[WestNileNet] How much?

[Sebastian Owilla]

Hi,

I would like to get clear of two queries:

1.   How is the arrangement of accommodation in Arua (say for travelers
to Arua)?
2.   How much is the travel fare for this special arrangement?

Thank you,

Sebastian

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From: Caleb Alaka 
Subject: [WestNileNet] Administrator West Nile Foundation
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are
aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective
callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your
leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. For things
to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who will be a
volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say three times a
day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and facilitate the
person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a person can be a
graduate and be in charge of our programs like the Development of our
Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He will coordinate all
our activities. We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:19:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Caleb Alaka 
Subject: [WestNileNet] Jackson Asiku World title Holder of
International   Boxing Organization Home Coming
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
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As you are aware, our own Jackson who won the International Boxing
Organization November 2009 intends to go Home (Arua) for the first time
in his life. This young man lost both parents while a kid. But he has
uncles in Kampala who will accompany him to Maracha were he comes from.
We shall live tonight at midnight from Rugby Club by Gaaga. Those who
are going should get in touch with Okuonzi David or Afema Robert by at
least 2:00 p.m for planning purposes. We need to know how many people
are going. We also have beautiful T.Shirts . which goes for 15,000. We
shall appreciate your cooperation since this is the first major event
organized by West Nile Foundation


  
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[WestNileNet] REGIONAL TIER

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Friends of WestNile,

Ideally the Regional Tier system of governance is a great option in bridging 
the different communities in Uganda closer once again.

During Pre-colonial time this was seen in sub-regions now known as West Nile, 
Acholi, Lango, and Teso. It however, was not tried among the Kingdoms that were 
found in the central, western, and southern regions as they were hostile to one 
another.

My view is that this system should not be 'forced'; Kingdoms should be allowed 
to either embrace or reject it. Then with time, the Regional Tier system should 
revamp to what is now known as federal system of governance (Not FEDERO) - 
which some political parties are agitating to offer Ugandans when they come to 
power.

It is time opinion leaders in the different communities (e.g. Marach, Terego, 
Vura) come together to strike a common understanding as hostile feelings are 
exterminate. Culture politics should begin to blend gentle to soothe/heal the 
damages caused by western type of politics. Henceforth, we shall see the advent 
of a new system of governance - Federal System.

Regards,

Sebastian  


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Hi,

I would like to get clear of two queries:

1.   How is the arrangement of accommodation in Arua (say for travelers
to Arua)?
2.   How much is the travel fare for this special arrangement?

Thank you,

Sebastian

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Subject: [WestNileNet] Administrator West Nile Foundation
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Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are
aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective
callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your
leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. For things
to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who will be a
volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say three times a
day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and facilitate the
person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a person can be a
graduate and be in charge of our programs like the Development of our
Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He will coordinate all
our activities. We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we
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From: Caleb Alaka 
Subject: [WestNileNet] Jac

[WestNileNet] RE: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 59

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Mr Avudria,

 

Many thanks for herding back to outstanding issues: 

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are
aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective
callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your
leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. 

 

For things to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who
will be a volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say
three times a day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and
facilitate the person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a
person can be a graduate and be in charge of our programs like the
Development of our Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He
will coordinate all

our activities. 

 

We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we shall discuss
latter."

 

My view is that for one to engage in discussing such imperative issues
at hand, a good background information is required. Hence, I am
requesting the leadership of WNF to make documents pertaining Strategic
plan, Vision, mission statement, and constitution accessible to members;
I, for one, have not seen such documentations.

 

Regards,

 

Sebastian

 

 

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   3. Re: Re:Regional Tier (Dimba Tabani Patrick)

 

 

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:24:36 + (GMT)

From: banduga ismail 

Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] West Nile Foundation

To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 

Message-ID: <297694.10351...@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

 

Dear Brothers and sisters,

 

I must say I have learnt of this brilliant ideas just a few days ago. So
I consider myself a late comer. Never the less, I get a picture. The
development of WNF is one and the main agenda, the discussions,
political, social, developmental, educational something we can do on the
forum.

 

If we are not moving fast enough with the development of WNF because we
are busy in our respective callings, then the need to have someone
specific becomes apparent.

 

I think we need to develop a precise TOR for this function and
operationalize it.

 

Thank you,

Banduga Ismail 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 25/1/10, JohnAJackson  wrote:

 

 

From: JohnAJackson 

Subject: [WestNileNet] West Nile Foundation

To: westnilenet@kym.net

Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 14:46

 

 

 

Dear Colleageues,

 

The president of WNF posted this message for commemnds, suggestions,
recommendations or discussion. 

We need you help on this iissue.  This issue has been marred by other
topics that cropped up. Please give us you commends

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are

aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective

callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your

leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. 

 

For things to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who
will be a

volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say three times a

day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and facilitate the

person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a person can be a

graduate and be in charge of our programs like the Development of our

Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He will coordinate all

our activities. 

 

We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we

shall discuss latter. 

 

Thanks

 

Remember we are all busy professionals in our careers. How do we mobe
ahead to implement the WNF agenda?

Organizing meeting in the evenings once a while or weekends,  whenever
is not effective in making the agenda of WNF materialize.

 

The need to have someone coordianate activities is very agent if we want
WNF to be successful.

Your suggestions, opinion, commends, recommendations will be appreciated

 

Avudria

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:42:02 -0500
From: Vasco Oguzua 
Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: The West Nile Foundation - President's
    Submission
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Fellow Distinguished Brothers and Sisters on this Forum,



I would like to thank Mr. Sebastian Owilla for a good point of information in 
re-informing this forum of the important debate the President of West Nile 
Foundation requested about activities of the Foundation. I know Mr. John 
Avudria has been persistently mentioning this issue in the past few weeks,  but 
we have not been able to initiate any discussions or deliberations on the 
administration or coordination and/or activities of the Foundation. Thank you 
Mr. Rogers Anguzu for re-posting the President's submission which I actually 
had never seen before. Infact I have not seen the minutes of the last meeting 
which probably was also posted, but slipped off my attention somewhere when I 
was probably not a away for sometime.




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Message-ID: 

rum subscribers are faced with with respect to the development of our regio=
n=2C West Nile. They are many and almost all of them are equally important =
when one sits to think about them. According to the President=2C there are =
almost 220 subscribers to the forum to discuss the development issues of We=
st Nile.  I would like to believe that these 220 people have made a serious=
decision to subscribe to the debate and discussions to move our region to =
a different level of development as opposed to what it is at this present t=
ime. However=2C we should not be naive to believe that all these subscriber=
s have the same agenda in their subscription to the forum. In our discussio=
n and/or deliberations for the development of the region we are bound to ri=
dicule and antagonize each other and the government wherever appropriate. H=
owever=2C we shall have have to bear in mind that vigorous intellectual deb=
ate should be encouraged without fear and favour but in the interest of fin=
ding a solution to the problem(s) at hand. We shall definitely identify and=
isolate subscribers who may have sinister objectives and other agenda with=
regard to the development of our region.=20

=20

First I would like to suggest that since the foundation is has no funds as =
it has just been initiated=2C we should all agree to pay the annual sh.50=
=2C000.00/- as suggested. [Assuming all the 220 subscribers paid up=2C we s=
hall have (220 X 50=2C000.00) =3D 11=2C000=2C000.00 (11 million) which I be=
lieve is a reasonable starting funds for the Foundation]. I will begin by p=
ledging my membership - please treasurer write me in and I will pay sh.100=
=2C000.00/- for my membership by this weekend. I think we should should sta=
rt from this point of paying membership fee so that the foundation has some=
operational funds.

