Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Hello Richard, Don't lose hope! Keep hope alive because it is the only thing that can sustain you in the most hopeless situation, man! I share your frustration and the frustration of many others on this forum for the endless talks without actions. Around 2009/20120 when the forum was taking shape there was a vigorous debate about who we are and purpose of our existence. Many constructive suggestions were made. Some people wanted this forum to be a development forum and others wanted it to just be a network forum. In fact the most popular name that emerged after a vote was West Nile Development Forum, if I remember well, but it seems the leadership was uncomfortable with that and the vote was ignored and more discussions went on until we became "Westnile Net". The Bible says "watch your tongue for in it lies the power of destruction or life." We don't pick names at random because a name is a signifier. They signify the identity of the object named. You will always be what you call yourself because your name means you. It is therefore not a surprise that West Nile Net is very active in virtual interaction on the net but completely inactive in development activities on ground. There is nothing in our existential identity that connects us to grass root activities so far. People should not expect too much from us in this forum because we doing well in what we can do best "engage each other on the net." Kindly understand our situation, ladies and gentlemen! We are not actually doing badly in as far as our core identity and mission is concerned. We can support others in doing what you are accusing us of not doing which may technically be within our mandate as West Nile Net. (NB. The views expressed in this piece are not necessarily those of its founders or its leadership and they should not cause unnecessary disaffection.) Thanks. Sam Andema --- On Wed, 15/5/13, Okuti Richard wrote: From: Okuti Richard Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" Date: Wednesday, 15 May, 2013, 16:09 Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. "Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come." Already West Nilers are fewer than those from "Across the Nile" at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities "whose papers need explanations". They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: "Winfred Adukule" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AMWinnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This sho
[WestNileNet] Walking the talk to Muni University
Dear Colleagues, It is true that quite a lot has been discussed and it is like time for implementation is long overdue. I can sense that some people are losing hope and might, hold back, in future discussion. I wish to take sides: I agree that we need to do something now, else we shall never. On the other hand, West Nile, just like other regions needs economic revival. I hear about gone days (between 1960 - 1980) during which hard work was proven. Custodians of our taxes were trustworthy. They, to a larger extent, cared for all the civil servants. Consequently, security, health, education, and many other sectors of productivity took better shape. Which was why a pupil sitting for PLE in Arua public or Moyo Girls would choose and make it to either Gayaza or Sir Samuel Baker (later known as Pongdwongo). There was no need for a parent to go to an HM to 'beg' for vacancy. You just wait for your acceptance letter by the postal services. Today the sort of system of governance we are in is tending towards capitalism. I have no problem with what one does to earn a living; as long as it is morally acceptable; we should encourage our people to work as really they are hard working. Once upon a time, most Ma'di people sniggered the lugbara communities who migrated and settled among them. Generally the Lugbara women took to business of selling food and other merchandises. While most Ma'di women engaged in the 'brewery industries' producing pkhete, wiri, nguli, etc. The Ma'di woman brewing and earning a living from it, consoled herself that she was better than a 'Lubwari zi' living by doing some businesses (selling tea, sumbusa, mandazi etc). And I think the Lugbara women on their part had good reasons not to take on the 'industry' of the Ma'di women. Each was right and at the same time wrong. Today the trend seems to be duplicating itself across regions: the majority of the private security guards come from either West Nile, Northern region or Lango and Teso sub regions. Most of the workers in the sugar and tea plantations come from the same areas. I love my people and value what they do to honestly earn their living. My problem is in the situation where the hard-earned money does not get re-invested. Our people are very innovative and look forward to a better future. This was exhibited in coming up with CUCUA, and ERO. While the Lugbara people had both Ero and Cucua, the Ma'di people only depended on ero. In capitalism, consideration should be made for continued investments, not consuming profits. Check how you spend your money!!! The point I am making is that the advent of capitalism comes with challenges and the prices have to be paid. We need either to improve on our existing economic activities, or phase out the obsolete ones and adopt rather newer alternatives. Perceptions have to change and then take advantage of every opportunity to etch out economic values which then can be translated in to real cash. Without economic empowerment, the sour, otherwise bitter side of life will be the only alternative. This includes journey to Muni University. It is near us, but going there requires money. Not just money to enter University, but money to go through pre-primary education, primary, and secondary education. Some of you know what I am taking about. The current form of UPE will never lay a good foundation in our children for competitive tertiary institution. Most of the schools we have in West Nile are depending the already failing UPE - misplaced hope. What the people in this forum could do is to use the governance system already in place to suggest, but not authorise changes. The system is like a pyramid - the rule is by the top not bottom. The private sector thrives better that the public. That is why we need investors. A teacher hired to work in a private school in most cases deliver; however, those on the government pay roll will not deliver - the assumption is that all graduated from EREPI TTC . In conclusion, approach should be economic empowerment so that we can afford to send our children to schools were teachers are well motivated. Back to you. Sebastian DISCLAIMER: This message is private and confidential. If you have received this message in error please notify us and remove it from your system. Any views and opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of MRC/UVRI Uganda Research Unit on AIDS. ___ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including at
Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 57, Issue 34
