Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread Fabian Peters

Am 13.05.2010 um 21:18 schrieb David LeBer:

> 
> On 2010-05-13, at 3:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Le 10-05-13 à 15:10, ISHIMOTO Ken a écrit :
>> 
>>> But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that List.
>>> 
>>> Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.
>>> 
>>> Japanese  OK
>>> Germany   OK
>>> English OK
>>> 
>>> French ?
>> 
>> We always use UTF-16 for Localizable.strings
> 
> ditto

+1 for English, German, French and Spanish.

> 
>> 
>>> Italien ?
>>> .
>>> 
>>> more
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>> 
 I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)
 
 
 On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
 
> I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language 
> have no Problems with UTF-8.
> 
> But you are right there are many other Language out there.
> 
> Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
> Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
> to make all Templates in Japanese.
> 
> But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 
> 7-8 different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
> "It just works"
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files 
>> contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  
>> That is easy to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single 
>> byte encoding which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, 
>> that is the problem that WO has in determining the encoding.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
>> 
>>> That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last 
>>> time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better 
>>> because when I create a new project using a project template, the 
>>> .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark 
>>> them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't 
>>> have to think about it.
>>> 
>>> Ramsey
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>> 
 In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
 
 With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no 
 trouble anymore.
 
 FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
 everywhere as have to deal
 
 with a lot different encodings in an application.
 
 Greetings Ken Ishimoto
 
 iPadから送信
 
 On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, 
> A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
> 
> Cheers, Anjo
> 
> 
> 
> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>> 
>> Ramsey
>> 
>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>> 
>>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in 
>>> UTF16. Has something changed recently?
>>> 
>>> d
>>> 
>>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
 In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
 problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the 
 individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the 
 project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 
 1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had - thanks 
 to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature and 
 allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need 
 and having re-imported them to the new project they are now 
 working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly 
 with the localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I 
 remember I had to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some 
 setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel 
 like all the files in my projects are now getting some kind of 
 consistency with regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, 
 WOLips and BBEdit :)
 
 Regards,
 David.
 
 
 On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 
 I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the 

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-05-13, at 3:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 10-05-13 à 15:10, ISHIMOTO Ken a écrit :
> 
>> But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that List.
>> 
>> Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.
>> 
>> Japanese  OK
>> Germany   OK
>> English OK
>> 
>> French ?
> 
> We always use UTF-16 for Localizable.strings

ditto

> 
>> Italien ?
>> .
>> 
>> more
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>> 
 I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language 
 have no Problems with UTF-8.
 
 But you are right there are many other Language out there.
 
 Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
 Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
 to make all Templates in Japanese.
 
 But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 
 7-8 different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
 "It just works"
 
 Ken
 
 
 On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files 
> contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  That 
> is easy to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single byte 
> encoding which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, that 
> is the problem that WO has in determining the encoding.
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
> 
>> That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last 
>> time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better 
>> because when I create a new project using a project template, the 
>> .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark 
>> them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't 
>> have to think about it.
>> 
>> Ramsey
>> 
>> On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>> 
>>> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
>>> 
>>> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no 
>>> trouble anymore.
>>> 
>>> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
>>> everywhere as have to deal
>>> 
>>> with a lot different encodings in an application.
>>> 
>>> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
>>> 
>>> iPadから送信
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>> 
 You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, 
 A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 
 
 Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
 
> +1
> 
> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
> 
>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in 
>> UTF16. Has something changed recently?
>> 
>> d
>> 
>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
>>> problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the 
>>> individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the 
>>> project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 
>>> 1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had - thanks 
>>> to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature and 
>>> allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need 
>>> and having re-imported them to the new project they are now working 
>>> great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the 
>>> localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had 
>>> to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug 
>>> somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the 
>>> files in my projects are now getting some kind of consistency with 
>>> regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> David.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> 
>>> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in 
>>> BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I 
>>> leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to 
>>> then open correctly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-05-13 à 15:10, ISHIMOTO Ken a écrit :

But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that  
List.


Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.

Japanese  OK
Germany   OK
English OK

French ?


We always use UTF-16 for Localizable.strings


Italien ?
.

more


On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:


I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)


On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3  
Language have no Problems with UTF-8.


But you are right there are many other Language out there.

Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to  
UTF-8 last Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now

to make all Templates in Japanese.

