Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Hi Christine and dear folks, More districts (or regions) this time round "voted" the Yellow Bus. The logic and or the net result? The portions of the cake may have become much smaller. More so, the traditional Yellow Bus voters will even claim more rights to have the biggest shares of the cake or have it all for themselves since there is no more need to dangle the cake to flirt West Nile into voting the Yellow Bus. Aggrey Adrale --- On Tue, 6/9/11, Christine Munduru wrote: From: Christine Munduru Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! To: "Acidri David Onzima" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Tuesday, 6 September, 2011, 20:21 Dear all, If I can remember very well, Electricity in west nile was high on the agenda of Hon. Aridru's campaign manifesto, could he kindly update us on how he is moving on with the plans towards this, otherwise the president's statements seems to say a different thing. I also show many people rejoicing that this time west nile voted the yellow bus and therefore was going to get a good share of the cake. Can these people assure us of the position of west nile in the development agenda for the country Thanks Christine On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Acidri David Onzima wrote: Dear all As one of my colleagues drove from Zombo towards Paidha nearly three months ago, he had a deliberate stop over at Nyagak to assure himself of the work that is being done at the site. In a discuss that followed, he seemed to indicate that some tangible work has and continues to be done to ensure that the project is completed in the very near future. This could be a misleading statement since this guy is not a technocrat in that field. We are all no doubt concerned about the delays in the completion of this project that will surely ingnite many more projects in the region. I want to suggest that let some technocrats amidst us who have planned trips to Arua, Nebbi or Zombo spare a couple of hours to reach the project site, assure themselves of the developments there and report to us in this forum. Once this is done, we can then contructively discuss it and hopefully get a way forward. We could be dwelling on this issue based on a position a year ago! In the meantime, could Eng Afi update us on the current stage of completion of this project. Over to you Acidri David Onzima From: Leone Iga. Mawa To: milburga atcero ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Dear Colleagues, I salute you all for the discussions and am well pleased for the heartfelt expressions over the issues of our region. It is quite unlikely that there will be equity in development knowing what it takes to achieve it when such necessary social amenities are either being denied or politicized every time we raise our voices or someone else comes with an option for a solution. Equally it is ridiculous in my view too when we are made to develop a mental model of believing any 'development program government brings, to receiving favor from a leader'. I agree with you discussants on this matter. We are not beggars but children of one family Uganda and we deserve equal treatment. Those of us in the yellow bus, take these issues very objectively and understand that it is not about gratification and praising individuals when things are done to us, but believing in the justice of our cause, that West Nile must compete favourably in terms of development like it is Mbarara and other parts of the region. Am not in anyway against any Leader(s), I love them because they are fellow Ugandans and they should not cause pain to hearts of fellow citizens. We have such a very enormous potential for Growth & Development given Electricity in the region. My question is, "What is the way forward despite all futile efforts being made to demand for this power?", As the saying goes-"WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY" . What is left of us friends as we crave for this right? Leone Mawa Nairobi-Ken. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: hi From: alex free To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Hello Madam Ayikoru, Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear all, If I can remember very well, Electricity in west nile was high on the agenda of Hon. Aridru's campaign manifesto, could he kindly update us on how he is moving on with the plans towards this, otherwise the president's statements seems to say a different thing. I also show many people rejoicing that this time west nile voted the yellow bus and therefore was going to get a good share of the cake. Can these people assure us of the position of west nile in the development agenda for the country Thanks Christine On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Acidri David Onzima wrote: > Dear all > > As one of my colleagues drove from Zombo towards Paidha nearly three months > ago, he had a deliberate stop over at Nyagak to assure himself of the work > that is being done at the site. In a discuss that followed, he seemed to > indicate that some tangible work has and continues to be done to ensure that > the project is completed in the very near future. This could be a misleading > statement since this guy is not a technocrat in that field. > > We are all no doubt concerned about the delays in the completion of this > project that will surely ingnite many more projects in the region. I want to > suggest that let some technocrats amidst us who have planned trips to Arua, > Nebbi or Zombo spare a couple of hours to reach the project site, assure > themselves of the developments there and report to us in this forum. > Once this is done, we can then contructively discuss it and hopefully get a > way forward. We could be dwelling on this issue based on a position a year > ago! In the meantime, could Eng Afi update us on the current stage of > completion of this project. > > Over to you > > Acidri David Onzima > > > *From:* Leone Iga. Mawa > *To:* milburga atcero ; A Virtual Network for friends > of West Nile > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:21 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > Dear Colleagues, > > I salute you all for the discussions and am well pleased for the heartfelt > expressions over the issues of our region. It is quite unlikely that there > will be equity in development knowing what it takes to achieve it when such > necessary social amenities are either being denied or politicized every time > we raise our voices or someone else comes with an option for a solution. > Equally it is ridiculous in my view too when we are made to develop a mental > model of believing any 'development program government brings, to receiving > favor from a leader'. I agree with you discussants on this matter. We are > not beggars but children of one family Uganda and we deserve equal > treatment. Those of us in the yellow bus, take these issues very objectively > and understand that it is not about gratification and praising individuals > when things are done to us, but believing in the justice of our cause, that > West Nile must compete favourably in terms of development like it is Mbarara > and other parts of the region. Am not in anyway against any Leader(s), I > love them because they are fellow Ugandans and they should not cause pain to > hearts of fellow citizens. > > We have such a very enormous potential for Growth & Development given > Electricity in the region. My question is, "What is the way forward despite > all futile efforts being made to demand for this power?", As the saying > goes-"WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY" . What is left of us friends as > we crave for this right? > > Leone Mawa > Nairobi-Ken. > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: > > hi > *From:* alex free > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > Hello Madam Ayikoru, > > Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at > you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air > because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not > just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think > about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine > was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to > Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than > Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no > need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 > million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. > On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us > know including my friend whose life was later endangered because
