Oh, and I forgot to mention. Your missing six messages found their way into 
the spam folder, Groups seems to have a habit of randomly doing this 
sometimes. I don't know why, especially when your seventh attempt worked! 
In any case I deleted them, could not see the point of letting them through 
now.

Gary


On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 14:36:18 UTC+10 gjr80 wrote:

> So the question started as why you weren't seeing your data on an Aeris 
> app and the answer was that only those stations that provide sky coverage 
> were showing their data on the Aeris app. Subsequently, your question to us 
> was how to I submit sky coverage data to PWS Weather. Fair question given 
> the AerisWeather response, but as explained earlier this is not possible. 
> The issue of a missing link raised by subsequent posts I suspect is largely 
> irrelevant, the context of that para from AerisWeather Support was that as 
> a PWS contributor you have free access to your data via the AerisWeather 
> API. Somehow I don't think that was intended as a solution to getting your 
> data to appear on the Aeris app but rather giving you a means to access 
> your data (just like the WeatherUnderground API gives you access to your 
> data) once you register on AerisWeather and link to your PWS account.
>
> In terms of sky coverage I did a bit of browsing on the PWS Weather 
> station map last night and found that when looking at the METAR station at 
> our international airport there was indeed a sky coverage plot. When I 
> looked at PWS stations nearby the airport they too had a sky coverage plot 
> and it was identical in every respect to the METAR sky coverage plot. 
> However, once I was too far away from the METAR station (some 15-20km as 
> the crow flies) the PWS stations all had no sky coverage plot. I think this 
> tends to indicate that PWS stations on the station map are in fact 
> obtaining sky coverage by virtue of their proximity to a METAR station 
> rather than providing the data themselves. PWS Weather/Aeris may well 
> mention this somewhere but I am yet to find it. 
>
> I think in terms of WeeWX and PWS Weather there is nothing further to be 
> done. The WeeWX PWS Weather uploader uploads the correct data, albeit with 
> no data in the 'weather' field (if someone comes along with an extension to 
> WeeWX that includes suitable data for the 'weather' field then we can 
> certainly extend the PWS Weather uploader to include that data). 
>
> Gary
> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 20:41:18 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This is the response I got from Aeris when I asked them why I wasn't 
>> seeing my own data in "Current Conditions" in the AerisPulse app:
>>
>> *****************************************************
>>     
>> Nate Flohrs (AerisWeather Support)
>> Feb 1, 2021, 9:40 AM CST
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> Thanks for reaching out to AerisWeather!  For the purposes of providing 
>> complete weather data, the Aeris Pulse app is currently designed to only 
>> return stations that provide sky coverage information.  In your location, 
>> the nearest station that provides those details is several miles away, 
>> which is why you are seeing those results.  
>>
>> If you haven't already, you may want to go to settings > data options and 
>> select "All" as the observations source.  This will ensure that the closest 
>> station that provides sky data will be utilized.  
>>
>> There is an alternative solution that may help you access the data coming 
>> specifically from your station.  Because you are a PWS contributor, you are 
>> eligible for the contributor plan from AerisWeather.  It allows you to 
>> access weather data through our API for no cost while your station is 
>> sending information to our servers.  You can find more details here.  
>>
>> Hopefully that helps to explain the behavior you are seeing!  If you have 
>> any additional questions, please let me know.  
>> Thanks,
>> Nate
>> AerisWeather Support Team
>> https://support.aerisweather.com
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:11:44 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>
>>> I should add my comments re METAR is my supposition; the observation 
>>> related fields (as distinct from API keys, date-times, software name etc) 
>>> in the PWS Weather upload string format are:
>>>
>>> wind direction
>>> wind speed
>>> wind gust speed
>>> temperature
>>> hour rainfall
>>> day rainfall
>>> month rainfall
>>> year rainfall
>>> barometric pressure
>>> dew point
>>> humidity
>>> solar radiation
>>> UV
>>>
>>> and of course the previously mentioned 'weather' field. Provided your 
>>> station has the appropriate sensor WeeWX will upload all of these to PWS 
>>> Weather with the exception of month rainfall and year rainfall.
>>>
>>> Of course the other possibility is that PWS Weather could be deriving 
>>> 'sky cover' itself though, I see no obvious source in the above fields 
>>> though. Probably a question for PWS Weather, and if their answer is 'your 
>>> station needs to upload it' then ask for some documentation; details of the 
>>> field name, content, format etc because it does not appear in their PWS 
>>> upload documentation they sent to me.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 12:38:02 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the explanation.  I incorrectly thought that cloudcover 
>>>> was the data expected by pwsweather.  Now that I see that it is more 
>>>> involved, I will wait patiently.  The reason for my interest is that the 
>>>> AerisPulse app gives me data from a station many miles from me when I am 
>>>> reporting data to them.  Their explanation is that they only use data from 
>>>> stations that report Sky Cover data.  All others are ignored.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks for the explanation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-5 gjr80 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Short answer is the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader does not support any 
>>>>> form of 'sky cover percentage'. 
>>>>>
>>>>> In looking at the upload string format recently provided by PWSWeather 
>>>>> the only field I can see that might support 'sky cover percentage' is the 
>>>>> 'weather' field which is described as ' Current weather or sky conditions 
>>>>> using standard METAR abbreviations and intensity (e.g. -RA, +SN, SKC, 
>>>>> etc.)'. I expect you could include cloud coverage in octas in this 
>>>>> somehow, 
>>>>> but I am no METAR expert. The WeeWX PWSWeather uploader does not support 
>>>>> the weather field and there is so simple config change available to the 
>>>>> user make it do so. It would involve writing code. I do have a task to 
>>>>> review the various uploaders included in the WeeWX core, but that is 
>>>>> somewhat on the back burner at present and since WeeWX does not 
>>>>> provide/generate METAR info per se, I am not sure whether that review 
>>>>> would 
>>>>> result in the WeeWX PWSWeather uploader supporting the 'weather' field.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Vince said I am intrigued as to what data it is that you want to 
>>>>> upload. I am not aware of the GW1000 emitting any sort of cloud cover 
>>>>> data, 
>>>>> either via its API or through any of its weather service upload formats. 
>>>>> You mention cloudbase, WeeWX will certainly calculate cloudbase provided 
>>>>> the pre-requisite data is available (fields outTemp and outHumidity) but 
>>>>> cloudbase is only a theoretical value for the cloud height; it does not 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> any way relate to percentage cloud cover.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 10:30:50 UTC+10 bchap...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know.  I don't think it has anything to do with Belchertown.  
>>>>>> pwsweather is looking for sky cover percentage.  I know that a few 
>>>>>> stations 
>>>>>> report this and I'm wondering how it is done.  All other data is 
>>>>>> reporting.  My data is calculating cloud base however, pwsweather is 
>>>>>> looking for a percentage.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:59:44 PM UTC-5 vince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 1:35:41 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>> bchap...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m sending data to pwsweather.com using a GW1000 and I can’t 
>>>>>>>> figure out how to send Sky Cover data.  conf file below
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which element in which database has that data to begin with ?
>>>>>>> I'm sure not seeing it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you sure it's not something calculated magically by Belchertown 
>>>>>>> and not actually saved in a db by weewx ?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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