Re: [WestNileNet] Lugbara
Kiggundu, you have taken me to class but don't expect school fees from me otherwise I will drop out from your school. The things you have talked about are the suggestions I would put to the language academy if we had one. I think I talked about accents and double consonants for certain words. These would be taught thoroughly from primary one. Kiggundu, the problem is we are theoretical. These ideas will remain here online. There is no one to mobilize all the different Lugbara speaking dialects together. An Aringa feels different from the rest. The Teregian the same. So are Ayivu, Maracha, Vurra, Ma'di Rigbo, Madi Indri ASEA --- On Tue, 6/4/13, Kiggundu Mukasa kiggu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kiggundu Mukasa kiggu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Lugbara To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 6:47 AM Basil,English is also still grappling with this (but in a very small way) for example My birthday PRESENT to your son was a toy carI would like to PRESENT my wifeI never plan, i live in the PRESENT moment. Thus giving the sentence Would you like to present the present in the present? :-) But it happens a lot more in Lugbara I know :-) Rose and Basil,Why not propose use a diacritic mark above (and or below letters) to in Lugbara when writing (kind of like the Irish, Danish, Spanish, French etc. etc. do). So you could keep the same spelling of ORI but each accent would tell you which letter to make longer or deeper or sharper, shorter etc. etc..So you cram the accents once, and then depending on where it is on any letter of a word you know how to pronounce itOtherwise you would have to cram 8 spellings of ORI and then 5 spellings of ALETI etc. etc. etc. So giving the French example The accent mark over this letteré is an acute accent. The accent mark over this letter è is a grave accent. The accent mark over this letter ê is a circumflex accent. The accent mark over this letterë is a dieresis accent Read more about Diacritic marks here;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic Kiggs On Jun 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Aseamque Basilorum basilele2...@yahoo.com wrote: Rose Onama, you have raised serious issues about Lugbara language. This would not be an issue at all if we had a functional orthography. They would have helped us with accents and how to write certain things differently, for example, ORI meaning snake could be written as ORII and ORI (fear) as ORRI and others with accents. This would be seriously taught from primary one. Anyone wanting to write in Lugbara would use that approved or standardized language. Am not a language expert but I would be willing to sit on such a committee. It is not true that Lugbara language has limited vocabulary. Take for example which language do you know has 6 different words for the same thing as below; ROAD in Lugbara can be 1. nzila 2. sika 3. geriko 4. gboko In fact I have forgotten the other two. Guys something must be done about the language orthography ASEA BASIL --- On Mon, 6/3/13, Rose Onama kozor...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Rose Onama kozor...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Lugbara To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, June 3, 2013, 6:35 PM PS. OGU..THIEF; OYA MONEKY-- LUGBARA COMES FROM MADI From: Bahemuka John Toa bahemukaj...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:01 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] Lugbara LUGBARA LANGUAGE IS THE EASIEST ON EARTH One word can have more than one meanings. Let me give you examples of 8 words having 34 meanings. A) ORI. 1.ORI can mean Fear. 2. ORI can mean Seed. 3. ORI can mean Lice. 4. ORI can mean Snake. 5. ORI can mean Gold. 6. ORI can mean Sweat. 7. ORI can mean Origin. 8. ORI can mean to slowly Cool. B). ALETI. 9. ALETI can mean i want to produce. 10. ALETI can mean we want to produce. 11. ALETI can mean we want Cow. 12. ALETI can mean i want to strangle. 13. ALETI requesting for Lips (Kiss). C). OGU. 14. OGU can mean Stealing. 15. OGU can mean Liver. 16. OGU can mean Waist. D). ETI. 17. ETI can mean Buttocks. 18. ETI can refer to giving birth . 19. ETI can be used to express extreme smartness. 20. ETI can mean Tamarine. E). NGA. 22. NGA can mean Flying. 23. NGA can mean Germination. 24. NGA can be used to mean erection. 25. NGA can mean waking. 26. NGA can mean Where. F). DRI. 27. DRI can mean Head. 28. When you mention DRI twice to like DRIDRI it means Hot. 29. DRI Can mean Hand. G). OMBE 30. OMBE can mean Neck. 31. OMBE can mean Tying. 32. OMBE can mean licking. H). OYO. 33. OYO can mean Monkey. 34. OYO can mean Swear/ Vow. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments
[WestNileNet] Lugbara
Rose Onama, you have raised serious issues about Lugbara language. This would not be an issue at all if we had a functional orthography. They would have helped us with accents and how to write certain things differently, for example, ORI meaning snake could be written as ORII and ORI (fear) as ORRI and others with accents. This would be seriously taught from primary one. Anyone wanting to write in Lugbara would use that approved or standardized language. Am not a language expert but I would be willing to sit on such a committee. It is not true that Lugbara language has limited vocabulary. Take for example which language do you know has 6 different words for the same thing as below; ROAD in Lugbara can be 1. nzila 2. sika 3. geriko 4. gboko In fact I have forgotten the other two. Guys something must be done about the language orthography ASEA BASIL --- On Mon, 6/3/13, Rose Onama kozor...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Rose Onama kozor...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Lugbara To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, June 3, 2013, 6:35 PM PS. OGU..THIEF; OYA MONEKY-- LUGBARA COMES FROM MADI From: Bahemuka John Toa bahemukaj...