[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Andrew Milner]

The power of many eyes - that was it  It now works as expected.  Many 
thanks to everyone - especially Michi.  I never saw it either because I 
never really thought about the default values as they are not used.  Many 
many thanks - I can sleep peacefully again now!!
All working at 
http://andrewmilner.online/Bootstrap/history.html

Many many thanks


On Monday, 9 December 2019 21:55:38 UTC+2, Michi Kaa wrote:
>
> Haha! There it is. And now I know why I didn't find it: I have the same 
> error in my config but the line was commented out, because I use different 
> colours (sic!). But doing a DIFF on my config and yours didn't highlight 
> it, because the lines where the same except for the "#". I don't know where 
> I got this commented out line from, I guess from an older release?
>
> I hope the issue is solved by now and there is no other error...
>
> Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 19:34:45 UTC+1 schrieb J D:
>>
>> Here is the line for easy find
>>
>>  colours =   "#0029E5", "#0186E7", "#02E3EA", "#04EC97", *"#05EF3D2,* 
>> "#2BF207", 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: graph of yearly rain total for past 10+ years

[p q]

Nice. I guess when I get 10 years worth of data I'll want to do the same.
(3+ years so far...)

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:29 PM vince  wrote:

> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 5:58:52 AM UTC-8, p q wrote:
>>
>> This isn't something that's going to change very much very fast. Wouldn't
>> doing it once (or once a year)  in something like Excel be a better use of
>> time than automating it?
>>
>>
>>
> I dunno, it'll graph whatever is in the database.
>
> Here are some 10-year plots from my system -
> https://www.skahan.net/weewx/10year.html
>
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Re: [weewx-user] Re: graph of yearly rain total for past 10+ years

[vince]

On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 5:58:52 AM UTC-8, p q wrote:
>
> This isn't something that's going to change very much very fast. Wouldn't 
> doing it once (or once a year)  in something like Excel be a better use of 
> time than automating it?
>
>
>
I dunno, it'll graph whatever is in the database.

Here are some 10-year plots from my system - 
https://www.skahan.net/weewx/10year.html
 

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[gjr80]

>From what you describe there is clearly a unit conversion issue in the 
driver/rtl_433, no amount of changing unit groups will fix such an issue, 
it may 'paper over the cracks' in one place but will leaving gaping holes 
somewhere else.

Gary

On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 07:44:47 UTC+10, S1m0n3 wrote:
>
> hmm.. maybe my fault is thought that it was enough to change group_rain  
> and group_rainrate to mm in cm and not also  target_unit to METRICWX...
>
> Simone
>
>
> Il giorno lunedì 9 dicembre 2019 22:20:07 UTC+1, S1m0n3 ha scritto:
>>
>> Yes, correct the usUnit in loop is 16 Metric (cm) and not 17 (mm) so this 
>> clarify the rain_total * 10. But how I can change it? 🤔 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[gjr80]

As Matthew intimated it is likely the sdr driver needs some changes. I 
suggest you proceed as per Matthew's last post:

1. update to both the latest rtl_433 and sdr driver (you have not indicated 
if you have done this or not)

2. run some tests as outlined by Matthew, this may be best achieved by 
manually pouring water into your rain gauge whilst recording the results.

3. post the results (in the case above the file 
/var/tmp/rain-test-packets.log)

4. post a copy of the [StdConvert] stanza from your weewx.conf, this way we 
know what unit system your archive is using)

Once we have that info it should be clear where the cause lies and if 
necessary Matthew can fix the sdr driver.

Descriptive/piecemeal info can be helpful but in this case we need to see 
complete records/file extracts.

Gary

On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 07:20:07 UTC+10, S1m0n3 wrote:
>
> Yes, correct the usUnit in loop is 16 Metric (cm) and not 17 (mm) so this 
> clarify the rain_total * 10. But how I can change it? 🤔 
>
> Thanks! 

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[S1m0n3]

hmm.. maybe my fault is thought that it was enough to change group_rain  
and group_rainrate to mm in cm and not also  target_unit to METRICWX...

Simone


Il giorno lunedì 9 dicembre 2019 22:20:07 UTC+1, S1m0n3 ha scritto:
>
> Yes, correct the usUnit in loop is 16 Metric (cm) and not 17 (mm) so this 
> clarify the rain_total * 10. But how I can change it? 🤔 
>
> Thanks! 

