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Father Rofino, Thank you for keeping the fire burning on the issue of the pastoralists. I feel we haven't realised the real gravity of this looming crises. Am glad you know some of the strategies they are using to make the issue even more difficult to deal with. I may not be old enough to know all the marriage traditions of the people of West Nile. But when i was growing up marriage was a communal event and not a person selfish economic venture where you mortgage the future of an entire society for fifty thousand shillings as some reports seem to imply our LCs are doing. A marriage where some one uses their doughter to bring calamity on the entire community must be condemned and such a person subjected to panel of elders who have lived long enough to sense calamity by their nose. For sure we must rise up and defend West Nile no matter the price. Enough shoyld be enough! Sam Andema --- On Thu, 23/4/09, Ruffino Ezama ruffino.ez...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ruffino Ezama ruffino.ez...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Thursday, 23 April, 2009, 9:59 PM Dear all I was out of arua till yesterday night. I dont want to miss a comment on the pastoralists in west nile. These people are strategists. As soon as they arrive with their amimals in westnile they eye one of the young lady for marriage. How do you then send away a muko/in law? What to do? This has already happened in famileis in nebbi and Okollo -- Ruffino Ezama,mccj Comboni Missionaries Ombaci Mission P.O Box 30 Arua Uganda (+256 77 2 62 42 40) (+256 70 2 62 42 40) ruffino.ez...@gmail.com ezama.ruff...@gmail.com ruff...@cmpmail.com www.tualu.org ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
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Dear Gildert, you have said the truth. The interst of these people is to own the land having the OIL DIPOSITS: This is a greater Political plan where sensitive state secrets are leaked to a particular people who pretend to be innocent and ordinary herdsmen going on thier business. I am convinced these people have prior information about the riches of the Westnile at first thought to be poor. Punic has stricken the current powers that are as this riches of West nile and Northern Uganda may change Political landscape of Uganda again. Let's remain calm but have the resolve to have those pastoralist trace their way back to where they rare coming from. Beware of the obnoctious land amendment bill Alert the Politicians now!David. --- On Tue, 21/4/09, Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 To: andema...@yahoo.co.uk, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 8:38 AM Hi Sam, Herdsmen causing fracas in West Nile??!!! These are worrying trends our people should act on now. Otherwise the rate at which they are collecting money and drinking with women to be annouced in a public rally is worrisome. This is a political representative at the local level who is supposedly the eye and voice of the masses to decide what is right for the people. Sam, I still remember some little bit of my physical Geography. The areas these pastoralists are interested in are the dry stapes that lie along the river Nile. There are some interesting maps I have come across on some website detailing likely Oil deposits in the Great lakes region in pdf format. The West Nile region has vast deposits along the Nile plus numerous othe minerals. Jus as you pointed inyoru earlier posting, its my hope that we do not hangover till after 2011 elections. Where have these pastoralists been grazoing there animals before migrating to West Nile ostensibly to look for grazing land. Let them sale off some of these animals so that they have head counts that can be sustained by their grazing land. I think power is making patriots drawn in this country. Imagine it were a group of people from West Nile with those herds in search of grazing land in Mbarara carrying guns?? Woudn't you be labelled PRA rebels??!! Strange world we are living in. You guys have not sacrificed enough. We had better wake up to sacrifice better. Good day. Gilbert Adibo On 21/04/2009, samuel andema andema...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If they are sleeping this will wake them up: Thanks Sam Andema Herdsmen cause fracas in West Nile News Written by RICHARD DRASIMAKU Monday, 20 April 2009 06:11 ARUA-There is a security breakdown in some parts of West Nile that has been caused by rising tension between local people and nomadic pastoralists. Some of the pastoralists are said to be armed. A soldier, Private Twebaze Katoto, was on April 2, stoned to death by villagers of Jafurunga in Kucwiny Sub-county, Nebbi District, who mistook him to be a pastoralist. In a tense joint security meeting chaired by Arua RDC, Maj. Ibrahim Abiringa four days after the incident, Arua District officials accused their Nebbi counterparts of failing to stop the cattle keepers from entering the region with large herds of cattle. There are allegations that Luiji Candini, the Secretary for Security of Arua District, and the Ajia LC-III Chairman, Alekua Santore, accepted inducements to facilitate the settlement of the cattle keepers. But Chandini told the closed-door meeting that he was only given Shs50,000 by the Arua District Internal Security Officer (DISO), Jero Mugarura, who owns a large herd of cattle in Arivu Sub-county. He said the DISO was planning to acquire more grazing land in the neighbouring Ofaka Sub-county. Candini repeated the remarks during a public rally organised by the Minister of State Minister for Transport, Simon Ejua, at Ajia Sub-county a day later. “The DISO [gave] Shs50, 000 only, which money I used to drink with women,” he said, throwing the crowd into laughter. “As for the [alleged] millions being talked about, [you] ask Santore,” he said as he passed on the microphone to the LC-III chairman. But Santore told the crowd to ask the LC-I officials in the concerned areas, prompting jeers from the irritated listeners. He also wondered why authorities in Nebbi don’t stop pastoralists from entering the region. The cattle keepers enter West Nile through Pakwach in Nebbi. But the RDC of Nebbi, Betty Akech, reportedly told the April 6 security meeting that Nebbi’s role was to simply provide security for the cattle keepers from Pakwach up to the border with Arua. “Where they go next is not our duty,” Aketch is quoted as saying. The Arua DISO, Mugarura, has also defended himself and other pastoralists saying that the Constitution allows
