[weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[gjr80]

Oh, and I forgot to mention. Your missing six messages found their way into 
the spam folder, Groups seems to have a habit of randomly doing this 
sometimes. I don't know why, especially when your seventh attempt worked! 
In any case I deleted them, could not see the point of letting them through 
now.

Gary


On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 14:36:18 UTC+10 gjr80 wrote:

> So the question started as why you weren't seeing your data on an Aeris 
> app and the answer was that only those stations that provide sky coverage 
> were showing their data on the Aeris app. Subsequently, your question to us 
> was how to I submit sky coverage data to PWS Weather. Fair question given 
> the AerisWeather response, but as explained earlier this is not possible. 
> The issue of a missing link raised by subsequent posts I suspect is largely 
> irrelevant, the context of that para from AerisWeather Support was that as 
> a PWS contributor you have free access to your data via the AerisWeather 
> API. Somehow I don't think that was intended as a solution to getting your 
> data to appear on the Aeris app but rather giving you a means to access 
> your data (just like the WeatherUnderground API gives you access to your 
> data) once you register on AerisWeather and link to your PWS account.
>
> In terms of sky coverage I did a bit of browsing on the PWS Weather 
> station map last night and found that when looking at the METAR station at 
> our international airport there was indeed a sky coverage plot. When I 
> looked at PWS stations nearby the airport they too had a sky coverage plot 
> and it was identical in every respect to the METAR sky coverage plot. 
> However, once I was too far away from the METAR station (some 15-20km as 
> the crow flies) the PWS stations all had no sky coverage plot. I think this 
> tends to indicate that PWS stations on the station map are in fact 
> obtaining sky coverage by virtue of their proximity to a METAR station 
> rather than providing the data themselves. PWS Weather/Aeris may well 
> mention this somewhere but I am yet to find it. 
>
> I think in terms of WeeWX and PWS Weather there is nothing further to be 
> done. The WeeWX PWS Weather uploader uploads the correct data, albeit with 
> no data in the 'weather' field (if someone comes along with an extension to 
> WeeWX that includes suitable data for the 'weather' field then we can 
> certainly extend the PWS Weather uploader to include that data). 
>
> Gary
> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 20:41:18 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This is the response I got from Aeris when I asked them why I wasn't 
>> seeing my own data in "Current Conditions" in the AerisPulse app:
>>
>> *
>> 
>> Nate Flohrs (AerisWeather Support)
>> Feb 1, 2021, 9:40 AM CST
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> Thanks for reaching out to AerisWeather!  For the purposes of providing 
>> complete weather data, the Aeris Pulse app is currently designed to only 
>> return stations that provide sky coverage information.  In your location, 
>> the nearest station that provides those details is several miles away, 
>> which is why you are seeing those results.  
>>
>> If you haven't already, you may want to go to settings > data options and 
>> select "All" as the observations source.  This will ensure that the closest 
>> station that provides sky data will be utilized.  
>>
>> There is an alternative solution that may help you access the data coming 
>> specifically from your station.  Because you are a PWS contributor, you are 
>> eligible for the contributor plan from AerisWeather.  It allows you to 
>> access weather data through our API for no cost while your station is 
>> sending information to our servers.  You can find more details here.  
>>
>> Hopefully that helps to explain the behavior you are seeing!  If you have 
>> any additional questions, please let me know.  
>> Thanks,
>> Nate
>> AerisWeather Support Team
>> https://support.aerisweather.com
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:11:44 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>
>>> I should add my comments re METAR is my supposition; the observation 
>>> related fields (as distinct from API keys, date-times, software name etc) 
>>> in the PWS Weather upload string format are:
>>>
>>> wind direction
>>> wind speed
>>> wind gust speed
>>> temperature
>>> hour rainfall
>>> day rainfall
>>> month rainfall
>>> year rainfall
>>> barometric pressure
>>> dew point
>>> humidity
>>> solar radiation
>>> UV
>>>
>>> and of course the previously mentioned 'weather' field. Provided your 
>>> station has the appropriate sensor WeeWX will upload all of these to PWS 
>>> Weather with the exception of month rainfall and year rainfall.
>>>
>>> Of course the other possibility is that PWS Weather could be deriving 
>>> 'sky cover' itself though, I see no obvious source in the above fields 
>>> though. Probably a question for PWS Weather, and if their answer is 'your 
>>> station needs to

[weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[gjr80]