But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are  
about 7-8 different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like

"It just works"

Ken


On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:

I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string  
files contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in  
Unicode.  That is easy to detect.  Western European languages use  
mostly single byte encoding which is harder to differentiate from  
non-Unicode.  IIRC, that is the problem that WO has in  
determining the encoding.



Chuck


On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:

That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.   
Last time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8  
would be better because when I create a new project using a  
project template, the .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't  
seem to have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd  
prefer one encoding so I simply don't have to think about it.


Ramsey

On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:


In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.

With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and  
no trouble anymore.


FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use  
it everywhere as have to deal


with a lot different encodings in an application.

Greetings Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:

You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which  
replaces, say, A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain  
ascii.


Cheers, Anjo



Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:


+1

UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)

Ramsey

On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:

It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to  
be in UTF16. Has something changed recently?


d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

In case it should help anyone else in this kind of  
situation, the problem here was definitely to do with the  
encoding of the individual files.  Somehow, a small number  
of the files in the project must have remained in another  
encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even  
know what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just  
opens them using its auto-detect feature and allowed me to  
re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and  
having re-imported them to the new project they are now  
working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode,  
particularly with the localizable.strings files.  I don't  
know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert them  
to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.   
Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my  
projects are now getting some kind of consistency with  
regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and  
BBEdit :)


Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the  
file in BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly  
formatted.  If I leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it  
as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.


Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the  
best solution is using BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that  
with imported code.


Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith > wrote:


Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project,  
where else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points  
where it can be changed.


Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check  
this under the various file / directory Properties in  
Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I  
am having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed  
that on some of the pages I am getting two strange  
symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if  
I click in some text and try to delete it letter by  
letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one  
cha

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that List.

Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.

Japanese  OK
Germany   OK
English OK

French ?
Italien ?
.

more


On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:

> I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
>> I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language have 
>> no Problems with UTF-8.
>> 
>> But you are right there are many other Language out there.
>> 
>> Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
>> Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
>> to make all Templates in Japanese.
>> 
>> But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 7-8 
>> different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
>> "It just works"
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files contain 
>>> Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  That is easy 
>>> to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single byte encoding 
>>> which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, that is the 
>>> problem that WO has in determining the encoding.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
>>> 
 That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last time 
 I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better because 
 when I create a new project using a project template, the .strings are 
 always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a 
 template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't have to think about 
 it.
 
 Ramsey
 
 On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
 
> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
> 
> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no trouble 
> anymore.
> 
> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
> everywhere as have to deal
> 
> with a lot different encodings in an application.
> 
> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
> 
> iPadから送信
> 
> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
> 
>> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, A| 
>> with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
>> 
>> Cheers, Anjo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>>> 
>>> Ramsey
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>>> 
 It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in 
 UTF16. Has something changed recently?
 
 d
 
 On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 
> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
> problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual 
> files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have 
> remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I 
> don't even know what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just 
> opens them using its auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save 
> them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and having re-imported 
> them to the new project they are now working great.  This seemed to 
> happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the localizable.strings 
> files.  I don't know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert 
> them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  
> Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my projects are 
> now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their encoding, 
> thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in 
> BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I 
> leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to 
> then open correctly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution 
> is using BBEdit.
> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with 
> imported code.
> 
> Ken Ishimoto
> 
> iPadから送信
> 
> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  
> wrote:
>

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread Chuck Hill

I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)


On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3  
Language have no Problems with UTF-8.


But you are right there are many other Language out there.

Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8  
last Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now

to make all Templates in Japanese.

But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are  
about 7-8 different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like

"It just works"

Ken


On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:

I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files  
contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in  
Unicode.  That is easy to detect.  Western European languages use  
mostly single byte encoding which is harder to differentiate from  
non-Unicode.  IIRC, that is the problem that WO has in determining  
the encoding.



Chuck


On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:

That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.   
Last time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would  
be better because when I create a new project using a project  
template, the .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to  
have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd prefer one  
encoding so I simply don't have to think about it.


Ramsey

On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:


In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.

With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no  
trouble anymore.


FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use  
it everywhere as have to deal


with a lot different encodings in an application.

Greetings Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:

You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces,  
say, A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.


Cheers, Anjo



Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:


+1

UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)

Ramsey

On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:

It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be  
in UTF16. Has something changed recently?


d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation,  
the problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of  
the individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files  
in the project must have remained in another encoding,  
probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know what  
encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them  
using its auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them  
as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and having re- 
imported them to the new project they are now working great.   
This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the  
localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I  
had to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some  
setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to  
feel like all the files in my projects are now getting some  
kind of consistency with regard to their encoding, thanks to  
Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)


Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file  
in BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly  
formatted.  If I leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as  
UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.


Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best  
solution is using BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that  
with imported code.


Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  
 wrote:


Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project,  
where else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points  
where it can be changed.


Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this  
under the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am  
having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that  
on some of the pages I am getting two strange symbols as  
the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in  
some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to  
delete twice each time to delete one character.  If I then  
type some new text, it appears fine in the file but when I  
load it in a browser it shows as chinese characters.  The  
rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear  
like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the  
beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange  
behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language have no 
Problems with UTF-8.

But you are right there are many other Language out there.

Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
to make all Templates in Japanese.

But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 7-8 
different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
"It just works"

Ken


On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:

> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files contain 
> Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  That is easy to 
> detect.  Western European languages use mostly single byte encoding which is 
> harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, that is the problem that WO 
> has in determining the encoding.
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
> 
>> That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last time I 
>> attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better because when 
>> I create a new project using a project template, the .strings are always 
>> UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a template. 
>>  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't have to think about it.
>> 
>> Ramsey
>> 
>> On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>> 
>>> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
>>> 
>>> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no trouble 
>>> anymore.
>>> 
>>> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
>>> everywhere as have to deal
>>> 
>>> with a lot different encodings in an application.
>>> 
>>> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
>>> 
>>> iPadから送信
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>> 
 You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, A| 
 with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 
 
 Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
 
> +1
> 
> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
> 
>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in UTF16. 
>> Has something changed recently?
>> 
>> d
>> 
>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
>>> problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual 
>>> files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have 
>>> remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I 
>>> don't even know what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just 
>>> opens them using its auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them 
>>> as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and having re-imported them to 
>>> the new project they are now working great.  This seemed to happen a 
>>> lot in XCode, particularly with the localizable.strings files.  I don't 
>>> know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  
>>> Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting 
>>> to feel like all the files in my projects are now getting some kind of 
>>> consistency with regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips 
>>> and BBEdit :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> David.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> 
>>> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit 
>>> with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on 
>>> auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open 
>>> correctly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> David.
>>> 
>>> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>> 
>>> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution 
>>> is using BBEdit.
>>> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with 
>>> imported code.
>>> 
>>> Ken Ishimoto
>>> 
>>> iPadから送信
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
 Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else 
 can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be 
 changed.
 
 Regards,
 David.
 
 On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the 
 various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
 
 
 On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having 
> trouble upd

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread Chuck Hill
I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files  
contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.   
That is easy to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single  
byte encoding which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.   
IIRC, that is the problem that WO has in determining the encoding.



Chuck


On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:

That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.   
Last time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be  
better because when I create a new project using a project template,  
the .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to  
mark them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply  
don't have to think about it.


Ramsey

On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:


In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.

With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no  
trouble anymore.


FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it  
everywhere as have to deal


with a lot different encodings in an application.

Greetings Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:

You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces,  
say, A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.


Cheers, Anjo



Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:


+1

UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)

Ramsey

On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:

It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be  
in UTF16. Has something changed recently?


d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation,  
the problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the  
individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the  
project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO  
Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had  
- thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect  
feature and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever  
other format I need and having re-imported them to the new  
project they are now working great.  This seemed to happen a  
lot in XCode, particularly with the localizable.strings files.   
I don't know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert  
them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.   
Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my projects  
are now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their  
encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)


Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file  
in BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.   
If I leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it  
seems to then open correctly.


Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best  
solution is using BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that  
with imported code.


Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  
 wrote:


Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project,  
where else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points  
where it can be changed.


Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this  
under the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am  
having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on  
some of the pages I am getting two strange symbols as the  
first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in some  
text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete  
twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some  
new text, it appears fine in the file but when I load it in a  
browser it shows as chinese characters.  The rest of the page  
is fine, only the new characters appear like this.  If I  
delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the  
file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case  
it might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something  
to do with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to  
UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual encoding on  
any given page.  I have had this problem (or something  
similar) before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the  
'convert' command to actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it  
was either saved in some other format or was corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an  
equivalent 'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set  
the encoding for any given document?


Regards,
David. 

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-13 Thread Ramsey Lee Gurley
That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last time I 
attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better because when I 
create a new project using a project template, the .strings are always UTF-8.  
WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd 
prefer one encoding so I simply don't have to think about it.

