Re: Getting Started With WO site
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:50 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Yeah it seemed like it would be nicer going in, but once the content was in there it has been less than useful ... The one big benefit of it is that it's not going away any time soon, which can't necessarily be said of any place that might host a confluence for us. ObjectStyle.org has been up since 2001 and has no plans to shut down any time soon. It even outlived some of our hosting providers and survided 4 major infrastructure migrations. Although I wouldn't bet on us outliving the Wikipedia, so taking full XML backups is a good idea :-) Cheers, Andrus ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send an HTTP-Request and process the responding xml data
Hello list, can anybody give me a hint on how to send an http request to a server and process the xml response data with WO. Regards, William ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send an HTTP-Request and process the responding xml data
On 19 Jun 2007, at 10:27, William Gier wrote: can anybody give me a hint on how to send an http request to a server and process the xml response data with WO. At the crudest level, just use WOHTTPConnection. If the XML you are processing is XMLRPC or SOAP, then take a look at WOWebServiceClient, or use the Apache XMLRPC Java package. That should be enough to get started; let us know if you need any more information. Paul ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Started With WO site
I have the procedure (and the xml file) dump of the wikibook, if someone wants to write an xslt to convert it into whatever the import format is for confluence ... ms On Jun 19, 2007, at 5:26 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:50 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Yeah it seemed like it would be nicer going in, but once the content was in there it has been less than useful ... The one big benefit of it is that it's not going away any time soon, which can't necessarily be said of any place that might host a confluence for us. ObjectStyle.org has been up since 2001 and has no plans to shut down any time soon. It even outlived some of our hosting providers and survided 4 major infrastructure migrations. Although I wouldn't bet on us outliving the Wikipedia, so taking full XML backups is a good idea :-) Cheers, Andrus ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag% 40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox VS Safari
I've experienced the exact opposite. However, Firefox has Firebug - how does anyone live without it? Two questions: - Are you testing over HTTPS? - Have you tried Safari 3 beta? asa On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Anthony Arthur wrote: Normally I test/debug using Safari, suffering glacier-ly slow response times. Then I tried Firefox -- wow -- what a difference. Why does Safari respond so much more slowly than FF? Anyone else ever notice this and care to offer a reason? --Brian ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Started With WO site
I would like to volunteer to provide support for authors -- editing of content, not so much from the point of view of the correctness of the content, but from the point of view of clear written communication -- what should be added, deleted, re- arranged, elaborated -- that sort of thing. I can do this for contributions before they are posted or afterwards. I had quite of bit of experience with that sort of thing in a previous life and in a different technical arena. Since I am not a WO expert, I can sometimes see things in the writing that experts do not. Mike Warner On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:02 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: I am not sure that putting it in the WOCommunity site is the best idea. I will propose that a top level split is of longer term value. spaces in a Confluence website are somewhat isolated from each other, but it is still easy to make links between topics in each. Rather than have the stuff from the WikiBook jammed into WOCOM, would it not be more useful to provide something along the lines of: WOLips - for all things directly related to WOLips and Eclipse usage WOCOOM - for community related things, news, plans, associations, etc. Wonder - for all things directly related to Project Wonder WebObjects - for documentation on WebObjects WOTutorials - maybe part of WebObjects, maybe a separate space I think that having a top level differentiation like that will make it easier to locate the information that you want and easier to decide where to place new material. Chuck On Jun 18, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Q wrote: ++1 here. I really dislike trying to use the wiki book, I would much prefer to see content marshalled into the WOCommunity wiki, rather than into the wiki book. If the WOCOM wiki was the official centre of these efforts I would be much more included to spend time on it. On 19/06/2007, at 8:45 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: I also am less than thrilled with the WikiBook: - the process of adding images is painful - I am not sure if anything else can be added - searching just the WO content is either not possible or not clear - the markup is limited - no one has control over the backups etc. I have used Confluence quite a bit and find that to be much better for documenting technical material. Chuck On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: Agreed. How do we (and I guess by we I mean everybody on this list) come to an agreement on the one place that should be the definitive posting grounds? Honestly, I sometimes find navigating the wiki book less than ideal, but it's kind of a minor irritation that I can live with if it solves the problem of a central repository, and there's so much there already that it seems like the most logical place to me. Whatever it is, it should be publicly editable, I think, and it has to be searchable and individual articles must be linkable. Is anybody in disagreement that the wiki book is the best place ongoing to post information? If so, can we start an effort to shuttle information posted elsewhere into the wiki book if it is missing? If not, what are alternative suggestions for the central repository of information? Thanks, Mark On Jun 14, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Dana Kashubeck wrote: On 6/14/07 11:57 AM, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: My understanding is that the webobjects wiki book (http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) is trying to become the central point of documentation for WebObjects that people post to. There's already a ton of info there, but we all know it could use a ton more. At WOWODC, when the experts panel was asked what could be done to help with project wonder, this is what they came back with immediately: We need people writing documentation, and this is the place to put it. Even if it's bad, there are so many people watching it that bad info will get edited out quickly. I think there's a danger in having TOO many informational sites. If everybody decides to wing it because they get on a high at a developer's conference regarding being able to document stuff to widen the movement, I think we will end up with dozens of blogs, half finished tutorials, etc. There's a reason there isn't much documentation on Wonder and WebObjects: writing good documentation is HARD and time consuming, and not a very glamorous task. So if you have 10 spare hours to write a decent article on a very specific issue, I think everybody would be better served if that went to the wikibook. That way, everybody can always point to one resource as definitive. I don't mean to be preachy about it or rain on anybody's parade that is putting up yet another site about WebObjects. What I just wrote might sound snappy or mean, but I don't mean it that way. I'm just trying to advocate a central repository for everything so people don't have to go here and there to get various pieces of the overall puzzle.