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear all As one of my colleagues drove from Zombo towards Paidha nearly three months ago, he had a deliberate stop over at Nyagak to assure himself of the work that is being done at the site. In a discuss that followed, he seemed to indicate that some tangible work has and continues to be done to ensure that the project is completed in the very near future. This could be a misleading statement since this guy is not a technocrat in that field. We are all no doubt concerned about the delays in the completion of this project that will surely ingnite many more projects in the region. I want to suggest that let some technocrats amidst us who have planned trips to Arua, Nebbi or Zombo spare a couple of hours to reach the project site, assure themselves of the developments there and report to us in this forum. Once this is done, we can then contructively discuss it and hopefully get a way forward. We could be dwelling on this issue based on a position a year ago! In the meantime, could Eng Afi update us on the current stage of completion of this project. Over to you Acidri David Onzima From: Leone Iga. Mawa To: milburga atcero ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Dear Colleagues, I salute you all for the discussions and am well pleased for the heartfelt expressions over the issues of our region. It is quite unlikely that there will be equity in development knowing what it takes to achieve it when such necessary social amenities are either being denied or politicized every time we raise our voices or someone else comes with an option for a solution. Equally it is ridiculous in my view too when we are made to develop a mental model of believing any 'development program government brings, to receiving favor from a leader'. I agree with you discussants on this matter. We are not beggars but children of one family Uganda and we deserve equal treatment. Those of us in the yellow bus, take these issues very objectively and understand that it is not about gratification and praising individuals when things are done to us, but believing in the justice of our cause, that West Nile must compete favourably in terms of development like it is Mbarara and other parts of the region. Am not in anyway against any Leader(s), I love them because they are fellow Ugandans and they should not cause pain to hearts of fellow citizens. We have such a very enormous potential for Growth & Development given Electricity in the region. My question is, "What is the way forward despite all futile efforts being made to demand for this power?", As the saying goes-"WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY" . What is left of us friends as we crave for this right? Leone Mawa Nairobi-Ken. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: hi > >From: alex free >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM >Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > >Hello Madam Ayikoru, > > >Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at >you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because >they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you >wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of >power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear >that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other >neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk >loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In >2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build >Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I >don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my >friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to >suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. >God bless you, >Andrua > > > > > > > >On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: > >Dear Mr. Andrua, >> >>Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non >>paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done >>in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly >>intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer t
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear Colleagues, I salute you all for the discussions and am well pleased for the heartfelt expressions over the issues of our region. It is quite unlikely that there will be equity in development knowing what it takes to achieve it when such necessary social amenities are either being denied or politicized every time we raise our voices or someone else comes with an option for a solution. Equally it is ridiculous in my view too when we are made to develop a mental model of believing any 'development program government brings, to receiving favor from a leader'. I agree with you discussants on this matter. We are not beggars but children of one family Uganda and we deserve equal treatment. Those of us in the yellow bus, take these issues very objectively and understand that it is not about gratification and praising individuals when things are done to us, but believing in the justice of our cause, that West Nile must compete favourably in terms of development like it is Mbarara and other parts of the region. Am not in anyway against any Leader(s), I love them because they are fellow Ugandans and they should not cause pain to hearts of fellow citizens. We have such a very enormous potential for Growth & Development given Electricity in the region. My question is, "What is the way forward despite all futile efforts being made to demand for this power?", As the saying goes-"WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY" . What is left of us friends as we crave for this right? Leone Mawa Nairobi-Ken. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: > hi > -- > *From:* alex free > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > Hello Madam Ayikoru, > > Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at > you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air > because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not > just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think > about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine > was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to > Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than > Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no > need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 > million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. > On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us > know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the > last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped > Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that > with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we > have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, > nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. > God bless you, > Andrua > > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: > > Dear Mr. Andrua, > > Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, > non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've > done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly > intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted > commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the > first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which > is such a shame. > > Have a great week. > > Maureen Ayikoru > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow > bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a > symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic > political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders > act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, > it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understand