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:01 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] Lugbara LUGBARA LANGUAGE IS THE EASIEST ON EARTH One word can have more than one meanings. Let me give you examples of 8 words having 34 meanings. A) ORI. 1.ORI can mean Fear. 2. ORI can mean Seed. 3. ORI can mean Lice. 4. ORI can mean Snake. 5. ORI can mean Gold. 6. ORI can mean Sweat. 7. ORI can mean Origin. 8. ORI can mean to slowly Cool. B). ALETI. 9. ALETI can mean i want to produce. 10. ALETI can mean we want to produce. 11. ALETI can mean we want Cow. 12. ALETI can mean i want to strangle. 13. ALETI requesting for Lips (Kiss). C). OGU. 14. OGU can mean Stealing. 15. OGU can mean Liver. 16. OGU can mean Waist. D). ETI. 17. ETI can mean Buttocks. 18. ETI can refer to giving birth . 19. ETI can be used to express extreme smartness. 20. ETI can mean Tamarine. E). NGA. 22. NGA can mean Flying. 23. NGA can mean Germination. 24. NGA can be used to mean erection. 25. NGA can mean waking. 26. NGA can mean Where. F). DRI. 27. DRI can mean Head. 28. When you mention DRI twice to like DRIDRI it means Hot. 29. DRI Can mean Hand. G). OMBE 30. OMBE can mean Neck. 31. OMBE can mean Tying. 32. OMBE can mean licking. H). OYO. 33. OYO can mean Monkey. 34. OYO can mean Swear/ Vow. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities whose papers need explanations. They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com To: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga,Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards,Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net have attended the WNF meetings in person, let alone send an apology for absence? The net has well over 300 people (I guess) but it would be a miracle to get 20 people in attendance at meetings (of course excluding members in the diaspora). Just wondering, Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Adiga Godi allij...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education Dear all, Have you heard people say talking is cheap ? That is what we do in this forum. The problem will go away by talking it away on the internet. God PLEASE, BLESS US or GIVE US WISDOM TO HELP OURSELVES! We should not raise hope when we can not DELIVER. I hope next year all will be OK. Thank you all. Adiga --- On Thu, 5/9/13, Vasco Oguzua vogu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vasco Oguzua vogu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 3:22 PM Winnie, Good question about the education project. I can tell that you were not in the discussions of such a similar education project sometime back in 2009 or 2010. The reactionary mode we discuss these issues on the forum and the issue quickly disappears after such emotional discussions is not new in this forum. Since that time when the issue came up was there any organized arrangements to carry forward the issue? If I am not mistaken, you were one of the volunteers who suggested your name to help in the committee. Were there any committee meetings
[WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Mr. Okuti, I see your point and frustrations. When do we talk about performance in our region?? When PLE, UCE and UACE results are out. And who do we always blame for poor performance?? TEACHERS!! We are that simple and petty. FM radios are silent or lukewarm about education in our region. Wait for next year when results of this year will be released. Everybody is withdrawn.. let me make that general statement. I share your frustrations. May be u are challenging all of us to post here what we are doing on ground. we need pragmatists not idealists to transform our region. Some of the primary schools we went cannot give a single first grade. What have we done? I think those are the issues you are trying to raise. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255 --- On Wed, 5/15/13, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: From: Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013, 5:09 AM Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities whose papers need explanations. They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AMWinnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com To: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga,Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need!your thoughts please
[WestNileNet] Looking for an agric. officer
I don't know why I cannot post on the West Nile forum. my mails bounce back but read the text below which I have failed to post. Hi Colleagues, I hope every member on this forum is in good health. My apologies for not being regular on the net. Some of us rely on public cafes. That explains my irregularity on this forum. Some people called me about the opportunity in Yambio, South Sudan. I have so far text five names of those who called me to the person who needs the agric officer. It will be up to him to choose. Good enough I do not know any of those guys who contacted me. Therefore, there will be no influence peddling from me. I told them about the pay. Some of those who already have something slightly good here in Uganda declined the offer. That is why I said probably someone who is unemployed or underemployed at the moment against the pay to be offered in Yambio. I wish the successful person all the best, should he take up the job, in Yambio. ASEA --- On Thu, 5/2/13, Adiga Godi allij...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adiga Godi allij...@yahoo.com Subject: Looking for ana agri. officer To: basilele2...@yahoo.com basilele2...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 5:10 PM Hello Asea,You recently asked the WestNile forum to find some one to work in Sudan. I have written about Mr. Drakuma but you have not said a word in the forum about the issue. Are you still interested to find an agric. officer? I am trying to connect you to Drakuma but before I call him, I need to know if the job is still available.Please check your WestNile mail for some information which is already available in case you would like to start the process directly with Drakuma and his nephew.We are trying to find a worker for you, so please respond.Thanks.Adiga Godi.6105098685USA___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Learning the Lugbara Language - A bloggers 2 cents-a good read!
