Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
Sorry that I am new to Wicket and may not know what the greatest values of wicket are supposed to be. We are evaluating different web frameworks right now and Wicket is one of them. One good and attracting point of Wicket to us is that it can separate html/design and logic at a good way. The usage of Wicket is simple and efficient. But when looking more details of Wicket, we find that session is created for every request. This introduces another concern about the performance problem as our website needs to serve a large volume of traffic. As we find that it seems wicket 1.3 or 2.0+ are supporting no-session pages, this fits our needs. Since the handling of html/logic is attractive to us, we are trying to seek possible solutions for session handling rather than just dumping out wicket from our list just because of without session, can't get the most benefit from wicket. Or do you suggest we should look at wicket 1.3 or 2.0+ rather than wicket 1.2.6? Regards, Wing igor.vaynberg wrote: tbh i see little value of using wicket in a completely stateless application. the big advantage of wicket is the programming model it offers, which you give up when using stateless only components. -igor On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the requirements of my project is not to use session, that's why my question is so :) Our website will have different language. Customers can choose for different languages by clicking links like: e.g. /en/... (show english content) /jp/... (show japanese content) /kr/... (show korean content) /zh/ (show chinese content) Therefore I can deduce the language from the request link, it would be nice if we can configure locale without the need of session creation. Regards, Wing Scott Swank wrote: Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10317292 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context:
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
1.3 is what i would look at, the current trunk in our svn. we just had a 1.3.0-beta release in apache incubator. 1.2.x doesnt have stateless support. there are numerous threads on this list that try to disprove the session is evil myth. so i would search the list for those first, before i made the decision that my app needs to be stateless. wicket-1.3 also has a second-level-session store which stores old pages to disk, further reducing the session size. just my 2c. -igor On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry that I am new to Wicket and may not know what the greatest values of wicket are supposed to be. We are evaluating different web frameworks right now and Wicket is one of them. One good and attracting point of Wicket to us is that it can separate html/design and logic at a good way. The usage of Wicket is simple and efficient. But when looking more details of Wicket, we find that session is created for every request. This introduces another concern about the performance problem as our website needs to serve a large volume of traffic. As we find that it seems wicket 1.3 or 2.0+ are supporting no-session pages, this fits our needs. Since the handling of html/logic is attractive to us, we are trying to seek possible solutions for session handling rather than just dumping out wicket from our list just because of without session, can't get the most benefit from wicket. Or do you suggest we should look at wicket 1.3 or 2.0+ rather than wicket 1.2.6? Regards, Wing igor.vaynberg wrote: tbh i see little value of using wicket in a completely stateless application. the big advantage of wicket is the programming model it offers, which you give up when using stateless only components. -igor On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the requirements of my project is not to use session, that's why my question is so :) Our website will have different language. Customers can choose for different languages by clicking links like: e.g. /en/... (show english content) /jp/... (show japanese content) /kr/... (show korean content) /zh/ (show chinese content) Therefore I can deduce the language from the request link, it would be nice if we can configure locale without the need of session creation. Regards, Wing Scott Swank wrote: Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10317292 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
in 1.3 you still can use getSession() and set the locale But then you need to set it everytime because the session is created everytime if the pages are all stateless. So then you still can work with the normal Wicket session object Creating a wicket session object doesn't mean you create a http session object. That only happens if there are pages that need to go into the session. johan On 5/4/07, Scott Swank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
in 1.3 you still can use getSession() and set the locale But then you need to set it everytime because the session is created everytime if the pages are all stateless. So then you still can work with the normal Wicket session object Creating a wicket session object doesn't mean you create a http session object. That only happens if there are pages that need to go into the session. Yes. When a client is not bound to a *HttpSession*, Wicket creates a temporary *Wicket Session* object for every request. This is not kept in memory, so when the request is done, the objects are free to be garbage collected. Eelco - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
you can override page.getlocale() and return something based on page parameters. havent tried it but sounds like it should work. -igor On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
One of the requirements of my project is not to use session, that's why my question is so :) Our website will have different language. Customers can choose for different languages by clicking links like: e.g. /en/... (show english content) /jp/... (show japanese content) /kr/... (show korean content) /zh/ (show chinese content) Therefore I can deduce the language from the request link, it would be nice if we can configure locale without the need of session creation. Regards, Wing Scott Swank wrote: Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10317292 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] alternatives to set locale without using session?
tbh i see little value of using wicket in a completely stateless application. the big advantage of wicket is the programming model it offers, which you give up when using stateless only components. -igor On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the requirements of my project is not to use session, that's why my question is so :) Our website will have different language. Customers can choose for different languages by clicking links like: e.g. /en/... (show english content) /jp/... (show japanese content) /kr/... (show korean content) /zh/ (show chinese content) Therefore I can deduce the language from the request link, it would be nice if we can configure locale without the need of session creation. Regards, Wing Scott Swank wrote: Can I ask why you don't want to store the locale in the session? It seems that the locale is unarguably session-specific. Cheers, Scott On 5/3/07, ywtsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have read the wicket examples, wiki, mail lists, etc and it seems that if I need to expliclity change the locale, i need to write codes like: getSession().setLocale(my locale); Now, I can determine the explicity language/locale need to use from the incoming URL. I want to use wicket built in i18n support. My problem is, I cannot/will not use session for nearl all the pages. So, any means to set the locale without using session? Any help/guideline will be welcomed. Thanks. Regards, Wing -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10316471 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alternatives-to-set-locale-without-using-%22session%22--tf3690056.html#a10317292 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