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[S1m0n3]

Yes, correct the usUnit in loop is 16 Metric (cm) and not 17 (mm) so this 
clarify the rain_total * 10. But how I can change it? 🤔

Thanks! 

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[gjr80]

I suspect you have found a symptom of the problem not the cause - your 
archive rain data is 10 times what it should be - and the issue/cause will 
lie in rtl_433 and the sdr driver. WeeWX will take the data presented by 
the driver (in your case sdr) and convert it to the the units used by the 
unit system used by your database. That conversion process is mature and 
well tested so almost certainly not at fault. However, if the driver 
presents incorrect data then the the result in the archive will be 
incorrect. You say the 'loop and rec' has the right value - but are you 
sure? There are two key pieces of information in a loop packet or archive 
record that precisely define an observation; the value of the field, eg for 
field rain it might be 10, 5.4 or 3.2 and the unit system used by the 
packet/record, that is the field usUnits. The usUnits field determines how 
individual field values are interpreted, for rain it will be one of inches, 
mm or cm. Valid usUnits values are 1 (US customary units - inches for 
rain), 16 (Metric units - cm for rain) or 17 (MetricWX - mm for rain). So 
it is quite possible you are seeing the correct 'numbers' in your loop 
packets and archive records but the unit system may be wrong. The only way 
to tell is to post copies of the entire 'loop and rec' output along with 
details of the corresponding data that was stored in the archive. 

Gary

On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:55:33 UTC+10, S1m0n3 wrote:
>
> Il giorno sabato 7 dicembre 2019 13:42:52 UTC+1, mwall ha scritto: 
> > On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:57:00 AM UTC-5, S1m0n3 wrote: 
> > After an year I've tried again to work with Weewx but I've same problem 
> with rain 😢 can I do some things?! Thanks!!! 
> > 
> > 
> > sorry this is taking so long to resolve. 
> > 
> > 
> > as gary pointed out, it looks like a units conversion issue. 
> > 
> > 
> > fwiw, rtl_433 has at least three different decoding implementations for 
> the fine offset x080 stations, and there have been variations in the units 
> in those over the years.  that is why weewx-sdr works fine for one person 
> but not for another - they are using different versions of rtl_433, and 
> different fine offset packet decodings. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > so what can you do? 
> > 
> > first of all, before you try to make any sense of the rain rate, first 
> be sure that the rain count is working properly.  rain rate is a derived 
> quantity, so if your rain count is incorrect, the rain rate will never be 
> correct. 
> > 
> > 
> > secondly, update to the latest rtl_433 and the latest weewx-sdr.  there 
> are just too many variations of rtl_433 out there for me to make weewx-sdr 
> work with every one. 
> > 
> > 
> > then do some tests.  run weewx directly so that you can see each loop 
> and archive packet as it happens.  capture them to file.  pour water into 
> the rain bucket and see what happens. 
> > 
> > 
> > sudo weewxd weewx.conf | tee /var/tmp/rain-test-packets.log 
> > 
> > 
> > at that point it should be obvious where the problem is. 
> > 
> > 
> > m 
>
> Found the problem, loop and rec has right value but when achieved it's 
> multiplicate for 10 so in one hour i have 1,2mm of rain from 2,7 total rain 
> to 3,9 and in archive I've 12mm 😳

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Michi Kaa]

Haha! There it is. And now I know why I didn't find it: I have the same 
error in my config but the line was commented out, because I use different 
colours (sic!). But doing a DIFF on my config and yours didn't highlight 
it, because the lines where the same except for the "#". I don't know where 
I got this commented out line from, I guess from an older release?

I hope the issue is solved by now and there is no other error...

Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 19:34:45 UTC+1 schrieb J D:
>
> Here is the line for easy find
>
>  colours =   "#0029E5", "#0186E7", "#02E3EA", "#04EC97", *"#05EF3D2,* 
> "#2BF207", 
>
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[J D]

Here is the line for easy find

 colours =   "#0029E5", "#0186E7", "#02E3EA", "#04EC97", *"#05EF3D2,* 
"#2BF207", 


On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:09:10 AM UTC-7, Robin wrote:
>
> I really like the bootstrap history page as seen at
>
> http://www.dajda.net/history.html
>
> I am pretty happy with my current skin, and was wondering if it is 
> possible to add a page like this without a full install of the bootstrap 
> skin? I would not be using the gauges and can edit the templates.
>
> Any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Robin
>

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Jozef Smolders]

Missing double quotes in default temp colours


Op maandag 9 december 2019 18:41:56 UTC+1 schreef Andrew Milner:
>
> here is my bootstrap skin which generates temperature and rain tables 
> correctly but fails to create the NOAA button select table and instead 
> gives a spurious error saying min values, max values and colours must have 
> same number of elements. Whilst this is correct for normal history tables 
> it does not apply to the NOAA table.  I assume that the NOAA section is not 
> being identified as a NOAA table - why not??
>
>
>
> On Monday, 9 December 2019 18:08:46 UTC+2, Michi Kaa wrote:
>>
>> I think I was the one who gave the answer on github. Did you post how you 
>> solved it?
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2019 08:59:18 UTC+1 schrieb Mikael Fredriksson:
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> Finally got it to work
>>> !
>>> Got an answer on my comment on github, and followed the proceduer. 
>>> I must have made some misstake before because it looks like this was 
>>> what you told me to do.
>>> My NOAA works also but I haven't made any changes on that.
>>>
>>> Hope you get some answer to your issue with this now!
>>>
>>> And thanks for your answers on this!
>>>
>>> /Mikael
>>>
>>> Den söndag 8 december 2019 kl. 00:49:39 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:

 does the log offer any clues??  worked for me just changing history 
 generator.py and the skin.conf.  I suspect noaa does not work for me 
 because i have changed my noaa files to html instead of txt and also 
 altered the header lines so suspect i have upset something!!  I've also 
 emailed him and also not heard anything back (yet).

 On Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:26:31 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I've tried to copy these files and even changed them line by line in 
> place, but the summary columns just won't apear. 
> Don't know what to try more, I left a comment on his github. Hope to 
> get some answer to this.
>
> /Micael
>
>
>
>
> Den måndag 2 december 2019 kl. 04:17:46 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:
>>
>> i only copied the files a week or so ago.  The only problem I am 
>> having is with the noaa table which is giving me an error - i have got 
>> the 
>> summary columns for the min, max, rain tables working as expected.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:43:50 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, thanks Andrew!
>>>
>>> I did also try to update and use the new files but nothing changed 
>>> so I guess this has been removed in the latest update.
>>>
>>> Mikael
>>>
>>>

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Andrew Milner]

here is my bootstrap skin which generates temperature and rain tables 
correctly but fails to create the NOAA button select table and instead 
gives a spurious error saying min values, max values and colours must have 
same number of elements. Whilst this is correct for normal history tables 
it does not apply to the NOAA table.  I assume that the NOAA section is not 
being identified as a NOAA table - why not??



On Monday, 9 December 2019 18:08:46 UTC+2, Michi Kaa wrote:
>
> I think I was the one who gave the answer on github. Did you post how you 
> solved it?
>
> Am Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2019 08:59:18 UTC+1 schrieb Mikael Fredriksson:
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Finally got it to work
>> !
>> Got an answer on my comment on github, and followed the proceduer. 
>> I must have made some misstake before because it looks like this was what 
>> you told me to do.
>> My NOAA works also but I haven't made any changes on that.
>>
>> Hope you get some answer to your issue with this now!
>>
>> And thanks for your answers on this!
>>
>> /Mikael
>>
>> Den söndag 8 december 2019 kl. 00:49:39 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:
>>>
>>> does the log offer any clues??  worked for me just changing history 
>>> generator.py and the skin.conf.  I suspect noaa does not work for me 
>>> because i have changed my noaa files to html instead of txt and also 
>>> altered the header lines so suspect i have upset something!!  I've also 
>>> emailed him and also not heard anything back (yet).
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:26:31 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:

 Andrew,

 I've tried to copy these files and even changed them line by line in 
 place, but the summary columns just won't apear. 
 Don't know what to try more, I left a comment on his github. Hope to 
 get some answer to this.

