Dear All, I would want to believe that the posting by Ismail was an issue to do with misarrangement of words in his bid to drive a point home.
Being personally touched by the tragedy that claimed the life of my nephew Imran Abdul and his close friends and associates, Ismail's remarks drove me into deep thoughts of wondering why a mention of the tragic accident was made at all! The context and presentation appear misplaced, insinuating an occurrence by either intent or design or a reward for organizing a socially unfit event. Accidents shall always be accidents as rightly put by Bwana Jopo Ejiku and we mortals have no timings for our departure. The Almighty who gives life knows better when to call and we mortals still grieving still need your immotional comfort. I still contend that it was a word misarrangement issue and any genuine tirads towards the insensitivity should allow we participants on this forum to check and re-check our postings before we click our send buttons. Gilbert On 20 September 2010 12:43, <afe...@mtn.co.ug> wrote: > Ismail, > > > > Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think > that, when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should > not only stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest > solutions or take lead in championing projects or issues at hand. > > > > No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let’s get focused > and see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues > pertinent to westnile other than the net based debates and blaming efforts > in place to bring people together. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Afema > > > > *From:* banduga ismail [mailto:bani...@yahoo.co.uk] > *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > > Christine, > > > > You are absolutely right. We are only VERY VERY GOOD in organizing social > gatherings. I don't know what our westnile community gets out of these > westnile nights if its not the sad news od death of our own. > > > > It is high time this foundation moved from net based debate to actualities > at home. And engaging our politicians now as you articulate is one of the > ways. Hon. D'Ujanga was and is still the minister of state for energy if I > remember well. How much engagement have we had with him in respect to power > in Westnile? > > Those of us who debate these issues on net in most cases are either able to > meet the obnoxious costs or can afford alternative means. We are not doing > much for the ordinary person. Lets do more. > > > > Ismail > > ---------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > *From:* christine munduru <cmund...@yahoo.com> > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > *Sent:* Fri, 17 September, 2010 19:53:43 > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear all, > > I think this has come timely. It is time for putting our agenda to those > running after our votes. Voters need to have an agenda for the politicians > who are now hungry for votes. So what is our agenda as Westnile forum in > this political season. These politicians must be put to task to debate > issues that affect voters, not just come to tell us the usual lies and we > give our votes! People must be told what government owes them and they > demand for it through their leaders and this is the right time. Development > starts by having good leaders and if we dont have the right leaders this > election period then we should forget about the development agenda that we > are pushing. I remember when the issue of returning money came up, how > everybody had somebody to blame. This is the time for weeding those in > elective posts who are non-performers. And we need to task them with > development issues to prove their worth. > > > > Many times we allow certain things to happen as if they are normal, buying > poles individually means formalizing this rotten system, is this what we > want to do? why dont we expose this and the responsible people come to > explain. Now if you buy substandard items like George has rightly explained > and your whole family is burnt in the house due to poor connection or > substandard connection items, whom shall we blame. What about those who are > unable to buy the poles but can afford to build their house and pay > electricity bill. > > We have indentified a problem, I thought we could use a collective effort > to put it to order instead of resorting to individual solutions. If Wenreco > is to buy the poles, let them do so and if the issue is costs let us > advocate collectively for reduction so that many people can be able to buy. > Resorting to buy it individually from private firms or directly is not a > long term solution according to me. > > > > We are not using the strength we have as westnile community to solve such > issues. We are very good at organizing social gatherings but with such > issues, it is a problem i dont know why but it is really very unfortunate. > > > > Christine > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* George Afi Obitre-Gama <gobi...@yahoo.com> > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > *Sent:* Thu, September 16, 2010 11:37:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > All, > > > > I think this is quite misleading. Yes, you can individually acquire the > poles and run the wires but at what cost? The poles to be acquired must be > of a certain minimum standard with the correct specifications i.e they must > be well treated using both copper sulphate immersion and creosote treatment. > I know only one treatment plant in Kampala. Secondly, the wires(read cables) > must be of a certain minimum standard too - i.e the type of material, > diameter etc. All these must be got from Kampala and are quite costly - may > be importation from India may be cheaper! Transportation logistics of these > items to West Nile is also another expensive affair. All in all, its a > costly affair! Thats why we have to ask the government to come in by way of > provision of subsidies etc. Otherwise, if you are Mike Ezra, its possible. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > *Sent:* Thu, September 16, 2010 8:40:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear All, > > > > I have just talked to a staff (one of the team leaders) of Wenreco in > Arua about this. According to him, if one obtains poles privately, then you > will need to engage a private individual or firm to fix the poles and run > the line (wires). However, this private firm or individual needs to do this > with the full knowledge of Wenreco i.e. fill in some forms at Wenreco > offices. Wenreco will then come to connect your premises to the power line > at a cost of 246,400 UGX. This cost is basically the cost of the meter box. > > > > He also says there is the power extension plan that they are currently > working on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this plan, > Wenreco will run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost of > connecting the premises to the main lines. This will still require > individuals to pay for poles depending on how far or near your premises is > from the main line. > > > > As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow. > > > > Ismail > > -------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > *r From:* Patrick Anguti <pangu...@gmail.com> > *To:* westnilenet@kym.net > *Sent:* Wed, 15 September, 2010 19:03:56 > *Subject:* [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear all, > > > > As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high as > compared to the rate at which the poles are sold. > > Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles, > transport them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for installing > them. > > > > The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in > Arua can get us the installation cost the better. > > -- > > Patrick Anguti > > Forest Officer > > Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > > P O Box 7390, kampala > > Tel: +256-312-330300 > > Fax: +256-414-255600 > > Mob: +256-772-929633 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see > http://www.mtn.co.ug/email/Email-disclaimer.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > _______________________________________________ > >
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