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Hi Gilbert, You have rekindled the various questions that have been lingering in my mind about this mineral resources said to be plenty in West Nile Region. It is good you at least have an idea on these resources but how far are the leaders and people informed on these resources and should these resources get productive how far will the interests of the people and environment in the region be taken care of? We need to guide our leaders and communities on these issues before it is too late. Regards Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:38:37 +0400 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 From: adibo2...@gmail.com To: andema...@yahoo.co.uk; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Hi Sam, Herdsmen causing fracas in West Nile??!!! These are worrying trends our people should act on now. Otherwise the rate at which they are collecting money and drinking with women to be annouced in a public rally is worrisome. This is a political representative at the local level who is supposedly the eye and voice of the masses to decide what is right for the people. Sam, I still remember some little bit of my physical Geography. The areas these pastoralists are interested in are the dry stapes that lie along the river Nile. There are some interesting maps I have come across on some website detailing likely Oil deposits in the Great lakes region in pdf format. The West Nile region has vast deposits along the Nile plus numerous othe minerals. Jus as you pointed inyoru earlier posting, its my hope that we do not hangover till after 2011 elections. Where have these pastoralists been grazoing there animals before migrating to West Nile ostensibly to look for grazing land. Let them sale off some of these animals so that they have head counts that can be sustained by their grazing land. I think power is making patriots drawn in this country. Imagine it were a group of people from West Nile with those herds in search of grazing land in Mbarara carrying guns?? Woudn't you be labelled PRA rebels??!! Strange world we are living in. You guys have not sacrificed enough. We had better wake up to sacrifice better. Good day. Gilbert Adibo On 21/04/2009, samuel andema andema...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If they are sleeping this will wake them up: Thanks Sam Andema Herdsmen cause fracas in West Nile News Written by RICHARD DRASIMAKU Monday, 20 April 2009 06:11 ARUA-There is a security breakdown in some parts of West Nile that has been caused by rising tension between local people and nomadic pastoralists. Some of the pastoralists are said to be armed. A soldier, Private Twebaze Katoto, was on April 2, stoned to death by villagers of Jafurunga in Kucwiny Sub-county, Nebbi District, who mistook him to be a pastoralist. In a tense joint security meeting chaired by Arua RDC, Maj. Ibrahim Abiringa four days after the incident, Arua District officials accused their Nebbi counterparts of failing to stop the cattle keepers from entering the region with large herds of cattle. There are allegations that Luiji Candini, the Secretary for Security of Arua District, and the Ajia LC-III Chairman, Alekua Santore, accepted inducements to facilitate the settlement of the cattle keepers. But Chandini told the closed-door meeting that he was only given Shs50,000 by the Arua District Internal Security Officer (DISO), Jero Mugarura, who owns a large herd of cattle in Arivu Sub-county. He said the DISO was planning to acquire more grazing land in the neighbouring Ofaka Sub-county. Candini repeated the remarks during a public rally organised by the Minister of State Minister for Transport, Simon Ejua, at Ajia Sub-county a day later. “The DISO [gave] Shs50, 000 only, which money I used to drink with women,” he said, throwing the crowd into laughter. “As for the [alleged] millions being talked about, [you] ask Santore,” he said as he passed on the microphone to the LC-III chairman. But Santore told the crowd to ask the LC-I officials in the concerned areas, prompting jeers from the irritated listeners. He also wondered why authorities in Nebbi don’t stop pastoralists from entering the region. The cattle keepers enter West Nile through Pakwach in Nebbi. But the RDC of Nebbi, Betty Akech, reportedly told the April 6 security meeting that Nebbi’s role was to simply provide security for the cattle keepers from Pakwach up to the border with Arua. “Where they go next is not our duty,” Aketch is quoted as saying. The Arua DISO, Mugarura, has also defended himself and other pastoralists saying that the Constitution allows any Ugandan to settle anywhere they want. During the Ajia public rally, residents wondered why the cattle keepers were settling only in areas tipped for petroleum exploration. This has raised suspicion that the pastoralists have hidden economic interests camouflaged as a search for pasture and water. The pastoralists are also accused of moving