Let me add my voice in historical perspective. -Lugbara would have been easier if the Roman Catholics and Church of Uganda Bible writers sat together to agree on certain things. Catholics write things different from the Protestants. However, it is not yet late to undo the differences. words like ti would be written differently tifa for mouth, ti for cow, tii or tti for giving birth. The debate is good. Asea Hmmm. Before reading this article, I had read another blog about 4 years ago of an American also living in Arua and struggling to learn Lugbara. That one was less dramatic than this one. But I'd also heard of people saying Lugbara is a difficult language to learn. This had actually gotten me thinking: Can't you try to make learning Lugbara easier? I made an outline and soon foxed out, not with After all the grapes are sour but with a barrage of: After all that is a relative statement. All languages are difficult to learn. Try a click language and tell me it is easy. Try the French which is spoken through the nose. . . etc, etc Well, this blog got me updating my draft again based on some of the issues pointed out in it. I am not yet finished. What got me particularly thinking was how to best address the challenge of that apt comparison with Chinese - due to the tonality of the language and the fact that we have several dialects, which makes it a very rich and admittedly confusing language. Allow me another foxing: Who says English or Dutch is not confusing? As an English language teacher myself, I got loads of examples to which I have no explanation or justification apart from saying, Sorry, but exceptions confirm the rule! Why do the English for example say, the singular form of the verb to-be is is and yet when you meet one person (that is singular, for sure) you as How are you? as if there is more than one person you are talking to? And the English have the audacity to say that is Correct English! Don't tell me the word wound in the following sentence has one and only one meaning: The nurse wound the bandage around the wound of the wounded boy. And why should the plural of box be boxes and the one of ox be oxen and not oxes? And why should a driver be a person, yet cooker is a thing for cooking and the person is a Cook and what the cook does is to cook? They also confuse us! But, that's the beauty and uniqueness of languages anyhow. The more reason why people learn languages. On a serious note: As many people have said, the article indeed made me see some things differently. For example, that Lugbara is a visual language. Hmmm. House-stomach! True, indeed. Visual and descriptive. That should make it even easier to learn. Common language teachers, let's do something to make this thing more palatable for those who want to get a different peek into our culture - through the language. The time keeping, I agree is something that is kind of different and often works against us. Not only the Lugbara but Ugandans. Did you read that article of the Teso youth protesting their MPs appearing at 6.30pm for a meeting that was scheduled for 3pm. My foot. We still have something to learn from the positive aspects of other cultures, which may enrich the positives in ours. Overall, it was some good food for thought and rib-breaking. Thank you George. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Santorino Data boymuked...@yahoo.com wrote: Great piece of writing indeed.This made my morning and now I understand why I spent 6 years in Arua and still struggle to speak the language - confusion just that needs very meticulous attention to detail and context even though I was from across the Lugbara border in Kakwa land Dr. Data Santorino Lecturer Department of Pediatrics and Child Health Mbarara University of Science and Technology Uganda. From: Anyole J anyo...@yahoo.ca To: George Afi Obitre-Gama gobi...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Learning the Lugbara Language - A bloggers 2 cents-a good read! This is a very interesting piece. It is always nice to see things from an out-siders perspective and make sense of things we are usually oblivious to, house-mouth, za-mva, et all! The piece does bring out some things that worry anthropologist too, cultures are gradually getting eroded traditions have been changing here as the pressure of our Western culture pervades and invades. as well, it high lights some issues that continue to plague us, such as time keeping, which has itself not been eroded by the same western culture. Thanks for sharing this, it did make my day that more interesting, got me thinking. One of these days, I'll beat my vernacular teacher a phone Anyole From: George Afi Obitre-Gama gobi...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for
[WestNileNet] NEW MEMBERS
these guys below tell me they are not receiving mail from westnile forum. may u add them sir. may u add ANDRUA JESCA to the group. andr...@yahoo.com and INZIKU ROBERT PAX inzikurobert...@gmail.com Asea --- On Mon, 4/15/13, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: RECEIVING GOVERNOR EMMANUEL AT THE 88DCA IN MOMBASA To: Barbara Oboke barbaraob...@gmail.com, Ephrance Nuwamanya sisterephra...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net, David Byamukama byamuka...@yahoo.com, Balinda Edward ebali...@ura.go.ug, Moses Mugabe riteval...@gmail.com, musimenta jane jmus...@gmail.com, tumwecharlie tumwechar...@yahoo.com, Fidelis Owen fideliso...@gmail.com Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 1:43 AM Please take note. Thank you. Rtn. Robert -- Forwarded message -- From: Uganda Rotary Office ugarot...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:41 PM Subject: RECEIVING GOVERNOR EMMANUEL AT THE 88DCA IN MOMBASA To: Uganda Rotary Office ugarot...@gmail.com sent by BCC Dear All Rotarians and Rotaractors The 88th District Conference and Assembly is on in Mombasa from 24th – 27th April 2013. This DCA is historic as we shall witness the birth of two (2) Rotary Districts; D9211 comprising of Uganda and Tanzania and D9212 comprising of Kenya, Ethiopia and Eritrea. The First District Governor for D9211 is Rtn Emmanuel Katongole. The Conference Committee for the 89th DCA would like to encourage all Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda to go to Mombasa to receive Rtn Emmanuel Katongole in style. The committee will beginning Saturday 13th April 2013, start selling T-shirts for District 9211. These T-shirts will be sold at Ushs 27,000/-. All Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda will dress up in the T-SHIRTS ON FRIDAY 26TH APRIL 2013, when DG EMMANUEL IS BEING INTRODUCED TO THE PLENARY. On Saturday 27th April 2013, all Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda will be dress up in a TRADITIONAL ATTIRE FROM UGANDA for the DISTRICT GOVERNORS BANQUET. Please pack your kanzus, gomesis, ebitambi, etc as these may not be readily available in the Mombasa shops. PLEASE INFORM ALL IN YOUR CLUBS Kind regards, and enjoy Mombasa! Rtn Peters K. Musoke Chairperson 89th District Conference and Assembly A dream is just a dream. A goal is a dream with a plan and a deadline. Harvey Mackay -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Learning the Lugbara Language - A bloggers 2 cents-a good read!
