Re: [WestNileNet] Liri Xavier
done On May 5, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Richard Andruma wrote: Hi Kiggs! Add Eng Michael Eraku Lalia to WestNilenet. His mail address is eramalgr...@yahoo.com From: Kiggundu Mukasa kiggu...@kym.net To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 2:26:58 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Liri Xavier done On May 3, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Bernard Vigga wrote: Hi Kiggs, Could you add liri.f.xav...@gmail.com to the mailing list? Kind regards, ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] Request Vetting Mails before posting
Dear Bros/Sisters, Can I beg all of us to cancel exchange of hot words online and concentrate on objectives, I suppose we all have private e-mail addresses, which everyone knows, and if you have extensive personalized grievances, don't let every know, because, our attentions will drawn from West Nile objectives to personal ones. You can see we are everyday loosing prominent memberships been deregistered because of such spam of mails, this website is a social site which has disclaimer, Iam requesting the webmasters/posters to scrutinize every mails before been relayed to members at large otherwise the server may get full of unsolicited mails, Thanks for our usual cooperation, and let's grow together Peter ODAMA On 5 May 2010 10:47, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine -- *From:* Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; *Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well.* I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or *whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. *Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i need it and i know many others out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put it to good use. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks (*Practicing Advocate with* *M/s Akile, Olok Advocates* *Kampala)* -- *From:* christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas. I also agree that our people are generally lazy. Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government, we can do everything. We have a part to play and government has a part to play and both parties must come to a table for this to happen. I think this is what we are saying here. Construction and equipment of health centers is done by governement for example,
Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A
Was this kind of language necessary? Bernard From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:09 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i need it and i know many others out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put it to good use. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks (Practicing Advocate with M/s Akile, Olok Advocates Kampala) From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas. I also agree that our people are generally lazy. Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government, we can do everything. We have a part to play and government has a part to play and both parties must come to a table for this to happen. I think this is what we are saying here. Construction and equipment of health centers is done by governement for example, unless it is private and but even then it is the government to give the permission for it to happen. We shall beat about the bush but we shall not run away from the truth. From: francis azabo ajaxaz...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:04:42 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Nice one Emma, I believe everything has a starting point. Even the best laid strategies can fail if implementation is bad. I believe when
Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A
Dear Christine, I like your courage to speak up your mind. It is good to have an outspoken lady like you on this forum which is dominated by men. I have two small problems with your latest posting. The first is the not-so-nice language (e.g. you have a skewed mind). The second relates to the fact that you have chosen to attack character (e.g. no action of yours has worked) but not ideas. It would be more civilized if we kept our cool and just focused our disagreements on ideas not the persons behind the ideas. We need to be tolerant to opposing views even if such views offend us. In other words, why don't we engage in intellectual debates instead of personal attacks? This kind of vile language and ping pong pisses off many people, myself inclusive. If you feel strongly about something, you can send a private email to whoever you are aggrieved with. That way, we won't know you lost your cool. Thanks, Ben On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because *there is no action of yours which has also worked*. But my understanding is that* many of you do not understand the arguments here*, so it is of no importance to continue. If *you have a skewed mind* for what ever reason, *you fail to objectively understand* that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine -- *From:* Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; *Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well.* I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or *whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. *Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i need it and i know many others out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put it to good use. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks (*Practicing Advocate with* *M/s Akile, Olok Advocates* *Kampala)* -- *From:* christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas. I also agree that our people are generally lazy. Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government, we can do everything. We have a part to play and
Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A
Ben, I share your view. One time, I opined that we need to be tolerant of each others views. We can always disagree but lets emulate the House of Lords. Those guys are so gracious even when they disagree. Christine is a nice lady and open to learning. Hope she won't look at this as a problem. In our profession, when you loose a case, you get up, bow and thank the Judge or Magistrate. Can you imagine. Even when the Judge has erred and failed to appreciate the Law. You don't throw invectives and call the Judge names. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Bernard Bonton Obaa obaa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bernard Bonton Obaa obaa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 9:39 AM Dear Christine, I like your courage to speak up your mind. It is good to have an outspoken lady like you on this forum which is dominated by men. I have two small problems with your latest posting. The first is the not-so-nice language (e.g. you have a skewed mind). The second relates to the fact that you have chosen to attack character (e.g. no action of yours has worked) but not ideas. It would be more civilized if we kept our cool and just focused our disagreements on ideas not the persons behind the ideas. We need to be tolerant to opposing views even if such views offend us. In other words, why don't we engage in intellectual debates instead of personal attacks? This kind of vile language and ping pong pisses off many people, myself inclusive. If you feel strongly about something, you can send a private email to whoever you are aggrieved with. That way, we won't know you lost your cool. Thanks, Ben On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i need it and i know many others out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put it to good use. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks (Practicing Advocate with M/s Akile, Olok Advocates Kampala) From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A
Christine, I highly concur with the postings of Benard and Obaa. By the way did you read my posting between the lines or between the legs (excuse my language)! Well.be that as it may, I will never reply you in kind but only encourage you to never abandon the debate as you would like to. I strongly identified with your views and others alike of the state of affairs in our region. If there was anything i personaly stood for and still i am for adverse views such as yours being entertained on this forum. I stood by one called Majid Alemi (who is now history on this forum) when there were sugestions that he should be switched off for his kind of mind. I even warned lee when he began this debate whereas i identified with it. Please don't kill the goose that lays a golden egg. Please reflect once again on my posting that has provocked the reaction from you and read it. You will find that i had another mirror of looking at our inherent fear from the perspective of a fight in the market by a vendor of eggs.That was the kind i was discouraging us from. I meant we should fight for our rights and get what we want. We should never harbour the fear of a vendor of eggs in the market that once he begins a fight he will loose his eggs thus he should not fight to defend his rights. Further still, my posting with much respect served a reminder to our committee pursuing the establishment of a University at our doorstep. That for them to bargain successfully from the government in place, fear should be cast aside for them to get the best. Now where was my mind skewed because of this? In you previous posting didn't you talk about fear being our main problem? Where is our disagreement? Please normalise normaly and continue with this debate. I share the pain and sentiments that you hold for the sake of our cause as a region. Akile Sunday Igu Rocks From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:09 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic. Christine From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A Christine, I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others. It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the race.University or what ever The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!. Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the same. Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. Share your Research with us; Cos, i