Dear John I am so impressed by your comment. We have PhD holders in this forum and a lot of people with world class analytical skills of developmental issues. In fact I have listed 6 of those people whose intellectual aptitude in scrutinising issues in this forum surpasses so many that I created a special folder on my computer for all the extraordinary discussions they opine on the forum. Just like you, I am waiting with my fingers crossed to see how many of those who are eligible will take up positions in Muni University as lecturers. Moses Adroma Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 05:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John Anguyo To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Message-ID: <1368621135.50220.yahoomail...@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Richard you have said my mind, many people in the net talk good ideas as analyse issues here in the net with the interlectual expertise they individually have but fail to deliver. Just imagine if these ideas were a woman the community has identified to be pregnant and after nine months this woman doesnt bring forth a child. .. I think many of us lack a spirit of sacrifice, because they think of their jobs and no one is willing to pull his/her resources to employ the sons and daughters of West Nile who could walk the many talks they offer. I am waiting to see? one person living his or her paying job to come down on ground to help change the face of West Nile educationally. ? John Anguyo ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 57, Issue 34 ***___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Mr. Okuti, I see your point and frustrations. When do we talk about performance in our region?? When PLE, UCE and UACE results are out. And who do we always blame for poor performance?? TEACHERS!! We are that simple and petty. FM radios are silent or lukewarm about education in our region. Wait for next year when results of this year will be released. Everybody is withdrawn.. let me make that general statement. I share your frustrations. May be u are challenging all of us to post here what we are doing on ground. we need pragmatists not idealists to transform our region. Some of the primary schools we went cannot give a single first grade. What have we done? I think those are the issues you are trying to raise. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255 --- On Wed, 5/15/13, Okuti Richard wrote: From: Okuti Richard Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013, 5:09 AM Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. "Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come." Already West Nilers are fewer than those from "Across the Nile" at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities "whose papers need explanations". They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: "Winfred Adukule" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AMWinnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Winfred Adukule To: Patrick Ezaga ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga,Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need!your thoughts please... Regards,Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga wrote:Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net ha
Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Richard you have said my mind, many people in the net talk good ideas as analyse issues here in the net with the interlectual expertise they individually have but fail to deliver. Just imagine if these ideas were a woman the community has identified to be pregnant and after nine months this woman doesnt bring forth a child. .. I think many of us lack a spirit of sacrifice, because they think of their jobs and no one is willing to pull his/her resources to employ the sons and daughters of West Nile who could walk the many talks they offer. I am waiting to see one person living his or her paying job to come down on ground to help change the face of West Nile educationally. John Anguyo From: Okuti Richard To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. "Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years tocome."Already West Nilers are fewer than those from "Across the Nile" at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities "whose papers need explanations". They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: "Winfred Adukule" , "AVirtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From:Winfred Adukule To: Patrick Ezaga ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga, Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards, Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga wrote: Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net have att
Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. "Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come." Already West Nilers are fewer than those from "Across the Nile" at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities "whose papers need explanations". They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: "Winfred Adukule" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” _ From: Winfred Adukule To: Patrick Ezaga ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga, Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards, Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga wrote: Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net have attended the WNF meetings in person, let alone send an apology for absence? The net has well over 300 people (I guess) but it would be a miracle to get 20 people in attendance at meetings (of course excluding members in the diaspora). Just wondering, Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” _ From: Adiga Godi To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education Dear all, Have you heard people say " talking is cheap" ? That is what we do in this forum. The problem will go away by talking it away on the internet. God PLEASE, BLESS US or GIVE US WISDOM TO HELP OURSELVES! We should not raise hope when we can not DELIVER. I hope next year all will be OK. Thank you all. Adiga --- On Thu, 5/9/
[WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. "Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come." Already West Nilers are fewer than those from "Across the Nile" at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities "whose papers need explanations". They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: "Winfred Adukule" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Winfred Adukule To: Patrick Ezaga ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga,Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards,Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga wrote: Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net have attended the WNF meetings in person, let alone send an apology for absence? The net has well over 300 people (I guess) but it would be a miracle to get 20 people in attendance at meetings (of course excluding members in the diaspora). Just wondering, Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 "Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Adiga Godi To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education Dear all, Have you heard people say " talking is cheap" ? That is what we do in this forum. The problem will go away by talking it away on the internet. God PLEASE, BLESS US or GIVE US WISDOM TO HELP OURSELVES! We should not raise hope when we can not DELIVER. I hope next year all will be OK. Thank you all. Adiga --- On Thu, 5/9/13, Vasco Oguzua wrote: From: Vasco Oguzua Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 3:22 PM Winnie, Good question about the education project. I can tell that you were not in the discussions of such a similar education project sometime back in 2009 or 2010. The reactionary mode we discuss these issues on the forum and the issue quickly disappears after such emotional discussions is not new in this forum. Since that time when the issue came up was there any organized arrangements to carry forward the issue? If I am not mistaken, you were one of the volunteers who suggested your name to help in the committee. Were there any committee meetings since then? We have a serious problem in volunteering to help ourselves, inspite of some of the emotional arguments we make when such serious issues such the education issues comes aroundI still remember what M