So the question started as why you weren't seeing your data on an Aeris app 
and the answer was that only those stations that provide sky coverage were 
showing their data on the Aeris app. Subsequently, your question to us was 
how to I submit sky coverage data to PWS Weather. Fair question given the 
AerisWeather response, but as explained earlier this is not possible. The 
issue of a missing link raised by subsequent posts I suspect is largely 
irrelevant, the context of that para from AerisWeather Support was that as 
a PWS contributor you have free access to your data via the AerisWeather 
API. Somehow I don't think that was intended as a solution to getting your 
data to appear on the Aeris app but rather giving you a means to access 
your data (just like the WeatherUnderground API gives you access to your 
data) once you register on AerisWeather and link to your PWS account.

In terms of sky coverage I did a bit of browsing on the PWS Weather station 
map last night and found that when looking at the METAR station at our 
international airport there was indeed a sky coverage plot. When I looked 
at PWS stations nearby the airport they too had a sky coverage plot and it 
was identical in every respect to the METAR sky coverage plot. However, 
once I was too far away from the METAR station (some 15-20km as the crow 
flies) the PWS stations all had no sky coverage plot. I think this tends to 
indicate that PWS stations on the station map are in fact obtaining sky 
coverage by virtue of their proximity to a METAR station rather than 
providing the data themselves. PWS Weather/Aeris may well mention this 
somewhere but I am yet to find it. 

I think in terms of WeeWX and PWS Weather there is nothing further to be 
done. The WeeWX PWS Weather uploader uploads the correct data, albeit with 
no data in the 'weather' field (if someone comes along with an extension to 
WeeWX that includes suitable data for the 'weather' field then we can 
certainly extend the PWS Weather uploader to include that data). 

Gary
On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 20:41:18 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is the response I got from Aeris when I asked them why I wasn't 
> seeing my own data in "Current Conditions" in the AerisPulse app:
>
> *
> 
> Nate Flohrs (AerisWeather Support)
> Feb 1, 2021, 9:40 AM CST
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Thanks for reaching out to AerisWeather!  For the purposes of providing 
> complete weather data, the Aeris Pulse app is currently designed to only 
> return stations that provide sky coverage information.  In your location, 
> the nearest station that provides those details is several miles away, 
> which is why you are seeing those results.  
>
> If you haven't already, you may want to go to settings > data options and 
> select "All" as the observations source.  This will ensure that the closest 
> station that provides sky data will be utilized.  
>
> There is an alternative solution that may help you access the data coming 
> specifically from your station.  Because you are a PWS contributor, you are 
> eligible for the contributor plan from AerisWeather.  It allows you to 
> access weather data through our API for no cost while your station is 
> sending information to our servers.  You can find more details here.  
>
> Hopefully that helps to explain the behavior you are seeing!  If you have 
> any additional questions, please let me know.  
> Thanks,
> Nate
> AerisWeather Support Team
> https://support.aerisweather.com
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:11:44 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>
>> I should add my comments re METAR is my supposition; the observation 
>> related fields (as distinct from API keys, date-times, software name etc) 
>> in the PWS Weather upload string format are:
>>
>> wind direction
>> wind speed
>> wind gust speed
>> temperature
>> hour rainfall
>> day rainfall
>> month rainfall
>> year rainfall
>> barometric pressure
>> dew point
>> humidity
>> solar radiation
>> UV
>>
>> and of course the previously mentioned 'weather' field. Provided your 
>> station has the appropriate sensor WeeWX will upload all of these to PWS 
>> Weather with the exception of month rainfall and year rainfall.
>>
>> Of course the other possibility is that PWS Weather could be deriving 
>> 'sky cover' itself though, I see no obvious source in the above fields 
>> though. Probably a question for PWS Weather, and if their answer is 'your 
>> station needs to upload it' then ask for some documentation; details of the 
>> field name, content, format etc because it does not appear in their PWS 
>> upload documentation they sent to me.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 12:38:02 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the explanation.  I incorrectly thought that cloudcover 
>>> was the data expected by pwsweather.  Now that I see that it is more 
>>> involved, I will wait patiently.  The reason for my interest i

[weewx-user] Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[Bruce Chapman]

Link referenced above:

https://www.aerisweather.com/signup/pws/

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: One more option for Build Your Own enthusiasts

[Terry Steneker]

Hi George,

Yes I did manage to get it working!
I ended up just editing the driver and configuration files where they are 
located.