ama ecoki e'yo 'diyi ki nje Lugbara ti nderi si raya? awa'difo emini woro ambooru tu. Atamva Asea --- On Mon, 4/29/13, David Olema davidol...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: David Olema davidol...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Learning the Lugbara Language - A bloggers 2 cents-a good read! To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 4:21 AM Maadera has truly educated. Besides, Language grows with its continual use. Those who find Lugbara confusing only have challenges with intonations as they pronounce the words, which with time is sorted with time. Learning any language requires patience and every human being is equipped with language learning device (LAD), which enables him or her to learn any language. The bottom line is patience. The mistakes and frustrations are part of the learning process. My son over generalized past tense of ever word by simply adding ed at the end and asserted I eated all my food instead of I ate all my food, but this did not discourage him. Am sure he is one of the best English speakers in his class, going by the reports I get.In conclusion, Lugbara is not any different from any other language as far as learning it is confirmed. Those of you who like me grew up in Mvara remember Mr. and Mrs Mc Leo (not sure of spelling of the name) the missionaries based at Emmanuel Cathedral till 1980s spoke very good Lugbara and even preached in Lugbara. All the best for trying to learn our wonderful language. Awadifo. From: Asaf Adebua asaf...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2013, 9:56 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Learning the Lugbara Language - A bloggers 2 cents-a good read! A VERY LONG TICK TO YOU MAANDERA1 On 4/26/13, Maandera ibmaand...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm. Before reading this article, I had read another blog about 4 years ago of an American also living in Arua and struggling to learn Lugbara. That one was less dramatic than this one. But I'd also heard of people saying Lugbara is a difficult language to learn. This had actually gotten me thinking: Can't you try to make learning Lugbara easier? I made an outline and soon foxed out, not with After all the grapes are sour but with a barrage of: After all that is a relative statement. All languages are difficult to learn. Try a click language and tell me it is easy. Try the French which is spoken through the nose. . . etc, etc Well, this blog got me updating my draft again based on some of the issues pointed out in it. I am not yet finished. What got me particularly thinking was how to best address the challenge of that apt comparison with Chinese - due to the tonality of the language and the fact that we have several dialects, which makes it a very rich and admittedly confusing language. Allow me another foxing: Who says English or Dutch is not confusing? As an English language teacher myself, I got loads of examples to which I have no explanation or justification apart from saying, Sorry, but exceptions confirm the rule! Why do the English for example say, the singular form of the verb *to-be* is *is* and yet when you meet one person (that is singular, for sure) you as How *are* you? as if there is more than one person you are talking to? And the English have the audacity to say that is Correct English! Don't tell me the word *wound* in the following sentence has one and only one meaning: The nurse *wound* the bandage around the *wound* of the *wounded* boy. And why should the plural of *box* be bo*xes* and the one of ox be ox*en* and not ox*es*? And why should a *driv**er* be a person, yet *cooker* is a thing for cooking and the person is a *Cook* and what the *cook* does is to *cook*? They also confuse us! But, that's the beauty and uniqueness of languages anyhow. The more reason why people learn languages. On a serious note: As many people have said, the article indeed made me see some things differently. For example, that Lugbara is a visual language. Hmmm. House-stomach! True, indeed. Visual and descriptive. That should make it even easier to learn. Common language teachers, let's do something to make this thing more palatable for those who want to get a different peek into our culture - through the language. The time keeping, I agree is something that is kind of different and often works against us. Not only the Lugbara but Ugandans. Did you read that article of the Teso youth protesting their MPs appearing at 6.30pm for a meeting that was scheduled for 3pm. My foot. We still have something to learn from the positive aspects of other cultures, which may enrich the positives in ours. Overall, it was some good food for thought and rib-breaking. Thank you George. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Santorino Data boymuked...@yahoo.comwrote: Great piece of writing indeed. This made my morning and now I
[WestNileNet] Agric officer needed
Could any of you in this forum be knowing a friend (probably unemployed at the moment) who has a diploma or degree in agriculture? If so, let that person get in touch with me (0714655255). There is an opportunity for the willing person in Yambio, South Sudan. Asea. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
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may u add ANDRUA JESCA to the group. andr...@yahoo.com and INZIKU ROBERT PAX inzikurobert...@gmail.com Asea --- On Mon, 4/15/13, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: RECEIVING GOVERNOR EMMANUEL AT THE 88DCA IN MOMBASA To: Barbara Oboke barbaraob...@gmail.com, Ephrance Nuwamanya sisterephra...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net, David Byamukama byamuka...@yahoo.com, Balinda Edward ebali...@ura.go.ug, Moses Mugabe riteval...@gmail.com, musimenta jane jmus...@gmail.com, tumwecharlie tumwechar...@yahoo.com, Fidelis Owen fideliso...@gmail.com Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 1:43 AM Please take note. Thank you. Rtn. Robert -- Forwarded message -- From: Uganda Rotary Office ugarot...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:41 PM Subject: RECEIVING GOVERNOR EMMANUEL AT THE 88DCA IN MOMBASA To: Uganda Rotary Office ugarot...@gmail.com sent by BCC Dear All Rotarians and Rotaractors The 88th District Conference and Assembly is on in Mombasa from 24th – 27th April 2013. This DCA is historic as we shall witness the birth of two (2) Rotary Districts; D9211 comprising of Uganda and Tanzania and D9212 comprising of Kenya, Ethiopia and Eritrea. The First District Governor for D9211 is Rtn Emmanuel Katongole. The Conference Committee for the 89th DCA would like to encourage all Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda to go to Mombasa to receive Rtn Emmanuel Katongole in style. The committee will beginning Saturday 13th April 2013, start selling T-shirts for District 9211. These T-shirts will be sold at Ushs 27,000/-. All Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda will dress up in the T-SHIRTS ON FRIDAY 26TH APRIL 2013, when DG EMMANUEL IS BEING INTRODUCED TO THE PLENARY. On Saturday 27th April 2013, all Rotarians and Rotaractors from Uganda will be dress up in a TRADITIONAL ATTIRE FROM UGANDA for the DISTRICT GOVERNORS BANQUET. Please pack your kanzus, gomesis, ebitambi, etc as these may not be readily available in the Mombasa shops. PLEASE INFORM ALL IN YOUR CLUBS Kind regards, and enjoy Mombasa! Rtn Peters K. Musoke Chairperson 89th District Conference and Assembly A dream is just a dream. A goal is a dream with a plan and a deadline. Harvey Mackay -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Museveni meets Acholi leaders over OPM scam
