Re: Any ideas how to minimize bot access?
Can you identify those bots by User-Agent? That would not disturb legitimate users. 2011/2/14 Amiel Montecillo bosyot...@gmail.com: Yeah that would be my last resort if I can't find a WO way to handling this. Thanks, Amiel On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Anthony Paras a...@earthlink.net wrote: Why don’t you implement a bot trap. For example... http://www.kloth.net/internet/bottrap.php On 2/13/11 11:16 PM, Amiel Montecillo bosyot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd appreciate it if anyone has any idea that he's willing to share how to minimize bad bots from accessing the site? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/genkush%40rujel.net This email sent to genk...@rujel.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Any ideas how to minimize bot access?
I looked at that but it is a legitimate user agent. Then again user agents can be spoofed by an app. Its grabbing data from the site which we don't like. Thanks, Amiel On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Gennady Kushnir genk...@rujel.net wrote: Can you identify those bots by User-Agent? That would not disturb legitimate users. 2011/2/14 Amiel Montecillo bosyot...@gmail.com: Yeah that would be my last resort if I can't find a WO way to handling this. Thanks, Amiel On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Anthony Paras a...@earthlink.net wrote: Why don’t you implement a bot trap. For example... http://www.kloth.net/internet/bottrap.php On 2/13/11 11:16 PM, Amiel Montecillo bosyot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd appreciate it if anyone has any idea that he's willing to share how to minimize bad bots from accessing the site? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/genkush%40rujel.net This email sent to genk...@rujel.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Employing mod_deflate Apache module
Hello list! I've just tried to compress traffic produced by my WOApp but I only succeeded in compressing static resources (css and js). Here is my configuration fragment. IfModule mod_deflate.c AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html application/xhtml+xml text/plain text/xml \ text/css text/javascript application/x-javascript application/javascript /IfModule Does anybody know what should be written to Apache mod_deflate configuration so that it also compress WO-generated pages? Regards, Gennady ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Employing mod_deflate Apache module
If it's a Wonder app, add this to you Properties and you're done: er.extensions.ERXApplication.responseCompressionEnabled=true Timo Am 14.02.2011 um 09:59 schrieb Gennady Kushnir: Hello list! I've just tried to compress traffic produced by my WOApp but I only succeeded in compressing static resources (css and js). Here is my configuration fragment. IfModule mod_deflate.c AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html application/xhtml+xml text/plain text/xml \ text/css text/javascript application/x-javascript application/javascript /IfModule Does anybody know what should be written to Apache mod_deflate configuration so that it also compress WO-generated pages? Regards, Gennady ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/th-dev%40onlinehome.de This email sent to th-...@onlinehome.de ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Deployment question: WO puts IP address in URL when using HTTPS
Hi there, one of my clients runs a WO application on a Linux box behind a firewall. The internal IP of the box is e.g. 192.168.1.100. The external IP (through the firewall) is e.g. 1.2.3.4. Running the app using HTTP is no problem, since all Link-URLs are built as URIs only, e.g. a href=/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/... But if we use HTTPS, the Link-URLs are built as full URLs using the internal IP address, e.g. a href=https://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...; Links like this are - obviously - not accessable through the firewall. Any ideas? A magic switch in Wonder, I was missing ... Thx, C.U.CW -- Christoph WickDirector Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Deployment question: WO puts IP address in URL when using HTTPS
Hi John, thanks for your hint. Unfortunately the apache config is not the problem here, but it is WebObjects (or Wonder) that puts the IP-Addresses into the URL if you are using HTTPS. What I need are relativ URLs (without IPs), because the app shall be accessible from both, before and behind the firewall. C.U.CW -- Christoph WickDirector Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 On 14.02.2011, at 16:13, John Huss wrote: This is determined by the ServerName setting in apache, which is probably not matching your regular (http) settings. John On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de wrote: Hi there, one of my clients runs a WO application on a Linux box behind a firewall. The internal IP of the box is e.g. 192.168.1.100. The external IP (through the firewall) is e.g. 1.2.3.4. Running the app using HTTP is no problem, since all Link-URLs are built as URIs only, e.g. a href=/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/... But if we use HTTPS, the Link-URLs are built as full URLs using the internal IP address, e.g. a href=https://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...; Links like this are - obviously - not accessable through the firewall. Any ideas? A magic switch in Wonder, I was missing ... Thx, C.U.CW -- Christoph WickDirector Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
