RE: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.

2009-04-07 Thread samuel andema
Hi Engeneer Obetia,
 
I thought i was alone. Like you i also don't now know which district i belong 
to. Before i left Uganda i wanted to fill some forms but i couldn't because i 
didn't know which district, sub-county, parish and village to fill. All the 
informan in my previous documents have been rendered useless. If you think am 
lying try to go to the vilage one of these days, you will be amazed by what you 
are told. Such is how far things have reached.
 
I wish you a nice holy week.
 
Thank you.
 
Sam Andema

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From: robert obetia 
Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
Date: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 9:26 AM




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Hello All,
 
I may not be a Lu... though from Arua, (Or is it Nyadr.. or Ma /Te?). 
Forgetting where i belong but atleast the larger picture is clearer - West 
Nile. Alaka, you and i were one time attempting to form a WENSA (1995).. 
 
I hope to see any of you - may be around DMOs  ...? In town (K'la) for a few 
days. 
 
Regards
 
RObetia 
 


Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:09:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
From: ejikurob...@gmail.com
To: westnilenet@kym.net


Caleb,
 
I beleive judging from the reactions from this forum, it must now open up to 
westnile or better still to cover the entire former Arua. How you phrase it is 
now to be thought out but definately not LUSU or something that suggests 
Lugbara bse Arua has always been more than that and even presently it is big 
culturally.
 
Over to you then.
 
Ejiku.


On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:






Hi, 
 
Over the weekend, I and Eng. Okuni represented the rest of you at this years 
Makerere Arua Students Union Finalist and Hand Over party. The Chief Guest was 
non other than Uncle Tom Buruku. Before he took to the podium, Dr. Isaac Ezaati 
the Patron MASU unveiled uncle Tom in a manner that could make the Queen of 
England bow to the occasion. He told us to look at Tom Buruku, Obitre Gama, 
Joseph Etima, Dr. Eric Adriko, James Nyakuni as People who should inspire us 
and act as our role models.The Students seem to have gained actual focus. They 
addressed the issue of poor academic performance in West Nile, Land use and 
other factors. When I was given an opportunity to address them, I opined about 
the need to transform MASU to something similar to LUSU (Lugbara Students 
Union), LUMSA (Lubgara Makerere Students Association) or LUSDA (Lubgara 
Students Development Association. Why all this. MASU used to cover Arua 
which included Kobobo, Yumbe, Maracha, Terego,
 Ayivu, Madi Okollo, and Vura. Now we have Koboko District, Yumbe District, 
Maracha Terego District and Arua district which now has only Vura, Ayivu and 
Madi Okollo. So I thought we need to have a students association based on our 
cultural heritage. After all we have AMSA (Acholi Makerere Students 
Association), TESDA (Teso Students Development Association) Nkoba Zambogo (For 
Buganda) LASA (Lango Students Association) Basoga, and Banyakore etc students 
Association. This way we can salvage MASU since county based students 
Associations are being manipulated by selfish and egoistic Politicians who fear 
to meet a larger body of intellectuals and the students have almost bought the 
idea of being Vura, Ayivu, Terego, Madi Okollo, Maracha, Aringa e.t.c. Ya how 
do we conserve the Identity and Unity of our students?  

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RE: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.

2009-04-07 Thread robert obetia

Hello All,

 

I may not be a Lu... though from Arua, (Or is it Nyadr.. or Ma /Te?). 
Forgetting where i belong but atleast the larger picture is clearer - West 
Nile. Alaka, you and i were one time attempting to form a WENSA (1995). 

 

I hope to see any of you - may be around DMOs  ...? In town (K'la) for a few 
days. 

 

Regards

 

RObetia 
 


Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:09:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
From: ejikurob...@gmail.com
To: westnilenet@kym.net


Caleb,
 
I beleive judging from the reactions from this forum, it must now open up to 
westnile or better still to cover the entire former Arua. How you phrase it is 
now to be thought out but definately not LUSU or something that suggests 
Lugbara bse Arua has always been more than that and even presently it is big 
culturally.
 
Over to you then.
 
Ejiku.


