[WestNileNet] St. Thoma Plaza

[Caleb Alaka]

Dear Oguzu Lee,

This Idea is a good one. But one must go slow on matters pertaining to Church 
of Uganda Projects. Do you recall the Church project in Kampala in which the 
President gave 100 Milllion Shillings ten years ago. Well I am a 
protestant, but I believe lets concentrate on what we can achieve to transform 
lives of people from West Nile. This is without any prejudice. Have a nice day



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[WestNileNet] With immediate effect!

[Kiggundu Mukasa]

http://newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/732619

After the above story I was very pissed off. As they said the measures take 
immediate effect.

It meant I would need the IGPs permission to have diner at home tonight (Wife, 
Kids, me and house help is more than 5)
I would also need a permit to drop the kids at school if wife sits in car 
tomorrow morning.
I cannot go to a kids birthday party this saturday or even a baptism.  When I 
go shopping I have to count people in the store before I enter.
I cannot eat at Nalongo's (it's in her compound) during lunch if more than 3 of 
her clients arrive before me ... market day in Kamwokya is now canceled I am 
sure ... etc.

Then it occurred to me

Now I do not have to go home at night.

I can drink in a bar and end up with some hot woman and form a new music band 
and practice the whole night long (I will be doing the dancing in the band and 
her the singing  :-) )

In the morning I will tell the wife 

"Honey I could not come home as the IGP was still processing my permit as 
coming home would have made us an illegal gathering!"
"The line at CPS was HUGE I was there in line  the whole night!"
"I may come home tonight if IGP is kind"

If and when I need to go home I will say to the wife . "Please keep silent 
and don't make noise ... I am here illegally so can only stay a short while as 
I do not want you people arrested ."

This is GREAT!

OK  I now have no complaints about the law

Long live the IGP...

Kiggs


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Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 57

[ejikurobert]

Dear All,

Who can put it better than Jackson Avudria?

Thank you Jackson and let's all keep the momentum going.

Cheers

Ejiku
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:24:14 
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Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 57

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[WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 57

[JohnAJackson]

urrently
> working on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this plan,
> Wenreco will run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost of
> connecting the premises to the main lines. This will still require
> individuals to pay for poles depending on how far or near your premises is
> from the main line.
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> As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow.
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> Dear all,
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> As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high as
> compared to the rate at which the poles are sold.
>
> Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles,
> transport them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for installing
> them.
>
>
>
> The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in
> Arua
> can get us the installation cost the better.
>
> --
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RE: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

[Rogers Anguzu]

Dear All,

 

I think, we all need to appreciate this foundation has no full time
employees who do the day to day running of the affairs except volunteers who
have expertise in only certain areas and of course not everything.

 

Westnile Foundation is a collection of hundreds of sons, daughters and
friends of westnile with a diverse range of professional expertise. If
anyone feels they have something to offer, then they can speak up and drum
up support and lead the team in that direction of course with the blessing
and consent of the management of the foundation. 

For example in the recent past;

 

· We have had people with interest and expertise in marketing and
event organising who have started the West Nile Night which has become the
envy of many communities in Kampala – little do they know we are actually
quarrelling. 

· We have also had people with expertise and interest in Health Care
issues and have started the Science Café at Naalya Joint.

· There has also been the tree planting group

· Then there is the legal experts that have taken interest in the
BAT case in Arua

 

So my humble view would be if anyone has anything constructive to offer,
then they write up their proposal and we debate it here on the forum. Some
people might not take it but others will, and we will then see another
project like westnight , science café and others. We should not shoot down
other people’s projects, if we are not interested in that line of
activities, just start up another of your interest, you will be amazed at
how many people think alike and soon we will have westnile bustling with
activities that unite us to develop our land. Let’s not assume some people
here are paid to think up projects for us and the rest of us have to follow
and only complain when something goes wrong. We each have a responsibility
to think of something that we can do for WEST NILE!

 

I shall stress again, this is a forum of individuals of varied interests,
professional and social backgrounds, religious and political affiliations,
dialects, skin colour, etc.

The common denominator on this forum is West NILE – Here we are either sons
or daughters or friends of West NILE. All we need is respect for each other
and our diverse views and we will go a long way in developing our place.