Ramsey

On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
> 
> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no trouble 
> anymore.
> 
> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it everywhere 
> as have to deal
> 
> with a lot different encodings in an application.
> 
> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
> 
> iPad$B$+$iAw?.(B
> 
> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
> 
>> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, .AN| 
>> with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
>> 
>> Cheers, Anjo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>>> 
>>> Ramsey
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>>> 
 It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in UTF16. 
 Has something changed recently?
 
 d
 
 On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 
> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the problem 
> here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual files.  
> Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have remained in 
> another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know 
> what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its 
> auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever 
> other format I need and having re-imported them to the new project they 
> are now working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, 
> particularly with the localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I 
> remember I had to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some 
> setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all 
> the files in my projects are now getting some kind of consistency with 
> regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit 
> with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on 
> auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is 
> using BBEdit.
> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported 
> code.
> 
> Ken Ishimoto
> 
> iPad$B$+$iAw?.(B
> 
> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can 
>> I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> David.
>> 
>> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the 
>> various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having 
>>> trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the 
>>> pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML 
>>> file.  Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it letter by 
>>> letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one character.  If I 
>>> then type some new text, it appears fine in the file but when I load it 
>>> in a browser it shows as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is 
>>> fine, only the new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two 
>>> strange characters at the beginning of the file it seems to create even 
>>> more strange behaviour.
>>> 
>>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might 
>>> be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with 
>>> encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure 
>>> how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I have had this 
>>> problem (or something similar) before in XCode and as I remember I had 
>>> to use the 'convert' command to actually convert the file to UTF-8 as 
>>> it was either saved in some other format or was corru

Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.

With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no trouble 
anymore.

FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it everywhere 
as have to deal

with a lot different encodings in an application.

Greetings Ken Ishimoto

iPad$B$+$iAw?.(B

On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:

> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, .AN| 
> with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
> 
> Cheers, Anjo
> 
> 
> 
> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>> 
>> Ramsey
>> 
>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>> 
>>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in UTF16. 
>>> Has something changed recently?
>>> 
>>> d
>>> 
>>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
 In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the problem 
 here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual files.  
 Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have remained in 
 another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know 
 what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its 
 auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever 
 other format I need and having re-imported them to the new project they 
 are now working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly 
 with the localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had 
 to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug 
 somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my 
 projects are now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their 
 encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
 
 Regards,
 David.
 
 
 On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 
 I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit 
 with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on 
 auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.
 
 Thanks!
 
 David.
 
 On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
 
 For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is 
 using BBEdit.
 I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported 
 code.
 
 Ken Ishimoto
 
 iPad$B$+$iAw?.(B
 
 On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:
 
> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can 
> I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the 
> various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having 
>> trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages 
>> I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  
>> Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I 
>> have to delete twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type 
>> some new text, it appears fine in the file but when I load it in a 
>> browser it shows as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, 
>> only the new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two strange 
>> characters at the beginning of the file it seems to create even more 
>> strange behaviour.
>> 
>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might 
>> be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with 
>> encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure 
>> how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I have had this 
>> problem (or something similar) before in XCode and as I remember I had 
>> to use the 'convert' command to actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it 
>> was either saved in some other format or was corrupted.
>> 
>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 
>> 'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any 
>> given document?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> David. ___
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread Anjo Krank
You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, .AN| 
with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.

Cheers, Anjo



Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:

> +1
> 
> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
> 
>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in UTF16. Has 
>> something changed recently?
>> 
>> d
>> 
>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the problem 
>>> here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual files.  
>>> Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have remained in 
>>> another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know what 
>>> encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its 
>>> auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever 
>>> other format I need and having re-imported them to the new project they are 
>>> now working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with 
>>> the localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had to 
>>> constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere 
>>> in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my projects 
>>> are now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their encoding, 
>>> thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> David.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> 
>>> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit 
>>> with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on 
>>> auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> David.
>>> 
>>> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>> 
>>> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is 
>>> using BBEdit.
>>> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported 
>>> code.
>>> 
>>> Ken Ishimoto
>>> 
>>> iPad$B$+$iAw?.(B
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
 Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
 set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.
 
 Regards,
 David.
 
