WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
As this year's WWDC is sold out, and I would like to go to WOWODC, but can not justify the expenses for just two days, I would like to know -Are the plans to do the streaming is still on? -Is the block booking for the hotel also valid only for the weekend? -Anybody interested in swapping houses during the month of june from SF/West Coast to Amsterdam (Netherlands, not Michigan)? Regards, Johan Henselmans http://www.netsense.nl Tel: +31-20-6267538 Fax: +31-20-6279159 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
Le 09-04-30 à 07:01, Johan Henselmans a écrit : As this year's WWDC is sold out, and I would like to go to WOWODC, but can not justify the expenses for just two days, I would like to know -Are the plans to do the streaming is still on? Nope, we will do recordings but no streaming. Streaming can be a nightmare (network issues, people who can't access, etc.) and most people who would listen to it are in Europia or Asia/Australia, they would have to stay up all night to listen to it live. -Is the block booking for the hotel also valid only for the weekend? Good from June 5 to June 12. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
On 30-Apr-09, at 7:32 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 09-04-30 à 07:01, Johan Henselmans a écrit : As this year's WWDC is sold out, and I would like to go to WOWODC, but can not justify the expenses for just two days, I would like to know -Are the plans to do the streaming is still on? Nope, we will do recordings but no streaming. Streaming can be a nightmare (network issues, people who can't access, etc.) and most people who would listen to it are in Europia or Asia/Australia, they would have to stay up all night to listen to it live. Bah, Streaming? Where's the fun in that? What you want is to be there in person so you can drink beer with Chuck, or watch Chuck drink beer. Drinking beer while watching Chuck streaming over the internet would just be sad. ;-) -Is the block booking for the hotel also valid only for the weekend? Good from June 5 to June 12. To clarify, you can book rooms for any number of nights. If you are just staying for the weekend, then just book the number of nights you need. All nights attributed to WOWODC West attendees count against our block number. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
I don't think the nature of WOWODC has been made clear enough. At WWDC, you would maybe get, what, 2 hours at most of WO content, and that's only if Apple decides to throw us a pathetic bone? At this point, we don't even know if there will be ANY WebObjects content at WWDC (I hope so, but there's still nothing on the schedule). So if you were into iPhone stuff, then I agree that not having access to WWDC sort of sucks. On the flip side, WOWODC has something like 17 hours of content. If you're looking for WO content, though, I can say that there is literally no better place in the world to get it than these two days. This is the best group of WO people I have seen in a single place, ever (maybe years-ago-WWDC's are the only thing comparable). We've got almost every notable community member speaking and we've got two confirmed senior level Apple employees, one from MobileMe and one from Apple Online Store, presenting. As if this wasn't enough (which it is), we have at least three more really cool I-can-only-make- insinuations-but-you-can't-depend-on-this-because-it's-not-officially- approved-so-it-can't-be-announced-for-real-so-this-statement-is-not- contractually-binding-and-i'm-indemnified-against-claims-for- suggesting-this-and-this-sentence-never-existed-but-if-things-come- through-it-will-be-very-cool announcements* for WOWODC, and it all adds up to You want to be at WOWODC if you use WebObjects. I'm also not _100%_ certain at this point that the full set of sessions (see previous sentence) will be allowed to be recorded this year, so while recordings will likely have 95% of the content and still be great, there's a chance you're going to miss some cool stuff if you're not actually there. ms * For the record, Pascal doesn't want to pre-announce things in case final approval doesn't come through -- he doesn't want people to feel cheated (since he has some amount of legal obligation as the organizer). I, on the other hand, have no such legal obligation don't care about your little feelings :), and want people to know that there's a CHHAANNNCEE of some really cool stuff, so make your plans accordingly, with the possibility that history will record that, in this particular case, my pants are on fire. Besides, unconfirmed things aside, if you use WO, you're going to drink from the wo- firehose here and learn some great stuff. On Apr 30, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote: As this year's WWDC is sold out, and I would like to go to WOWODC, but can not justify the expenses for just two days, I would like to know -Are the plans to do the streaming is still on? -Is the block booking for the hotel also valid only for the weekend? -Anybody interested in swapping houses during the month of june from SF/West Coast to Amsterdam (Netherlands, not Michigan)? Regards, Johan Henselmans http://www.netsense.nl Tel: +31-20-6267538 Fax: +31-20-6279159 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: * For the record, Pascal doesn't want to pre-announce things in case final approval doesn't come through -- he doesn't want people to feel cheated (since he has some amount of legal obligation as the organizer). I, on the other hand, have no such legal obligation don't care about your little feelings :), and want people to know that there's a CHHAANNNCEE of some really cool stuff, so make your plans accordingly, with the possibility that history will record that, in this particular case, my pants are on fire. Besides, unconfirmed things aside, if you use WO, you're going to drink from the wo-firehose here and learn some great stuff. The pants thing ... we can definitely organize that one ... ;-) cug ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
On 30-Apr-09, at 5:48 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: we have at least three more really cool I-can-only-make- insinuations-but-you-can't-depend-on-this-because-it's-not- officially-approved-so-it-can't-be-announced-for-real-so-this- statement-is-not-contractually-binding-and-i'm-indemnified-against- claims-for-suggesting-this-and-this-sentence-never-existed-but-if- things-come-through-it-will-be-very-cool announcements* for WOWODC, and it all adds up to You want to be at WOWODC if you use WebObjects. Can you please stop making my palms sweat? Thanks very much ;-) David ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC sold out, WOWODC hotel booking for weekend or streaming?
On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:06 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 30-Apr-09, at 7:32 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 09-04-30 à 07:01, Johan Henselmans a écrit : As this year's WWDC is sold out, and I would like to go to WOWODC, but can not justify the expenses for just two days, I would like to know -Are the plans to do the streaming is still on? Nope, we will do recordings but no streaming. Streaming can be a nightmare (network issues, people who can't access, etc.) and most people who would listen to it are in Europia or Asia/Australia, they would have to stay up all night to listen to it live. Bah, Streaming? Where's the fun in that? What you want is to be there in person so you can drink beer with Chuck, or watch Chuck drink beer. Drinking beer while watching Chuck streaming over the internet would just be sad. ;-) But not nearly as sad as watching Chuck watching beer streaming over the Internet. -Is the block booking for the hotel also valid only for the weekend? Good from June 5 to June 12. To clarify, you can book rooms for any number of nights. If you are just staying for the weekend, then just book the number of nights you need. All nights attributed to WOWODC West attendees count against our block number. To clarify: counting against our block number is _good_. Chuck -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Come to WOWODC'09 in San Fran this June! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc09/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