On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:






Hi, 
 
Over the weekend, I and Eng. Okuni represented the rest of you at this years 
Makerere Arua Students Union Finalist and Hand Over party. The Chief Guest was 
non other than Uncle Tom Buruku. Before he took to the podium, Dr. Isaac Ezaati 
the Patron MASU unveiled uncle Tom in a manner that could make the Queen of 
England bow to the occasion. He told us to look at Tom Buruku, Obitre Gama, 
Joseph Etima, Dr. Eric Adriko, James Nyakuni as People who should inspire us 
and act as our role models.The Students seem to have gained actual focus. They 
addressed the issue of poor academic performance in West Nile, Land use and 
other factors. When I was given an opportunity to address them, I opined about 
the need to transform MASU to something similar to LUSU (Lugbara Students 
Union), LUMSA (Lubgara Makerere Students Association) or LUSDA (Lubgara 
Students Development Association. Why all this. MASU used to cover Arua which 
included Kobobo, Yumbe, Maracha, Terego, Ayivu, Madi Okollo, and Vura. Now we 
have Koboko District, Yumbe District, Maracha Terego District and Arua district 
which now has only Vura, Ayivu and Madi Okollo. So I thought we need to have a 
students association based on our cultural heritage. After all we have AMSA 
(Acholi Makerere Students Association), TESDA (Teso Students Development 
Association) Nkoba Zambogo (For Buganda) LASA (Lango Students Association) 
Basoga, and Banyakore etc students Association. This way we can salvage MASU 
since county based students Associations are being manipulated by selfish and 
egoistic Politicians who fear to meet a larger body of intellectuals and the 
students have almost bought the idea of being Vura, Ayivu, Terego, Madi Okollo, 
Maracha, Aringa e.t.c. Ya how do we conserve the Identity and Unity of our 
students?  

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Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Ejiku
Caleb,

I beleive judging from the reactions from this forum, it must now open up to
westnile or better still to cover the entire former Arua. How you phrase it
is now to be thought out but definately not LUSU or something that suggests
Lugbara bse Arua has always been more than that and even presently it is big
culturally.

Over to you then.

Ejiku.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> Over the weekend, I and Eng. Okuni represented the rest of you at this
> years Makerere Arua Students Union Finalist and Hand Over party. The Chief
> Guest was non other than Uncle Tom Buruku. Before he took to the podium, Dr.
> Isaac Ezaati the Patron MASU unveiled uncle Tom in a manner that could make
> the Queen of England bow to the occasion. He told us to look at Tom Buruku,
> Obitre Gama, Joseph Etima, Dr. Eric Adriko, James Nyakuni as People who
> should inspire us and act as our role models.The Students seem to have
> gained actual focus. They addressed the issue of poor academic performance
> in West Nile, Land use and other factors. When I was given an opportunity to
> address them, I opined about the need to transform MASU to something similar
> to LUSU (Lugbara Students Union), LUMSA (Lubgara Makerere Students
> Association) or LUSDA (Lubgara Students Development Association. Why all
> this. MASU used to cover Arua which included Kobobo, Yumbe, Maracha, Terego,
> Ayivu, Madi Okollo, and Vura. Now we have Koboko District, Yumbe District,
> Maracha Terego District and Arua district which now has only Vura, Ayivu and
> Madi Okollo. So I thought we need to have a students association based on
> our cultural heritage. After all we have AMSA (Acholi Makerere Students
> Association), TESDA (Teso Students Development Association) Nkoba Zambogo
> (For Buganda) LASA (Lango Students Association) Basoga, and Banyakore etc
> students Association. This way we can salvage MASU since county based
> students Associations are being manipulated by selfish and egoistic
> Politicians who fear to meet a larger body of intellectuals and the students
> have almost bought the idea of being Vura, Ayivu, Terego, Madi Okollo,
> Maracha, Aringa e.t.c. Ya how do we conserve the Identity and Unity of our
> students?
>
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Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party

2009-04-06 Thread Patrick Okuni
Hi Colleagues
 
I have been quiet for a while, but passively following the discussions. Yes, i 
was at the function with Caleb, but left early for another one. He will clarify 
on whether some of the issues I observed changed after my departure.
 
