Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Hi guys, This has been ephasised before. WestNile has to wake-up from the long slumber and set a sucess agenda and produce many WestNiles along key success areas to create impact: 1- Resounding education- in all sectors; Medic, Eng, Agric, Law, Prof Accountants, Financial/ Investments experts, Teachers/ Profs, Journalists, IT experts etc we had started publishing names. They now need to come out and impact theirs knowledge and skills...not just to carry titles 2- Resounding Businessmen. Can see Gaaga and Arua Boys, causing shivers around. But we need 100+ more . Not just that but to upgrade to International Levels 3-Resounding Commercial Farmers-type one can see in SouthAfrica. The food market is around Westnile 4-Industrialits- Adriko started, where are the others to follow. Process and reparkage the foodstuff, honey. 5-Above knowledge and skills- to provide service sectors in Westnile 6-Above, issues-with a WestNile outlook, can absorb forks. This then spiralls growth and development. But our thinking and belief must be coherent to forge this rgds Gilbert From: samuel andema andema...@yahoo.co.uk To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 19:52 Subject: Re: [WestNiletype Net] Walking the talk (Muni University) Hello Richard, Don't lose hope! Keep hope alive because it is the only thing that can sustain you in the most hopeless situation, man! I share your frustration and the frustration of many others on this forum for the endless talks without actions. Around 2009/20120 when the forum was taking shape there was a vigorous debate about who we are and purpose of our existence. Many constructive suggestions were made. Some people wanted this forum to be a development forum and others wanted it to just be a network forum. In fact the most popular name that emerged after a vote was West Nile Development Forum, if I remember well, but it seems the leadership was uncomfortable with that and the vote was ignored and more discussions went on until we became Westnile Net. The Bible says watch your tongue for in it lies the power of destruction or life. We don't pick names at random because a name is a signifier. They signify the identity of the object named. You will always be what you call yourself because your name means you. It is therefore not a surprise that West Nile Net is very active in virtual interaction on the net but completely inactive in development activities on ground. There is nothing in our existential identity that connects us to grass root activities so far. People should not expect too much from us in this forum because we doing well in what we can do best engage each other on the net. Kindly understand our situation, ladies and gentlemen! We are not actually doing badly in as far as our core identity and mission is concerned. We can support others in doing what you are accusing us of not doing which may technically be within our mandate as West Nile Net. (NB. The views expressed in this piece are not necessarily those of its founders or its leadership and they should not cause unnecessary disaffection.) Thanks. Sam Andema --- On Wed, 15/5/13, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: From: Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, 15 May, 2013, 16:09 Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years tocome.Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere
Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities whose papers need explanations. They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” _ From: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com To: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga, Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards, Winfred Adukule-Meuter On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all, How many of us who are skilled in rhetoric on this net have attended the WNF meetings in person, let alone send an apology for absence? The net has well over 300 people (I guess) but it would be a miracle to get 20 people in attendance at meetings (of course excluding members in the diaspora). Just wondering, Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” _ From: Adiga Godi allij...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Education Dear all, Have you heard people say talking is cheap ? That is what we do in this forum. The problem will go away by talking it away on the internet. God PLEASE, BLESS
Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Richard you have said my mind, many people in the net talk good ideas as analyse issues here in the net with the interlectual expertise they individually have but fail to deliver. Just imagine if these ideas were a woman the community has identified to be pregnant and after nine months this woman doesnt bring forth a child. .. I think many of us lack a spirit of sacrifice, because they think of their jobs and no one is willing to pull his/her resources to employ the sons and daughters of West Nile who could walk the many talks they offer. I am waiting to see one person living his or her paying job to come down on ground to help change the face of West Nile educationally. John Anguyo From: Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years tocome.Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities whose papers need explanations. They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com, AVirtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AM Winnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass by with their text books. MUNI UNIVERSITY has come alive as the 6th Public University in Uganda. This should drastically reduce costs of university education for our brethren. Whereas many parents could be able to grapple with tuition fees, other costs especially feeding, accommodation and daily transport to class make it impossible for our kin to progress. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Otherwise, thank you for starting to walk the talk. Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 Get it done ... yes you can if you believe in yourself” From:Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com To: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk Ezaga, Its time for action, baby steps will get us somewhere... We cannot wait in perpetuity. How about we start by collecting old textbooks our children no longer use? Whatever we collect can then be sent to a school that is in need! your thoughts please... Regards, Winfred
Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University)
Hello Richard, Don't lose hope! Keep hope alive because it is the only thing that can sustain you in the most hopeless situation, man! I share your frustration and the frustration of many others on this forum for the endless talks without actions. Around 2009/20120 when the forum was taking shape there was a vigorous debate about who we are and purpose of our existence. Many constructive suggestions were made. Some people wanted this forum to be a development forum and others wanted it to just be a network forum. In fact the most popular name that emerged after a vote was West Nile Development Forum, if I remember well, but it seems the leadership was uncomfortable with that and the vote was ignored and more discussions went on until we became Westnile Net. The Bible says watch your tongue for in it lies the power of destruction or life. We don't pick names at random because a name is a signifier. They signify the identity of the object named. You will always be what you call yourself because your name means you. It is therefore not a surprise that West Nile Net is very active in virtual interaction on the net but completely inactive in development activities on ground. There is nothing in our existential identity that connects us to grass root activities so far. People should not expect too much from us in this forum because we doing well in what we can do best engage each other on the net. Kindly understand our situation, ladies and gentlemen! We are not actually doing badly in as far as our core identity and mission is concerned. We can support others in doing what you are accusing us of not doing which may technically be within our mandate as West Nile Net. (NB. The views expressed in this piece are not necessarily those of its founders or its leadership and they should not cause unnecessary disaffection.) Thanks. Sam Andema --- On Wed, 15/5/13, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: From: Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, 15 May, 2013, 16:09 Hi all, I had lost faith and given up writing here because of the inherent weaknesses of our community in transforming discussions here into action. I have shared before from development perspectives how we can use for instance around table process (consultative meetings, concept paper, consultative meetings, intervention …) to translate ideas into action. I also wrote about teaching and coaching and the differences and how we can intervene, and many others have even written essays of more intellectual things that could be done. So guys the issue is how does this community mobilize itself off the net and on to the ground?? Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Aseamque Basilorum Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:08 PM To: Patrick Ezaga; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk (Muni University) Patrick Onen Ezaga, I like you comment I have attached below. Let us wait to see how many of our people will be in Muni University in a few years to come. Already West Nilers are fewer than those from Across the Nile at the NTC just next door. Having the university there should not cause unnecessary excitement. Yet the NTC admits people with comparatively lower points compared to a public university. We need to address the core causes as to why our students are not competing favourably nationally. I have been invigilating undergraduate exams at Makerere University in the last two weeks. In a room of about 70 students u may get one or no West Niler. The numbers are miserable. The situation may even be worse in other colleges within the university. If we don't all go down to contribute to the development of education in our region, we shall just be making noise. The much acclaimed Muni university will benefit other people. Our students will continue to go to these universities whose papers need explanations. They are already many in the region. Let's do something. I hate this business of other people thinking that we are good at digging or security guards.. I am not willing and will not be happy to see our people employed as office messengers or watchmen, cooks...etc. Those are good but not good enough. ASEA BASIL 0714 655255. --- On Fri, 5/10/13, Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Ezaga pez...@yahoo.com Subject: [WestNileNet] Walking the talk To: Winfred Adukule w.aduk...@gmail.com, A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 7:39 AMWinnie, I am in with both legs on this one. This is what walking the talk means. Actually I have a few books on the shelf and I have seen my house helpers use some in the sigiri!! Kindly indicate a drop off/collection point so that those committed enough can pass