 

Cheers,

 

Rogers 

 

From: Robert Ejiku [mailto:ejikurob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 20 September 2010 12:34
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

 

Dear All,

The level of insensitivity by some of the members on this net is becoming
very irritating. I have read two points of view on this net that have
stopped short of celebrating the deaths of the region's young lads during
the last westnile night. 

Death as it were will get us anywhere whether you associate with others or
not. But if anyone disputes this fact I happy for that death proof family.
We ordinary mortals never celebrate even the death of ardent enemies if any.
But this net has some immortals that think our community's pain should be
used to further alienate ourselves rather than unite us.

July 11th was not westnile night but we lost our very own. The Gaaga
accident in Nakasongola was not Westnile night but we lost our very own. So
can our immortals on this net stand up and be counted.

Our current arrangements to have a memorial service must go ahead and infact
rather than have people pay to enter the ngiht club, I would think we must
register at a particular desk in the club and sign against for better
accountability. While I trust that Pa Lui mgt can handle gate collections
effectively, its also good for the Foundation mgt to get names of
contributors to the cause. I further suggest that those who normally find it
difficult or wont be able to make it to the next night and yet wish to
contribute can do so through our treasurer or some other person selected for
this purpose.

Can we also have the critics take an active part within this community and
guide foundation mgt on some of their "great achievements" that we can
emulate and they had better be genuine and measurable not personal
achievements of huge mansions while your neighbours go hungry. 


I normally would not love to engage in acrimonious discussions but time and
again we see insensitive contributions and I think if silence means
appreciation of those points of view, we better speak up.



Ejiku  



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

Ismail,

 

Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think
that,  when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should
not only stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest
solutions or take lead in championing projects or issues at hand.

 

No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let’s get focused
and see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues
pertinent to westnile other than the net based debates and blaming effor

Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

[Gilbert Adibo]

Dear All,

I would want to believe that the posting by Ismail was an issue to do with
misarrangement of words in his bid to drive a point home.

Being personally touched by the tragedy that claimed the life of my
nephew  Imran Abdul and his close friends and associates, Ismail's
remarks drove me into deep thoughts of wondering why a mention of the tragic
accident was made at all! The context and presentation appear misplaced,
insinuating an occurrence by either intent or design or a reward for
organizing a socially unfit event.

Accidents shall always be accidents as rightly put by Bwana Jopo Ejiku and
we mortals have no timings for our departure. The Almighty who gives
life knows better when to call and we   mortals still grieving still need
your immotional comfort.

I still contend that it was a word misarrangement issue and any genuine
tirads towards the insensitivity should allow we participants on this
forum to check and re-check our postings before we click our send buttons.

Gilbert

On 20 September 2010 12:43,  wrote:

>  Ismail,
>
>
>
> Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think
> that,  when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should
> not only stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest
> solutions or take lead in championing projects or issues at hand.
>
>
>
> No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let’s get focused
> and see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues
> pertinent to westnile other than the net based debates and blaming efforts
> in place to bring people together.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Afema
>
>
>
> *From:* banduga ismail [mailto:bani...@yahoo.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
>
>
>
> Christine,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. We are only VERY VERY GOOD in organizing social
> gatherings. I don't know what our westnile community gets out of these
> westnile nights if its not the sad news od death of our own.
>
>
>
> It is high time this foundation moved from net based debate to actualities
> at home. And engaging our politicians now as you articulate is one of the
> ways. Hon. D'Ujanga was and is still the minister of state for energy if I
> remember well. How much engagement have we had with him in respect to power
> in Westnile?
>
> Those of us who debate these issues on net in most cases are either able to
> meet the obnoxious costs or can afford alternative means. We are not doing
> much for the ordinary person. Lets do more.
>
>
>
> Ismail
>
> 
>   --
>
> *From:* christine munduru 
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> *Sent:* Fri, 17 September, 2010 19:53:43
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
>
> Dear all,
>
> I think this has come timely. It is time for putting our agenda to those
> running after our votes. Voters need to have an agenda for the politicians
> who are now hungry for  votes. So what is our agenda as Westnile forum in
> this political season. These politicians must be put to task to debate
> issues that affect voters, not just come to tell us the usual lies and we
> give our votes! People must be told what government owes them  and they
> demand for it through their leaders and this is the right time. Development
> starts by having good leaders and if we dont have the right leaders this
> election period then we should forget about the development agenda that we
> are pushing. I remember when the issue of returning money came up, how
> everybody had somebody to blame. This is the time for weeding those in
> elective posts who are non-performers. And we need to task them with
> development issues to prove their worth.
>
>
>
> Many times we allow certain things to happen as if they are normal, buying
> poles individually means formalizing this rotten system, is this what we
> want to do? why dont we expose this and the responsible people come to
> explain. Now if you buy substandard items like George has rightly explained
> and your whole family is burnt in the house due to poor connection or
> substandard connection items, whom shall we blame. What about those who are
> unable to buy the poles but can afford to build their house and pay
> electricity bill.
>
> We have indentified a problem, I thought we could use a collective effort
> to put it to order instead of resorting to individual solutions. If Wenreco
> is to buy the poles, let them do so and if the issue is costs let us
> advocate collectively for reduction so that many people can be able to buy.
> Resorting to buy it individually from private firms or directly is not a
> long term solution according to me.
>
>
>
> We are not using the strength we have as westnile community to solve such
> issues. We are very good at organizing social gatherings but with such
> issues, it is a problem i dont kno