First, time management continues to be a problem. The 'British trained' uncle 
Tom was there duly on time as Chief Guest, only to find a handfull of officials 
only. Some of us ther more contemporary monitored on phone for a while before 
coming - still ahead of most. Interestingly when the function formally started 
there were the officials (not all!) and some finalists. There was therefore no 
audience of members. By the time I left the hall was like 1/4 full - maybe it 
changed afterwards.
 
Then clearly the fragmentation by constituency (from what transpired it appears 
'county' has disappeared from our vocubulary) is certainly weakening MASU. 
Indeed MASU should develop a good strategic plan, working together with the 
smaller associations to complement each other. Indeed the reason MASU was named 
a 'union' is in recognition of the need and existance of the associations. They 
are therefore complimentary, and can coexist amicably. But all need to resist 
the temptation to br dragged into individual turf, and avoid confrontational 
approaches to work. But I disagree with renaming MASU (for historical and the 
earlier highlighted cosmolitan reasons; but also the selfish one that I am Madi 
Okollo, and could feel offended being called Lugbara!) - rather MASU should 
rediscover itselt. And there is great potential at this time when the elders 
are even looking at the wide West Nile. We should be working through these 
young and energetic groups to
 deliver to address the teething problems we continue to discuss back home. The 
small populations of the ethnic groups in West Nile could actually be our 
strength in diversity, because our different perceptions cross-fertilise well 
to give a rich mix.
 
Another interesting observation was that the Doctors, Engineers and Accountants 
showed more seriousness by coming to participate, even in numbers. In our days 
it was said that these sere 'social bores'. Any pointers to the changing times? 
Not sure. Maybe someone will clarlfy.
 
Kind regards
 
Patrick Okuni

--- On Mon, 6/4/09, samuel andema  wrote:


From: samuel andema 
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 3:53 AM







Hi Caleb,
 
Thank you for sharing with us what transpired at the MASU function. It is 
exciting to hear that you have kept close touch with our students' 
organisations at Makerere. The students definitely need that kind of 
role-modelling from MASU ancestors like you who made significant controbutions 
to make the organisation what it is today. I also appreciate the challenge Dr 
Ezati Alidria, the Patron of MASU gave the students to see our senior citizens 
like Mr Etima, Dr Adriko, Tom Buruku, Mr Obitre gama, Mr Nyakuni etc as source 
of inspiration. They have indeed inspired many of us in life.
 
Am also happy to learn that the students are becoming focussed and addressing 
issues of concern to the wider community. Otherwise, the students had run MASU 
down to a point where people had began losing interest in them because of their 
unbecoming behaviour in parties. They had made MASU functions to become a stage 
for blood letting and epitom of hooliganism and foolishness which no one would 
like to associate with. For a number of years MASU functions contintinued to be 
characterized by severe fighting, destruction of property and students being 
arrested and taken to police  for crime etc. It is encouraging that some 
positive changes are being reported of MASU students.
 
However on your proposal to change the name of MASU to Mugbara Students Union 
or Lugbara Makerere Students' Association i beg to differ for three or so 
reasons. First of all in my view Arua is a cosmopoplitant district and not 
entirely a Lugbara community. The Majority of the population in Arua may be 
Lugbara but a significan proportion  of the population in Arua has historically 
comprised other communities like Alur, Kakwa, Nubians/Aringa, Madi etc. Thus 
naming of the Association after Lugbara ... may not be appropriate as some 
sections of the population from Arua might feel alienated. Secondly i feel we 
should not change the name of MASU into something else because of historical 
and cultural reasons. Historically MASU was the first cultural students' 
organisation known to have existed in the history of Makerere if what the 
founders told us by word of mouth is any thing to go by. Changing the name may 
delink the organisation from its
 historical identity from which it should continue to draw inspiration 
and strength. Thirdly am of the opinion that changing the name of MASU because 
other

Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.