I installed all of the following libraries:
sudo pip3 install Adafruit-Blinka
sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-bme280
sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-ads1x15
sudo apt-get install python3-w1thermsensor

Change file located in  /usr/share/weewx/user/BCRobotics.py to what I have 
attached
Add the BCRobotics section to the weewx.conf file located in /etc/weewx
Attached is my config file for reference but it has some location specific 
information that you'll need to change.

I reran config and it works!


Let me know how you make out or if you have any questions.

Note for any experts: I tried to run the install.py with the modified 
driver file but got a "module setup not found"
Thought it may be a Python version issue but couldn't determine the Python3 
equivalent. Appreciate any hints.
Maybe later I will add my changes to Github but thats a whole other 
learning session.  

Terry
On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 06:21:04 UTC-8 pred...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> I'm trying to do exactly the same thing.
>
> Did you have any luck with the driver?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> George
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:19:02 PM UTC+2 terry.s...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Can I just modify the code of the already installed driver or would I 
>> need to repackage and reinstall it. I may do that later but its another 
>> piece I need to learn.
>>
>> Also how do I ensure its all running Python3?
>>
>> Thanks for all the help.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 18:45:15 UTC-8 peterq...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Driver looks like it's written for Python2 (the give away to me is the 
>>> print statement on the last line), so you might have a bit of fun fixing 
>>> python2/python3 issues. Not too terribly difficult. If you could get the 
>>> test program to work, you can probably get the driver to work too.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 5:46 PM Terry Steneker  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am using the driver located here: 
 https://github.com/David-Enst/WeeWX-BCRobotics

 I am also attaching the file



 On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 16:53:24 UTC-8 peterq...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> What driver are you using?
> It's going to be really tough to help with this because you have 
> unique hardware and aren't asking a very answerable question. 
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:26 PM Terry Steneker  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I just purchased the BCRobotics board and tried to install the 
>> required software for it. I ran into problems when I tried to test the 
>> BME280 using the Adafruit ADS1x15 library. Kept getting errors and the 
>> python Adafruit_BME280 library is deprecated. 
>>
>> Instead of trying to fix the errors I went the hard way and upgraded 
>> to the adafruit-circuitpython libraries so I can also run Python3
>>
>> sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-bme280
>>
>> sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-ads1x15
>>
>> I then modified the BCRobotics-test-app.py to run under Python3 and 
>> the upgraded Adafruit libraries.
>> Tested the program and it works!
>>
>> I have attached the modified program.
>>
>> I need to modify the driver to work the same as the updated code but 
>> not sure how to do that. Can I just substitute the same modifications 
>> that 
>> I made to the test program? 
>>
>> Thanks
>> Terry
>>
>> On Sunday, 24 November 2019 at 10:25:09 UTC-8 pred...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Louis,
>>>
>>> thank you very much for your reply.
>>>
>>> I didn't realize they first did it with Python 2.7. I though you 
>>> used it in order for it to work with the interceptor driver.
>>>
>>> I'll keep using python 2.7 and your code but it seems that I'm 
>>> missing some libraries.
>>>
>>> (I think I had them all but I keep getting a " BME280_OSAMPLE_8' is 
>>> not defined " etc. errors) 
>>>
>>> I'll try and find the original code and libraries for Python 2.7 and 
>>> do the necessary adjustments.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 7:15 PM Louis De Lange  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 George,

 At the time when I completed that project the tutorial on the 
 BC-Robotics website was written in Python 2.7 so I used all the 2.7 
 libraries in my code.  With some research you should be able to 
 convert the 
 original code to work with python 3 libraries.

 Sorry, I have not updated anything because if it works why break it.

 LDL

 On Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:06:57 UTC-8, George Nimrodel wrote:
>
> Hey Louis,
>
> I'm trying to do exactly what you've do

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[Rainer Lang]

That would imho be rather stupid. Why would they "sell" a link which 
leads to applying for a PWS/aeris account as detailed information to an 
existing user ?

What added value would an existing user get by applying again ???
Maybe there's still something more to it.

@Bruce: can you provide the link that was in their mail so we can at 
least see if it's something useful or rather useless.


On 18.02.2021 17:42, Karen K wrote:
I would also think, that the link is general information about 
contributor plan or something, only.



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[weewx-user] Weewx-import of Mesonet API data

[David Cowell]

Has anyone made the extension of importing Mesonet data. They have a Python 
API. See 
https://developers.synopticdata.com/mesonet/v2/examples/#javascript

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[Karen K]

I would also think, that the link is general information about contributor 
plan or something, only.