=20

Secondly=2C I would like to suggest the foundation should  follow up with t=
he Education Task Force deliberations and the Hunger Project we already sta=
rted since last year.=20

As for the education project=2C we saw a report sometime last year=2C a sub=
mission of which I believe was only associated with schools in Yumbe distri=
ct. Much as we may have similar problems with schools in the whole of West =
Nile=2C I think we need to find out what happened to the reports from other=
districts? Although the president's submission had a plan to have 150 PhD =
holders and 200 Master degree holders in west Nile=2C I would like to say t=
hat I think the problems with Kindergarden (Pre-Primary)=2C Primary and Sec=
ondary school level are the most important the foundation should address. I=
f the early foundations are not properly laid=2C we are bound to have probl=
ems in achieving those targets for the higher learning. We have all seen ho=
w in the past 20 or so years the levels of Primary and Secondary education =
has deteriorated in our region. My suggestion would be for the foundation t=
o establish or support at least two or three Primary and Secondary schools =
in each of the districts in West Nile. These schools should become model sc=
hools from which the highest academic standards are expected=2C enforced=2C=
with excellent school infrastructure provided and qualified and well motiv=
ated teachers recruited. While higher education (PhDs and Masters Degrees) =
is a good bar we have set=2C it is imperative to note that our expectation =
in the kind of education we should think is should be linked to many improv=
ements in quality of life=2C such as increased employment opportunities=2C =
lowered fertility rates=2C more productive farming=2C better nutrition=2C e=
mpowerment of women=2C reduction of maternal and child mortality=2

[WestNileNet] 'War' Against primitive method of growing tobacco in West Nile region

[Sebastian Owilla]

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:42:02 -0500
From: Vasco Oguzua 
Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: The West Nile Foundation - President's
Submission
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Fellow Distinguished Brothers and Sisters on this Forum,



I would like to thank Mr. Sebastian Owilla for a good point of
information in re-informing this forum of the important debate the
President of West Nile Foundation requested about activities of the
Foundation. I know Mr. John Avudria has been persistently mentioning
this issue in the past few weeks,  but we have not been able to initiate
any discussions or deliberations on the administration or coordination
and/or activities of the Foundation. Thank you Mr. Rogers Anguzu for
re-posting the President's submission which I actually had never seen
before. Infact I have not seen the minutes of the last meeting which
probably was also posted, but slipped off my attention somewhere when I
was probably not a away for sometime.




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Message-ID: 

rum subscribers are faced with with respect to the development of our
regio=
n=2C West Nile. They are many and almost all of them are equally
important =
when one sits to think about them. According to the President=2C there
are =
almost 220 subscribers to the forum to discuss the development issues of
We=
st Nile.  I would like to believe that these 220 people have made a
serious=
decision to subscribe to the debate and discussions to move our region
to =
a different level of development as opposed to what it is at this
present t=
ime. However=2C we should not be naive to believe that all these
subscriber=
s have the same agenda in their subscription to the forum. In our
discussio=
n and/or deliberations for the development of the region we are bound to
ri=
dicule and antagonize each other and the government wherever
appropriate. H=
owever=2C we shall have have to bear in mind that vigorous intellectual
deb=
ate should be encouraged without fear and favour but in the interest of
fin=
ding a solution to the problem(s) at hand. We shall definitely identify
and=
isolate subscribers who may have sinister objectives and other agenda
with=
regard to the development of our region.=20

=20

First I would like to suggest that since the foundation is has no funds
as =
it has just been initiated=2C we should all agree to pay the annual
sh.50=
=2C000.00/- as suggested. [Assuming all the 220 subscribers paid up=2C
we s=
hall have (220 X 50=2C000.00) =3D 11=2C000=2C000.00 (11 million) which I
be=
lieve is a reasonable starting funds for the Foundation]. I will begin
by p=
ledging my membership - please treasurer write me in and I will pay
sh.100=
=2C000.00/- for my membership by this weekend. I think we should should
sta=
rt from this point of paying membership fee so that the foundation has
some=
operational funds.

=20

Secondly=2C I would like to suggest the foundation should  follow up
with t=
he Education Task Force deliberations and the Hunger Project we already
sta=
rted since last year.=20

As for the education project=2C we saw a report sometime last year=2C a
sub=
mission of which I believe was only associated with schools in Yumbe
distri=
ct. Much as we may have similar problems with schools in the whole of
West =
Nile=2C I think we need to find out what happened to the reports from
other=
districts? Although the president's submission had a plan to have 150
PhD =
holders and 200 Master degree holders in west Nile=2C I would like to
say t=
hat I think the problems with Kindergarden (Pre-Primary)=2C Primary and
Sec=
ondary school level are the most important the foundation should
address. I=
f the early foundations are not properly laid=2C we are bound to have
probl=
ems in achieving those targets for the higher learning. We have all seen
ho=
w in the past 20 or so years the levels of Primary and Secondary
education =
has deteriorated in our region. My suggestion would be for the
foundation t=
o establish or support at least two or three Primary and Secondary
schools =
in each of the districts in West Nile. These schools should become model
sc=
hools from which the highest academic standards are expected=2C
enforced=2C=
with excellent school infrastructure provided and qualified and well
motiv=
ated teachers recruited. While higher education (PhDs and Masters
Degrees) =
is a good bar we have set=2C it is imperative to note that our
expectation =
in the kind of education we should think is should be linked to many
improv=
ements in quality of life=2C such as increased employment
opportunities=2C =
lowered fertility rates=2C more productive farm

[WestNileNet] Mr Acadre Robert's Research Report

[Sebastian Owilla]

ject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 65
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>  3. Re: The West Nile Foundation - President's Submission
>  (Vasco Oguzua)
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>Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:30:50 -0800 (PST)
>From: Dimba Tabani Patrick
> 
>Subject: [WestNileNet] RE:Footsteps of Level headed-leadership
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>The Regional Tier system of government which will come into existence
in Uganda in the near future is the most and ideal form of government
for Ugandans at large.This type of government was there in Sixties at
District level.Districts were combined
> to form REGIONS such as NORTHERN REGION,EASTERN REGION,CENTRAL REGION
andWESTERN REGION.Districts and Regions were absolutely well organized
in terms of Education,Health and Agriculture.In the field of Education,
schools were well organized and service delivery was made perfect.The
REGIONAL TIER will ignite atmosphere of  self determination where
developmental initiatives could be launched by the local people.The
Regional Tier will have its own government plus members of
Parliament.The Party which attains the majority members of Parliament
will rule in the REGIONAL TIER GOVERNMENT.The Districts within the
Region would form their own local governments.The late Dr OBOTE
encouraged and promoted Regional
>Development.It is completely right and fitting now to follow the
footsteps of the late Dr Obote.The commonmans charter of the most
eloquent President in the entire world is being practised in SOUTH
AFRICA yet Ugandans still bicker on REGIONAL
> TIER.It is high time to strengthen the JUDICIARY and EXECUTIVE of
REGIONAL TIER in WESTNILE as a whole.
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>From: Patrick Okuni 
>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Fw: MASU granduation party
>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile ,
>Ombaci OBs 
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>Hi Colleagues
> 
>Thanks for all the humour - I didn't in the least imagine Fr Ruffino's
experience and depth of language on the issue of malua.
> 
>On a more serious note, the MASU guys are for final budgeting right
now, and just called me. They quite tight on funding, even for malua.
Guys, let us show solidarity and participate by sending them some funds
now by MM to 0774 265003. My humble 100K or so should reach them by
> tomorrow. Over to you all?
> 
>Regards
> 
>Patrick
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[WestNileNet] Request

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Administrator,

I am still pressing on for copies of the following documents to be made 
available to members. I made this request more that once, and I did it again on 
27th January 2010. I have decided to paste extract from a previous E-mail 
herein:

"My view is that for one to engage in discussing such imperative issues at 
hand, a good background information is required. Hence, I am requesting the 
leadership of WNF to make documents pertaining Strategic plan, Vision, mission 
statement, and constitution accessible to members; I, for one, have not seen 
such documentations."