[WestNileNet] RE: UPDATE! Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

[afemar]

Dear ladies and Gentlemen,

The management of WNF is calling members for brief meeting this afternoon 
2:30pm at Choma restaurant centenary park to solicit support towards funeral 
arrangement of the Late Maj Tom Angutoko.

Those who are within Kampala and can spare time, lets meet and see what we can 
do together to support the family and those out of Kampala can send in their 
contribution to Caleb Alaka 0772401987 or Rogers Anguzu 0772465024 on through 
Mobile money.

Regards,
Robert

From: Robert Afema
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:03 AM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: UPDATE! Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

Good morning All,

UPDATE:

This is to let you all know that, there will be a funeral mass today Monday 
20TH Sept 2010 at Bina catholic church Kitintale at 4pm. Body will thereafter 
spend the night at the deceased home in Kitintale circular road, and leaves for 
Arua tomorrow Tuesday 21st Sept 2010 and burial takes place on Thursday.

For more details regarding direction, support and other, please contact Toko on 
0772867812.

May his soul rest in eternal peace.


Regards,

Robert

From: Alemi Kenyi [mailto:alke...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:40 PM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: [WestNileNet] Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

Comrades,

I have just heard that Maj Tom Angutoko has passed on today in Mulago Hospital. 
My condolences to the family. He was a role model to many of us who grew up in 
Ediofe. May the almighty confort the family during this difficult times through 
our prayers.

The Lord gives and takes. May his soul rest in eternal Peace Amen.

Alemi

--- On Sat, 18/9/10, Gilbert Adibo  wrote:

From: Gilbert Adibo 
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: St Thomas Plaza
To: ejikurob...@gmail.com, "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 

Date: Saturday, 18 September, 2010, 11:11
Hi All,

Fantastic to see structures comparable to those I one time dealt in while 
working in the Real Estate sector not long ago in Dubai mushrooming in Arua.

Its no doubt these structures have a changing impact on the Skys of Arua, 
albeit to a few metres high.

Just wondering if other infrastructure issues like such as road netwroks, water 
& Sew connectivity & associated facilities, electricity concerns plus many more 
are being looked into in order to make these facilities VERY user friendly and 
ultimate sustain and probably increase there value as our peoples'tastes change 
to using them?

Are those clamouring for Votes seeing what is happening in the absence of 
retrospectively long central government good will for development in this 
region??

I do not doubt my people's resilience though to wade through difficult times. I 
think issues of supportive infrastructure play a central role before we clutter 
the mall City with very good structures such KKT Business centre and then turn 
to address these salient infrastructure issues later on.

Can those in charge borrow a leave from Accra, Dodoma, Abuja and probably Dubai?

Over WNF.

Gilbert



On 18 September 2010 11:52, 
http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ejikurob...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
Lee,

Could you detail the support you need and what this plaza is for us who are in 
Arua once six months.

