Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Andrew Milner]

What a SUPER paper Tom - just what I could have done with when when in my 
prime and making international systems for use from USA to Russia and all 
points inbetween . now it's a case of proving the old dog is capable of 
learning new tricks that is a beautifully crafted paper though with 
just the right levels of seriousness and light-heartedness.

Not had such an informed read for a long time.

Thanks for the link - now bookmarked for posterity!!


On Wednesday, 23 November 2016 03:55:16 UTC+2, Tom Keffer wrote:

> About a decade ago, I read this paper *The Absolute Minimum Every 
> Software Developer Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and 
> Character Sets .* It 
> does a great job of explaining code sets. Even if you're not a developer, 
> it explains why some email comes out as gobbledygook. Highly recommended.
>
> -tk
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim W. 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tom. I appreciate all the help you have given me!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>
>>> The directive "strict_ascii" means just that: only characters that can 
>>> be represented in the 7 bits, or 127 characters, of the ascii code set will 
>>> be printed. This does not include the degree sign.
>>>
>>> If you truly want a degree symbol, you will have to choose an encoding. 
>>> While there are dozens out there, weewx offers only two: 'html_entities', 
>>> or 'utf8'. 
>>>
>>> The former, html_entities, will cause weewx to emit
>>>
>>> °
>>>
>>>
>>> which all browsers will recognize as a degree sign. Most text editors 
>>> will not.
>>>
>>> The latter, utf8, will use multibyte encoding and weewx will emit two 
>>> bytes
>>>
>>> 0xC2 0xB0
>>>
>>>
>>> which most browsers and text editors will print as a degree sign. But, 
>>> not all. 
>>>
>>> I would suggest using utf8 and see if that works for you.
>>>
>>> I know code sets can seem terribly confusing and that's because they 
>>> are. There are countless different ways of jamming all the characters we 
>>> commonly use in a handful of bytes. Fortunately, these days, the world has 
>>> pretty much settled on UTF8.
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>>>
 Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I 
 have modified the Standard skin.conf file with:


 [[[temp.txt]]]
 # Report that makes current outTemp available to other 
 program
 encoding = strict_ascii
 template = temp.txt.tmpl

 and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:

 $current.dateTime
 $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
 $trend.outTemp
  
 and the txt file generated looks like:


 11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
 37.6F
 -4.2F

 Thanks for any insight!

  




 On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx 
> installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to 
> skin.conf?
>
> What is the platform?
>
> -tk
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>
>> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question 
>> regarding the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and 
>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected 
>> result EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... 
>> and 
>> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
>> Thanks for any insight!
>>
>> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the 
>> delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies! 
>>
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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Thomas Keffer]

About a decade ago, I read this paper *The Absolute Minimum Every Software
Developer Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and Character Sets
.* It does a great job
of explaining code sets. Even if you're not a developer, it explains why
some email comes out as gobbledygook. Highly recommended.

-tk

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim W.  wrote:

> Thanks Tom. I appreciate all the help you have given me!
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>> The directive "strict_ascii" means just that: only characters that can
>> be represented in the 7 bits, or 127 characters, of the ascii code set will
>> be printed. This does not include the degree sign.
>>
>> If you truly want a degree symbol, you will have to choose an encoding.
>> While there are dozens out there, weewx offers only two: 'html_entities',
>> or 'utf8'.
>>
>> The former, html_entities, will cause weewx to emit
>>
>> °
>>
>>
>> which all browsers will recognize as a degree sign. Most text editors
>> will not.
>>
>> The latter, utf8, will use multibyte encoding and weewx will emit two
>> bytes
>>
>> 0xC2 0xB0
>>
>>
>> which most browsers and text editors will print as a degree sign. But,
>> not all.
>>
>> I would suggest using utf8 and see if that works for you.
>>
>> I know code sets can seem terribly confusing and that's because they are.
>> There are countless different ways of jamming all the characters we
>> commonly use in a handful of bytes. Fortunately, these days, the world has
>> pretty much settled on UTF8.
>>
>> -tk
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I
>>> have modified the Standard skin.conf file with:
>>>
>>>
>>> [[[temp.txt]]]
>>> # Report that makes current outTemp available to other
>>> program
>>> encoding = strict_ascii
>>> template = temp.txt.tmpl
>>>
>>> and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:
>>>
>>> $current.dateTime
>>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
>>> $trend.outTemp
>>>
>>> and the txt file generated looks like:
>>>
>>>
>>> 11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
>>> 37.6F
>>> -4.2F
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:

 We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx
 installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?

 What is the platform?

 -tk





 On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:

> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding
> the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and
> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result
> EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and
> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
> Thanks for any insight!
>
> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the
> delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies!
>
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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Jim W.]

Thanks Tom. I appreciate all the help you have given me!