Thank you,

Sebastian



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From: Dimba Tabani Patrick 
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Goodmorning Mr Avudria .This is Tabani saying that you have clearly stated the 
problems of Westnile.If members are serious in their deliberations then we as a 
unit will be focussed.
Westnile needs urgent attention regarding deforestation,proper sanitation,early 
childhood education,higher education etc.I Patrick Tabani Dimba fully support 
your line of thinking and orientation.I can only say Bravo Avudria




From: JohnAJackson 
To: westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 6:39:44 AM
Subject: [WestNileNet] Program Coordinator or administrator


Dear Friends.

The issue at hand  for discussion is whether we support the idea of 
getting/hiring Part Time program coordinator/administrator? 

According to the post by the president of WNF, we are all busy professionals in 
our careers, it will take longer time to get the house in oder to register 
WNF.  To coordinate meetings, start paper work for registering WNF, we need a 
dedicated person to start the process immeiately.

Various issues raised below need a coordiante effort in order to achive/deliver 
any tangibale results.
a) Early Childhood Education
b) Improving Quality of Education in Primary and Secondary schools
c) Deforestations, Tree Planting, educating tobacco farmers, etc
d) Water supply systems
e) Hunger, Seed distribution, etc
f) Hugher Education, Masters & PhD, etc
g) Health care Delivery, Public health educations, etc
h) Electricity and energy supply, etc
i) Urban Sanitation and environment management, etc
j) Raid Infrastructure, Bridges, etc
k) Adult Literacy Education

For us to be successful in attempting to address or improve any of these 
issues, we need to consolidate our focus,  above all, some one must be 
committed to work with the WNF executve team.

It is a simple Yes/No 
If you support the idea, please post your commends


Avudria



  
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[WestNileNet] RE: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 22, Issue 10

[Sebastian Owilla]

Hey,

I cannot see the attachment as it was scoured from your E-mail. Please,
repost.

Thank you,

SKO
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[WestNileNet] East African Husbands

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear E-Associates,

I am also seeing in the line of Betty. I think this is a very fertile
area for  research project(s). We need to develop  model to help us
carryout research on the main ethnic groups of East Africa; in this
model we could consider broadening our horizons to include main tribes
in the DRC, DR SS, and Ethiopia. The research findings will actually be
very useful not only to policy makers, Historians, and Tourists, but
also other Scholars.

When the model is built, then we can team to mobilise funding. Certainly
we can do it, besides, this will provide golden opportunities to revisit
our various ethnologies and job opportunities.

Any views?

Sebastian




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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:27:25 +0300
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Betty,

Do research and consider these positions as a hypotheses.

Good luck.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:54 PM, betty wuzu  wrote:

> *THE LUGBAR*
> *He has one wife*
> *He has 0 girlfriends*
> *He loves his job the most.*
>
> Robert Ejiku, Please confirm this.
> I need to research on this though
>
> Betty Wuzu
> Child Helpline Counselor
> Action For Children
> P.O.BOX 25417 Kampala-Uganda
> Plot 110, Lutaaya Drive - Bukoto
> Mobile +256 772 305 966/701 234 405
> Office number +256 414 541 111
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> *From:* Nelly Badaru 
> *To:* judyg...@yahoo.co.uk; Robinah Obitre-Gama ; 
> A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:55 AM
> *Subject:* [WestNileNet] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: East African Husbands
>
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>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Nelson Droruga* 
> Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:43 AM
> Subject: Fw: Fwd: East African Husbands
> To: "izimbajul...@gmail.com" , Rose Droruga < 
> rosedror...@ymail.com>, "aarobi...@gmail.com" , "
> aridruglo...@yahoo.com" ,
"nellybad...@gmail.com"
> 
>
>
>
>   - Forwarded Message -
> *From:* Charles DRORUGA 
> *To:* Nelson Droruga ; Daniel Karibwije < 
> danka...@gmail.com>; Claude Auberson 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:41 AM
> *Subject:* Fwd: East African Husbands
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
>
>*THE EAST AFRICAN HUSBANDS*
>   *THE ACHOLI*
> *... Has one Wife*
> *Has one girlfriend*
> *But he loves his wife the most..*
>
> *The GISHU\KONJO*
> *... Has one wife*
> *Has one girlfriend*
> *But he loves his girlfriend the most.*
>
> *The TESO*
> *Has one wife*
> *Has one girlfriend*
> *But he loves the house maid the most.*
>
> *The BASOGA*
> *Has two wives*
> *Has two girlfriends*
> *He loves the wives sisters the most.*
>
> *THE SAMIAS*
> *Has 1 wife*
> *Has many girlfriends*
> *He loves the house boy the most.*
>
> *The LANGI*
> *Has 2 wives*
> *Has 2 girlfriends*
> *He loves his neighbours wife the most.*
>
> *The BAGANDA*
> *Has one, two, three wives*
> *Has several girlfriends*
> *He loves the barmaid the most.*
>
> *THE BAKIGA*
> *Has one wife*
> *Has many girl friends*
> *He will beat all of them*
>
> *THE BAHIMA/BANYANKOLE*
> *Has one, two wives*
> *Has one girl friend*
> *He loves  his cows the most*
>
> *THE SOMALI'S*
> *has four wives*
> *Has no girl friend*
> *He loves his miraa the most*
>
> *The KARIMOJONG*
> *Has one, two, three wives*
> *Has 0 girlfriends*
> *He loves his neighbours' cows the most?.*
>
> *THE LUGBAR*
> *He has one wife*
> *He has 0 girlfriends*
> *He loves his job the most.*
>
>
> *THE BATOORO*
> *Has one wife*
> *Has 0 girlfriends*
> *He loves his mother in-law the most.*
>
> *THE KIKUYU'S*
> *He has one wife*
> *He has several girlfriends*
> *He loves his car the most.*
>
> *THE BANYORO*
> *He has 2 wives*
> *He has 2 girlfriends*
> *He loves his workmate the most.*
>
> *THE BANYARWANDA*
> *He has one wife*
> *He has 0 girlfriends*
> *He loves his tribesmate the most.*
> **
> *Cheers*
> **
>
>  **
>
>
>
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[WestNileNet] visited hevaen and hell

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear all,

 

"visited hevaen and hell" is a hoax

 

 

http://jesseneo.com/kpop/angelicazambranohoaxtestimony/

 

 

Nice weekend

 

Sebastian

MRC/UVRI Uganda Research Unit on AIDS 
P. O. Box 49, Entebbe, 
UGANDA, East Africa. 

