Re: [WestNileNet] Liri Xavier

2010-05-05 Thread Kiggundu Mukasa


done


On May 5, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Richard Andruma wrote:


Hi Kiggs!

Add Eng Michael Eraku Lalia to WestNilenet. His mail address is  
eramalgr...@yahoo.com


From: Kiggundu Mukasa kiggu...@kym.net
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 2:26:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Liri Xavier



done


On May 3, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Bernard Vigga wrote:


Hi Kiggs,

Could you add liri.f.xav...@gmail.com to the mailing list?

Kind regards,

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[WestNileNet] Request Vetting Mails before posting

2010-05-05 Thread peter odama
Dear Bros/Sisters,

Can I beg all of us to cancel exchange of hot words online and concentrate
on objectives, I suppose we all have private e-mail addresses, which
everyone knows, and if you have extensive personalized grievances, don't let
every know, because, our attentions will drawn from West Nile objectives to
personal ones.
You can see we are everyday loosing prominent memberships been deregistered
because of such spam of mails, this website is a social site which has
disclaimer, Iam requesting the webmasters/posters to scrutinize every mails
before been relayed to members at large otherwise the server may get full of
unsolicited mails,

Thanks for our usual cooperation, and let's grow together

Peter ODAMA


On 5 May 2010 10:47, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of
 yours which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not
 understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you
 have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand
 that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has
 only one side and we rest this topic.

 Christine

  --
 *From:* Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com

 *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

  Christine,
 I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate
 orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others.

 It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; *Once you
 sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at
 least one if not the fight as well.* I imagined that this view has long
 been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I
 magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or
 simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New
 and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo,
 Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or *whatever small one that is lingering in the minds.
 *Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to
 navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably
 move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be
 started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing
 line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the
 race.University or what ever

 The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea
 and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at
 the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or
 any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs,
 BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the
 horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your
 eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of
 referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road
 that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu,
 and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the
 eggs will brake!.

 Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to
 like it because every research embrassing society world over has never
 remained the same.

 Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any
 panic. Share your Research with us; Cos,  i need it and i know many others
 out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit
 if they put it to good use.

 Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
 (*Practicing Advocate with*
 *M/s Akile, Olok  Advocates*
 *Kampala)*
  --
  *From:* christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
 *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

   If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of
 power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum
 provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to
 people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How
 many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some
 of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas.

 I also agree that our people are generally lazy.

 Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government,
 we can do everything. We have a part to play and government has a part to
 play and both parties must come to a table for this to happen. I think this
 is what we are saying here. Construction and equipment of health centers is
 done by governement for example, 

Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

2010-05-05 Thread Bernard Vigga
Was this kind of language necessary?

Bernard





From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A


Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours 
which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not 
understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you 
have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand 
that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only 
one side and we rest this topic.

Christine





From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A


Christine,
I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated 
by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others.

It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale 
eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least 
one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held 
because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor 
facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil 
is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets 
are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or 
whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold 
or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a 
notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the 
irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never 
keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on 
the spikes to start the
 race.University or what ever

The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and 
the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter 
or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other 
faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and 
PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger 
your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you 
will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many 
more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to 
Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be 
realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!.

Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like 
it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the 
same.

Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. 
Share your Research with us; Cos,  i need it and i know many others out there 
need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put 
it to good use.

Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
(Practicing Advocate with
M/s Akile, Olok  Advocates
Kampala)




From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of power. 
Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum provide 
power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to people free or 
at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How many of these have 
been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some of these cows being 
given to a group of women in some of those areas.

I also agree that our people are generally lazy.

Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government, we 
can do everything. We have a part to play and government has a part to play and 
both parties must come to a table for this to happen. I think this is what we 
are saying here. Construction and equipment of health centers is done by 
governement for example, unless it is private and  but even then it is the 
government to give the permission for it to happen. We shall beat about the 
bush but we shall not run away from the truth.


 




From: francis azabo ajaxaz...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:04:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A


Nice one Emma,

I believe everything has a starting point. Even the best laid strategies can 
fail if implementation is bad. I believe when 

Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

2010-05-05 Thread Bernard Bonton Obaa
Dear Christine,

I like your courage to speak up your mind. It is good to have an outspoken
lady like you on this forum which is dominated by men.