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Hey, Where, and what was the consumption capacity in Uganda for the British to put up Owen falls dam on River Nile? Please some body help me here. Minus steady, affordable and well distributed energy, its simply a waste of energy talking of meaningful development. West Nile Power Shall always be a Political Lullaby for West Nile! Gilbert From: ERIMA ROBERT To: milburga atcero ; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Dear all we realy need a 24 hour uninterupted power for our own develp. thankyou all Erima On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: hi > >From: alex free >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM >Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > >Hello Madam Ayikoru, > > >Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at >you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because >they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you >wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of >power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear >that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other >neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk >loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In >2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build >Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I >don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my >friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to >suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. >God bless you, >Andrua > > > > > > > >On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: > >Dear Mr. Andrua, >> >>Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non >>paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done >>in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly >>intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted >>commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the >>first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which >>is such a shame. >> >>Have a great week. >> >>Maureen Ayikoru >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >> >>On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: >> >>> Dear Brothers and Sisters, >>> >>> >>> Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine >>> Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called >>> yellow bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus >>> is a symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a >>> paternalistic political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon >>> etc, the leaders act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected >>> or something else, it is seen as a favour from the big person and the >>> citizens where such a development takes place are supposed to be grateful >>> and see the figure of that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, >>> dear Maurine, is not what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason >>> why most of the times people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a >>> different direction. The normal understanding is that it is taxes which >>> everybody pays which bring in those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese >>> or Abim to have electricity or clean running wat >> er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the >>citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of >>paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members >>of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, >>why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, >>as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? >>> Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so >&
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear all we realy need a 24 hour uninterupted power for our own develp. thankyou all Erima On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, milburga atcero wrote: > hi > -- > *From:* alex free > *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > > Hello Madam Ayikoru, > > Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at > you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air > because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not > just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think > about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine > was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to > Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than > Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no > need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 > million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. > On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us > know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the > last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped > Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that > with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we > have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, > nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. > God bless you, > Andrua > > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: > > Dear Mr. Andrua, > > Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, > non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've > done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly > intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted > commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the > first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which > is such a shame. > > Have a great week. > > Maureen Ayikoru > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow > bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a > symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic > political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders > act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, > it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or > clean running wat > er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the > citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of > paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other > members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily > living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? > Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to > us? > > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what > so ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > development of science, etc! > > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should > avoid cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be > silenced about our rights! > > > > Andrua > >
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hi From: alex free <freeal...@gmail.com> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Hello Madam Ayikoru, Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. God bless you, Andrua On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru <ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Dear Mr. Andrua, > >Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which is such a shame. > >Have a great week. > >Maureen Ayikoru > >Sent from my iPhone > > >On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free <freeal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Brothers and Sisters, >> >> >> Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or clean running wat > er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? >> Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, development of science, etc! >> I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, cooking, students use for reading, etc. >> Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced about our rights! >> >> Andrua >> ___ >> WestNileNet mailing list >> WestNileNet@kym.net >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> All Archives can be foun
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hi From: alex free <freeal...@gmail.com> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! Hello Madam Ayikoru, Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. God bless you, Andrua On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru <ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Dear Mr. Andrua, > >Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which is such a shame. > >Have a great week. > >Maureen Ayikoru > >Sent from my iPhone > > >On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free <freeal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Brothers and Sisters, >> >> >> Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or clean running wat > er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? >> Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, development of science, etc! >> I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, cooking, students use for reading, etc. >> Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced about our rights! >> >> Andrua >> ___ >> WestNileNet mailing list >> WestNileNet@kym.net >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> All Archives can be foun