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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[storm...@gmail.com]

Try this link: https://www.aerisweather.com/signup/pws

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 6:23:58 AM UTC-5 lang@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> I think, the crucial information we are looking for is hidden here: "You 
> can find more details here.  "
> I suppose there was a link which wasn't copied over with the text.
> Would you mind providing this link ?
>
> Thanks
> On 18.02.2021 11:41, bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> You can find more details here.  
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: One more option for Build Your Own enthusiasts

[pred...@gmail.com]

Hi Terry,

I'm trying to do exactly the same thing.

Did you have any luck with the driver?

Thanks in advance.

George

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:19:02 PM UTC+2 terry.s...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Can I just modify the code of the already installed driver or would I need 
> to repackage and reinstall it. I may do that later but its another piece I 
> need to learn.
>
> Also how do I ensure its all running Python3?
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> Terry
>
> On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 18:45:15 UTC-8 peterq...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Driver looks like it's written for Python2 (the give away to me is the 
>> print statement on the last line), so you might have a bit of fun fixing 
>> python2/python3 issues. Not too terribly difficult. If you could get the 
>> test program to work, you can probably get the driver to work too.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 5:46 PM Terry Steneker  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am using the driver located here: 
>>> https://github.com/David-Enst/WeeWX-BCRobotics
>>>
>>> I am also attaching the file
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 16:53:24 UTC-8 peterq...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What driver are you using?
 It's going to be really tough to help with this because you have unique 
 hardware and aren't asking a very answerable question. 

 On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:26 PM Terry Steneker  
 wrote:

>
> I just purchased the BCRobotics board and tried to install the 
> required software for it. I ran into problems when I tried to test the 
> BME280 using the Adafruit ADS1x15 library. Kept getting errors and the 
> python Adafruit_BME280 library is deprecated. 
>
> Instead of trying to fix the errors I went the hard way and upgraded 
> to the adafruit-circuitpython libraries so I can also run Python3
>
> sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-bme280
>
> sudo pip3 install adafruit-circuitpython-ads1x15
>
> I then modified the BCRobotics-test-app.py to run under Python3 and 
> the upgraded Adafruit libraries.
> Tested the program and it works!
>
> I have attached the modified program.
>
> I need to modify the driver to work the same as the updated code but 
> not sure how to do that. Can I just substitute the same modifications 
> that 
> I made to the test program? 
>
> Thanks
> Terry
>
> On Sunday, 24 November 2019 at 10:25:09 UTC-8 pred...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Louis,
>>
>> thank you very much for your reply.
>>
>> I didn't realize they first did it with Python 2.7. I though you used 
>> it in order for it to work with the interceptor driver.
>>
>> I'll keep using python 2.7 and your code but it seems that I'm 
>> missing some libraries.
>>
>> (I think I had them all but I keep getting a " BME280_OSAMPLE_8' is 
>> not defined " etc. errors) 
>>
>> I'll try and find the original code and libraries for Python 2.7 and 
>> do the necessary adjustments.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 7:15 PM Louis De Lange  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> George,
>>>
>>> At the time when I completed that project the tutorial on the 
>>> BC-Robotics website was written in Python 2.7 so I used all the 2.7 
>>> libraries in my code.  With some research you should be able to convert 
>>> the 
>>> original code to work with python 3 libraries.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I have not updated anything because if it works why break it.
>>>
>>> LDL
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:06:57 UTC-8, George Nimrodel wrote:

 Hey Louis,

 I'm trying to do exactly what you've done with the difference that 
 I have weewx running on the RPi and I'm using only the BME280 for 
 temperature in a separate enclosure.

 I'm having a bit of a trouble with your code. I keep getting errors 
 regarding the libraries.

 I've noticed that you are not using the python 3 libraries from the 
 tutorial.

 I would appreciate it if you could tell me which steps you took 
 that are not included in the tutorial in order for your code to work.

 Any other pointers would also be appreciated

 Thank in advance!

 On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 5:53:25 AM UTC+2, Louis De Lange 
 wrote:
>
> I recently came across a really excellent solution for putting 
> together your own weather station on the cheap with high quality 
> sensors - 
> and most importantly a very useful weather HAT to use with a 
> Raspberry PI 
> to connect all the sensors.
>
> It comes complete with a 4 part step by step tutorial to assemble 
> the whole station, and basic code to upload the data to and online 
> service 
>>>

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[Rainer Lang]

I think, the crucial information we are looking for is hidden here: "You 
can find more details here.  "

I suppose there was a link which wasn't copied over with the text.
Would you mind providing this link ?