I have two small problems with your latest posting. The first is the
not-so-nice language (e.g. you have a skewed mind). The second relates
to the fact that you have chosen to attack character (e.g. no action of
yours has worked) but not ideas. It would be more civilized if we kept our
cool and just focused our disagreements on ideas not the persons behind the
ideas. We need to be tolerant to opposing views even if such views offend
us. In other words, why don't we engage in intellectual debates instead of
personal attacks? This kind of vile  language and ping pong pisses off many
people, myself inclusive. If you feel strongly about something, you can send
a private email to whoever you are aggrieved with. That way, we won't know
you lost your cool.

Thanks,

Ben

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.comwrote:

  Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because *there is no action of
 yours which has also worked*. But my understanding is that* many of you do
 not understand the arguments here*, so it is of no importance to continue.
 If *you have a skewed mind* for what ever reason, *you fail to objectively
 understand* that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you
 that a coin has only one side and we rest this topic.

 Christine

  --
 *From:* Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com

 *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

  Christine,
 I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate
 orchestrated by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others.

 It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; *Once you
 sale eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at
 least one if not the fight as well.* I imagined that this view has long
 been held because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I
 magine poor facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or
 simply the soil is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New
 and better markets are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo,
 Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or *whatever small one that is lingering in the minds.
 *Even now days eggs are sold or carried in trays which makes it easy to
 navigate with them. Which even a notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably
 move alongside with a fight. Thus the irony that a fight should never be
 started by a vendor of eggs should never keeps us dreaming of the finishing
 line of the race yet we have not even put on the spikes to start the
 race.University or what ever

 The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea
 and the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at
 the alter or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or
 any other faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs,
 BYARUHANGAs and PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the
 horns! The stronger your bargain without the fear that you will loose your
 eggs the success you will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of
 referal status and many more will all come like the admirable tarmac road
 that runs through the park to Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu,
 and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be realised but not through fear that the
 eggs will brake!.

 Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to
 like it because every research embrassing society world over has never
 remained the same.

 Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any
 panic. Share your Research with us; Cos,  i need it and i know many others
 out there need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit
 if they put it to good use.

 Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
 (*Practicing Advocate with*
 *M/s Akile, Olok  Advocates*
 *Kampala)*
  --
  *From:* christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
 *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 *Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

   If I am right, milk is preserved fresh by using sustainable source of
 power. Was this also provided by the Bushenyi farmers? Will West Nile forum
 provide power for our people? How many of those cows have been given to
 people free or at subsidized prices in these regions we are proud of. How
 many of these have been given to West Nilers? Atleast recently I watch some
 of these cows being given to a group of women in some of those areas.

 I also agree that our people are generally lazy.

 Let us not deceive ourselves that without the good will of the government,
 we can do everything. We have a part to play and 

Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

2010-05-05 Thread Caleb Alaka
Ben,
 
I share your view. One time, I opined that we need to be tolerant of each 
others views. We can always disagree but lets emulate the House of Lords. Those 
guys are so gracious even when they disagree. Christine is a nice lady and open 
to learning. Hope she won't look at this as a problem. In our profession, when 
you loose a case, you get up, bow and thank the Judge or Magistrate. Can you 
imagine. Even when the Judge has erred and failed to appreciate the Law. You 
don't throw invectives and call the Judge names. 

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Bernard Bonton Obaa obaa...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Bernard Bonton Obaa obaa...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 9:39 AM



Dear Christine,
 
I like your courage to speak up your mind. It is good to have an outspoken lady 
like you on this forum which is dominated by men.
 
I have two small problems with your latest posting. The first is the 
not-so-nice language (e.g. you have a skewed mind). The second relates to the 
fact that you have chosen to attack character (e.g. no action of yours has 
worked) but not ideas. It would be more civilized if we kept our cool and 
just focused our disagreements on ideas not the persons behind the ideas. We 
need to be tolerant to opposing views even if such views offend us. In other 
words, why don't we engage in intellectual debates instead of personal 
attacks? This kind of vile  language and ping pong pisses off many people, 
myself inclusive. If you feel strongly about something, you can send a private 
email to whoever you are aggrieved with. That way, we won't know you lost your 
cool.
 
Thanks,
 
Ben


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com wrote:




Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours 
which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not 
understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you 
have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand 
that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only 
one side and we rest this topic.
 
Christine





From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com 

To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM 



Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A






Christine,
I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated 
by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others.