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear Alex,Adiga etc, Sorry i may interject a bit late.I know when one hears about development more especially electricity related issue many tend to get mad because it is a chronic wound that easily inflicts pain,but i think you misintepreted Ayikoru'message and thanks Ayikoru for you wise analysis.My brother Adiga please try to go back to Ayikoru's first submission and probably extend a humble word "sorry" to her . Ayikoru these reactions according to my understanding are not because of any personal feelings against you,but the facts you raised created some emotion that was controlled a bit,i know after thorough understanding your message they will get back to you take it easy Regards --- On Mon, 9/5/11, alex free wrote: From: alex free Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 6:31 AM Hello Madam Ayikoru, Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. God bless you, Andrua On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: Dear Mr. Andrua, Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which is such a shame. Have a great week. Maureen Ayikoru Sent from my iPhone On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine Ayikoru > and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow bus, I > don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a symbol of > of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic political > setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders act as > patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, it is > seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or clean running wat er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so > ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > development of science, etc! > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > industries, factories, schools will use, hou
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Hello Madam Ayikoru, Thanks for wishing me a great week! I wish you the same. I wasn't angry at you, rather I reacted at the idea that West Nilers may be reaping air because they have always refused to climb the "yellow bus!" That is not just what you wrote but many people think so. To be honest, when I think about the issue of power in our region I get mad. A Rwandan friend of mine was surprised to hear that we have no power yet Uganda sells electricity to Rwanda and other neighbouring countries! It should be someone lower than Museveni to talk loosely like that not he himself to claim that we have no need of power! In 2003 the German government gave some thing like 8 or 10 million Euros to build Olewa dam. Nobody knows where that money disappeared. On the other hand I don't want to think about Nyagak whose story all of us know including my friend whose life was later endangered because he was the last person to suffer the injustice of that political bigotry that stopped Bishop Frederick from constructing the dam. Anyhow, we hope and pray that with time, all those people with bad heart towards us will one day go and we have another who will hear our cry. But in the mean time, as I said earlier, nobody should stop or intimidate us from demanding for our rights. God bless you, Andrua On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ayikoru wrote: > Dear Mr. Andrua, > > Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, > non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've > done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly > intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted > commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the > first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which > is such a shame. > > Have a great week. > > Maureen Ayikoru > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow > bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a > symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic > political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders > act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, > it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or > clean running wat > er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the > citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of > paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other > members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily > living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? > Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to > us? > > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what > so ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > development of science, etc! > > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should > avoid cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be > silenced about our rights! > > > > Andrua > > ___ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > > ___ > ___ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found a
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear friends, I've been silently observing and getting iritated about the unkind response of the president about our need for electricity. I wonder whether the economics he graduated in is the same economics I studied. I think the syllubus of economics has not changed much in Uganda. Sincerely, to say that we do not have the capacity to consume electricity is rendering us equal to dogs and cats. It is like saying to a woman you first give birth to a baby before I give you the womb where the baby is surposed to mature. How do we build factories and industries if the electricity isn't there? If we pay taxes, if the same person begs votes from us and even robs some then this contradiction can only be explained by intended economic retardation for whatever purpose only known to the creator. Those who have gone to Kampala, Mbarara, etc will accept with me that some of the surbubs where elcetricity is taken are worse than some of our grass thatched houses in the village. I wonder which factories are found in those surbubs for them to deserve electricity and we in westnile do not need it if not factories of manufacturing children which we have. What we are asking for is not a favor but a right; whoever considers electricity, hospitals, means of transport, infrastructures as favors for which we should be insulted and fooled doesn't know the role of the government. The same people who claim that we do not need electricity in westnile are the same people who have gone to countries like Italy, Germany, France where electricity reaches the last person even if he or she is alone and in the bush, it must still reach there. This is not because he or she has a factory but because pays taxes and thus deserves the services. So, must our taxes be enjoyed by others at our advantage? On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:14 PM, alex free wrote: > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow > bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a > symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic > political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders > act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, > it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or > clean running water whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax > paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no > records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If > other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their > daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of > Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is > done to us? > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so > ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > development of science, etc! > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid > cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced > about our rights! > > Andrua > > ___ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > ___ > > -- *Adroamabe Isaac* ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List
Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear Mr. Andrua, Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which is such a shame. Have a great week. Maureen Ayikoru Sent from my iPhone On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free wrote: > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine Ayikoru > and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow bus, I > don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a symbol of > of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic political > setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders act as > patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, it is > seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or > clean running wat er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so > ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > development of science, etc! > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid > cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced > about our rights! > > Andrua > ___ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile!
Dear Brothers and Sisters, Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or clean running water whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, development of science, etc! I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, cooking, students use for reading, etc. Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced about our rights! Andrua ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
