Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?

2011-11-20 Thread Michael Bauer
Yes I do. I've already emailed Andreas Mantke about this but I'll gladly 
sum up my main points again. Please take this as constructive criticism, 
I certainly want this project to succeed :)


The process is fiendishly complicated and rather cryptic. Now, I 
apologise for being slightly vague, having only one extension I did not 
go through the process more than once and I wasn't making notes, so this 
is from memory.


1) The window where one uploads the extensions is crackers. Mine is a 
spellchecker, something.oxt. I selected the file and moved one. But in 
the process of uploading, the .oxt was stripped and in some *other* 
window where I was asked for a name (I think) it neither stated (nor did 
it occur to me) that I have to add the .oxt onto the filename again. 
Why? If I'm uploading .oxt, then the system should recognise this. 
Also, I suspect that most people already have given their desired name 
to their extensions, so the option of renaming seems rather superfluous.


At no point was there a warning either that my extension was unworkable 
due to a lack of .oxt. Fortunately someone spotted this when testing and 
we fixed it... but that's slightly mad.


2) Too many obscure windows. In the process, I'm asked to name and 
version my extension several times but on neither occassion was it 
obvious to me what actually went where in the end. For some reasons - 
and I don't seem to be able to change that though I'Ve certainly tried - 
mine is now called

Current Release
An Dearbhair Beag - Scottish Gaelic Spellchecker an-dearbhair

and the Version is
an-dearbhair

I certainly didn't want the current release to be that long or the 
version to be text... but I still can't figure how to amend those bits. 
Maybe I'm just more used to it but the OO extension site was a lot 
easier to handle.


If you want to check out the mess I managed to create, see 
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/an-dearbhair-beag-scottish-gaelic-spellchecker


Salude e trigu,

Michael


20/11/2011 16:03, sgrìobh webmaster for Kracked Press Productions:

Any ideas about what is going on?
Any ideas on how a user can get the listed software?
Should we allow an extension/template be listed if there is no file to 
test out? 



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?

2011-11-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


For my dictionary extensions, I used the "externally hosted" option.  
Since I can have my offerings placed onto one of my domains, I can use 
that option.


So it links to the externally hosted file, instead of the hosting on the 
LO server system.


I wonder when this file extension stripping will get fixed.  When I 
tried to deal with the CMS editing for some of the pages for a project, 
I uploaded some files and the filenames were modified.  It replaced or 
removed the underline "_" character in the file names.  I did not like 
that.  But this stripping of the file extension type is a worse action 
to my feeling.


Hopefully it will be fixed soon.  Otherwise, some people might need some 
other way to do it.  For me, I would offer anyone who wants to have a 
place to host their .oxt files till the system works.  I could create an 
FTP account for them to upload their files to - limited folder size though.


If you want to have me place you files on one of my domains, I would.  
You can contact me off this list about options you could use, including 
an FTP accessible folder off one of my domains.




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On 11/20/2011 11:19 AM, Michael Bauer wrote:
Yes I do. I've already emailed Andreas Mantke about this but I'll 
gladly sum up my main points again. Please take this as constructive 
criticism, I certainly want this project to succeed :)


The process is fiendishly complicated and rather cryptic. Now, I 
apologise for being slightly vague, having only one extension I did 
not go through the process more than once and I wasn't making notes, 
so this is from memory.


1) The window where one uploads the extensions is crackers. Mine is a 
spellchecker, something.oxt. I selected the file and moved one. But in 
the process of uploading, the .oxt was stripped and in some *other* 
window where I was asked for a name (I think) it neither stated (nor 
did it occur to me) that I have to add the .oxt onto the filename 
again. Why? If I'm uploading .oxt, then the system should 
recognise this. Also, I suspect that most people already have given 
their desired name to their extensions, so the option of renaming 
seems rather superfluous.


At no point was there a warning either that my extension was 
unworkable due to a lack of .oxt. Fortunately someone spotted this 
when testing and we fixed it... but that's slightly mad.