 /Micael




 Den måndag 2 december 2019 kl. 04:17:46 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:
>
> i only copied the files a week or so ago.  The only problem I am 
> having is with the noaa table which is giving me an error - i have got 
> the 
> summary columns for the min, max, rain tables working as expected.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:43:50 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:
>>
>> Ok, thanks Andrew!
>>
>> I did also try to update and use the new files but nothing changed so 
>> I guess this has been removed in the latest update.
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>>

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#   
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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Michi Kaa]

I think I was the one who gave the answer on github. Did you post how you 
solved it?

Am Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2019 08:59:18 UTC+1 schrieb Mikael Fredriksson:
>
> Andrew,
>
> Finally got it to work
> !
> Got an answer on my comment on github, and followed the proceduer. 
> I must have made some misstake before because it looks like this was what 
> you told me to do.
> My NOAA works also but I haven't made any changes on that.
>
> Hope you get some answer to your issue with this now!
>
> And thanks for your answers on this!
>
> /Mikael
>
> Den söndag 8 december 2019 kl. 00:49:39 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:
>>
>> does the log offer any clues??  worked for me just changing history 
>> generator.py and the skin.conf.  I suspect noaa does not work for me 
>> because i have changed my noaa files to html instead of txt and also 
>> altered the header lines so suspect i have upset something!!  I've also 
>> emailed him and also not heard anything back (yet).
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:26:31 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> I've tried to copy these files and even changed them line by line in 
>>> place, but the summary columns just won't apear. 
>>> Don't know what to try more, I left a comment on his github. Hope to get 
>>> some answer to this.
>>>
>>> /Micael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Den måndag 2 december 2019 kl. 04:17:46 UTC+1 skrev Andrew Milner:

 i only copied the files a week or so ago.  The only problem I am having 
 is with the noaa table which is giving me an error - i have got the 
 summary 
 columns for the min, max, rain tables working as expected.



 On Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:43:50 UTC+2, Mikael Fredriksson wrote:
>
> Ok, thanks Andrew!
>
> I did also try to update and use the new files but nothing changed so 
> I guess this has been removed in the latest update.
>
> Mikael
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Michi Kaa]

@Andrew Milner Can you post your noaa section?

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Rain rate too high with SDR driver?

[S1m0n3]

Il giorno sabato 7 dicembre 2019 13:42:52 UTC+1, mwall ha scritto:
> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:57:00 AM UTC-5, S1m0n3 wrote:
> After an year I've tried again to work with Weewx but I've same problem with 
> rain 😢 can I do some things?! Thanks!!!
> 
> 
> sorry this is taking so long to resolve.
> 
> 
> as gary pointed out, it looks like a units conversion issue.
> 
> 
> fwiw, rtl_433 has at least three different decoding implementations for the 
> fine offset x080 stations, and there have been variations in the units in 
> those over the years.  that is why weewx-sdr works fine for one person but 
> not for another - they are using different versions of rtl_433, and different 
> fine offset packet decodings.
> 
> 
> 
> so what can you do?
> 
> first of all, before you try to make any sense of the rain rate, first be 
> sure that the rain count is working properly.  rain rate is a derived 
> quantity, so if your rain count is incorrect, the rain rate will never be 
> correct.
> 
> 
> secondly, update to the latest rtl_433 and the latest weewx-sdr.  there are 
> just too many variations of rtl_433 out there for me to make weewx-sdr work 
> with every one.
> 
> 
> then do some tests.  run weewx directly so that you can see each loop and 
> archive packet as it happens.  capture them to file.  pour water into the 
> rain bucket and see what happens.
> 
> 
> sudo weewxd weewx.conf | tee /var/tmp/rain-test-packets.log
> 
> 
> at that point it should be obvious where the problem is.
> 
> 
> m

Found the problem, loop and rec has right value but when achieved it's 
multiplicate for 10 so in one hour i have 1,2mm of rain from 2,7 total rain to 
3,9 and in archive I've 12mm 😳

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: graph of yearly rain total for past 10+ years

[p q]

This isn't something that's going to change very much very fast. Wouldn't
doing it once (or once a year)  in something like Excel be a better use of
time than automating it?

