a  
generic but not often used integrated view and and all the other  
lists just use the functionality, add some custom stuff and use  
often very different HTML.


Example: I have components in the context sensitive stuff, that are  
also based on EmbeddedList, and display e.g. "Recently seen  
contacts" or "Recently changed activities" or whatever - they only  
push a different set of qualifiers to EmbeddedList and use  
different HTML. EmbeddedList decides whether to use a  
ERXBatchingDisplayGroup, a standard display group, applies  
SortOrderings, gives a generic method for inspecting objects and  
more. Most of this stuff is configured by rules or by overriden  
methods in the subclass.


This concept works VERY well for me at the moment, the whole  
application works this way (with edit pages, search pages, ...).  
Most of the stuff is based on KeyValueCoding, GenericRecords and  
some rules to decide what page to use if an object is selected.


cug



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storing objects in a WOApplication object

2006-07-10 Thread Luke Vanderfluit

Hi.

I have now solved this problem.
Kr.


Hi.

I'm very new to webobjects.

I'm trying to store an object in an application object.

I know that the WOApplication object is available but how do I put an
object in there, that I can retrieve at a later point.

Any help appreciated.

Kind regards.
Luke.

Luke Vanderfluit
Java Web Developer
Wellcom Group Limited




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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Graham J Lee

On 10/7/06 21:31, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

  Me too, monday!



Monday sounds good.
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Miguel Arroz

Hi!

  Me too, monday!

  Yours

Miguel Arroz

On 2006/07/10, at 21:25, Danny Wang wrote:


Ditto. Count me in as well!

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On Jul 10, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Peter wrote:


Monday is best for me also.  Count me in.



"We have no sympathy for the lost souls
We've chosen the path of disgrace
We give this life to our children
And teach them to hate this place" -- Apocalyptica, Life Burns!

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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Danny Wang

Ditto. Count me in as well!

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On Jul 10, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Peter wrote:


Monday is best for me also.  Count me in.

Pete

On 7/10/06, Pascal Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Monday would be fine

> After adding my votes to either Mon or Wed
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> People Coming So Far: 21
> Mon: 6 Total - 2 Prefer, 4 Are OK
> Tue: 1 Total - 1 Prefer
> Wed: 4 Total - 2 Prefer, 2 Are OK
> Thu: 1 Total - 1 Prefer
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Re: Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Peter

Monday is best for me also.  Count me in.

Pete

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Monday would be fine

> After adding my votes to either Mon or Wed
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> People Coming So Far: 21
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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Pascal Robert

Monday would be fine


After adding my votes to either Mon or Wed

People Coming So Far: 21
Mon: 6 Total - 2 Prefer, 4 Are OK
Tue: 1 Total - 1 Prefer
Wed: 4 Total - 2 Prefer, 2 Are OK
Thu: 1 Total - 1 Prefer

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Re: WWDC WO Meet

2006-07-10 Thread Shehryar Khan


There will be an Übermind contingent there.

+3

-shehryar

On Jul 9, 2006, at 3:42 AM, WODev wrote:


You can add 2 French to the list;)
we'll be there too and love to spend some time with the WO crew;)
We'd rather like monday too.

Nice to hear you might come Chuck:)

Xavier

It was in some Irish pub last year.  We should aim for someplace  
larger this year so that it is not standing room only.


Chuck

P.S. It looks like it might make it after all!

On Jul 8, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Alan Ward wrote:



and me.  The reception is usually over pretty early anyway.

Alan

On Jul 8, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Joe Little wrote:


Monday for me.


On 7/8/06, Mike Schrag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

After adding my votes to either Mon or Wed

People Coming So Far: 21
Mon: 6 Total - 2 Prefer, 4 Are OK
Tue: 1 Total - 1 Prefer
Wed: 4 Total - 2 Prefer, 2 Are OK
Thu: 1 Total - 1 Prefer