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Hi, With our brain power and knowledge, the only strength we shall have in weathering any threats to our existence is collective action.In the absence of any collective action, there is bound to be chaos. The key is awareness creation among the masses of the impacts of the existence, extraction and use of these natural resources. Just as your mail come in, I was reading some news on the Global Research centre website on Northern Uganda: Hidden War and massive Suffering. Another Whiteman's war for oil. It is so annoying how natural resources have remained a curse on the African continent. Lets drum up awareness. Good day. Gilbert On 21/04/2009, Ronald Okuonzi okuo...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Gilbert, You have rekindled the various questions that have been lingering in my mind about this mineral resources said to be plenty in West Nile Region. It is good you at least have an idea on these resources but how far are the leaders and people informed on these resources and should these resources get productive how far will the interests of the people and environment in the region be taken care of? We need to guide our leaders and communities on these issues before it is too late. Regards -- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:38:37 +0400 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 From: adibo2...@gmail.com To: andema...@yahoo.co.uk; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Hi Sam, Herdsmen causing fracas in West Nile??!!! These are worrying trends our people should act on now. Otherwise the rate at which they are collecting money and drinking with women to be annouced in a public rally is worrisome. This is a political representative at the local level who is supposedly the eye and voice of the masses to decide what is right for the people. Sam, I still remember some little bit of my physical Geography. The areas these pastoralists are interested in are the dry stapes that lie along the river Nile. There are some interesting maps I have come across on some website detailing likely Oil deposits in the Great lakes region in pdf format. The West Nile region has vast deposits along the Nile plus numerous othe minerals. Jus as you pointed inyoru earlier posting, its my hope that we do not hangover till after 2011 elections. Where have these pastoralists been grazoing there animals before migrating to West Nile ostensibly to look for grazing land. Let them sale off some of these animals so that they have head counts that can be sustained by their grazing land. I think power is making patriots drawn in this country. Imagine it were a group of people from West Nile with those herds in search of grazing land in Mbarara carrying guns?? Woudn't you be labelled PRA rebels??!! Strange world we are living in. You guys have not sacrificed enough. We had better wake up to sacrifice better. Good day. Gilbert Adibo On 21/04/2009, *samuel andema* andema...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If they are sleeping this will wake them up: Thanks Sam Andema Herdsmen cause fracas in West Nilehttp://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=2972:herdsmen-cause-fracas-in-west-nilecatid=34:newsItemid=59 [image: Print]http://www.observer.ug/index.php?view=articlecatid=34:newsid=2972:herdsmen-cause-fracas-in-west-niletmpl=componentprint=1page=option=com_contentItemid=59 [image: E-mail]http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_mailtotmpl=componentlink=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5vYnNlcnZlci51Zy9pbmRleC5waHA/dmlldz1hcnRpY2xlJmlkPTI5NzIlM0FoZXJkc21lbi1jYXVzZS1mcmFjYXMtaW4td2VzdC1uaWxlJm9wdGlvbj1jb21fY29udGVudCZJdGVtaWQ9NTk= News http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_contentview=categoryid=34:newslayout=blogItemid=59 Written by RICHARD DRASIMAKU Monday, 20 April 2009 06:11 ARUA-There is a security breakdown in some parts of West Nile that has been caused by rising tension between local people and nomadic pastoralists. Some of the pastoralists are said to be armed. A soldier, Private Twebaze Katoto, was on April 2, stoned to death by villagers of Jafurunga in Kucwiny Sub-county, Nebbi District, who mistook him to be a pastoralist. In a tense joint security meeting chaired by Arua RDC, Maj. Ibrahim Abiringa four days after the incident, Arua District officials accused their Nebbi counterparts of failing to stop the cattle keepers from entering the region with large herds of cattle. There are allegations that Luiji Candini, the Secretary for Security of Arua District, and the Ajia LC-III Chairman, Alekua Santore, accepted inducements to facilitate the settlement of the cattle keepers. But Chandini told the closed-door meeting that he was only given Shs50,000 by the Arua District Internal Security Officer (DISO), Jero Mugarura, who owns a large herd of cattle in Arivu Sub-county. He said the DISO was planning to acquire more grazing land in the neighbouring Ofaka Sub-county. Candini repeated the remarks during