It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale 
eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least 
one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held 
because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor 
facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil 
is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets 
are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or 
whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold 
or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a 
notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the 
irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never 
keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on 
the spikes to start the
 race.University or what ever
 
The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and 
the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter 
or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other 
faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and 
PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger 
your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you 
will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many 
more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to 
Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be 
realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!.
 
Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like 
it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the 
same.
 
Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. 
Share your Research with us; Cos,  i need it and i know many others out there 
need it. And believe me whether pro or anti all alike will benefit if they put 
it to good use.
 
Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
(Practicing Advocate with
M/s Akile, Olok  Advocates
Kampala)



From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 

Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A

2010-05-05 Thread Sunday Akile
Christine,
 
I highly concur with the postings of Benard and Obaa. By the way did you read 
my posting between the lines or between the legs (excuse my language)! 
Well.be that as it may, I will never reply you in kind but only encourage 
you to never abandon the debate as you would like to. 
 
I strongly identified with your views and others alike of the state of 
affairs in our region. If there was anything i personaly stood for and still i 
am for adverse views such as yours being entertained on this forum. I stood by 
one called Majid Alemi (who is now history on this forum) when there were 
sugestions that he should be switched off for his kind of mind. I even warned 
lee when he began this debate whereas i identified with it. Please don't kill 
the goose that lays a golden egg.
 
Please reflect once again on my posting that has provocked the reaction from 
you and read it. You will find that i had another mirror of looking at our 
inherent fear from the perspective of a fight in the market by a vendor of 
eggs.That was the kind i was discouraging us from. I meant we should fight for 
our rights and get what we want. We should never harbour the fear of a vendor 
of eggs in the market that once he begins a fight he will loose his eggs thus 
he should not fight to defend his rights.
 
Further still, my posting with much respect served a reminder to our committee 
pursuing the establishment of a University at our doorstep. That for them to 
bargain successfully from the government in place, fear should be cast 
aside for them to get the best. Now where was my mind skewed because of 
this? In you previous posting didn't you talk about fear being our main 
problem? Where is our disagreement?
 
Please normalise normaly and continue with this debate. I share the pain and 
sentiments that you hold for the sake of our cause as a region.
 
Akile Sunday Igu Rocks
 




From: christine munduru cmund...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A


Dear Akile, you are right to be mesmarised because there is no action of yours 
which has also worked. But my understanding is that many of you do not 
understand the arguments here, so it is of no importance to continue. If you 
have a skewed mind for what ever reason, you fail to objectively understand 
that a coin has tow sides. For now let us believe like you that a coin has only 
one side and we rest this topic.

Christine





From: Sunday Akile akile...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Bushenyi vs West Nile Part A


Christine,
I am mesmarised by this consistent approach to this sort of debate orchestrated 
by Lee and ably being sustained by you and others.

It is unfortunate that most our own people share the stand that; Once you sale 
eggs in a market, then you should never begin a fight lest you lose at least 
one if not the fight as well. I imagined that this view has long been held 
because of the kind of our markets. Being in a sorry state.I magine poor 
facilities, items for sale being placed either on the grass or simply the soil 
is cleaned for the display.But a lot has changed now. New and better markets 
are built and they can be built Arua, Adjumani, Moyo, Koboko, Yumbe, Nebi or 
whatever small one that is lingering in the minds. Even now days eggs are sold 
or carried in trays which makes it easy to navigate with them. Which even a 
notoriopus trader of eggs can confortably move alongside with a fight. Thus the 
irony that a fight should never be started by a vendor of eggs should never 
keeps us dreaming of the finishing line of the race yet we have not even put on 
the spikes to start the
 race.University or what ever

The idea of the University at our door step is a super idea! but that idea and 
the successful bargain for it can only be through our ownselfs.Not at the alter 
or even the pulpit i believe our Rev.fathers, Imams and pastors or any other 
faithful will concur with me over this.Not the TODWONGs, BYARUHANGAs and 
PATAKIs of this world. But simply taking the bull by the horns! The stronger 
your bargain without the fear that you will loose your eggs the success you 
will see. The Universities, Big hospitals worthy of referal status and many 
more will all come like the admirable tarmac road that runs through the park to 
Arua save for Arua-Koboko-Moyo-Adjumani-Gulu, and Arua-Yumbe which is yet to be 
realised but not through fear that the eggs will brake!.

Lee, and Christine i find your work is well researched.There is cause to like 
it because every research embrassing society world over has never remained the 
same.

Lee, Christine and all those with the same mind i find no cause for any panic. 
Share your Research with us; Cos,  i