For me I lost hope in politicians long long ago especially those from West Nile. They are greedy, self seekers. The great Maracha-Terego divide is perpetuated by politicians and some religious leaders. A number of them believe that anything good can come from either side. Let's forget about West Nile politicians and move on with our daily duties. ASEA --- On Thu, 3/21/13, banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Museveni meets Acholi leaders over OPM scam To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Cc: Kobokonet Koboko koboko...@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:18 AM Caleb, You are spot on. Ladies and gentlemen, relying on the politicians from West Nile is a very risky venture. Its high time we forgot about them and do what we can as concerned citizens of West Nile through our various vocations. Those in the ruling party are strategising for ministerial appointments and positioning themselves for attention of the chief executive. They will not want to be labelled as 'rebels', least they miss out. WNF, try to summon them, it will be a surprise if you receive apologies. At most, they will go silent and not turn up. A very dangerous bill is in front of them for discussion. I don't know how many of them are holding consultative meetings with the people in their constituencies now. Those are the people we elected and that is what we get. May Allah guide us as the people of West Nile, insha-allah. -- From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Cc: Kobokonet Koboko koboko...@yahoogroups.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013, 8:44 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Museveni meets Acholi leaders over OPM scam Charles, West Nile Politicians are not only myopic, but seem to be cursed. They believe in there political parties more than West Nile. Instead of giving West Nile their allegiance first, their allegiance is to FDC or NRM, what is strange is that if we summon these politicians, they will fear to turn up. All the same, we shall try to summon them. A week or so ago. I applied for bail for business Hassan Basajjabalaba, I called his brother Nasser Basajjabalaba former NRM member of Parliament Ishaka/Bushenyi Municipality. Court rejected him on the basis of age, suddenly I saw a gentleman stand up, and approaching the bar where lawyers seat, he offered to stand as surety instead of Nasser, it was Hon. Ado Tayebwa the FDC leaning Man who defeated Nasser to become MP for the same Constituency, more over Nasser filed a petition which is not yet disposed of. I knew why Bushenyi is one of the most developed districts in Uganda. When Eriya Kategaya passed on Besigye and Museveni attended his burial, when our good friend the late Finia passed on some MPs did not attend because Aridru then was NRM leaning. Any way, lets try Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Charles Male cdm...@gmail.com wrote: Why are west nile politicians not joining the acholi politicians since west nile suffered the consequences of the various wars as also? Why cant west nile ask for serious government intervention like the Acholi politicians? Caleb, when is WNF going to bring WN politicians under one roof and tell them how displeased west nilers are for the state of affairs in teh region? CUT__ “We want serious government intervention in the north,” a member of the team, who requested not to be named told the Daily Monitor. “Our people have suffered because of the war and the government intervention has not been satisfactory. Instead of helping our people, OPM officials decided to [eat] the donor funds in the name of our people and the President is silent.” While the details from the Rwakitura meeting were still scanty, another legislator told this newspaper that the President was to take the Acholi leaders on a tour to appreciate modern farming techniques needed in the fight against poverty. ymuge...@ug.nationmedia.com ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are
[WestNileNet] Bus Accidents
Dear friends, I have taken time to be on the net. I had wanted to write something about transport costs in West Nile region, but only to be shocked by the tragic accident involving California Bus. I wanted to think aloud to ask why a passenger from Arua to Nebbi pays 10.000= to 12.000= (for 77kms) compared to 6.000= from Hoima to Kiboga (77kms) yet the fuel prices don't vary very much. Arua Nebbi route is busier than Hoima Kiboga, so I expected Arua Nebbi to be cheaper. Economists explain for us. I have traavelled widely in Uganda but until recently it was only West Nile travellers who were subjected to serious searching by police and security agencies at Pakwach. Who will protect us? Back to these accidents. Accidents are not only a West Nile occurrence but I will limit myself to the region. Surely something must be done. It is not enough for bus owners to meet funeral expenses and fines from Transport Board. Imagine dependants left by the deceased. And there are people who are disabled for life. How do they support their families? There are more questions than answers. We demand more from these bus owners. It is so painful. Tomorrow it can be me or you. What can be done colleagues? We are not going to continue dying on roads like this. It is not enough to check drivers for competence in driving. They need regular mental checks. How do their employers treat them. Are they stressed? Imagine a driver who has intentions of committing suicide. Of course he will not take a rope but crush a bus. No stone should be left unturned as we try to find solutions to road carnage in the country. Thank you. ASEA BASIL --- On Wed, 3/20/13, JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com wrote: From: JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 6:49 AM While we all mourn the loss of people who have died in this unfortunate accident and several others. Can anyone investigate if Bus Operators do insure passengers? Do they carry Third Part Liability Insurance on their vehicles that cover passengers? while buses are insured to operate on the road, does this insurance cover passengers?Every year, we bury people and Bus operators only help with funeral cost? How long shall this kind of thing continue? Whether someone looses a husband, a wife, or a child, a life has been lost? Is funeral cost the most reasonable thing Bus Operators do? Bus Operators owe responsibility for the SAFETY OF THEIR CUSTOMERS WHILE TRAVELING. DO THEY APPRECIATE AND VALUE THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESS?is it possible to lobby Ministry of Transport (MTO) and Police to improve vehicle inspections? JJ On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:00 AM, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net wrote: Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sad News (brian aleni) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) From: brian aleni alenibr...