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Hi Gilbert and Jacson, It seems people over celebrated Easter and they are still recovering from hangover. I hope they will not sleep upto 2011 only to find elections have taken place and Nyagak power station is still not done! Sam Andema. --- On Mon, 20/4/09, Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:41 PM Hey Guys, Is fatique setting in, not withstanding our normal commitments? Gilbert On 20/04/2009, JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com wrote: Many Voices but No Voices Heard Ladies and gentlemen, In an earlier post last week I had aluded to the fact that we need to organize ourselves into a tangible/functioning/definable body. I agree with Gilbert that our ideas have to go somewhere or else they end up no where. We have a lot of talents, nearly in every domain of education. For us to transform these wonderful ideas we post on this forum into action plans, we need to have consorted mechanism for communicating these ideas to our local leaders/admistrators. Secondly we need to coordinate these ideas into a usable format. We need to strike a collaborative working relationship, team building and camaradee approach in working with our local administrators so that they do not perceive us as a threat. Our mission and vision is simple: Better servcies Sustanianble community development. Mr Andema had posted a name West Nile Development Forum. Correct me if I am wrong. Why can't we have a thorough discussion on this issue. Is it feasible and doable? How do we go about formulating and organizing this? Do we agree or disagree? I have to repeat myself one more time. If we do not have a structured way of communing our ideas, ideals, vision, mission to the local people, how do these ideas get implemented? This forum has been a perfect tool for gathering us where we live, around the globe. Talking about issues affecting West Nile region and our communities. The bottom line is, how can we get these ideas to the people who are the ultimate benefectors? How long shall we continue just talking without action plans? Let's engage ourselves and have debate on how we can organize ourselves in a formal way. John J Avudria On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:00 AM, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net wrote: Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnile...@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: (Gilbert Adibo) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:10:51 +0400 From: Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Message-ID: 3144a0e40904200010w56e6e419jb93dc9dab3ede...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Fr. George, http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php/column/opinion/782-patriotism-classes-are-an-exercise-in-futility Here is the article link. Cheers! Gilbert Adibo -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20090420/714129f1/attachment-0001.html -- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 ** ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet
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Industry and Fisheries over the foot and mouth disease. Prior to the Monday, April 6 meeting, authorities in Nebbi had recovered 11 guns and several pieces of army uniform alleged to have been used by some pastoralists to intimidate local people. However, the West Nile Army Spokesman, Capt. Peter Mugisha, told The Observer that illegal guns in Nebbi are hired by the business people from the lawless Eastern DR Congo at Shs700, 000. “When these [guns] get into the hands of ill-intentioned people like UPDF deserters, they use them to terrorise our people,” he said. He appealed for increased vigilance and co-operation by civilians to stop the proliferation of small arms in West Nile. drasim...@yahoo.com --- On *Mon, 20/4/09, Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:41 PM Hey Guys, Is fatique setting in, not withstanding our normal commitments? Gilbert On 20/04/2009, JohnAJackson javud...@gmail.com wrote: *Many Voices but No Voices Heard* Ladies and gentlemen, In an earlier post last week I had aluded to the fact that we need to organize ourselves into a tangible/functioning/definable body. I agree with Gilbert that our ideas have to go somewhere or else they end up no where. We have a lot of talents, nearly in every domain of education. For us to transform these wonderful ideas we post on this forum into action plans, we need to have consorted mechanism for communicating these ideas to our local leaders/admistrators. Secondly we need to coordinate these ideas into a usable format. We need to strike a collaborative working relationship, team building and camaradee approach in working with our local administrators so that they do not perceive us as a threat. Our mission and vision is simple: Better servcies Sustanianble community development. Mr Andema had posted a name West Nile Development Forum. Correct me if I am wrong. Why can't we have a thorough discussion on this issue. Is it feasible and doable? How do we go about formulating and organizing this? Do we agree or disagree? I have to repeat myself one more time. If we do not have a structured way of communing our ideas, ideals, vision, mission to the local people, how do these ideas get implemented? This forum has been a perfect tool for gathering us where we live, around the globe. Talking about issues affecting West Nile region and our communities. The bottom line is, how can we get these ideas to the people who are the ultimate benefectors? How long shall we continue just talking without action plans? Let's engage ourselves and have debate on how we can organize ourselves in a formal way. John J Avudria On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:00 AM, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net wrote: Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: (Gilbert Adibo) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:10:51 +0400 From: Gilbert Adibo adibo2...@gmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Message-ID: 3144a0e40904200010w56e6e419jb93dc9dab3ede...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Fr. George, http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php/column/opinion/782-patriotism-classes-are-an-exercise-in-futility Here is the article link. Cheers! Gilbert Adibo -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20090420/714129f1/attachment-0001.html -- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenethttp://orion.kym..net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67 ** ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way