(Office) Tel:+256 41 7704000 or 7704116,Fax: +256 41
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[WestNileNet] our memo/note to the bus operators - Vis-à-vis chains of accidents

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Contemporaries,

 

I agree with the viewpoints of Milton - obtaining statistically defendable 
overall causes/triggers of these frequent accidents, voicing our concern, and 
then putting forth suggestive approaches to decrease on this frequency.

 

While establishing the cause of these accidents, given the skills that we have, 
let us try to talk to the machine operators themselves (I mean drivers,  their 
assistants - oka Turn Boys, and also the mechanics).  Thorough and confidential 
investigative  approach towards this particular segment of the system should 
yield for good data.

 

Keep up

 

Sebastian

 

 

MRC/UVRI Uganda Research Unit on AIDS 
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[WestNileNet] Forging the way forward - Reducing the rate of Bus accidents on K'la Arua high way

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Social Group,

 

Having read from many of your postings, notably from Philips, Mary and
Alice, there is strong conviction that a significant number of
passengers/travellers/commuters  influence some of these accidents that
have claimed innocent and loved ones. So, throwing the blame on others
(either the government, or the bus coys, steering wheel managers,
baggage/luggage manager, park authorities, and many other entities that
cross our way), let us exhaust all possible causes of these accidents
before taking a cohesive response.

 

Imagine a baby or minor who cannot reason in anyway with the bus
management (including drivers) to negotiate on acceptable speed limit
falls victim just because some passengers are happy with over speeding
and teases other passengers/travellers  '... this is Uganda...'. I have
a feeling that some business people/commuters give 'Kitu kidogo' to
drivers to hasten their catching up with some appointments/mipango along
the way. That is why, I think, no stone should be left unturned during
investigative research (if we choose to go that way). This will reveal a
lot about drivers/passengers status quo.

 

I am not amused at hearing such remarks. It sounds like death (which
appears mostly in accidents) knows and respects other nationalities or
perhaps the moto of Uganda is 'Kama mbaya mbaya'. No. That is not true.
'Tu jenge pamoja vilya onekana kisasa'. Mary and Alice do not despair. I
am not surprised given that  anywhere in the world there people who make
such irresponsible comments and are contributors to crime. Otherwise, if
we stood together many accidents would be avoided or there severity
reduced.  

 

I also agree with the views of others that carrying out exhaustive
research would be expensive. In quintessence, there is nothing
absolutely free. The advantage of researched information is it is
objectivity, validity (lasts longest) and can always be referred to by
others. 

 

If we are convinced that memo hinged on researched information is
unaffordable, then we would rather not use memo to voice our concern -
remember this era is what many refer to as information age. There are
many other ways of making us heard without any violence. If ever there
is any need to use violence, it should be the last weapon in our missile
silo. At this point as we progress, it clear we are hurting, but let us
put provoked emotions behind us.

 

As others have said (suggested alterative to use of memo), providing
education/sensitisation  to both commuters and Bus proprietors/companies
is overriding. Many commuters do not know their rights, the laws and
systems of the land. On the other hand, many of these proprietors have
been propelled into business without the fundamentals of business,
ethics and management. So, all in all we need to be helped.

 

There you go.

 

Regards,

 

 

MRC/UVRI Uganda Research Unit on AIDS 
P. O. Box 49, Entebbe, 
UGANDA, East Africa. 

(Office) Tel:+256 41 7704000 or 7704116,Fax: +256 41
4321137 
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(Office) E-mail:  sebastian.owi...@mrcuganda.org
  

 

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[WestNileNet] How much does west nile contribute to this percentage? - Uganda maintains the lead in alcohol drinking.

[Sebastian Owilla]

Very interesting.

 

While members wait for the correct information - statistics (though not
sure of criteria used to determine study sample), I suggest we carry out
inferential stats; and members of this forum become the population. You
will be shocked to learn that about 90% of this population is a habitual
taker of booze (alcohol). The immediate and defensive remarks from most
'culprits' might not be far from these ones  'I only take Club to wash
down' or ' a glass of sweet wine after meal/nyama choma is healthy
drinking'. After these results, we begin to forge ways out how to help
ourselves, then we shall be in position to help others elsewhere.

 

I think West-Nile, Ma'di-Moyo, and Acholi sub-regions combined might
contribute more than 40% of the alcohol drinking population.

 

Find yourself hanging out at Arua Park, trust me, you will see a very
significant number of people there chewing Miraa/Marungi. One can at
least tell where the majority come from.

 

In fact, these sub-regions are sitting on anti-social explosives -  bear
in mind that the HIV/AIDS prevalence which was at 2.3% in early
nineties, 2.7% between  2004 - 2007, and today at 3.7% is a main
contributor. 

 

Great Weekend

 

Sebastian

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[WestNileNet] The 'Sieve' in use unacceptable

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Members,

I think some of us are being too hard on Mr Atibuni Kefa by swaying him
to consider de-registration.

Objectively, we should be accommodative of one another's conflicting
views - look at both or otherwise all sides. It is true we have Sheiks,
Hajis, Hajatis, Priests, Pastors, Nun, Eunuchs and the like on this
forum. But the existence of these people should not crash an E-society
like this forum.

What Kefa posted happened to be the truth and is a little piece of the
many social ills around us which we cannot shy from. I think his
packaging was not very appealing to some members. He has some strong
points to be discussed. His method of communication needs to be attended
to. He is such a nice guy with  some wealth of materials for the
community. We cannot afford to lose people simply because they lack some
required skills in communication. It is actually the responsibility of
this forum to address issues of packaging and consequent communication.
He needs help also, and the earlier the better NOT to force him to
resign for use of 'offensive' materials.

As a regular reader, I often read about materials that could be
interpreted as offensive by some people, thus poisonous to even children
or the under age. To be specific, boozing is unacceptable on religious
grounds. Unfortunately, no pressure had been used to smoke out
presenters. Nobody condemned converging to discuss, drink beer, dance,
and enjoy Nyama choma (chickens or goat or beef or pork). Let us learn
to behave normally and embrace one another. Holy angels live in Heaven
(a Priest/Pastor out there can help me if I am wrong); where we are,  we
all are not perfect regardless of our varying educational levels, but we
need one another.

Please, I request the leadership of this forum to shelf indefinitely
this issue of 'sieving out' Kefa for packaging error.

Best wishes

Sebastian

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Christine, we can now let go of this as Kefa promptly apologized. We
make his apology sound unacceptable by continuing with these arguments..


Good day my sister..

Ejiku

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christine Munduru
wrote:

> Thanks Richard for this comment and the questions you have raised. I 
> really dont think that nobody in this forum is still unaware of these 
> things happening but we are saying, whatever motive this person had, 
> it does not address any of the problems, instead it is a toxic 
> communication, it causes no alarm for anybody in this forum in my 
> view. If we need to sensitize our youth, this kind of packaging is 
> very toxic instead. I would go by Ejiku's comment that it was a 
> mistake, we should accept this was a mistake and should not be done 
> again in this forum instead of defending using lame excuses. As 
> leaders we should stand for something, not fall for everything.
>
> Christine
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Okuti Richard 
wrote:
>
>>  Now some humor to crown this discussion,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Let?s learn and let go personally I feel differently about the 
>> postings especially after being one of the first people to caution 
>> the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media 
>> and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study 
>> and understand before you reach conclusions or share?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Some of the questions that come to mind include;
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **1.   **What was the motive of the photographer?
>>
>> **2.   **Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a
>> public place etc
>>
>> **3.   **Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the
>> minors or parents?
>>
>> **4.   **Many many more queries ?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in 
>> bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love 
>> may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? 

Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 22

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear All,

Informally I have received some details that one of our own is dead -
the pilot. The wife somehow is becoming uneasy about the delays
according to this source. I am going to visit the family and try to
encourage her to remain firm (whether the rumour is true of false).

Most importantly, let God reign now.

Sebastian

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Lets pray hard for them, but God will answer our prayers!
TB

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My God Christine,
?
This is really getting nasty. Two hours it is for updates.
?
Thank you so much.
?
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Robert


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Christine Munduru 
wrote:

Robert it so disheartening. So far, two people are now missing and one
of them is our boy one of the most senior of the pilots,? another
written information I have received indicates two dead bodies found but
not named. we shall get another information in two hours, let us wait to
hear what comes up.
>?
>Christine
>
>
>On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Robert Ejiku 
wrote:
>
>Oh Dear,
>>?
>>This is a sad spectacle befalling us as a country. But this country
has too much explanation to do. 
>>?
>>Thank you for the info. I wont mention the names of a few friends
there for the avoidance of anxiety on my part as well.
>>?
>>Let me pretend they were not even there in the first place.?
>>Ejiku
>>?
>>
>>
>>? 
>>On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Christine Munduru
 wrote:
>>
>>Dear all, this is just to let you know that a number of our home boys
were?some of ?the pilots?of the?helicopters that have been said to have
crushed. We need to keep in prayers and hope that they Lord will keep
them safe. Since they left, one of them had kept in touch with us until
they left Nyanuki and the last time he sent us message was?Sunday night
and?yesterday morning is when we heard the helicopters went missing. The
mood is very sobre in Entebbe and we have not yet received any
conclusive information about the people saved and those missing. But we
have been trying the numbers and a few minutes ago a different
voice?replied?something, we are not sure about it what he said.Let us
keeping praying and hoping for the best.?
>>>Christine
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[WestNileNet] Update on the Heartbreak

[Sebastian Owilla]

The Pilot's other name is Spear. Condolences are being paid (for who are
able to do so).

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These are very close friends whom we waved off on the last day. The one
who has been confirmed alive is  Captain Andruga George Buga who hails
from Koboko and the one has now been confirmed dead is Captain Leti from
Maracha, his famous name, am still trying to get his second name. He was
the most senior pilot we have around and his helicopter is the one that
got burnt completely and the newspaper has also carried the story that
the bodies of the pilots have been recovered and mourners have gathered
at his resident at Bugonga in Entebbe. What a big loss to us, May his
soul rest in peace.

Christine
,
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Acidri Ernest
wrote:

> Thant you for the information. I knew some of those pilots were from 
> West nile. If you get the names, let me have the asap. We are 
> following this story at Radio Pacis.
> Ernest Acidri
> Chief News Editor
>  On 8/14/12, Benard Titre  wrote:
> > Lets pray hard for them, but God will answer our prayers!
> > TB
> >
> >
> > TB.d...Son
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Robert Ejiku 
> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] home boys in missing helicopters
> >
> >
> > My God Christine,
> >
> > This is really getting nasty. Two hours it is for updates.
> >
> > Thank you so much.
> >
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Christine Munduru 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Robert it so disheartening. So far, two people are now missing and 
> > one of them is our boy one of the most senior of the pilots,  
> > another written information I have received indicates two dead 
> > bodies found but not
> named.
> > we shall get another information in two hours, let us wait to hear 
> > what comes up.
> >>
> >>Christine
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Robert Ejiku 
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>Oh Dear,
> >>>
> >>>This is a sad spectacle befalling us as a country. But this country

> >>>has  too much explanation to do.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you for the info. I wont mention the names of a few friends 
> >>>there  for the avoidance of anxiety on my part as well.
> >>>
> >>>Let me pretend they were not even there in the first place.
> >>>Ejiku
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Christine Munduru 
> >>> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Dear all, this is just to let you know that a number of our home 
> >>>boys  were some of  the pilots of the helicopters that have been 
> >>>said to have  crushed. We need to keep in prayers and hope that 
> >>>they Lord will keep  them safe. Since they left, one of them had 
> >>>kept in touch with us until  they left Nyanuki and the last time he

> >>>sent us message was Sunday night  and yesterday morning is when we
heard the helicopters went missing.
> The
> >>> mood is very sobre in Entebbe and we have not yet received any
> conclusive
> >>> information about the people saved and those missing. But we have 
> >>> been trying the numbers and a few minutes ago a different voice 
> >>> replied something, we are not sure about it what he said.Let us 
> >>> keeping praying and hoping for the best.
> Christine
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[WestNileNet] Caution and Update

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear All,

I kindly request you to return to the track - mourn our brothers as we
follow up on issues related, and also other things. It is true our
cultural models permit expression of emotions, poke some uncertainties
that might reveal most probable causes of death, and in some cases
people even fight physically where some people get hurt. Though,
unscientific, they have  endured  the test of time and we should be
applauded. However, our elders usually would come up and restrain any
wild flares of tampers. So, please, let us remain cool.

To add on to Christine's contribution regarding the update on burial
arrangements, after memorial services in Kenya, the bodies will be
transported to Bombo in Uganda, and then to the Parliament. Finally,
each family will receive the bodies of their loved ones and with the
help of the UPDF, burial would proceed.

Anybody with an update can help us.

Please, stop commenting too much on personal views. That is how
sometimes we mourn - blaming others etc.

Let us be in prayers as we mourn.

Sebastian 


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I have the notes of Christine. I am very annoyed. Those were officers of
the UPDF air force. Forget about their being your brothers from West
Nile and close friends. And Capt Leti is from Maracha, my home area!
What Caleb wrote was fair although his tone is suggesting some thing. I
am not an expert, but there is something fishy in the whole accident
scenario. The Kenyans duped the UPDF officers, the men who crash landed
the choppers  and those who planned the trip must be investigated. Death
in action is OK for a soldier. If they guys had died in the fashion of
Kazini, it would be bad for me. Those are heros and i know Gen Saleh
team will expose the sabotage or no sabotage theory.
ACIDRI Ernest
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, David Olema
wrote:

> Dear all, every death is a tragedy and new experience. That is how 
> death is supposed to me a mystery and it always brings grief and pain.