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Sad News Message-ID: 1363727732.76084.yahoomailclas...@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Very Sad indeed to hear the death of Aloro Copper Alfred in a Bus accident.This is unfortunate.My condolences to the berieved family.May his Soul rest in Eternal Peace. ? Aleni Brian Nyakuta and Family --- On Mon, 3/18/13, Steve Adraka so155...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steve Adraka so155...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Sad News To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, March 18, 2013, 12:18 PM It is unfortunate to keep hearing loss of lives all over the word due to accidents! My heatfelt condolences to the family, relatives and friends of Aloro Alfred Copper. May the Lord Mercy recieve him in heaven! Fr. Steve On 18 March 2013 07:02, Carmello Draga cadraga2...@yahoo.com wrote: ?Condolence to the family may the soul RIPand my prayers for those in hospital and may they get well soon --- On Sun, 3/17/13, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Sad News To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Sunday, March 17, 2013, 11:26 AM West Nile Foundation with deep sorrow announces the untimely demise of Aloro Alfred
[WestNileNet] NEW MEMBER
Dear Sir, May u add Fr Vincent Waiga of Holy Ghost Fathers based in Mulago Parish vincentwa...@yahoo.com And also Mr Remijo Enzama remijoenz...@yahoo.com Thank u. Asea Basil --- On Wed, 3/6/13, betty wuzu betb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: betty wuzu betb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: DR Epiphany Picho Report To: ALFRED NYAKUNI unclen...@yahoo.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net, Paparu Pamela bome...@yahoo.co.uk, Stacey Stella stellastace...@yahoo.com, grace safi safigr...@yahoo.co.uk, Evelyne Ezaru evez...@yahoo.com, koboko...@yahoogroups.com koboko...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 12:56 AM Yes Teacher Alfred, And we as MOGA Kampala we will line up to give you support too. Betty Wuzu Adoption and Foster Care Officer/Child Helpline Counselor Action For Children P.O.BOX 25417 Kampala-Uganda Plot 110, Lutaaya Drive - Bukoto Mobile +256 772 305 966/701 234 405 Office number +256 414 541 111 Every Child is my Child. From: ALFRED NYAKUNI unclen...@yahoo.com To: betty wuzu betb...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net; Paparu Pamela bome...@yahoo.co.uk; Stacey Stella stellastace...@yahoo.com; grace safi safigr...@yahoo.co.uk; Evelyne Ezaru evez...@yahoo.com; koboko...@yahoogroups.com koboko...@yahoogroups.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: DR Epiphany Picho Report Dear all, I have been following this discussion and we as teachers are happy to realise your concerns on problems in our field of study. I think as Muni Girls' SSS, we would welcome such pilot projects to come to our school because as the University will begin, we are also aware that alot more experiments and pilot projects will be implemented in the school.We are looking forward to future cooperations with all stakeholders in Education Nyakuni Alfred, Radio Pacis 90.9 fm P.O.Box 494, Arua. E-mail:unclen...@yahoo.com Alternative E-mail:anyak...@kyu.ac.ug Tel:+256772373312.From: betty wuzu betb...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net; Paparu Pamela bome...@yahoo.co.uk; Stacey Stella stellastace...@yahoo.com; grace safi safigr...@yahoo.co.uk; Evelyne Ezaru evez...@yahoo.com; koboko...@yahoogroups.com koboko...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: DR Epiphany Picho Report Hola to you all, Hope you are all well. Winnie is right and i guess we could start with a school as a pilot. Okay for not being selfish but if we are looking for a school to start on, i will give Muni Girls School and the Primary section as well. I know all schools have dropped but Muni girls from being one of the top schools has really come down. We will more than grateful to be part of this. Betty Wuzu Adoption and Foster Care Officer/Child Helpline Counselor Action For Children P.O.BOX 25417 Kampala-Uganda Plot 110, Lutaaya Drive - Bukoto Mobile +256 772 305 966/701 234 405 Office number +256 414 541 111 Every Child is my Child. From: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: DR Epiphany Picho Report Dear members,Clearly enough research has been undertaken on the ailing education sector in west Nile region. May i propose that we identify one school each from both secondary and primary section, and use it as a case study and try to implement some of the recommendations contained in the report? The interventions that will have been adopted in the school so identified can be used as a model and spread to the others. Of course the issue would be which school? Regards, Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Carmello Draga cadraga2...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Jackson, Well come back from your field study and i hope the study was of value for the programme you are undertaking.Thanks Jackson for your interactions with those stake holders in our education sector and your observations as well but the feed back from the stakeholders about the decline in the education that the issues are VERY COMPLEX AND NEED CONCERTED EFFORTS leaves me desirous to know what these VERY COMPLEX issues are and in any can they not be addressed and whether these are of recent times that the glorious days of 70s or 80s were not affected by?.Surely it would do if the specifics of those complexities are underlined and the enormous concerted efforts of members is directed towards some or all of them to achieve results Once again thanks for the info. Regards --- On Mon, 3/4/13, JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com wrote: From: JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: DR Epiphany Picho Report To: samuel andema andema...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: maandebo
[WestNileNet] NEW MEMBERS