[MEETING] REMINDER WO-NoVA is TOMORROW 2/15/2011
Greetings all, REMINDER: WO-NoVA is moving back to Tuesday, and as such, this month's meeting will be TOMORROW (Tuesday 2/15/2011). The topic will be differences between WebObjects and Cocoa, their different design patterns and related considerations. Eventually, this may develop into a formal presentation at some sort of conference or another. We may also discuss possible locations for future meetings, if we decide to change. We will of course also discuss whatever other topics come to mind (like my own guerrilla effort to create a simple WebObjects app to act as an APNS push server for my new company's iOS apps). And beer. The location for this meeting is as usual, K12, Inc. 2300 Corporate Park Drive Herndon, VA 20171 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=2300+Corporate+Park+Dr,+Herndon,+VA+20171sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=55.016555,76.992187ie=UTF8hq=hnear=2300+Corporate+Park+Dr,+Herndon,+Fairfax,+Virginia+20171z=17 Hope to see you all there. Yes, even you. Andrew Kinnie ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Employing mod_deflate Apache module
It is not Wonder app. Why make such tricks whereas Apache should do that already? 2011/2/14 Timo Hoepfner th-...@onlinehome.de: If it's a Wonder app, add this to you Properties and you're done: er.extensions.ERXApplication.responseCompressionEnabled=true Timo Am 14.02.2011 um 09:59 schrieb Gennady Kushnir: Hello list! I've just tried to compress traffic produced by my WOApp but I only succeeded in compressing static resources (css and js). Here is my configuration fragment. IfModule mod_deflate.c AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html application/xhtml+xml text/plain text/xml \ text/css text/javascript application/x-javascript application/javascript /IfModule Does anybody know what should be written to Apache mod_deflate configuration so that it also compress WO-generated pages? Regards, Gennady ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/th-dev%40onlinehome.de This email sent to th-...@onlinehome.de ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Deployment question: WO puts IP address in URL when using HTTPS
As I remember, WO uses -WOHost runtime environment variable to form such urls. As to me, I use my own method to form secure URLs depending on client IP. Maybe Wonder offers some hook for that, let's wait for other replies. 2011/2/14 Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de: Hi John, thanks for your hint. Unfortunately the apache config is not the problem here, but it is WebObjects (or Wonder) that puts the IP-Addresses into the URL if you are using HTTPS. What I need are relativ URLs (without IPs), because the app shall be accessible from both, before and behind the firewall. C.U.CW -- Christoph Wick Director Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 On 14.02.2011, at 16:13, John Huss wrote: This is determined by the ServerName setting in apache, which is probably not matching your regular (http) settings. John On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de wrote: Hi there, one of my clients runs a WO application on a Linux box behind a firewall. The internal IP of the box is e.g. 192.168.1.100. The external IP (through the firewall) is e.g. 1.2.3.4. Running the app using HTTP is no problem, since all Link-URLs are built as URIs only, e.g. a href=/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/... But if we use HTTPS, the Link-URLs are built as full URLs using the internal IP address, e.g. a href=https://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...; Links like this are - obviously - not accessable through the firewall. Any ideas? A magic switch in Wonder, I was missing ... Thx, C.U.CW -- Christoph Wick Director Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/genkush%40rujel.net This email sent to genk...@rujel.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Deployment question: WO puts IP address in URL when using HTTPS
On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Gennady Kushnir wrote:
As I remember, WO uses -WOHost runtime environment variable to form such urls.
WOHost is used for communications with wotaskd. The variable you are thinking
of is WOCGIAdaptorURL
See
http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/#documentation/WebObjects/WOAppProperties/Articles/ApplicationProperties.html%23//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40005337-SW1
As to me, I use my own method to form secure URLs depending on client IP.
Maybe Wonder offers some hook for that, let's wait for other replies.
If you are using Wonder, it should be taking this from the headers sent by
Apache, so it could indeed be an Apache config problem. See ERXRequest:
protected static final NSArrayString HOST_NAME_KEYS = new
NSArrayString(new String[]{x-forwarded-host, Host,
x-webobjects-server-name, server_name, http_host});
Chuck
2011/2/14 Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de:
Hi John, thanks for your hint.
Unfortunately the apache config is not the problem here, but it is
WebObjects (or Wonder) that puts the IP-Addresses into the URL if you are
using HTTPS.
What I need are relativ URLs (without IPs), because the app shall be
accessible from both, before and behind the firewall.