Ejiku
S e n t   f r o m   m y   B l a c k B e r r y (r)   s m a r t p h o n e

-Original Message-
From: oguzu lee 
http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oguzu...@yahoo.com>>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:53:07
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West 
Nilehttp://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net>>
Reply-To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net>>
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Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

[Robert Ejiku]

Dear All,

The level of insensitivity by some of the members on this net is becoming
very irritating. I have read two points of view on this net that have
stopped short of celebrating the deaths of the region's young lads during
the last westnile night.

Death as it were will get us anywhere whether you associate with others or
not. But if anyone disputes this fact I happy for that death proof family.
We ordinary mortals never celebrate even the death of ardent enemies if any.
But this net has some immortals that think our community's pain should be
used to further alienate ourselves rather than unite us.

July 11th was not westnile night but we lost our very own. The Gaaga
accident in Nakasongola was not Westnile night but we lost our very own. So
can our immortals on this net stand up and be counted.

Our current arrangements to have a memorial service must go ahead and infact
rather than have people pay to enter the ngiht club, I would think we must
register at a particular desk in the club and sign against for better
accountability. While I trust that Pa Lui mgt can handle gate collections
effectively, its also good for the Foundation mgt to get names of
contributors to the cause. I further suggest that those who normally find it
difficult or wont be able to make it to the next night and yet wish to
contribute can do so through our treasurer or some other person selected for
this purpose.

Can we also have the critics take an active part within this community and
guide foundation mgt on some of their "great achievements" that we can
emulate and they had better be genuine and measurable not personal
achievements of huge mansions while your neighbours go hungry.


I normally would not love to engage in acrimonious discussions but time and
again we see insensitive contributions and I think if silence means
appreciation of those points of view, we better speak up.



Ejiku


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

>  Ismail,
>
>
>
> Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think
> that,  when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should
> not only stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest
> solutions or take lead in championing projects or issues at hand.
>
>
>
> No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let’s get focused
> and see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues
> pertinent to westnile other than the net based debates and blaming efforts
> in place to bring people together.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Afema
>
>
>
> *From:* banduga ismail [mailto:bani...@yahoo.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
>
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
>
>
>
> Christine,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. We are only VERY VERY GOOD in organizing social
> gatherings. I don't know what our westnile community gets out of these
> westnile nights if its not the sad news od death of our own.
>
>
>
> It is high time this foundation moved from net based debate to actualities
> at home. And engaging our politicians now as you articulate is one of the
> ways. Hon. D'Ujanga was and is still the minister of state for energy if I
> remember well. How much engagement have we had with him in respect to power
> in Westnile?
>
> Those of us who debate these issues on net in most cases are either able to
> meet the obnoxious costs or can afford alternative means. We are not doing
> much for the ordinary person. Lets do more.
>
>
>
> Ismail
>
> 
>   --
>
> *From:* christine munduru 
>
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> *Sent:* Fri, 17 September, 2010 19:53:43
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
>
> Dear all,
>
> I think this has come timely. It is time for putting our agenda to those
> running after our votes. Voters need to have an agenda for the politicians
> who are now hungry for  votes. So what is our agenda as Westnile forum in
> this political season. These politicians must be put to task to debate
> issues that affect voters, not just come to tell us the usual lies and we
> give our votes! People must be told what government owes them  and they
> demand for it through their leaders and this is the right time. Development
> starts by having good leaders and if we dont have the right leaders this
> election period then we should forget about the development agenda that we
> are pushing. I remember when the issue of returning money came up, how
> everybody had somebody to blame. This is the time for weeding those in
> elective posts who are non-performers. And we need to task them with
> development issues to prove their worth.
>
>
>
> Many times we allow certain things to happen as if they are normal, buying
> poles individually means formalizing this rotten system, is this what we
> want to do? why dont we expose this and the responsible people come to
> explain. No

RE: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

[afemar]

Ismail,

Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think that,  
when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should not only 
stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest solutions or take 
lead in championing projects or issues at hand.

No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let's get focused and 
see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues pertinent to 
westnile other than the net based debates and blaming efforts in place to bring 
people together.


Regards,

Afema

From: banduga ismail [mailto:bani...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles

Christine,

You are absolutely right. We are only VERY VERY GOOD in organizing social 
gatherings. I don't know what our westnile community gets out of these westnile 
nights if its not the sad news od death of our own.