> In our Lugbara culture we always believe people do not just die like 
> that, someone somewhere must have played a part. I take that as part 
> of the cultural mourning, so please let us tolerate each other as we 
> mourn our brother and other Ugandans on this platform. No exchange of
unpleasant words here!
> Allow people to freely mourn!!
>
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> *From:* Christine Munduru 
> *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 16 August 2012, 11:46
> *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 35
>
> Caleb I think you have gone so trivial, I cannot  believe that you 
> even reduce yourself to talk such things, it will be a waste of my 
> time to debate this with you. I didnt know these people only at the 
> time I waved them, they have been our long term friends in Entebbe, 
> please focus on better discussions, such things say alot about you 
> Christine
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Caleb Alaka
wrote:
>
>  Milton, thanks for talking from an informed point of view. That 
> apart, Lets up the quality of our debate. Yes, why should we imagine 
> that Uganda would deliberately plan that accident. Do we know the cost

> of training a pilot at the rank of a Captain. Who would wish to train 
> some one for over ten years just to kill such a person. Yes, it is 
> morally right to feel pains of the death of these Brothers, however, 
> let's not attempt to be more of a catholic than the Pope. Uganda is at

> a larger pain than us. May be ours is about the fact that these were 
> our neighbors in Entebbe. May be we happened to have merely waved to 
> them before they left. For Uganda, these were officers of the Uganda 
> People's Defence Forces. These were guys going to fight terrorists, 
> these were well trained persons entrusted to defend Ugandans. Let's 
> for once apprecia

[WestNileNet] No more dust needed. Please!!!

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Friends,

I thought the dust has settled. David Idoru why are you taking people
backwards. You know Christine's E-mail address why do you not use it and
sort things out with her. Why do you want to force an individual's  view
on the rest?

Let look forward as we gently walk together.

Sebastian

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May be I lacked career guidance just like most of us did but we have to
gamble this life most of the times.

I would be glad to see atleast the body of our brother, it is more
painful not to see and only believe that somebody is gone.
DMO that would be good news if all the bodies are on board.

Christine

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:33 AM, David Idoru 
wrote:

> Thanks Christine. Excellent job and keep it up. We appreciate the
updates.
>
> Just a thought, don't you think you will make an excellent journalist?

> In my opinion, you are in the wrong profession. Think about it,
>
> Regards
>
> David Idoru
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> On Aug 17, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Christine Munduru 
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>
> > Dear members, with more sadness we learnt yesterday that the body of
> Capt. Leti is not the one that was assumed to be. His flight engineer 
> had put on the similar flying suit and when this body was got outside 
> and the pilot was not in his place, it was quickly concluded he was 
> the one. But when the bodies were taken to hospital, it was discovered

> he was not the one and he was not expected to burn with his crew. This

> has now become a sad mystery but let us wait if the story changes 
> again today. Elven of the
> 14 survivors arrived safe yesterday and they also confirmed to us
Capt.
> Leti's body is not among the recovered. Three of the flight engineers 
> were taken back to the seen and they were the ones who recovered the 
> remaing bodies.
> > They will appear for investigations from 9am this morning and we 
> > hope
> that they will be released to relax later. The rest of the bodies are 
> said to be coming today but they will be taken direct to Bombo incase 
> they arrive and burial arrangements will be announced after that. I 
> would like to emphasize a caveat here that this is the version as of 
> midnight last night, if somebody has a newer version can update 
> because things of the army change any time.
> >
> > After listening to many technical persons in the field, the story is
> almost complete, and I maintain my postion.
> >
> > Christine
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[WestNileNet] turmoil in Gulu University

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear All,

 

This is to inform you that Gulu University in Gulu is on fire.

 

Brothers and sisters if you have any student  there, please get in
touch. I am appealing to some of you who are in positions of influence
try and dig out the truth about the rot in this institution and make it
know to Ugandans.  I have not seen any of these things brought out by
the media.

 

Help!!!

 

Nice weekend

 

Sebastian

 

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[WestNileNet] turmoil in Gulu University

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Ronald,

I am sorry for having been unclear.

The point is here is that Gulu University has been engulfed in gross
misunderstanding between the Administration and the students'
representative the Guild. students on government sponsorship addressed
their grievances regarding the 210,000/= monthly support which they
reasoned it was not enough. These 210,000/= is intended to meet rent,
food, and other scholastic requirements. For instance, those pursuing
disciplines in Agriculture spent 3,000/= on the minimum for photocopies
alone.

The Guild alleges that the University Administration is not being fare
to students and that  the Administration should consider increasing
students allowances. Unfortunately, the Administration seem to be
adamant; consequently, the students are unhappy. On Monday 22nd October
2012 the Guild will lead a peaceful procession to the VC with the aim of
submitting its resignation.

Given the gun shots that rocked the campus this morning and is still
going on, the worst might occur if no arbitration by a neutral body is
done. The Police is using live ammunition to scare away students because
(may be) tear gas could not quell the situation.

Please, let me know where you need clarification. Ugandans demand
accountability and balanced media coverage.

The following are Guild officials you can talk to:
1.  The Guild President (Akena) on  0775549101
2.  Students' Representative to Senate (Odama Roy) on 0774625885
3.  Guild Speaker (Nobert) on 0790424473/0775495431
 
Best wishes,

Sebastian

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Dear All,

 

This is to inform you that Gulu University in Gulu is on fire.

 

Brothers and sisters if you have any student  there, please get in
touch. I am appealing to some of you who are in positions of influence
try and dig out the truth about the rot in this institution and make it
know to Ugandans.  I have not seen any of these things brought out by
the media.

 

Help!!!

 

Nice weekend

 

Sebastian

 

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What is happening? Your not communicating in away that can be
understood. Gulu on fire means what? what is that media has not brought
out as you expected? Tell us


?
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: [WestNileNet] turmoil in Gulu University
 

Dear All,
?
This is to inform you that Gulu University in Gulu is on fire.
?
Brothers and sisters if you have any student? there, please get in
touch. I am appealing to some of you who are in positions of influence
try and dig out the truth about the rot in this institution an

[WestNileNet] Crime committed by Christine Munduru

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Ndugu Kigundu,

Some of us feel so low when we do not hear from people like Christine.
What really happened? I thought equipment in IT do not muse! What is
Madam Munduru's 'crime'? Please, restore her so that we do not miss her
flavour on the net.

Thank you,

Sebastian

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Fwd: Jobline (Many openings) - Mbarara Nile   Breweries
  (Maandera)
   2. Re: For those who might not be aware - Commonwealth
  scholarships (Maandera)
   3. Re: Fwd: Jobline (Many openings) - Mbarara Nile   Breweries
  (Vasco Oguzua)


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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:22:47 +0400
From: Maandera 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fwd: Jobline (Many openings) - Mbarara Nile
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Hi Kiggundu,

I would like to echo Vasco's concern about Christine Munduru's continued
blockage from the WNN.


You usually respond very fast - sometimes just with the word "done"  -
to requests for getting people into the net or indeed for re-instating
them.
Why is this one taking so long?

In the spirit of openness and freedom of expression, it is my hope that
this technical problem will be addressed soon.

Maandera

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Vasco Oguzua  wrote:

> Kiggundu,
>
> I sent you a request a few weeks ago about activating Christine 
> Munduru's account which is deactivated and I have not heard any 
> response from you about the issue. May I know if my request was 
> honoured or not. If you did correct that error I will appreciate your 
> effort, but if you have not activated her membership in the forum, may

> I know what is the reason behind locking her out of the forum. As you 
> are the administrator of the forum I think it is only you who can 
> answer to why some people are locked out while some are allowed. If it

> is a technical problem may I know what technical problem would enable 
> her e-mail address in the membership list to be commented out. I saw 
> her name in the e-mail address in the membership list is commented out
with a bracket.
>
> May I again please request you to activitate her e-mail address in the

> membership list so that she can participate in the discussions on this

> forum.
>
> Looking forward to your positive response.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Vasco
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Kiggundu Mukasa 
wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Ronald KAKUBA 
>> *Subject: **Jobline (Many openings) - Mbarara Nile Breweries*
>> *Date: *October 19, 2012 11:06:21 AM GMT+03:00
>>
>> In case you know guys interested
>>
>>
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If you know anyone who might benefit:
Have a look here
http://cscuk.dfid.gov.uk/apply/





On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:15 AM, aliti candia 
wrote:

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> Dear colleagues,
> PLEASE get a copy of the 

[WestNileNet] Marriage and Divorce Bill

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Colleagues,

It is clear that our Parliamentarians are away to meet and consult their 
constituencies on the above mentioned subject.  At this stage, I suggest we 
request an update from each of the MPs hailing from our districts so that we 
remain in-touch. Where required, we could work with the honourable MPs so as 
make their work easier the obtain the correct data. This is because some of you 
are in better positions - on the ground.