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Re: WebObjects training

2006-07-10 Thread Matteo Centro
Try with P&L Systems... I believe.Good luckMatteoOn 10-lug-06, at 13:21, Gavin Armstrong wrote:    Matteo,   Thanks for that. I'm struggling to find anyone who provides the courses in the UK is it possible to do them online? I've emailed Apple a few times but can't get a reply out of them. They seem to be very expensive so patience and books might be the only way forward. Ang suggestions for the books? Patience could be trickier with two young kids :)   Cheers,   GavinFrom: Matteo Centro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 July 2006 12:14To: Gavin ArmstrongCc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.comSubject: Re: WebObjects training The courses ARE good... as a first introduction to WO without the feeling of drowning :)  IMHO, with lots of patience and a few good books you should be able to learn by yourself!  My advice is: If you can, take the courses (at least the first one)... Consider that i'm a trainer, so my opinion might be skewed :)  MatteoOn 10-lug-06, at 13:02, Gavin Armstrong wrote: Hi everyone, I'm struggling with WebObjects not least because   I'm new to Java and programming in general. What I could really do with is   training off someone who know's WebObjects. Due to work and family commitments   I'm trying to find some kind of online course that I can study at my pace.   I've got pretty much all the books on WebObjects but still feel as though I'm   drowning. Anybody got any suggestions? Also has anybody taken the Apple courses (Web   400 Internet Application Development Using WebObjects  and Web 410   Advanced WebObjects Development) are they any good or should I just hang on   for Chuck's new book.Hope someone can help. Thanks very much, Gavin Armstrong http://www.bbc.co.uk/This e-mail (and   any attachments) is confidential and may containpersonal views which are   not the views of the BBC unless specificallystated.If you have   received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy   or disclose the information in any way nor act inreliance on it and notify   the sender immediately. Please note that theBBC monitors e-mails sent or   received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.   ___  Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be   ignored.  Webobjects-dev mailing list      (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)  Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:  http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.itThis email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bbc.co.uk/This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may containpersonal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specificallystated.If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act inreliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that theBBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ___
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Re: WebObjects training

2006-07-10 Thread Elizabeth Lynch
Hi Gavin   Thanks for that. I'm struggling to find anyone who provides the courses in the UK is it possible to do them online? I've emailed Apple a few times but can't get a reply out of them. They seem to be very expensive so patience and books might be the only way forward. Ang suggestions for the books? Patience could be trickier with two young kids :) As Apple's UK WebObjects Training Partner we offer the courses in the UK - in fact we have a public 'Developing Internet Applications with WebObjects' running next week (July 17-21) with three places available.http://www.plsys.co.uk/schedule.htmGet in touch with me for more information.RegardsLiz---Liz LynchP&L Software, UK ___
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RE: WebObjects training

2006-07-10 Thread Gavin Armstrong



 
Matteo,
 
Thanks for that. I'm struggling to find anyone who 
provides the courses in the UK is it possible to do them online? I've emailed 
Apple a few times but can't get a reply out of them. They seem to be very 
expensive so patience and books might be the only way forward. Ang suggestions 
for the books? Patience could be trickier with two young kids 
:)
 
Cheers,
 
Gavin



From: Matteo Centro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 July 2006 12:14To: Gavin ArmstrongCc: 
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training
The courses ARE good... as a first introduction to WO without the 
feeling of drowning :) 
IMHO, with lots of patience and a few good books you should be able to 
learn by yourself!

My advice is: If you can, take the courses (at least the first one)... 
Consider that i'm a trainer, so my opinion might be skewed :)

Matteo



On 10-lug-06, at 13:02, Gavin Armstrong wrote:

  Hi everyone, 
  I'm struggling with WebObjects not least because 
  I'm new to Java and programming in general. What I could really do with is 
  training off someone who know's WebObjects. Due to work and family commitments 
  I'm trying to find some kind of online course that I can study at my pace. 
  I've got pretty much all the books on WebObjects but still feel as though I'm 
  drowning. Anybody got any suggestions?
   Also has anybody taken the Apple courses (Web 
  400 Internet Application Development Using WebObjects  and Web 410 
  Advanced WebObjects Development) are they any good or should I just hang on 
  for Chuck's new book.
  Hope someone can help. Thanks very much, 

