Re: Deployment script

[Jeffrey Schmitz]

Thanks Ted,
  I’m giving it a look and already have a question.  I downloaded the 
hypervisor, but I’m not sure what to do with it.  I’m thinking I need another 
program to manage the VMs, but I don’t know what that is.  I’m sure this is a 
very basic question, but it’s the stuff you get stuck on when looking at 
anything new.

Jeff

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> i was the same way. if you want help, just ask. Getting away from OSX for 
> deployment is really the way to go. Apple does an update, and you are screwed!
> 
> Here are the setps:
> 1. create an account at vmware.
> 2. dowload the free esxi, and burn it to a dvd
> 
> you actually wipe out the osx installation and the mac mini is taken over by 
> esxi!
> 
> of course you could also experiment with Amazon Web Services. you can create 
> a free account that you can learn the ropes with. (it’s free for one year)
> 
> I have done both.
> 
> AWS of course has it’s advantages.
> 
> JMHO BTW
> 
> Ted
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz > > wrote:
>> 
>> Fear of the unknown vs. the enemy I know :-)
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Theodore Petrosky >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have to ask. why do you want to bang your head against a wall to use OSX? 
>>> Vmware esxi is free, allows you to put a linux distro on a mac mini 
>>> (multiple instances if you want). I use this in the office to have multiple 
>>> centos instances on a mac mini. one is for postgresql and the other is for 
>>> apache. It works great and you can use YUM for updates.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks guys,
I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
 question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google 
 indicates no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to 
 use home-brew or macports for that instead, is that correct?
 
 Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the 
 path of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the 
 equation for me.
 
 Thanks again,
 Jeff
 
> On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky  > wrote:
> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you 
> everything you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on 
> an OS X box, there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However 
> curl is a little different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
> 
> wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>  
> --no-check-certificate
> becomes
> curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>  
> >JavaMonitor.tgz 
> 
> I have linked to my version of the install script:  
> http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
> 
> 
> compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
> 
> 
> My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
> 
> at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am 
> not sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should 
> get you thinking about what you can do.
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz 
>> mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
>>> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
>>> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
>>> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns 
>>> out to be a laborious process, at least for me.
>> 
>> You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and 
>> ideal for scripting to automate for the future. What platform are you 
>> using? We use a (now heavily customised) version of a script Simon 
>> McLean posted to the list in 2010:
>> 
>> http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>> 
>> 
>> Eyeballing it again now, you'll definitely want to customise it in 
>> places—you shouldn't need to pull down Wonder source, or build 

Re: Deployment script

[Theodore Petrosky]

i was the same way. if you want help, just ask. Getting away from OSX for 
deployment is really the way to go. Apple does an update, and you are screwed!

Here are the setps:
1. create an account at vmware.
2. dowload the free esxi, and burn it to a dvd

you actually wipe out the osx installation and the mac mini is taken over by 
esxi!

of course you could also experiment with Amazon Web Services. you can create a 
free account that you can learn the ropes with. (it’s free for one year)

I have done both.

AWS of course has it’s advantages.

JMHO BTW

Ted

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz  
> wrote:
> 
> Fear of the unknown vs. the enemy I know :-)
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Theodore Petrosky > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have to ask. why do you want to bang your head against a wall to use OSX? 
>> Vmware esxi is free, allows you to put a linux distro on a mac mini 
>> (multiple instances if you want). I use this in the office to have multiple 
>> centos instances on a mac mini. one is for postgresql and the other is for 
>> apache. It works great and you can use YUM for updates.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
>>> question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google 
>>> indicates no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to use 
>>> home-brew or macports for that instead, is that correct?
>>> 
>>> Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the 
>>> path of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the 
>>> equation for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Jeff
>>> 
 On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky >>> > wrote:
 
 Jeffrey,
 
 Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you 
 everything you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on 
 an OS X box, there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However 
 curl is a little different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
 
 wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
  
 --no-check-certificate
 becomes
 curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
  
 >JavaMonitor.tgz 
 
 I have linked to my version of the install script:  
 http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
 
 
 compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
 
 
 My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
 
 at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am 
 not sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should 
 get you thinking about what you can do.
 