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> The directive "strict_ascii" means just that: only characters that can be 
> represented in the 7 bits, or 127 characters, of the ascii code set will be 
> printed. This does not include the degree sign.
>
> If you truly want a degree symbol, you will have to choose an encoding. 
> While there are dozens out there, weewx offers only two: 'html_entities', 
> or 'utf8'. 
>
> The former, html_entities, will cause weewx to emit
>
> °
>
>
> which all browsers will recognize as a degree sign. Most text editors will 
> not.
>
> The latter, utf8, will use multibyte encoding and weewx will emit two 
> bytes
>
> 0xC2 0xB0
>
>
> which most browsers and text editors will print as a degree sign. But, not 
> all. 
>
> I would suggest using utf8 and see if that works for you.
>
> I know code sets can seem terribly confusing and that's because they are. 
> There are countless different ways of jamming all the characters we 
> commonly use in a handful of bytes. Fortunately, these days, the world has 
> pretty much settled on UTF8.
>
> -tk
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jim W. 
> > wrote:
>
>> Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I have 
>> modified the Standard skin.conf file with:
>>
>>
>> [[[temp.txt]]]
>> # Report that makes current outTemp available to other program
>> encoding = strict_ascii
>> template = temp.txt.tmpl
>>
>> and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:
>>
>> $current.dateTime
>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
>> $trend.outTemp
>>  
>> and the txt file generated looks like:
>>
>>
>> 11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
>> 37.6F
>> -4.2F
>>
>> Thanks for any insight!
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>
>>> We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx 
>>> installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?
>>>
>>> What is the platform?
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>>>
 At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding 
 the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and 
 $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result 
 EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and 
 re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
 Thanks for any insight!

 Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the 
 delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies! 

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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Thomas Keffer]

The directive "strict_ascii" means just that: only characters that can be
represented in the 7 bits, or 127 characters, of the ascii code set will be
printed. This does not include the degree sign.

If you truly want a degree symbol, you will have to choose an encoding.
While there are dozens out there, weewx offers only two: 'html_entities',
or 'utf8'.

The former, html_entities, will cause weewx to emit

°


which all browsers will recognize as a degree sign. Most text editors will
not.

The latter, utf8, will use multibyte encoding and weewx will emit two bytes

0xC2 0xB0


which most browsers and text editors will print as a degree sign. But, not
all.

I would suggest using utf8 and see if that works for you.

I know code sets can seem terribly confusing and that's because they are.
There are countless different ways of jamming all the characters we
commonly use in a handful of bytes. Fortunately, these days, the world has
pretty much settled on UTF8.

-tk



On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jim W.  wrote:

> Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I have
> modified the Standard skin.conf file with:
>
>
> [[[temp.txt]]]
> # Report that makes current outTemp available to other program
> encoding = strict_ascii
> template = temp.txt.tmpl
>
> and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:
>
> $current.dateTime
> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
> $trend.outTemp
>
> and the txt file generated looks like:
>
>
> 11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
> 37.6F
> -4.2F
>
> Thanks for any insight!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>> We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx
>> installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?
>>
>> What is the platform?
>>
>> -tk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding
>>> the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and
>>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result
>>> EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and
>>> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
>>> Thanks for any insight!
>>>
>>> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the
>>> delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies!
>>>
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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Jim W.]

Oh... and weewx version = 3.5.0

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:44:27 PM UTC-5, Jim W. wrote:
>
> Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I have 
> modified the Standard skin.conf file with:
>
>
> [[[temp.txt]]]
> # Report that makes current outTemp available to other program
> encoding = strict_ascii
> template = temp.txt.tmpl
>
> and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:
>
> $current.dateTime
> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
> $trend.outTemp
>  
> and the txt file generated looks like:
>
>
> 11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
> 37.6F
> -4.2F
>
> Thanks for any insight!
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>> We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx 
>> installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?
>>
>> What is the platform?
>>
>> -tk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding 
>>> the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and 
>>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result 
>>> EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and 
>>> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
>>> Thanks for any insight!
>>>
>>> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the 
>>> delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies! 
>>>
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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Jim W.]

Sorry.. Rpi3b running latest Raspbian. Installed from DEB package. I have 
modified the Standard skin.conf file with:


[[[temp.txt]]]
# Report that makes current outTemp available to other program
encoding = strict_ascii
template = temp.txt.tmpl

and the temp.txt.tmpl file looks like:

$current.dateTime
$current.outTemp.format("%.1f")
$trend.outTemp
 
and the txt file generated looks like:


11/22/2016 06:30:00 PM
37.6F
-4.2F

Thanks for any insight!

 




On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:40:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx 
> installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?
>
> What is the platform?
>
> -tk
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W. 
> > wrote:
>
>> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding 
>> the degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and 
>> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result 
>> EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and 
>> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
>> Thanks for any insight!
>>
>> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the 
>> delete key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies! 
>>
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Re: [weewx-user] degree symbol not showing?

[Thomas Keffer]

We're going to need a little more information. Is this a stock weewx
installation? Or, have you made modifications to the skins or to skin.conf?

What is the platform?

-tk





On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim W.  wrote:

> At the risk of inciting the fury of AM...  I have a question regarding the
> degree symbol. I'm using the tag $current.outTemp and
> $current.outTemp.format("%.1f")  and both produce the expected result
> EXCEPT without the little degree symbol? I have read, re-read... and
> re-re-read the Customization guide but can't figure it out?
> Thanks for any insight!
>
> Ps... If this question causes an apoplectic reaction please hit the delete
> key... take a deep breath and think of butterflies!
>
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