It is high time this foundation moved from net based debate to actualities at 
home. And engaging our politicians now as you articulate is one of the ways. 
Hon. D'Ujanga was and is still the minister of state for energy if I remember 
well. How much engagement have we had with him in respect to power in Westnile?
Those of us who debate these issues on net in most cases are either able to 
meet the obnoxious costs or can afford alternative means. We are not doing much 
for the ordinary person. Lets do more.

Ismail


From: christine munduru 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 19:53:43
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
Dear all,
I think this has come timely. It is time for putting our agenda to those 
running after our votes. Voters need to have an agenda for the politicians who 
are now hungry for  votes. So what is our agenda as Westnile forum in this 
political season. These politicians must be put to task to debate issues that 
affect voters, not just come to tell us the usual lies and we give our votes! 
People must be told what government owes them  and they demand for it through 
their leaders and this is the right time. Development starts by having good 
leaders and if we dont have the right leaders this election period then we 
should forget about the development agenda that we are pushing. I remember when 
the issue of returning money came up, how everybody had somebody to blame. This 
is the time for weeding those in elective posts who are non-performers. And we 
need to task them with development issues to prove their worth.

Many times we allow certain things to happen as if they are normal, buying 
poles individually means formalizing this rotten system, is this what we want 
to do? why dont we expose this and the responsible people come to explain. Now 
if you buy substandard items like George has rightly explained and your whole 
family is burnt in the house due to poor connection or substandard connection 
items, whom shall we blame. What about those who are unable to buy the poles 
but can afford to build their house and pay electricity bill.
We have indentified a problem, I thought we could use a collective effort to 
put it to order instead of resorting to individual solutions. If Wenreco is to 
buy the poles, let them do so and if the issue is costs let us advocate 
collectively for reduction so that many people can be able to buy. Resorting to 
buy it individually from private firms or directly is not a long term solution 
according to me.

We are not using the strength we have as westnile community to solve such 
issues. We are very good at organizing social gatherings but with such issues, 
it is a problem i dont know why but it is really very unfortunate.

Christine


From: George Afi Obitre-Gama 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:37:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles
All,

I think this is quite misleading. Yes, you can individually acquire the poles 
and run the wires but at what cost? The poles to be acquired must be of a 
certain minimum standard with the correct specifications i.e they must be well 
treated using both copper sulphate immersion and creosote treatment. I know 
only one treatment plant in Kampala. Secondly, the wires(read cables) must be 
of a certain minimum standard too - i.e the type of material, diameter etc. All 
these must be got from Kampala and are quite costly - may be importation from 
India may be cheaper! Transportation logistics of these items to West Nile is 
also another expensive affair. All in all, its a costly affair! Thats why we 
have to ask the government to come in by way of provision of subsidies etc. 
Otherwise, if you are Mike Ezra, its possible.


From: banduga ismail 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 8

[WestNileNet] UPDATE! Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

[afemar]

Good morning All,

UPDATE:

This is to let you all know that, there will be a funeral mass today Monday 
20TH Sept 2010 at Bina catholic church Kitintale at 4pm. Body will thereafter 
spend the night at the deceased home in Kitintale circular road, and leaves for 
Arua tomorrow Tuesday 21st Sept 2010 and burial takes place on Thursday.

For more details regarding direction, support and other, please contact Toko on 
0772867812.

May his soul rest in eternal peace.


Regards,

Robert

From: Alemi Kenyi [mailto:alke...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:40 PM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: [WestNileNet] Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

Comrades,

I have just heard that Maj Tom Angutoko has passed on today in Mulago Hospital. 
My condolences to the family. He was a role model to many of us who grew up in 
Ediofe. May the almighty confort the family during this difficult times through 
our prayers.

The Lord gives and takes. May his soul rest in eternal Peace Amen.

Alemi

--- On Sat, 18/9/10, Gilbert Adibo  wrote:

From: Gilbert Adibo 
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: St Thomas Plaza
To: ejikurob...@gmail.com, "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 

Date: Saturday, 18 September, 2010, 11:11
Hi All,

Fantastic to see structures comparable to those I one time dealt in while 
working in the Real Estate sector not long ago in Dubai mushrooming in Arua.