C.U.CW
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On 14.02.2011, at 16:13, John Huss wrote:
This is determined by the ServerName setting in apache, which is probably
not matching your regular (http) settings.
John
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de wrote:
Hi there,
one of my clients runs a WO application on a Linux box behind a firewall.
The internal IP of the box is e.g. 192.168.1.100. The external IP (through
the firewall) is e.g. 1.2.3.4.
Running the app using HTTP is no problem, since all Link-URLs are built as
URIs only, e.g. a href=/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...
But if we use HTTPS, the Link-URLs are built as full URLs using the
internal IP address, e.g. a
href=https://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...;
Links like this are - obviously - not accessable through the firewall.
Any ideas? A magic switch in Wonder, I was missing ...
Thx,
C.U.CW
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Re: Deployment question: WO puts IP address in URL when using HTTPS
Hi Christoph, We did face the same problem some time ago. Relative URLs are not getting generated with wonder. The full URLs are getting generated with the server name given in apache config. Please check the apache config. -- Kalpana. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de wrote: Hi John, thanks for your hint. Unfortunately the apache config is not the problem here, but it is WebObjects (or Wonder) that puts the IP-Addresses into the URL if you are using HTTPS. What I need are relativ URLs (without IPs), because the app shall be accessible from both, before and behind the firewall. C.U.CW -- Christoph WickDirector Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 On 14.02.2011, at 16:13, John Huss wrote: This is determined by the ServerName setting in apache, which is probably not matching your regular (http) settings. John On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Christoph Wick c.w...@academy.de wrote: Hi there, one of my clients runs a WO application on a Linux box behind a firewall. The internal IP of the box is e.g. 192.168.1.100. The external IP (through the firewall) is e.g. 1.2.3.4. Running the app using HTTP is no problem, since all Link-URLs are built as URIs only, e.g. a href=/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/... But if we use HTTPS, the Link-URLs are built as full URLs using the internal IP address, e.g. a href= https://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/WebObjects/App.woa/...; Links like this are - obviously - not accessable through the firewall. Any ideas? A magic switch in Wonder, I was missing ... Thx, C.U.CW -- Christoph WickDirector Software Development STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info --- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Amtsgericht Köln, Reg.Nr.: HRB 55306 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kalpana.vaka%40evergent.com This email sent to kalpana.v...@evergent.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Redirect Permanent Header and Rewrite
I think it would be easiest to do this all in Apache with a rewrite rule. On Feb 13, 2011, at 4:53 AM, ute Hoffmann wrote: Hallo, I need to give a Redirect Permanent header back to search engines in the process to from one Direct Action URLpattern to a more search engine freindly rewrite URL. I would either do a WORedirect via the old direct Action to the new rewrite URL and would like to give back with the URL a redirect Permanent header. Would this URL hit the search engine or would it not hit the search engine but be processed by the WebServer first thus loosing this special header? Can I do a WORdeirect and put the redirect Permanent in the header at all? Or is it really enough to put the Redirect Permanet Flag into the Apache Webserver for the rewrite and redirect the old URL just to the new one (without the need to manipulate the header in the Application? Or do I need to list all old URL's and redirect them manually in Apache permanent to the new rewritten URL's via Mod Alias... (well, quite some work)... Can anyone please give some advice? Regards, Ute ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mailing software
We are sending emails via gmail using 10 seconds delay. Works yet. 2011/2/11 Miguel Arroz ar...@guiamac.com: Hey Anjo, In essence, you have to throttle down the mail sending rate. Services like GMail and others will block your IP temporarily if they see a burst of emails coming from it to them. Regards, Miguel Arroz On 2011/02/11, at 12:51, Anjo Krank wrote: Hi, has anyone built direct marketing/personalized email software with WO (or used any reasonable package) that he'd like to share experiences with? I find my stuff is getting rejected probably due to the speed at which I sent mails out, but before I go around stumbling in the dark, it'd be great to hear people who have already been there... Cheers, Anjo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to ar...@guiamac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/genkush%40rujel.net This email sent to genk...@rujel.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Informix Adaptor
Hello; Has anybody had a go at creating an Informix JDBC plugin for EOF? cheers. -- Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Informix Adaptor
We did one at Apple for the CHCS II Project. I don't know where that is now, but Ubermind helped us build one. Paul On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello; Has anybody had a go at creating an Informix JDBC plugin for EOF? cheers. -- Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com This email sent to p...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