May you add Mr Aliga Stephen of Kabalega SS Masindi rali...@hotmail.com Mr. Anguyo Tom (currently based in Iraq) angujoa...@yahoo.com Munduni Angelo SJ (now in Tanzania) mundumuny...@yahoo.com Thank you. ASEA BASIL --- On Mon, 3/4/13, Caleb Alaka calebal...@gmail.com wrote: From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Research on poor academic performance in West Nile To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, March 4, 2013, 4:59 AM Charles indeed our team is overwhelmed. Your suggestion is going to be placed before the Executive. I mean the work is enormous. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Charles Male cdm...@gmail.com wrote: Caleb, WN Foundation may wish to consider recruting a full-time Coordinator if it is to realise the work that it is setting itself to do. The proposed conference, follow up with members, MPs, district leaders etc must be arranged and/or undertaken by a full-time Coordinator. The members of the Board can't possibly follow up on all these discussions while maintaining full time employment. The issue of poor performance has come up in the past and members both here and Kobokonet have expressed their anger and frustration but as we all know, very little was done to mitigate the situation. Unless there is a Coordinator to follow up with the current discussions and proposals, this too, will come to nought. We experimented with a Project Manager (PM) for Kobokonet which worked very well...and freed those of us intimately involved in tryinign to get the discussion going --- members raised funds to pay for the 12 months that the PM coordinated Kobokonet. Part of the contract with the PM was to undertake further fundraising in order to keep he position going but unfortunately it never happened. Based on experience, the best way to ensure the success of any network such as West Nile net or Kobokonet that seek to undertake projects/programs is to employ a full-time Coordinator who reports to the Board of Directors. Charles n 3/3/13, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: I am touched with all the views being expressed, I have also seen the magnitude of the work on our shoulders as leaders of West Nile Foundation, I think this name was appropriately given to our organization looking at the tasks ahead, I thank all those who have volunteered here and there to be part of the anticipated committee in charge of either the fact finding committee or the organizing Committee of the intended conference, John Jackson has always been instrumental in summarizing action points, as we continue generating more ideas, I pray John is going to work hand in hand with Drani Francis Xaviour our SG to summarize our agreed points, thanks for all those contributing, lets air out our different views, let us not forget that we too are part of the West Nile Community. Some of you are experts in conducting online research, when time comes for the committee to carry out research, it will definitely require researches of the Yumbe, Koboko reports and our own input. Thank s. We your leaders are already having series of meetings and you will soon be informed of the outcomes. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Charles Male cdm...@gmail.com wrote: Dr Obaa, I agree with Mr. Jackson Avudria that the results of the study in Yumbe district can be extrapolated across the rest of west nile districts. Mr. Stephen Todoko (former Chair of Anticorruption Koboko) and the Koboko Joint University Students Association (KOJUSA) undertook similar but separate studies as a result of concerns arising from poor performance in PLE, O and A levels. The results mirror those seen in Yumbe District exactly. Just substitute Koboko for Yumber and everything remains the same. Plus, in my opinion if you really, really want to find how bad our education system has gone...Yumber and Koboko districts are the best case studies for I think they are at the bottom if you ranked perfromance in west nile districts/counties. Sure, you will hear that St Charles Lwanga performed well in some years but do not forget that the majority Lwanga students come from outside of the district! It may be different now but that was always the situation. So to me undertaking further research will delay action and the good will that is arising now! Action is what is needed now. Part of the preparation for this conference should be concurrent one on one (if possible) meetings between WN Foundation leadership with all WN MPs to ascertain their take on the deplorable performance and what action(s) they intend to take to addres the situation. There should be targeted meetings either now or after the proposed conference with different groups -- for example, religious leaders, CSOs, college and university student associations etc. All our leaders and especially the religious and community
[WestNileNet] Dr Picho Research Results
Hi Colleagues, Thank you. I hope all of u are in god moods and health. I have read some of the comments about Fr. Picho's research. We need to go beyond the findings of the report. He has done the diagnosis and let's administer the right medicine. Some of you have already provided that or are personally involved in one way or the other. I commend that. We need to ask: why are teachers not in class today but they offered their best to help some of us. I sat P7 in 1988 at Otravu P7 in Maracha County then. Teachers gave their best for no pay. Their pride was candidates passing with good grades. Children would pass from any corner of West Nile. We used to hear of Ciloa, Kololo, Oriajini, Maracha, Paranga, Nyarilo, Teremunga, Lodonga Demo, Arua Demo...and the list is endless. I remember the late Mr. John Moro the then Inspector of Schools going on bicycle to supervise schools. District officials like Mr.Chaigga (RIP) were ever in schools. We would gather around Mr. Chaigga's motorbike to admire it because piki pikis were rare. The rest is history. Some of u have correctly mentioned as to head teachers are supervised from district headquarters. I used to see Nyaparas and Joagos assessing children who did not want to go to school to pay musoro. That alone would force them to go to school. Parents supported teachers in their work. Parents would come and thatch teachers' houses, drill pit latrines in schools. Nyaparas were everywhere at disco places (danji) chasing away school children. I would go on and on, but let me not waste your precious time. The question we need to ask is, Why are those things not happening now despite the handsome figures given to us by politicians? Why is there no community role or involvement today like in the past? Was UPE misunderstood? Somebody somewhere is not telling the whole truth. Do we still believe our politicians who reprimand teachers for asking an extra coin to improve learning in schools? One disease of Ugandans, with due respect to the researchers, is elitism. Many people have done good researches have been done. So what? Unless we become more practical we shall continue to cry and cry and those who can will send their children to Kampala. Lastly how many of us on this forum studied from Kla and its environs? Where are our Ombaci, Mvara, Nyapea, Koboko, Warr,...not mentioning the primary schools.. in this equation. ASEA BASIL. Why are pare --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Carmello Draga cadraga2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Carmello Draga cadraga2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Dr Picho Research Results To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 11:47 PM Jackson, Thanks for this very important research