Would it be a good idea if we request these MPs to communicate to us updates 
through this forum  westnilenet@kym.net?

Take on from there if the subject is interesting.

Thank you,

Sebastian

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[WestNileNet] The Hunt For J Kony (Acidri Ernest)

[Sebastian Owilla]

Just to react to Mr Acidri Ernest's post implying there are some people on this 
forum who are collaborating with  Kony (not sure whether he is referring to 
Joseph Kony or another Kony). Whichever Kony he had in mind, the name Kony is 
quite sensitive.

I concur with Caleb.

Acidri Ernest, please be careful of your words. In P.5 I once read a story 
teaching readers to 'Think before acting'. Your post, if taken seriously by the 
law enforcement organs around the globe (FYI this forum is OnLine). You are 
actually creating problems to all of us on this net. The next thing that might 
happen is for one of these organs to demand the guys manning this network to 
extract all your relevant contact data. And the end might be far from then.

You are even planning on how to spend this price!!

My advice to you is that you retract your E-mail(s) with apologies to the 
management of WNF.

Otherwise, nobody would wish to intimidate others; we should protect ourselves 
as much as possible.

Thank you for being a responsible and law abiding son of the soil.

Sebastian


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[WestNileNet] Muni University

[Sebastian Owilla]

Colleagues,

The Ma'di have a saying 'aringua koleci ri oza driso kole kuru ri'bati ra'  
which would be translated as ' a bird caught in a trap is worth more than those 
still at large'.

My view is that we should be grateful to what we have at hand. Let us use it as 
we come up with ways of improvement. Please understand that West Nilers and 
their sub-region seem to have been blacklisted and might continue to be 
subjected to long term neglect by the responsible institution(s). A  few 
misguided, greedy, corrupt  and opportunistically focused sons and daughters of 
the soil are also causing serious havoc to our people. Together with others who 
can afford University education elsewhere, they send their children away from 
that 'curse' mass of land. Do you know what the people went through from 
October 1980 - 1987? The 'Inya madri ku' which worked against West Nilers 
followed them even into Sudan and then brought them back.

In brief, let us embrace Muni University and do not try to compare nor contrast 
any of these universities for they are not the same.  Ideally Muni NTC should 
not have been converted in to a University. We need a new thing in a new 
environment - we have the land and the local support.

Cheers.

Sebastian


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[WestNileNet] Walking the talk to Muni University

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Colleagues,

It is true that quite a lot has been discussed and it is like time for 
implementation is long overdue. I can sense that  some people are losing hope 
and might, hold back, in future discussion. I wish to take sides:  I agree that 
we need to do something now, else we shall never.
On the other hand, West Nile, just like other regions needs 
economic revival. I hear about gone days (between 1960 - 1980) during which 
hard work was proven. Custodians of our taxes were trustworthy. They, to a 
larger extent, cared for all the civil servants. Consequently, security, 
health, education, and many other sectors of productivity took better shape. 
Which was why a pupil sitting for PLE in Arua public or Moyo Girls would choose 
and make it to either Gayaza or Sir Samuel Baker (later known as Pongdwongo). 
There was no need for a parent to go to an HM to 'beg' for vacancy. You just 
wait for your acceptance letter by the postal services. Today the sort of 
system of governance we are in is tending towards capitalism.

I have no problem with what one does to earn a living; as long as it is morally 
acceptable; we should encourage our people to work as really they are hard 
working. Once upon a time, most Ma'di people sniggered the lugbara  communities 
who migrated and settled among them. Generally the Lugbara women took to 
business of selling food and other merchandises. While most Ma'di women engaged 
in the 'brewery industries' producing pkhete, wiri, nguli, etc. The Ma'di woman 
brewing and earning a living from it, consoled herself that she was better than 
a 'Lubwari zi' living by doing some businesses (selling tea, sumbusa, mandazi 
etc). And I think the Lugbara women on their part had good reasons not to take 
on the 'industry' of the Ma'di women. Each was right and at the same time 
wrong. Today the trend seems to be duplicating itself across regions: the 
majority of the private security guards come from either West Nile, Northern 
region or Lango and Teso sub regions. Most of the workers in the sugar and tea 
plantations come from the same areas.

I love my people and value what they do to honestly earn their living. My 
problem is in the situation where the hard-earned money does not get 
re-invested. Our people are very innovative and look forward to a better 
future. This was exhibited in coming up with CUCUA, and ERO. While the Lugbara 
people had both Ero and Cucua, the Ma'di people only depended on ero. In 
capitalism, consideration should be made for continued investments, not 
consuming profits. Check how you spend your money!!!

The point I am making is that the advent of capitalism comes with challenges 
and the prices have to be paid. We need either to improve on our existing 
economic activities, or phase out the obsolete ones and adopt rather newer 
alternatives. Perceptions have to change and then take advantage of every 
opportunity to etch out economic values which then can be translated in to real 
cash. Without economic empowerment, the sour, otherwise bitter side of life 
will be the only alternative. This includes journey to Muni University. It is 
near us, but going there requires money. Not just money to enter University, 
but money to go through pre-primary education, primary, and secondary 
education. Some of you know what I am taking about. The current form of UPE 
will never lay a good foundation in our children for competitive tertiary 
institution. Most of the schools we have in West Nile are depending the already 
failing UPE - misplaced hope. What the people in this forum could do is to use 
the governance system already in place to suggest, but not authorise changes. 
The system is like a pyramid - the rule is by the top not bottom. The private 
sector thrives better that the public. That is why we need investors.  A 
teacher hired to work in a private school in most cases deliver; however, those 
on the government pay roll will not deliver - the assumption is that all 
graduated from EREPI TTC .

In conclusion, approach should be economic empowerment so that we can afford to 
send our children to schools were teachers are well motivated.

Back to you.

Sebastian


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Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 64, Issue 8

[Sebastian Owilla]

Keep them flowing Kiggundu and nice weekend

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   1. Hilarious Friday (Kiggundu Mukasa)


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Start your Friday with rib cracking laughter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9033vOYOYs&feature=youtu.be


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[WestNileNet] Party for in-coming and Out-going RDCs for Arua district

[Sebastian Owilla]

Colleagues,

My view is we should have one celebration party for the two VIPs in the office 
of the RDC in Arua. At the same party, we shall welcome Mr DEBELE, and also bid 
farewell to Mr ABIRIGA. Brothers and sisters, at this stage,  we should work 
towards unifying our people who have been divided by selfish 'leaders', hence 
it does not matter which political party one subscribes to. When I am paying my 
taxes, I pay to the government of Uganda (my custodian), NOT NRM. When the my 
taxes are being misused, it is my hard-earned money being wasted not NRM money.