2009-04-05 Thread samuel andema
Hi Caleb,
 
Thank you for sharing with us what transpired at the MASU function. It is 
exciting to hear that you have kept close touch with our students' 
organisations at Makerere. The students definitely need that kind of 
role-modelling from MASU ancestors like you who made significant controbutions 
to make the organisation what it is today. I also appreciate the challenge Dr 
Ezati Alidria, the Patron of MASU gave the students to see our senior citizens 
like Mr Etima, Dr Adriko, Tom Buruku, Mr Obitre gama, Mr Nyakuni etc as source 
of inspiration. They have indeed inspired many of us in life.
 
Am also happy to learn that the students are becoming focussed and addressing 
issues of concern to the wider community. Otherwise, the students had run MASU 
down to a point where people had began losing interest in them because of their 
unbecoming behaviour in parties. They had made MASU functions to become a stage 
for blood letting and epitom of hooliganism and foolishness which no one would 
like to associate with. For a number of years MASU functions contintinued to be 
characterized by severe fighting, destruction of property and students being 
arrested and taken to police  for crime etc. It is encouraging that some 
positive changes are being reported of MASU students.
 
However on your proposal to change the name of MASU to Mugbara Students Union 
or Lugbara Makerere Students' Association i beg to differ for three or so 
reasons. First of all in my view Arua is a cosmopoplitant district and not 
entirely a Lugbara community. The Majority of the population in Arua may be 
Lugbara but a significan proportion  of the population in Arua has historically 
comprised other communities like Alur, Kakwa, Nubians/Aringa, Madi etc. Thus 
naming of the Association after Lugbara ... may not be appropriate as some 
sections of the population from Arua might feel alienated. Secondly i feel we 
should not change the name of MASU into something else because of historical 
and cultural reasons. Historically MASU was the first cultural students' 
organisation known to have existed in the history of Makerere if what the 
founders told us by word of mouth is any thing to go by. Changing the name may 
delink the organisation from its
 historical identity from which it should continue to draw inspiration 
and strength. Thirdly am of the opinion that changing the name of MASU because 
other people's organisations have tribal or ethnic names such as TESDA, AMSA 
may be counter productive as no two communities share exactly the same 
sociocultural identities. Our situation are not exactly the same as the 
situations in those communities.  
 
I would like to humbly propose that the name of MASU remains as it is but MASU 
should make a SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats) analysis 
of itself and realign its activities to take care of all the usbcommunities in 
Arua. This will necessitate a strong, vibrant, dynamic and committed leadership 
which MASU has not exhibited for a while. The students should stop electing 
leaders on the basis of ones capacity for offering "Malua" at Kikonyi or 
Makerere Kivuli. Forgive me those who love malua, i just wanted to make a 
point. I hope Mr  will accept my apology.
 
Thank you and let the conversation continue for it is through such open and 
frank discussuions that we might stumple on some thing useful.
 
Sam Andema
University of British Columbia
Box 34
6335 Thunderbird Crescent
Vancouver, BC V6T 2G9 
Canada

--- On Mon, 6/4/09, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

From: Caleb Alaka 
Subject: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 12:26 AM







Hi, 
 
Over the weekend, I and Eng. Okuni represented the rest of you at this years 
Makerere Arua Students Union Finalist and Hand Over party. The Chief Guest was 
non other than Uncle Tom Buruku. Before he took to the podium, Dr. Isaac Ezaati 
the Patron MASU unveiled uncle Tom in a manner that could make the Queen of 
England bow to the occasion. He told us to look at Tom Buruku, Obitre Gama, 
Joseph Etima, Dr. Eric Adriko, James Nyakuni as People who should inspire us 
and act as our role models.The Students seem to have gained actual focus. They 
addressed the issue of poor academic performance in West Nile, Land use and 
other factors. When I was given an opportunity to address them, I opined about 
the need to transform MASU to something similar to LUSU (Lugbara Students 
Union), LUMSA (Lubgara Makerere Students Association) or LUSDA (Lubgara 
Students Development Association. Why all this. MASU used to cover Arua 
which included Kobobo, Yumbe, Maracha, Terego,
 Ayivu, Madi Okollo, and Vura. Now we have Koboko District, Yumbe District, 
Maracha Terego District and Arua district which now has only Vura, Ayivu and 
Madi Okollo. So I thought we need to have a students association based on our 
cultural heritage. After all we have AMSA (Acholi Maker