Re: Firefox VS Safari
Hi, Anthony, Typically, when Safari is returning pages incredibly slowly for me, it's usually been due to host name confusion. I don't know why this would affect Safari and not Firefox, but I've experienced the problem. For more information, you might review this thread from 4/2006: http://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com/ msg03511.html Regards, Jerry On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Anthony Arthur wrote: Normally I test/debug using Safari, suffering glacier-ly slow response times. Then I tried Firefox -- wow -- what a difference. Why does Safari respond so much more slowly than FF? Anyone else ever notice this and care to offer a reason? --Brian ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jerrywwalker% 40gmail.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Jerry W. Walker, WebObjects Developer/Instructor for High Performance Industrial Strength Internet Enabled Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] 203 278-4085office ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Eclipse/WOLips] EOGenerator not generating files
Hi Cheong Hee, This is a known bug of WOLips. See [1] and [2] for details. There are patches for these issues, but it seems they still have not been applied. [1]http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/browse/WOL-361 [2]http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/browse/WOL-362 Cheers, Henrique Cheong Hee (Datasonic) wrote: Testing on the tutorial posted by Janine a while ago ... At the install EOGenerator 1.7 section (c), i supposed this is a minor to change: Go to Eclipse - Preferences - WOLips - EOGenerator meant Go to Window - Preferences - WOLips - EOGenerator The issue I am running into is the eogenerator seemed unable to generate the class files from Eclipse/WOLips. I am right-clicked LicensePlate.eogen and then WOLips Tools- EO Generate. No package is generated in src directory. The extract of the .eogen file looks as such: C:\CheongHee\UserAreaEclipse\Developer\Applications\eogenerator\eogenerator.exe -destination src -java -javaTemplate JavaSourceEOF52.eotemplate -model C:LicensePlate.eomodeld -packagedirs -subclassDestination src -subclassJavaTemplate JavaSubclassSourceEOF5.eotemplate -templatedir ../../../../UserAreaEclipse/Developer/Applications/eogenerator/Templates -verbose Note that there is a -model C:LicensePlate.eomodeld. Is this supposed to be -model LicensePlate.eomodeld ? Running on the command line, with slight modiification on -model LicensePlate.eomodeld, it did work. Cheers Cheong Hee ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hprange%40gmail.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \o/ Henrique Prange, Moleque de Idéias Educação e Tecnologia Ltda | Phone: 55-21-2710-0178 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ http://www.moleque.com.br ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
double/triple click (was: Re: [ANN] Tying my hands...)
Hi Pierre, interesting project you have there. Does it have a name? On 14. Jun. 2007, at 1:56, Pierre Bernard wrote: For Java I use Eclipse. Wish they had decent (Mac like) text editing: double-click, tripple click, bindings, ... For double/triple click see here: http://www.biffy-berlin.de/marc/doubleTripleClick_patch_322.zip That is for Eclipse 3.2.2, but there are patches for other versions too. What do you mean by bindings? Marc ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Started With WO site
On Jun 19, 2007, at 2:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: I can create a Confluence Wonder space if requested on ObjectStyle.org. Thank you Andrus, that is very generous of you. Just let me know who wants to be the main admin for that space and if there is a consensus among potential volunteer authors that the docs should be maintained there. I think I will leave that to someone else, I have too many things on the go at the moment. Chuck On Jun 19, 2007, at 2:30 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: The ObjectStyle wiki is not my site so I can't comment on what can or should be done. Right now they host a space/site for WOLips and one for the WO-Community. The stuff from the wiki book does not seem like it should go in either place. It would be cool if Wonder had its own space. Just ruminating. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WSDL via Direct Action?
I'm having trouble with the types schema of my WSDL. In the WIKI for WebServices Francis Labrie recommends sharing the WSDL through Direct Action. Can somebody explain how to do this please? Is anyone aware of another work-around? --Mat AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JS libraries used with WO
HA! thanks, chuck! yea, I've noticed that secret google site-- the question is, what people on the list doing a lot of AJAX type work lately? what sorts of things are you doing with it? I was sort of thinking discussion... jess On Jun 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: There is this very cool technology that you probably have not heard of. It is a pretty deep secret right now. The code name is Google. Here is a quick example: http://www.google.com/search?q=WebObjects+Ajax Wow! Chuck On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote: What sorts of JS libraries are people using for interface engineering, and what sorts of things are you doing with them? Is anyone using this one: http://script.aculo.us/ Anyone doing a lot of AJAX type work? jess ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JS libraries used with WO
Hi Jess, We've been using lots of prototype, excellent for ajax and is the basis for script.aculo.us. Scriptaculous/Prototype are the basis for the Project Wonder ajax framework, which is a great way to get started doing ajax with wo. Prototype: http://www.prototypejs.org/ Wonder: http://wonder.sourceforge.net/ some Ajax framework docs, but download the Ajax Examples with project wonder. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects/Project_WONDER/ Frameworks/Ajax It should be noted that starting to use ajax with your apps (if you are going to account for and deal with all of the possible error states) has a high development time cost, especially as your codebase grows. These days we are doing an ever increasing amount of ajax work. We use a mixture of prototype, project wonder, and our own JS (which we will probably be deprecating since prototype does an excellent job).The apps that we're using it in range from forms with related pulldowns/form fields that change fairly often, in place page replacement and editing, and basically any time we want to avoid a page refresh. We've found that once you've ajaxified one portion of your app, it isn't long before everything is ajax. later, asa On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote: What sorts of JS libraries are people using for interface engineering, and what sorts of things are you doing with them? Is anyone using this one: http://script.aculo.us/ Anyone doing a lot of AJAX type work? jess ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/a.talk% 40zenn.net This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