 Ted
 
 
> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz  > wrote:
> 
>> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
>> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
>> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
>> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns 
>> out to be a laborious process, at least for me.
> 
> You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and 
> ideal for scripting to automate for the future. What platform are you 
> using? We use a (now heavily customised) version of a script Simon McLean 
> posted to the list in 2010:
> 
> http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
> 
> 
> Eyeballing it again now, you'll definitely want to customise it in 
> places—you shouldn't need to pull down Wonder source, or build your own 
> adapter, for example. But it gives you an idea of what you can do. We use 
> our version of it on Amazon Linux on EC2. Should be easily portable to 
> other Unixes.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul Hoadley
> https://logicsquad.net/ 
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ 
> 
> 
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Re: Deployment script

[Jeffrey Schmitz]

Fear of the unknown vs. the enemy I know :-)

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> I have to ask. why do you want to bang your head against a wall to use OSX? 
> Vmware esxi is free, allows you to put a linux distro on a mac mini (multiple 
> instances if you want). I use this in the office to have multiple centos 
> instances on a mac mini. one is for postgresql and the other is for apache. 
> It works great and you can use YUM for updates.
> 
> Ted
> 
> https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks guys,
>>I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
>> question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google 
>> indicates no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to use 
>> home-brew or macports for that instead, is that correct?
>> 
>> Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the 
>> path of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the 
>> equation for me.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jeffrey,
>>> 
>>> Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you everything 
>>> you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on an OS X box, 
>>> there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However curl is a little 
>>> different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
>>> 
>>> wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>  
>>> --no-check-certificate
>>> becomes
>>> curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>  
>>> >JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>> 
>>> I have linked to my version of the install script:  
>>> http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
>>> 
>>> at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am 
>>> not sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should 
>>> get you thinking about what you can do.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz >>> > wrote:
 
> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns 
> out to be a laborious process, at least for me.
 
 You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and ideal 
 for scripting to automate for the future. What platform are you using? We 
 use a (now heavily customised) version of a script Simon McLean posted to 
 the list in 2010:
 
 http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
 
 
 Eyeballing it again now, you'll definitely want to customise it in 
 places—you shouldn't need to pull down Wonder source, or build your own 
 adapter, for example. But it gives you an idea of what you can do. We use 
 our version of it on Amazon Linux on EC2. Should be easily portable to 
 other Unixes.
 
 
 -- 
 Paul Hoadley
 https://logicsquad.net/ 
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ 
 
 
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Re: Deployment script

[Jeffrey Schmitz]

Thanks guys,
   I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google indicates 
no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to use home-brew or 
macports for that instead, is that correct?

Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the path 
of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the equation for 
me.

Thanks again,
Jeff

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you everything 
> you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on an OS X box, 
> there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However curl is a little 
> different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
> 
> wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>  
> --no-check-certificate
> becomes
> curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>  
> >JavaMonitor.tgz 
> 
> I have linked to my version of the install script:  
> http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
> 
> 
> compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
> 
> 
> My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
> 
> at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am not 
> sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should get you 
> thinking about what you can do.
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz > > wrote:
>> 
>>> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
>>> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
>>> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
>>> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns out 
>>> to be a laborious process, at least for me.
>> 
>> You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and ideal 
>> for scripting to automate for the future. What platform are you using? We 
>> use a (now heavily customised) version of a script Simon McLean posted to 
>> the list in 2010:
>> 
>> http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>> 
>> 
>> Eyeballing it again now, you'll definitely want to customise it in 
>> places—you shouldn't need to pull down Wonder source, or build your own 
>> adapter, for example. But it gives you an idea of what you can do. We use 
>> our version of it on Amazon Linux on EC2. Should be easily portable to other 
>> Unixes.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Paul Hoadley
>> https://logicsquad.net/ 
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ 
>> 
>> 
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