I do not agree with others who seem to imply that the out-going RDC does not 
deserve applause.

Let the district leadership committee draw a budget and then reach out all 
well-wishers (not necessarily Westi Nilers or Arua district for that matter).  
Invite district Leaders to grace this party. Eminent  invited guests should 
come from all the religions, all political parties, opinion leaders, the 
disadvantaged groups and others.

Regarding funding, certainly the core funding should come from the district.

Cheers!!

Sebastian


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[WestNileNet] Keeping within the lane

[Sebastian Owilla]

Character of an opportunistic Conspirator - MP

Some people now, for unknown reasons to some of us, are becoming provocative. 
Imagine statements like 'M7 is not a bad person.', and 'It is the ... who are 
tarnishing d image of ...'

Let us focus on our sister Hon. Anite, not our president so as to help our 
people some of whom are looking at Honourable Anite as a role model. Let those 
who think M7 is bad person hold on to their view, and those who think our 
President is a good should not sell that to others on this forum. Let us not in 
any way weigh Hon. Anite against His Excellency. However, let our sister be 
'admonished ' by her own.

Cheers!

Sebastian

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[WestNileNet] Unrest in KajoKeji subcounty in the South Sudan, Moyo, and Metu subcounties in Uganda

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Comrades,

I am drawing your attention to what is going on in the above mentioned 
locations. For some of you who do not know the Geography of Uganda and South 
Sudan very well, it is time to go Google.com

Many of you are aware of what happened to officials on Uganda government duties 
during the census taking period, and since then, the sub region has seen the 
worst of mass exodus since the era of UNLA/F. The Ma'di people are being chased 
from one place to another within their own country. Properties are being 
destroyed, economic activities are being hampered, social services schools and 
health are seriously being affected. Lives are being lost, agricultural  are 
being disrupted thus leading to famine, also resulting to health risks. So far 
it is estimated that over 20 Ugandans have died, several are nursing severe 
injuries ranging from machete cuts to gun shots. The question is: where is the 
Uganda police? Where is the UPDF? Where are the reserved forces trained to 
protect Ugandans? 

Unfortunately, office of the RDC in Moyo is being snubbed by the Ugandan 
security forces in the area. The police in Moyo are protecting properties of 
the fleeing South Sudanese traders, and few  scared Ugandan traders; but not 
dear lives of Ugandans in Moyo being pursued by the South Sudanese from 
KajoKeji. The police even go extra mile by arresting the locals who have armed 
themselves with local weapons for self-defence because the police and the UPDF 
are looking on as the Ma'di are attacked by the marauding forces from South 
Sudan. Tax payers whose taxes are spent on the police and UPDF  do not get 
required services. 

One wonders why the  Ma'di people are being rewarded as thus.

Briefly, this is what reliable sources have:
Eria  (Moyo):3 people have been hacked dead. Several people, including 
children, burned in their huts as their huts were torched  South Sudanese 
locals accompanied by either police or solders. Hundreds of cattle, goats and 
sheep were looted, and taken to Southern Sudan. Schools have closed down 
unofficially in the most affected areas like Goopi in Metu, and Eria in Moyo.

Goopi (Metu):   At least 30 huts were burnt down by the Kuku from KajoKeji sub 
county. Hundreds and fleeing to Metu division headquarters. This migh not save 
the Ma'di from the approaching Kuku people who are advancing. According to the 
locals who are now systematically targeted and are taking refuge in their own 
country Uganda, the 'forces' are looking forward to 'taking over' Nyojjo 
(division head quarters of Metu), and they said they will establish their camp 
at Metu Secondary School.

Logo'ba (Moyo):   several houses were razed . At least one man sustained 
serious cut in the face and is now receiving treatment.

Opiro, and Perego villages (Moyo):  The residents here are extremely scared and 
are contemplating to flee. Opiro is separated from Goopi by a range of hills 
stretching from KajoKeji subcounty in South Sudan. Perego village is adjacent 
to Opiro. Local source hinted that the Kuku people claimed they were coming for 
their cows in Madda. Madda is a village grazing ground for the Perego people.

This crime should be stopped. Area leaders perpetrating/condoning such acts of 
human right abuse should be identified and face criminal tribunal. Please, if 
you have any information that you think might be useful, serve the  comrades. 
The two governments have tasks to accomplish.

For God And My Country

Kidega

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[WestNileNet] Mr Hussein Amin' s publications

[Sebastian Owilla]

Dear Comrades,

Personally I do not see anything wrong with publications such as being posted 
on the internet- accurately this forum.

While there could be many reasons why writers express themselves, for now I 
zero on one. Writing correct history. Most of the enemies of rise of Africa 
have systematically portray very bad picture of the continent, not only bad but 
in most cases false. Unfortunately, some of us are collaborators of these 
enemies and have capitalized on lies. Today most Ugandans have been 'fed' to 
think that true Uganda existed from 1986. 

Uganda of the 1971-1978 is has 'Demonised'- if one travelled this would not be 
a story. What used to be called Nile Province has continued to suffer mainly 
due to misrepresentation.

I was very shocked on the day we received our first born. A woman asked me 
'when are you going to eat this one '.

I thought I misunderstood her. May be she meant when I would give her into 
marriage and then stock some wealth from bridal dowry. When pressed, she told 
me that they had been brought up to know that the 'Banyongo' eat their first 
born. Now my daughter is 21 years old but has not been scheduled for eating.

Hussein and others, do correct the wrong notion in the society.

Please, if you think what some people are revealing is not true, prove 
yourself. Else if, for some reasons, you have no interest in them, make use of 
your Delete key/button on your device - just TRASH.

God Bless you.

Sebastian



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   1. Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 83, Issue 6 (Peter Odama)


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When will this forum switch to a better developmental agenda?  Let's swift from 
analogue to digital sustainable economic speech, the old stories will never be 
good again concentrate on current matters On Jul 16, 2015 10:32 PM, "Margaret 
Akulia"  wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
>
>
> Don't worry. There is a purpose to Hussein's writings. They are part 
> of a colossal Jigsaw Puzzle!! A little while longer and the pieces 
> that currently sound like ramblings will crystallize. I don't think it 
> will be much longer actually!! Bear with him for now.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Akulia
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:18 AM,  wrote:
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>>1. Re: HOW ONE LAWOKO NIGHT-DANCES ON ARCHBISHOPS GRAVE.
>>   (Hussein Amin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:17:32 +0300
>> From: Hussein Amin 
>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile 
>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] HOW ONE LAWOKO NIGHT-DANCES ON ARCHBISHOPS
>> GRAVE.
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>> Dear Richard,
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.
>>
>> However, this isn't the only forum where I publish.
>> On Jul 15, 2015 1:05 PM, "Richard Okuti"  wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Hussein,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I read your mails with a lot of interest and sometimes wonder what 
>> > you will achieve as an individual, many times many have a romantic 
>> > view of
>> our
>> > history or say/believe what is presented to them in the most 
>> > compelling manner.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > First of all, I would like you to let the past rest and save 
>> > yourself
>> the
>> > pain of sharing the facts which may not reach many audiences 
>> > because
>> this
>> > may in tern occupy your valuable life time without significa