Its no doubt these structures have a changing impact on the Skys of Arua, 
albeit to a few metres high.

Just wondering if other infrastructure issues like such as road netwroks, water 
& Sew connectivity & associated facilities, electricity concerns plus many more 
are being looked into in order to make these facilities VERY user friendly and 
ultimate sustain and probably increase there value as our peoples'tastes change 
to using them?

Are those clamouring for Votes seeing what is happening in the absence of 
retrospectively long central government good will for development in this 
region??

I do not doubt my people's resilience though to wade through difficult times. I 
think issues of supportive infrastructure play a central role before we clutter 
the mall City with very good structures such KKT Business centre and then turn 
to address these salient infrastructure issues later on.

Can those in charge borrow a leave from Accra, Dodoma, Abuja and probably Dubai?

Over WNF.

Gilbert



On 18 September 2010 11:52, 
http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ejikurob...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
Lee,

Could you detail the support you need and what this plaza is for us who are in 
Arua once six months.

Ejiku
S e n t   f r o m   m y   B l a c k B e r r y (r)   s m a r t p h o n e

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:53:07
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Nilehttp://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net>>
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Re: [WestNileNet] Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on

[Godfrey Mundua]

Sad indeed. He has been a model and guardian to many.
May his soul rest in eternal Peace.
Condolences to the beavered family most especially the children with whom
some of us have shared and interacted quite often in life.
Godfrey Mundua

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kadara Kursum wrote:

> Condolence to all and May he rest in peace.
>
> Kadara Kursum Akujo
>
>  --
> *From:* tabua butagira 
>
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> *Sent:* Sat, 18 September, 2010 14:51:21
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on
>
>   My very, very sincere condolences!!! RIP.
>
> --- On *Sat, 9/18/10, Alemi Kenyi * wrote:
>
>
> From: Alemi Kenyi 
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Maj Tom Angutoko Passes on
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
> Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 5:39 AM
>
>Comrades,
>
> I have just heard that Maj Tom Angutoko has passed on today in Mulago
> Hospital. My condolences to the family. He was a role model to many of us
> who grew up in Ediofe. May the almighty confort the family during this
> difficult times through our prayers.
>
> The Lord gives and takes. May his soul rest in eternal Peace Amen.
>
> Alemi
>
> --- On *Sat, 18/9/10, Gilbert Adibo * wrote:
>
>
> From: Gilbert Adibo 
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: St Thomas Plaza
> To: ejikurob...@gmail.com, "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <
> westnilenet@kym.net>
> Date: Saturday, 18 September, 2010, 11:11
>
>  Hi All,
>
> Fantastic to see structures comparable to those I one time dealt in while
> working in the Real Estate sector not long ago in Dubai mushrooming in Arua.
>
> Its no doubt these structures have a changing impact on the Skys of Arua,
> albeit to a few metres high.
>
> Just wondering if other infrastructure issues like such as road netwroks,
> water & Sew connectivity & associated facilities, electricity concerns plus
> many more are being looked into in order to make these facilities VERY user
> friendly and ultimate sustain and probably increase there value as our
> peoples'tastes change to using them?
>
> Are those clamouring for Votes seeing what is happening in the absence of
> retrospectively long central government good will for development in this
> region??
>
> I do not doubt my people's resilience though to wade through difficult
> times. I think issues of supportive infrastructure play a central role
> before we clutter the mall City with very good structures such KKT Business
> centre and then turn to address these salient infrastructure issues later
> on.
>
> Can those in charge borrow a leave from Accra, Dodoma, Abuja and probably
> Dubai?
>
> Over WNF.
>
> Gilbert
>
>
>
> On 18 September 2010 11:52, 
> http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ejikurob...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> Could you detail the support you need and what this plaza is for us who are
> in Arua once six months.
>
> Ejiku
> S e n t   f r o m   m y   B l a c k B e r r y ®   s m a r t p h o n e
>
> -Original Message-
> From: oguzu lee 
> http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oguzu...@yahoo.com>
> >
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:53:07
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West 
> Nilehttp://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net>
> >
> Reply-To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> http://uk.mc250.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnile...@kym.net>
> >
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: St Thomas Plaza
>
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