 On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the 
 various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
 
 
 On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having 
> trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages 
> I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  
> Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I 
> have to delete twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type 
> some new text, it appears fine in the file but when I load it in a 
> browser it shows as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, 
> only the new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two strange 
> characters at the beginning of the file it seems to create even more 
> strange behaviour.
> 
> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be 
> a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I 
> have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check 
> the actual encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or 
> something similar) before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 
> 'convert' command to actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either 
> saved in some other format or was corrupted.
> 
> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 
> 'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any 
> given document?
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley

+1

UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)

Ramsey

On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:

It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in  
UTF16. Has something changed recently?


d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the  
problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the  
individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the  
project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin  
1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had - thanks  
to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature and  
allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need  
and having re-imported them to the new project they are now working  
great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the  
localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had  
to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug  
somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the  
files in my projects are now getting some kind of consistency with  
regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)


Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in  
BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I  
leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to  
then open correctly.


Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best  
solution is using BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with  
imported code.


Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith   
wrote:


Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where  
else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can  
be changed.


Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under  
the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am  
having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on  
some of the pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first  
entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try  
to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time  
to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it  
appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows  
as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the  
new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two strange  
characters at the beginning of the file it seems to create even  
more strange behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it  
might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do  
with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but  
I'm not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.   
I have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode  
and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually  
convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other  
format or was corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent  
'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for  
any given document?


Regards,
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
I think that is only if you use them funny foreign languages that  
strange symbols to the Queen's Alphabet.  ;-)  UTF-8 (note NOT UTF8)  
is probably OK for non-western latin languages.


Chuck

On May 12, 2010, at 11:53 AM, David Holt wrote:

It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in  
UTF16. Has something changed recently?


d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the  
problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the  
individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the  
project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin  
1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had - thanks  
to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature and  
allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need  
and having re-imported them to the new project they are now working  
great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the  
localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had  
to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug  
somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the  
files in my projects are now getting some kind of consistency with  
regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)


Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in  
BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I  
leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to  
then open correctly.


Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best  
solution is using BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with  
imported code.


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On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith   
wrote:


Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where  
else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can  
be changed.


Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under  
the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am  
having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on  
some of the pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first  
entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try  
to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time  
to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it  
appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows  
as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the  
new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two strange  
characters at the beginning of the file it seems to create even  
more strange behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it  
might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do  
with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but  
I'm not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.   
I have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode  
and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually  
convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other  
format or was corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent  
'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for  
any given document?


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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread David Holt
It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in UTF16. Has 
something changed recently?

d

On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the problem 
> here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual files.  
> Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have remained in 
> another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know what 
> encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its 
> auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other 
> format I need and having re-imported them to the new project they are now 
> working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the 
> localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I remember I had to 
> constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in 
> XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my projects are 
> now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their encoding, thanks to 
> Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit with 
> UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on 
> auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is 
> using BBEdit.
> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported 
> code.
> 
> Ken Ishimoto
> 
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> 
> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
>> set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> David.
>> 
>> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the 
>> various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
>>> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am 
>>> getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, 
>>> if I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to 
>>> delete twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new 
>>> text, it appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows 
>>> as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new 
>>> characters appear like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the 
>>> beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
>>> 
>>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
>>> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I 
>>> have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the 
>>> actual encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something 
>>> similar) before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' 
>>> command to actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in 
>>> some other format or was corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
>>> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
>>> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread David Griffith
In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the problem here 
was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual files.  Somehow, a 
small number of the files in the project must have remained in another 
encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding 
they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature 
and allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and 
having re-imported them to the new project they are now working great.  This 
seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the localizable.strings 
files.  I don't know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert them to 
UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to 
feel like all the files in my projects are now getting some kind of consistency 
with regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)

Regards,
David.


On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit with 
UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on auto-detect, 
I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.

Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is using 
BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported code.

Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:

> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
> set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the various 
> file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
>> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am 
>> getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if 
>> I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete 
>> twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it 
>> appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
>> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear 
>> like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the 
>> file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
>> 
>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
>> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have 
>> set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
>> encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
>> before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
>> actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
>> format or was corrupted.
>> 
>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
>> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
>> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-12 Thread David Griffith
Hi Ken,

I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in BBEdit with 
UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I leave it on auto-detect, 
I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to then open correctly.

Thanks!

David.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is using 
BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported code.

Ken Ishimoto

iPadから送信

On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:

> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
> set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the various 
> file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
>> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am 
>> getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if 
>> I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete 
>> twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it 
>> appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
>> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear 
>> like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the 
>> file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
>> 
>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
>> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have 
>> set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
>> encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
>> before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
>> actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
>> format or was corrupted.
>> 
>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
>> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
>> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-10 Thread David Griffith

Yeah, have already done all that and no difference.

