Re: Golipse.app
On 2010-10-09, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. Golipse.app test build: https://files.me.com/dav1d/zri2jz ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
Ah - cool. There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would consider changing (IMHO). Pros - Always Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than have a script on a server continuously generate packages - Simplicity (big for me) Cons - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and then run, or are not constantly connected) - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a little crazy) - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar Questions - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download? - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download? - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail? - Is there a Cancel button? - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask? In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new feature (Package References) - so the package would download components remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back). I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks hereshould we shelve the turnkey in favor of something like this? Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one (maybe two) which will be the future newbie installerneed to get rid of the confusion there. Thanks, jeremy On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
On 2010-10-10, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Ah - cool. There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would consider changing (IMHO). Pros - Always Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than have a script on a server continuously generate packages - Simplicity (big for me) Cons - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and then run, or are not constantly connected) - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a little crazy) - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar Questions - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download? - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download? - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail? - Is there a Cancel button? Yes - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask? In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new feature (Package References) - so the package would download components remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back). I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks hereshould we shelve the turnkey in favor of something like this? Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one (maybe two) which will be the future newbie installerneed to get rid of the confusion there. This is just a simple Cocoa wrapper around Mike's shell script. As such it simply derives the appropriate download path and then calls through to an embedded version of the script with NSTask. It is not designed to be a replacement for anything, and to be completely honest, I have no interest in creating or supporting the next great installer. Mike's script is just really cool, and I wanted to make it easier to use. I have a wickedly fast internet connection right now, so I can have a complete eclipse install up and running in about 3 minutes. Which is awesome BTW. I might consider enhancing Mike's script so it takes a second optional eclipse archive location, so you can grab from a local archive for the eclipse app itself, but that is probably the extent of my planned enhancements. That said, I'll probably also push this up to github for those who want to extend it themselves. Thanks, jeremy On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
Will the install result in a workspace set up exactly like Mike's? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AGiq9j_Ak Seriously though, there could be some benefit in that. Tim Worman UCLA GSEIS On Oct 10, 2010, at 9:48 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-10-10, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Ah - cool. There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would consider changing (IMHO). Pros - Always Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than have a script on a server continuously generate packages - Simplicity (big for me) Cons - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and then run, or are not constantly connected) - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a little crazy) - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar Questions - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download? - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download? - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail? - Is there a Cancel button? Yes - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask? In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new feature (Package References) - so the package would download components remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back). I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks hereshould we shelve the turnkey in favor of something like this? Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one (maybe two) which will be the future newbie installerneed to get rid of the confusion there. This is just a simple Cocoa wrapper around Mike's shell script. As such it simply derives the appropriate download path and then calls through to an embedded version of the script with NSTask. It is not designed to be a replacement for anything, and to be completely honest, I have no interest in creating or supporting the next great installer. Mike's script is just really cool, and I wanted to make it easier to use. I have a wickedly fast internet connection right now, so I can have a complete eclipse install up and running in about 3 minutes. Which is awesome BTW. I might consider enhancing Mike's script so it takes a second optional eclipse archive location, so you can grab from a local archive for the eclipse app itself, but that is probably the extent of my planned enhancements. That said, I'll probably also push this up to github for those who want to extend it themselves. Thanks, jeremy On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Golipse.app
Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
Nice... What does it install exactly? The latest eclipse + latest wolips with popular plug-ins? Thanks, Ricardo On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
eclipse 3.6.1 wolips subversive jadclipse maven (m2eclipse) workspace mechanic bunch of workspace mechanic scripts ms On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: Nice... What does it install exactly? The latest eclipse + latest wolips with popular plug-ins? Thanks, Ricardo On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site:http://codeferous.com blog:http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
