Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
Frank Barknecht wrote: I already feared it is an old and controversial issue again... ;-) If you google for the keywords I mentioned you can read about the issue in all its glory. Of course, the Thunderbird bug discussion also went off-topic to fight that old fight. ;) You seem to be right. Just found the following example ... http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2005_11_19.shtml#e138 As a Thunderbird user I find the current configuration more useful. -- Christoph --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
Hallo, Christoph Zwerschke hat gesagt: // Christoph Zwerschke wrote: > Frank Barknecht schrieb: > > You can normally disable this behaviour (getting list mails twice) > > How? I only know "norcv" and "hide" which will do something different. > And even if I could disable it for me, I cannot be sure others have > disabled it. Ah, sorry, Sourceforge doesn't have this feature. Maybe they run an older version of Mailman. With other lists I'm on, this option is called "Avoid duplicate copies of messages?" and the explanation text is: "When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to receive copies. If the list has member personalized messages enabled, and you elect to receive copies, every copy will have a X-Mailman-Copy: yes header added to it." > > so at least for me it is usual to press "L" in Mutt, > > Is this realized by evaluating the "List-Post" header? Unfortunately, > Mozilla/Thunderbird does not have such a feature (or does it?). No, Thunderbird doesn't have it, AFAIK. But there are many bugreports or featue requests open, like: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45715 I'm not sure, if current versions of Mutt evaluate the headers, normally you add lists, you are subscribed to, into the config file. However at least the Webmailer "Horde" seems to evaluate the List-header automatically. Horde has a button called "Reply to list" which automatically does The Right Thing. Anyway many mailer like of course Outlook miss features for proper list handling. That's why some lists do in fact mess with the Reply-To. However most list for "technically inclined people" in my experience tend to prefer to let the reply-to stay as it is, that is, not change it to a Reply-To-List. That's also, why Sourceforge lists default to the setting we had so far, I guess. > > Ah, well, the old "Reply-To munging harmful or not" discussion ... > > I already feared it is an old and controversial issue again... ;-) If you google for the keywords I mentioned you can read about the issue in all its glory. Of course, the Thunderbird bug discussion also went off-topic to fight that old fight. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
Frank Barknecht schrieb: > You can normally disable this behaviour (getting list mails twice) How? I only know "norcv" and "hide" which will do something different. And even if I could disable it for me, I cannot be sure others have disabled it. > so at least for me it is usual to press "L" in Mutt, Is this realized by evaluating the "List-Post" header? Unfortunately, Mozilla/Thunderbird does not have such a feature (or does it?). > Ah, well, the old "Reply-To munging harmful or not" discussion ... I already feared it is an old and controversial issue again... ;-) -- Christoph --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
Hallo, Christoph Zwerschke hat gesagt: // Christoph Zwerschke wrote: > Seth Remington wrote: > >"Reply to All" is a quick userland fix. > > Yes, but I always forget it because in other lists this is not needed. > Also, this results in sending the message to the list plus to the author > who will receive it two times. You can normally disable this behaviour (getting list mails twice) in your account's subscription's settings through the mailman web interface. All Sourceforge lists default to not mess with the Reply-To, so at least for me it is usual to press "L" in Mutt, which does a proper List-Reply. Automatically redirecting replies to the list carries the risk, that mails which were intended to stay private will go to the public list instead, if I just press "Reply-To" as I'm used to with all my other mails. Ah, well, the old "Reply-To munging harmful or not" discussion ... Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
On 11/20/05, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seth Remington wrote: > > "Reply to All" is a quick userland fix. > > Yes, but I always forget it because in other lists this is not needed. > Also, this results in sending the message to the list plus to the author > who will receive it two times. I have been annoyed by this as well. I just updated the list options so in the future, replies will go to the list by default. -Chuck --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
Seth Remington wrote: "Reply to All" is a quick userland fix. Yes, but I always forget it because in other lists this is not needed. Also, this results in sending the message to the list plus to the author who will receive it two times. -- Chris --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
Re: [Webware-devel] Mailing list reply-to
"Reply to All" is a quick userland fix. -Seth On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:37 +, Christoph Zwerschke wrote: > BTW, is it by intend that the Webware mailing lists do not have a > reply-to header? I always forget to fix the recepient, since a reply to > a posting in the list goes to the author by default, not to the list. > Can this be changed? > > -- Christoph --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click ___ Webware-devel mailing list Webware-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
