Re: [weewx-user] Digest for weewx-user@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 1 topic

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2023 20 Dec 14:01 -0600, Nick Kavanagh wrote:
> Thanks so much for the opinions and links. Got some good starting points
> now, especially now I'm aware of some good places to look for used
> equipment to be able to assemble something that does not "phone home". I
> had no idea that the newer Davis gear did that.

The latest Davis console, the 6313, does that for updates which is one
thing, but it can only upload to the Davis Weather Link site, as I
understand, which is quite another thing.  One either needs to forward
it from there to other services such as WU or CWOP, which the following
thread discusses, or download it into WeeWX to do your own thing with
your data (does that require a paid subscription?).

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=45032.0

That is a long thread about the 6313--the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Quite simply, weather is big business and these manufacturers are
seeking to monetize as much of that as they can.  Designing the
equipment so it can only work with their service is one way of doing so.
Suffice it to say, I'm not on board with that!

- Nate

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Re: [weewx-user] Digest for weewx-user@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 1 topic

[Nick Kavanagh]

Thanks so much for the opinions and links. Got some good starting points
now, especially now I'm aware of some good places to look for used
equipment to be able to assemble something that does not "phone home". I
had no idea that the newer Davis gear did that.

With the Accurite, I was able to make everything work on a dedicated Pi 4,
with sdr and mqtt. I used sdr to get packets from the Accurite and Accurite
sensors, while my homemade (ESP32 boards with various bme and bmr sensors)
fed weewx through mqtt. The ESP32's sensors seem to agree with one another
within a tight range, and I'm pretty pleased with them. The Accurite
sensors for outdoors often disagreed by quite a lot, not on the mast but
their addon temp and lightning sensors. In fact the lightning sensor was so
often incorrect that I just dropped it. So I like the idea of the big
startup Davis Christmas purchase and adding the extra sensors once a month.

We had a significant wind event here Monday and my internal weather-geek
was very disappointed I couldn't measure it!

Again, thanks to all of you. Now, I'm going shopping!

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> Best Davis station for my buck, and purpose?
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> Nick Kavanagh : Dec 19 10:46AM -0500
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> I recently moved and made the conscious choice to leave my Accurite 7 in
> one behind, intending on a major upgrade now that I'm a homeowner and not
> renter.
>
> Now, I'm overwhelmed by choice. For my purposes, I'm looking for good
> quality and accuracy, setting my weather website back up, contributing to
> NOAA, and integrating my homemade temp/humidity/pressure sensors within my
> house. I'm not trying to provide data for flight/navigation etc., so I'm
> somewhat in the middle. I want a great system, but not a purely
> professional system either.
>
> Blah, blah, blah... what recommendations do you have for best bang for the
> buck in that kind of use case? My wallet wants to open around 300 dollars,
> but will have to slam shut again at about 800. I THINK I want Davis, but am
> quite willing to look at any others some of you might suggest.
>
> TIA,
> Nick K.
> "michael.k...@gmx.at" : Dec 19 08:05AM -0800
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> Davis and $300, doesn't sound this fits together.
>
> In my opinion, currently the Ecowitt universe provides the most flexible,
> most adaptable and most extendable hardware on the market. You can start
> tiny and go big, they even provide a whole range of different sensors,
> allowing you to adapt you system to you special needs. Currently, and
> hopefully they don't go the evil way like others, you also have the
> possibility to locally access and collect all your data, even without
> being
> forced to have your devices online.
>
> You can "build your own" station with Ecowitt components. Start, for
> instance, with outTemp/humi, barometer, wind, rain, radiation sensors and
> a
> console for ~$300. Expand your system with a lightning sensor a month
> later, buy soil moisture and leaf wetness sensor for Easter, let Santa
> bring half a dozen extra humi/temp and air quality sensors next Christmas.
> If a sensor breaks? Get a spare, everything is sold separately.
>
> They are not perfect, but usually you find a way to get around the
> limitations.
>
> Their hardware is also sold differently branded by some resellers.
>
> Nick Kavanagh schrieb am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2023 um 16:46:54 UTC+1:
>
> Tom Hogland : Dec 19 10:02AM -0800
>
> The Davis Vantage Pro2 would do what you want, other than using your
> homemade sensors. The console has built-in sensors, though. I've bought
> two
> of them used - first a cabled one, then a wireless one, and neither was
> over $800. You can find them new in that range these days. Get the old
> console, not the new one, or find a sensor suite and add the console and
> datalogger (either Davis datalogger or the 3rd party one that's been
> discussed here). The dataloggers will connect directly to a PC, or you can
> use the Weatherlink Live and sniff the packets - either way works. I
> recently saw a complete station on eBay in the $500s - sensors, console
> and
> datalogger.
>
> You could also go the Tempest route, which has all the datalogger stuff
> built in but no console, then add a tablet of some kind and the free
> Tempest Console package. Another packet sniffing option for weewx.
>
> Tempest is more consumer-grade, slightly larger