document from Fr.Dr.Picho.Much as the research covered Yumbe,i think most if not all of the findings cut across other Districts especially issues like absenteeism by teaching staff,parental negligence,indiscipline,poor Head teacher-teacher relationship etc are common aspects in most schools.For instance finding from Nyoko are more less the same with most Schools in Obongi in Moyo, Udupi,Uriama and Omugo in Terego,Yivu in Maracha,Kuniro in Koboko etc.If i can recall years ago some of these gaps were raised in this forum and were not given attention to and i believe this could be the time to analyse Fr,Picho;s findings further and objectively tackle where possible.On some personal note i have being sending some end of Month or term exams from some of the primary School from Kampala,Entebbe,Mukono(e.g Savio,Namilyango Jr,Namagunga etc which to some extent has helped improve perfomance to some extent though there is still the challenge of appropriate ability of some teachers in skills orientation. I am tempted to say that there is very minimal supervision of education sector by the responsible District heads and i do not know whether the DEO;s and inspectorate of schools are effective and efficient and some one will eventually concur with me that some of these people have over stayed in these positions without positive results that they don't deserve to be there and are no transfers of DEOs especially Arua sorry if i have mentioned in particular district.You see instead of these people visiting or inspecting schools,the HMs visit them ironically,so what do expect,God help us The stifled foundation stage education in the primary school impacts greatly to the upper levels and if those gaps are not fixed, then we expected more cries with some severe repercussions that the likes of Fagils call mediocre which shall be Well when it comes to the ailing education and health matters of WN, I am tempted to write much,please ignore the grammar and pick necessaries Thanks --- On Sun, 3/3/13, JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com wrote: From: JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Dr Picho Research Results To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 7:33 PM I
[WestNileNet] Thank you
Hi Dear West Nilers, I would like to thank those who initiated such a group email where we can contribute ideas to develop our region. No one outside West Nile will come to do it for us. That should be our main focus. I also would like to thank Dr. Obaa Bernard of Makerere University for introducing me to this group email. I am a teacher trainer by profession currently pursuing masters at Makerere. My passion is the decline of our schools in the region. I am sure you guys must have talked about education in our region, but we should not give up. I look forward to contributing in this forum. God bless u all. ASEA BASIL 0772655255 --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WEST NILE EDUCATION CONFRENCE To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 4:02 AM Thank you Vasco, The word is commitment and most of our ideas will actually work. Perhaps we try address how to get 10-12 people committed and they will help us in understanding later how to get in and make a difference. Thank you once again. Ejiku On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Vasco Oguzua vogu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Folks, The commitment issue Robert has stressed in my view is the gist of a lot of our dilemma in addressing most problems we have talked, discussed and recycled. Commitment and a very careful planning I think in this particular issue is as important. That is why I suggested a committee of at least 10 -12 people be established to conduct hearings in each district and the report from these committees be the basis of organizing the conference. This will of of course require a careful planning and time and commitment from people to take the initiative to volunteer themselves in these committees. One of the problems we have with our people is their lack of interest in volunteering their time to help their own communities. Thanks, Vasco On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: Caleb, You have said it even better. A convention, workshop oof any type would certainly bring some change but how committed are those who may not be sharing this problem with us right now? For instance does the CAO Arua or Nebbi think this is a problem? When you invite them at the hour of need they will send you one of those reps of theirs who may not even report back let alone direct policy or implementation at any stage. Its true we can not get everyone but thier commitment is paramount. Secondly such a convention needs alot of planning to realize the desired goals and that means time. Lets plan pray over it and implement. June is my earliest preference. Thank you, off to a meeting shortly and will be in touch later even on phone with some of you. Ejiku On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Prof. Robert, I read your essay with tears, at times I feel like refusing to register my SIM cards and allowing to be switched off by UCC to avoid uncalled for heartaches from our region. Again the prospect of loosing business looms larger as a threat to the existence of my survival if my phone is switched off by UCC. Any way. Robert, if modern medicine fails to cure a strange disease or a long ailment, human beings resort to everything under the sky including, mysticism, witch crafty, superstition, spiritualism, salvation and mention it. The truth is all these are in most cases desperate measures, and believe you me, may be it gives a sense of hope. For donkey years, we have hoofed, puffed and gaffed over the death of education in our region. Fagil Mande the Chairman UNEB on TV lambasted mediocrity, and boldly stated that if you have mediocre teachers, who teach mediocre students in a mediocre school the results will surely be mediocre. I am not accusing any teacher since those are not my words. But those words sum up our situation. Prof, you, me and the rest have intervened in everything that affects us, if we had a convention say hosted in one of the schools, we invite all stake holders including Fagil Mande, we have two serious days of deliberation, we invite all head teachers from West Nile Schools or their representatives, business men, LC3, and V chairpersons, Education officers, RDCs, parents representatives, CAO's ourselves and MPs, Student representatives and we come up with resolutions which districts in West Nile can adopt as working documents including schools, and may be Government inclusive, then we see no change in attitudes of students, parents and school administrators and if we do not see improvement in results, I will gladly say, we did our part and may be resort to only prayers. Sorry these issues can only be expressed in form of essays. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:27 PM, aggrey adrale fetagrey2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Caleb, Elly, et al, I like
