Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Le 3 avr. 08 à 15:05, Jean Pierre Malrieu a écrit : Le 3 avr. 08 à 14:57, Ralph Scheuer a écrit : Am 03.04.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Jean Pierre Malrieu: Why are WO sessions always announced later? Because it's so much fun to watch how all the nerds on this list go crazy and start their annual whining . I hate that WO has become a non-whining technology. Or should I say a non-winning technology? JPM PS: See, you 'll never deter the whining people, just make us become more insidious ;-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Q wrote: That should tell you that we're interested in getting developers of every persuasion onto the Mac platform (even RoR developers :-) and that once they get here maybe they'll explore WO and find that they like it! The Cool kids using grown up things instead of their uber fashionable toys, now who's dreaming? :) Wait. I thought that all the Cool Kids used WOLips and WOnder. You don't get more uber fashionable than Click-To-Open. Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) ;-) Oliver P.S.: And what should tell us the session Creating Unified Ruby on Rails Applications in Safari? ;-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
WWDC sessions are out and there are no WO sessions!It is the end! WebObjects is dead! Dead, dead I say! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/ Was I first this year? Was I? Someone was going to start the panic. It was my turn. For anyone new to WO: the WO sessions get announced later. WebObjects is definitely not dead. Be patient. Why are WO sessions always announced later? Apple managed to put a ROR session high in the list, so we all get the feeling that WO is a second class citizen in Apple's strategy. JPM ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Am 03.04.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Jean Pierre Malrieu: Why are WO sessions always announced later? Because it's so much fun to watch how all the nerds on this list go crazy and start their annual whining . Apple managed to put a ROR session high in the list, so we all get the feeling that WO is a second class citizen in Apple's strategy. That's a good start. Someone just had to do it. Ralph ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Whoa! Speak for yourself. On Apr 3, 2008, at 6:00 AM, Jean Pierre Malrieu wrote: we all get the feeling that WO is a second class citizen in Apple's strategy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Oliver Scheel wrote: I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) ;-) Oliver P.S.: And what should tell us the session Creating Unified Ruby on Rails Applications in Safari? ;-) Marketing rules? -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On 3-Apr-08, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Oliver Scheel wrote: I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) ;-) Oliver P.S.: And what should tell us the session Creating Unified Ruby on Rails Applications in Safari? ;-) Marketing rules? Shouldn't that be Marketing RULES!! (with devil horn fists pumped in the air) ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Why are WO sessions always announced later? Because all of the IT/Enterprise sessions are second class citizens, or rather every year the IT marketing types realize Oh Shit! We have a whole track to fill at WWDC! What are we going to do!. Meanwhile, the Cocoa team cuts/pastes the list of new Frameworks and ta-da! The WWDC session list. It has nothing to do with WO per se. I wonder if I could get Apple to pick up the tab for sending me WWDC if I offered to give a talk: Why WebObjects kicks Ruby on Rail's Ass or WO: RoR for grownups Though probably not for: Java Sucks, bring back WO ObjC! Pierce ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
That should tell you that we're interested in getting developers of every persuasion onto the Mac platform (even RoR developers :-) and that once they get here maybe they'll explore WO and find that they like it! Alan On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Oliver Scheel wrote: I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) ;-) Oliver P.S.: And what should tell us the session Creating Unified Ruby on Rails Applications in Safari? ;-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/award% 40apple.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Why are WO sessions always announced later? Because it's so much fun to watch how all the nerds on this list go crazy and start their annual whining . Anybody monitoring the OSX-Java-dev list? *That* makes WO related whining look like a celebration of Apple's undying support... Apple managed to put a ROR session high in the list, so we all get the feeling that WO is a second class citizen in Apple's strategy. Apple's strategy and WO in the same sentence, that itself is a minor miracle :) And, just to be clear, I am not complaining, and I rather happy about WO, Java and Apple lately. Regardless of the iPhone pomp... F ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On 04/04/2008, at 3:32 AM, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote: Why are WO sessions always announced later? Because all of the IT/Enterprise sessions are second class citizens, or rather every year the IT marketing types realize Oh Shit! We have a whole track to fill at WWDC! What are we going to do!. Meanwhile, the Cocoa team cuts/pastes the list of new Frameworks and ta-da! The WWDC session list. It has nothing to do with WO per se. I wonder if I could get Apple to pick up the tab for sending me WWDC if I offered to give a talk: Why WebObjects kicks Ruby on Rail's Ass or WO: RoR for grownups Though probably not for: Java Sucks, bring back WO ObjC! grin/... LOL with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On 04/04/2008, at 2:38 AM, Alan Ward wrote: That should tell you that we're interested in getting developers of every persuasion onto the Mac platform (even RoR developers :-) and that once they get here maybe they'll explore WO and find that they like it! The Cool kids using grown up things instead of their uber fashionable toys, now who's dreaming? :) Alan On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Oliver Scheel wrote: I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) ;-) Oliver P.S.: And what should tell us the session Creating Unified Ruby on Rails Applications in Safari? ;-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/award%40apple.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/qdolan%40gmail.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On 03 Apr 2008, at 13:32, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote: Java Sucks, bring back WO ObjC! +1 Sorry, could not help it :-) = tmk = ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
WWDC sessions are out and there are no WO sessions!It is the end! WebObjects is dead! Dead, dead I say! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/ Was I first this year? Was I? Someone was going to start the panic. It was my turn. For anyone new to WO: the WO sessions get announced later. WebObjects is definitely not dead. Be patient. But if you want even more real cool WO stuff, you want to come to WOWODC: http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc08/ See you there! Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
Darn, you beat me to it! David :-) On 2-Apr-08, at 3:57 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: WWDC sessions are out and there are no WO sessions!It is the end! WebObjects is dead! Dead, dead I say! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/ Was I first this year? Was I? Someone was going to start the panic. It was my turn. For anyone new to WO: the WO sessions get announced later. WebObjects is definitely not dead. Be patient. But if you want even more real cool WO stuff, you want to come to WOWODC: http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc08/ See you there! Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx %40mac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
On 03/04/2008, at 10:03 AM, David Holt wrote: Darn, you beat me to it! David :-) +1 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
I can't wait for the annual noob fest where they all jump in with... I'm not gonna spend my time learning this if Apple is EOL'ing it. I look forward to that *every* year :-) Alan On Apr 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, David Holt wrote: Darn, you beat me to it! David :-) On 2-Apr-08, at 3:57 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: WWDC sessions are out and there are no WO sessions!It is the end! WebObjects is dead! Dead, dead I say! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/ Was I first this year? Was I? Someone was going to start the panic. It was my turn. For anyone new to WO: the WO sessions get announced later. WebObjects is definitely not dead. Be patient. But if you want even more real cool WO stuff, you want to come to WOWODC: http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc08/ See you there! Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ programmingosx%40mac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/award% 40apple.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The sky is falling! The world is ending! WebObjects is Dead!
They can't do WO sessions, almost all the great speakers of the community are speaking at WOWODC :-) WWDC sessions are out and there are no WO sessions!It is the end! WebObjects is dead! Dead, dead I say! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/ Was I first this year? Was I? Someone was going to start the panic. It was my turn. For anyone new to WO: the WO sessions get announced later. WebObjects is definitely not dead. Be patient. But if you want even more real cool WO stuff, you want to come to WOWODC: http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc08/ See you there! Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40os.ca This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