Thanks

On 18.02.2021 11:41, bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
You can find more details here. 


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[weewx-user] Re: Sky Cover data to pwsweather.com

[bchap...@gmail.com]

This is the response I got from Aeris when I asked them why I wasn't seeing 
my own data in "Current Conditions" in the AerisPulse app:

*

Nate Flohrs (AerisWeather Support)
Feb 1, 2021, 9:40 AM CST

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for reaching out to AerisWeather!  For the purposes of providing 
complete weather data, the Aeris Pulse app is currently designed to only 
return stations that provide sky coverage information.  In your location, 
the nearest station that provides those details is several miles away, 
which is why you are seeing those results.  

If you haven't already, you may want to go to settings > data options and 
select "All" as the observations source.  This will ensure that the closest 
station that provides sky data will be utilized.  

There is an alternative solution that may help you access the data coming 
specifically from your station.  Because you are a PWS contributor, you are 
eligible for the contributor plan from AerisWeather.  It allows you to 
access weather data through our API for no cost while your station is 
sending information to our servers.  You can find more details here.  

Hopefully that helps to explain the behavior you are seeing!  If you have 
any additional questions, please let me know.  
Thanks,
Nate
AerisWeather Support Team
https://support.aerisweather.com

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:11:44 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:

> I should add my comments re METAR is my supposition; the observation 
> related fields (as distinct from API keys, date-times, software name etc) 
> in the PWS Weather upload string format are:
>
> wind direction
> wind speed
> wind gust speed
> temperature
> hour rainfall
> day rainfall
> month rainfall
> year rainfall
> barometric pressure
> dew point
> humidity
> solar radiation
> UV
>
> and of course the previously mentioned 'weather' field. Provided your 
> station has the appropriate sensor WeeWX will upload all of these to PWS 
> Weather with the exception of month rainfall and year rainfall.
>
> Of course the other possibility is that PWS Weather could be deriving 'sky 
> cover' itself though, I see no obvious source in the above fields though. 
> Probably a question for PWS Weather, and if their answer is 'your station 
> needs to upload it' then ask for some documentation; details of the field 
> name, content, format etc because it does not appear in their PWS upload 
> documentation they sent to me.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 12:38:02 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the explanation.  I incorrectly thought that cloudcover was 
>> the data expected by pwsweather.  Now that I see that it is more involved, 
>> I will wait patiently.  The reason for my interest is that the AerisPulse 
>> app gives me data from a station many miles from me when I am reporting 
>> data to them.  Their explanation is that they only use data from stations 
>> that report Sky Cover data.  All others are ignored.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the explanation.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Short answer is the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader does not support any form 
>>> of 'sky cover percentage'. 
>>>
>>> In looking at the upload string format recently provided by PWSWeather 
>>> the only field I can see that might support 'sky cover percentage' is the 
>>> 'weather' field which is described as ' Current weather or sky conditions 
>>> using standard METAR abbreviations and intensity (e.g. -RA, +SN, SKC, 
>>> etc.)'. I expect you could include cloud coverage in octas in this somehow, 
>>> but I am no METAR expert. The WeeWX PWSWeather uploader does not support 
>>> the weather field and there is so simple config change available to the 
>>> user make it do so. It would involve writing code. I do have a task to 
>>> review the various uploaders included in the WeeWX core, but that is 
>>> somewhat on the back burner at present and since WeeWX does not 
>>> provide/generate METAR info per se, I am not sure whether that review would 
>>> result in the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader supporting the 'weather' field.
>>>
>>> As Vince said I am intrigued as to what data it is that you want to 
>>> upload. I am not aware of the GW1000 emitting any sort of cloud cover data, 
>>> either via its API or through any of its weather service upload formats. 
>>> You mention cloudbase, WeeWX will certainly calculate cloudbase provided 
>>> the pre-requisite data is available (fields outTemp and outHumidity) but 
>>> cloudbase is only a theoretical value for the cloud height; it does not in 
>>> any way relate to percentage cloud cover.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 10:30:50 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I don't know.  I don't think it has anything to do with Belchertown.  
 pwsweather is looking for sky cover percentage.  I know that a few 
 stations 
 report this and I'm wondering how it