2) Too many obscure windows. In the process, I'm asked to name and 
version my extension several times but on neither occassion was it 
obvious to me what actually went where in the end. For some reasons - 
and I don't seem to be able to change that though I'Ve certainly tried 
- mine is now called

Current Release
An Dearbhair Beag - Scottish Gaelic Spellchecker an-dearbhair

and the Version is
an-dearbhair

I certainly didn't want the current release to be that long or the 
version to be text... but I still can't figure how to amend those 
bits. Maybe I'm just more used to it but the OO extension site was a 
lot easier to handle.


If you want to check out the mess I managed to create, see 
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/an-dearbhair-beag-scottish-gaelic-spellchecker


Salude e trigu,

Michael


20/11/2011 16:03, sgrìobh webmaster for Kracked Press Productions:

Any ideas about what is going on?
Any ideas on how a user can get the listed software?
Should we allow an extension/template be listed if there is no file 
to test out? 






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Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?

2011-11-20 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi,

Am Sonntag, 20. November 2011, 20:20:56 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productions:
> For my dictionary extensions, I used the "externally hosted" option.
> Since I can have my offerings placed onto one of my domains, I can use
> that option.
> 
> So it links to the externally hosted file, instead of the hosting on the
> LO server system.
> 

you could do that, but I think it is not necessary any more. I examined the 
situation 
and looked into the code and I think I found the issue.

The naming of the file needs the complete file name (including file extension), 
that 
you'll upload. I added an explanation about this.

I know that this is not a very user friendly behavior, but I think it is a 
solution 
for short. I hope I get enough free spare time to find a better solution. I'm 
open 
for proposals (the code is online available in my gitrepo on github.com).

Regards,
Andreas
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?

2011-11-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 11/20/2011 05:07 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:

Hi,

Am Sonntag, 20. November 2011, 20:20:56 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions:

For my dictionary extensions, I used the "externally hosted" option.
Since I can have my offerings placed onto one of my domains, I can use
that option.

So it links to the externally hosted file, instead of the hosting on the
LO server system.


you could do that, but I think it is not necessary any more. I examined the 
situation
and looked into the code and I think I found the issue.

The naming of the file needs the complete file name (including file extension), 
that
you'll upload. I added an explanation about this.


What do you mean by this?
When you click on the file for upload, it gets the complete file name, 
does it not?

Of are you saying the file should be like this:
"dictionary.oxt" will need to be renamed "dictionary.oxt.oxt"?

I am for anything that would fix this issue, as long as when it is 
downloaded, the user will not have to add their own extension name to 
the file.



I know that this is not a very user friendly behavior, but I think it is a 
solution
for short. I hope I get enough free spare time to find a better solution. I'm 
open
for proposals (the code is online available in my gitrepo on github.com).

Regards,
Andreas



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?

2011-11-21 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi,

Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 00:15:51 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productions:
> On 11/20/2011 05:07 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:
(...)
> > The naming of the file needs the complete file name (including file
> > extension), that you'll upload. I added an explanation about this.
> 
> What do you mean by this?
> When you click on the file for upload, it gets the complete file name,
> does it not?
> Of are you saying the file should be like this:
> "dictionary.oxt" will need to be renamed "dictionary.oxt.oxt"?
> 

no, you should fill into the title field the full name of the file:

e.g. if the name is "english_dictionary.oxt"
you had to fill in this name including the file extension. That's all.

> I am for anything that would fix this issue, as long as when it is
> downloaded, the user will not have to add their own extension name to
> the file.

I tested my above explanation with the file name including the file extension 
and it 
works for me in three different browsers. It works also with the new projects 
from 
Leif on the extensions site. Many thanks to him for trying this out.

Regards,
Andreas

P.S.: If someone offers me more spare time and a helping developer, there will 
be 
some improvements asap. But I think the first is not realistic ;-)

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