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Re: [weewx-user] weather34 do not display pessure

[steeple ian]

Thanks it’s looking good

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 10:46, Remy Lebreton  wrote:

> yes i have
>
> https://davis.inod.fr/weewx/weather34/
>
> thk
> Remy
>
>
> Le lundi 9 décembre 2019 08:20:31 UTC+1, steeple ian a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Remy,
>> Thanks for letting me know. I am glad it’s now working ok.
>> Do you have a public website?
>> Regards,
>> Ian
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 07:12, Remy Lebreton  wrote:
>>
> Hi Ian
>>>
>>> i have install again from scratch the last version , and it work now :)
>>> Thank for your very good job
>>> Remy
>>>
>>>
>>> Le dimanche 8 décembre 2019 21:56:19 UTC+1, Remy Lebreton a écrit :

 Hi  Lan
 My version is
 (WX-UB40-IHVN-04)  WeeWX-(3.9.2) my driver is vantage
 i have tested with the version  IHVN-08 it is the same think
 i used  w34realtime.txt see attached file
 regards
 thk


 Le dimanche 8 décembre 2019 19:48:40 UTC+1, steeple ian a écrit :
>
> Hi Remy,
>
> Which version are you using ? The current version is IHVN-08.
> Which driver are you using for your weather station?
>
> From the screen shot you are showing, it appears that the module is
> online but getting a null reading from your realtime data file. If you can
> send me a copy of this file (depending on your version it will either be
> called realtime.txt or w34realtime.txt).
>
> Merci,
> Ian
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:33 PM Remy Lebreton 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> i use weather34 skin , but unfortunately we can't see the pressure .
>> see screenshot
>> Regards
>>
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Re: [weewx-user] weather34 do not display pessure

[Remy Lebreton]

yes i have

https://davis.inod.fr/weewx/weather34/

thk
Remy


Le lundi 9 décembre 2019 08:20:31 UTC+1, steeple ian a écrit :
>
> Hi Remy,
> Thanks for letting me know. I am glad it’s now working ok.
> Do you have a public website?
> Regards,
> Ian
>
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 07:12, Remy Lebreton  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Ian
>>
>> i have install again from scratch the last version , and it work now :)
>> Thank for your very good job
>> Remy 
>>
>>
>> Le dimanche 8 décembre 2019 21:56:19 UTC+1, Remy Lebreton a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi  Lan
>>> My version is 
>>> (WX-UB40-IHVN-04)  WeeWX-(3.9.2) my driver is vantage 
>>> i have tested with the version  IHVN-08 it is the same think
>>> i used  w34realtime.txt see attached file
>>> regards
>>> thk
>>>
>>>
>>> Le dimanche 8 décembre 2019 19:48:40 UTC+1, steeple ian a écrit :

 Hi Remy,

 Which version are you using ? The current version is IHVN-08.
 Which driver are you using for your weather station?

 From the screen shot you are showing, it appears that the module is 
 online but getting a null reading from your realtime data file. If you can 
 send me a copy of this file (depending on your version it will either be 
 called realtime.txt or w34realtime.txt).

 Merci,
 Ian


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> Hello
> i use weather34 skin , but unfortunately we can't see the pressure .
> see screenshot
> Regards
>
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[weewx-user] Re: graph of yearly rain total for past 10+ years

[Michael Hornsby]

Thank you - you’ve confirmed what I thought.

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[weewx-user] Re: bootstrap history page

[Andrew Milner]

that is, I think, what I am using.  The history tables are generated 
correctly for max, min, average, rain, raindays - but the noaa table does 
not generate for some raeson - historygenerator seems to think it is a 
normal table rather than the noaa table of buttons and i cannot find what 
is wrong.




On Monday, 9 December 2019 06:52:21 UTC+2, Michi Kaa wrote:
>
> For the Bootstrap skin to run correctly, you have to install the latest 
> commit of 
> https://github.com/brewster76/fuzzy-archer/blob/master/bin/user/historygenerator.py
>   
> , which is *NOT* included in the latest release!
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[weewx-user] Re: graph of yearly rain total for past 10+ years

[gjr80]

Highcharts is certainly very flexible and provided you can feed it appropriate 
data it will plot just about anything you want. The OP asked if the Standard 
skin could do this and unfortunately it cannot.

Gary

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