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Re: WebObjects training

2006-07-10 Thread Matteo Centro
The courses ARE good... as a first introduction to WO without the feeling of drowning :) IMHO, with lots of patience and a few good books you should be able to learn by yourself!My advice is: If you can, take the courses (at least the first one)... Consider that i'm a trainer, so my opinion might be skewed :)MatteoOn 10-lug-06, at 13:02, Gavin Armstrong wrote:Hi everyone, I'm struggling with WebObjects not least because I'm new to Java and programming in general. What I could really do with is training off someone who know's WebObjects. Due to work and family commitments I'm trying to find some kind of online course that I can study at my pace. I've got pretty much all the books on WebObjects but still feel as though I'm drowning. Anybody got any suggestions? Also has anybody taken the Apple courses (Web 400 Internet Application Development Using WebObjects  and Web 410 Advanced WebObjects Development) are they any good or should I just hang on for Chuck's new book.Hope someone can help. Thanks very much, Gavin Armstrong   http://www.bbc.co.uk/This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may containpersonal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specificallystated.If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act inreliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that theBBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ___Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.Webobjects-dev mailing list      (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.itThis email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ___
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WebObjects training

2006-07-10 Thread Gavin Armstrong
Title: WebObjects training






Hi everyone,


I'm struggling with WebObjects not least because I'm new to Java and programming in general. What I could really do with is training off someone who know's WebObjects. Due to work and family commitments I'm trying to find some kind of online course that I can study at my pace. I've got pretty much all the books on WebObjects but still feel as though I'm drowning. Anybody got any suggestions?

 Also has anybody taken the Apple courses (Web 400 Internet Application Development Using WebObjects  and Web 410 Advanced WebObjects Development) are they any good or should I just hang on for Chuck's new book.

Hope someone can help. Thanks very much,


Gavin Armstrong



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Re: Entity inheritance and sorting: Bug or my fault?

2006-07-10 Thread Guido Neitzer

On 10.07.2006, at 2:34 Uhr, Ian Joyner wrote:

I'm a bit uneasy about your design having as types CONTACT, USER,  
LIST and then CONTACT_LIST and USER_LIST. This does not suggest  
inheritance, ...


Let me explain that:

I have a situation where in most situations I want to see all types  
of contacts in one list. A contact may be a company or a person. An  
internal user is nothing else but a person with some additional stuff  
(for login/password and a pretty complex rights management).


A ContactList is a component which can be used to display contacts  
very generically. Each entity has a subcomponent for the "row level  
display" and this is dynamically set by a WOSwitchComponent.


A UserList is nothing else but a subclass of ContactList with  
completely different HTML.


So, the complete page could be like this:











where ContactList is a subclass of EmbeddedList. EmbeddedList is a  
very generic component for displaying lists - I can use it directly  
and configure it with some rules (which properties to display, some  
stuff how to display the column headers, the columns itself and so on  
- think of a customized D2W list component) or I can subclass it to  
use its functions (sorting, fetching, limiting result sets,  
paging, ... a lot of stuff I use in each and every list I show to the  
user) and only use customized HTML.


So you can think of "EmbeddedList" as a controller component with a  
generic but not often used integrated view and and all the other  
lists just use the functionality, add some custom stuff and use often  
very different HTML.


Example: I have components in the context sensitive stuff, that are  
also based on EmbeddedList, and display e.g. "Recently seen contacts"  
or "Recently changed activities" or whatever - they only push a  
different set of qualifiers to EmbeddedList and use different HTML.  
EmbeddedList decides whether to use a ERXBatchingDisplayGroup, a  
standard display group, applies SortOrderings, gives a generic method  
for inspecting objects and more. Most of this stuff is configured by  
rules or by overriden methods in the subclass.


This concept works VERY well for me at the moment, the whole  
application works this way (with edit pages, search pages, ...). Most  
of the stuff is based on KeyValueCoding, GenericRecords and some  
rules to decide what page to use if an object is selected.


cug
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Re: Entity inheritance and sorting: Bug or my fault?

2006-07-10 Thread Guido Neitzer

On 10.07.2006, at 6:34 Uhr, Anjo Krank wrote:

But unless you find stuff in the docs that say it should fail, I'd  
rather think that the behaviour in such cases is undetermined...  
after all, it's still *your* bug.


Right - one thing is my fault - the other? I don't know. I'll file a  
request for it.


If you really think this should get fixed, then file an enhancement  
request.


Currently I think I should file a request that case one should be  
broken too - not fixed ... ;-)


And while you're at it, you can report the thing I came across  
yesterday: they should tell you *which* freaking model and  
connection dict it is that doesn't work when they give this "can't  
open channel, check your connection dict" exception. Who knows,  
maybe if *you* report it will get fixed :)


I'll try that, I had the same thing a couple of days ago.

cug

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