Regards,
David.

On 10 May 2010, at 18:07, Chuck Hill wrote:



On May 9, 2010, at 11:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where  
else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can  
be changed.


Right click on any file and select Properties.


Chuck




On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under  
the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having  
trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the  
pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the  
HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it  
letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one  
character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in the  
file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese  
characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters  
appear like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the  
beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange  
behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it  
might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do  
with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm  
not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I  
have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode and  
as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually  
convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other  
format or was corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent  
'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for  
any given document?


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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-10 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 9, 2010, at 11:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else  
can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be  
changed.


Right click on any file and select Properties.


Chuck




On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under  
the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having  
trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the  
pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the  
HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it  
letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one  
character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in the  
file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese  
characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters  
appear like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the  
beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it  
might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do  
with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm  
not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I  
have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode and as  
I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually convert  
the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other format or  
was corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent  
'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for  
any given document?


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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-10 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-05-10, at 2:38 AM, David Griffith wrote:

> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
> set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  

Eclipse -> Preferences -> General -> Workspace -> Text file encoding

This is the Workspace default, it can be overridden by ctrl clicking on any 
object (file or folder) and selecting Properties -> Text file encoding.

> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the various 
> file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
>> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am 
>> getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if 
>> I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete 
>> twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it 
>> appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
>> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear 
>> like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the 
>> file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
>> 
>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
>> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have 
>> set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
>> encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
>> before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
>> actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
>> format or was corrupted.
>> 
>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
>> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
>> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-10 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution is using 
BBEdit.
I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with imported code.

Ken Ishimoto

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On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith  wrote:

> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I 
> set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the various 
> file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
>> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am 
>> getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if 
>> I click in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete 
>> twice each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it 
>> appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
>> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear 
>> like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the 
>> file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
>> 
>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
>> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have 
>> set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
>> encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
>> before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
>> actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
>> format or was corrupted.
>> 
>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
>> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
>> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-09 Thread David Griffith
Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else can I set 
it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be changed.  

Regards,
David.

On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the various 
file / directory Properties in Eclipse.


On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
> updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am getting 
> two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click 
> in some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice 
> each time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it appears 
> fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear 
> like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the 
> file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.
> 
> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a 
> bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have 
> set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
> encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
> before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
> actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
> format or was corrupted.
> 
> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
> command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?
> 
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under the  
various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.



On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having  
trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the  
pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the  
HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it  
letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one  
character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in the  
file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese  
characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters  
appear like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the  
beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange behaviour.


I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it  
might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do  
with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm  
not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I have  
had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode and as I  
remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually convert the  
file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other format or was  
corrupted.


Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent  
'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for  
any given document?


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Re: Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-09 Thread David Griffith
Some more notes - updating Eclipse did not help although I didn't really think 
it would.
The same thing is happening when editing the WOD file.  Once I edit and save 
it, even to add/remove a character, it's like it is saving it in some strange 
foreign format that is not recognisable when WO tries to parse the file, 
although it looks perfectly fine in Eclipse.  I get the same behaviour as below 
in the WOD file. 

This happens in one WO Component, but in another it's perfectly fine and I can 
update it as I like with no problems.
I suspected corrupted files so I re-copied them from the originals, they work 
fine until I edit them, then the same behaviour.

It's crazy.  Makes no sense to me.

Regards,
David.

On May 9, 2010, at 9:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am getting 
two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in 
some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice each 
time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in 
the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese characters.  The 
rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear like this.  If I 
delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the file it seems to 
create even more strange behaviour.

I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a bug 
in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have set 
the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other format 
or was corrupted.

Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?

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Eclipse/WOLips Strange Chinese Characters

2010-05-09 Thread David Griffith
Hi all,

In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having trouble 
updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the pages I am getting 
two strange symbols as the first entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in 
some text and try to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice each 
time to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in 
the file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese characters.  The 
rest of the page is fine, only the new characters appear like this.  If I 
delete the two strange characters at the beginning of the file it seems to 
create even more strange behaviour.

I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it might be a bug 
in there, but it looks to me like something to do with encoding.  I have set 
the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm not sure how to check the actual 
encoding on any given page.  I have had this problem (or something similar) 
before in XCode and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to 
actually convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other format 
or was corrupted.

Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 'convert' 
command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for any given document?

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