Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst

Strange... I used the ip number from my inlaws (during the xmass dinner),
and I got a Katarre error page... However, when I used:

http://wicket-library.com/wicket-examples

everything just works. I really think this is a problem with a proxy.

Martijn

On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm sorry it's not better...



On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try: http://69.59.195.56
>
> Perhaps you have a proxy/firewall/wrongly configured DNS
>
> Martijn
>
> On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Martijn
> >
> > As added in the issue comment, it still doesn't work for me.
> > Furthermore a ping on wicket-library.com is timeout as well.
> >
> > I don't know what's happening... Strange ! Any clue ?
> >
> > ZedroS
> >
> > On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The wicket-library.com link you have in your message just works for
me.
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > > On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the tip.
> > > >
> > > > I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
> > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
> > > > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.
> > > >
> > > > Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see
the
> > > > light soon ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > ZedroS
> > > >
> > > > On 12/24/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > You've seen
http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?
> > > > >
> > > > > /Gwyn
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24/12/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ?
If so,
> > > > > > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total
newbe ? I
> > > > > > would love to be this guy ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket
home
> > > > > > site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like
a "real"
> > > > > > user guide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > ZedroS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-25 Thread ZedroS Schwart
I'm sorry it's not better...



On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try: http://69.59.195.56
>
> Perhaps you have a proxy/firewall/wrongly configured DNS
>
> Martijn
>
> On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Martijn
> >
> > As added in the issue comment, it still doesn't work for me.
> > Furthermore a ping on wicket-library.com is timeout as well.
> >
> > I don't know what's happening... Strange ! Any clue ?
> >
> > ZedroS
> >
> > On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The wicket-library.com link you have in your message just works for me.
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > > On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the tip.
> > > >
> > > > I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
> > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
> > > > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.
> > > >
> > > > Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see the
> > > > light soon ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > ZedroS
> > > >
> > > > On 12/24/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > You've seen http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?
> > > > >
> > > > > /Gwyn
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24/12/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If 
> > > > > > so,
> > > > > > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> > > > > > would love to be this guy ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
> > > > > > site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like a 
> > > > > > "real"
> > > > > > user guide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > ZedroS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
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> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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> > > > >
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Try: http://69.59.195.56

Perhaps you have a proxy/firewall/wrongly configured DNS

Martijn

On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Martijn
>
> As added in the issue comment, it still doesn't work for me.
> Furthermore a ping on wicket-library.com is timeout as well.
>
> I don't know what's happening... Strange ! Any clue ?
>
> ZedroS
>
> On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The wicket-library.com link you have in your message just works for me.
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the tip.
> > >
> > > I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.
> > >
> > > BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
> > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
> > > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.
> > >
> > > Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see the
> > > light soon ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > ZedroS
> > >
> > > On 12/24/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You've seen http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?
> > > >
> > > > /Gwyn
> > > >
> > > > On 24/12/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
> > > > > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> > > > > would love to be this guy ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
> > > > > site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like a "real"
> > > > > user guide.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > ZedroS
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
> > > > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to 
> > > > > share your
> > > > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
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> > > > > ___
> > > > > Wicket-user mailing list
> > > > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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> > >
> >
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-25 Thread ZedroS Schwart
Hi Martijn

As added in the issue comment, it still doesn't work for me.
Furthermore a ping on wicket-library.com is timeout as well.

I don't know what's happening... Strange ! Any clue ?

ZedroS

On 12/25/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The wicket-library.com link you have in your message just works for me.
>
> Martijn
>
> On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip.
> >
> > I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.
> >
> > BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
> > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.
> >
> > Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see the
> > light soon ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > ZedroS
> >
> > On 12/24/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You've seen http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?
> > >
> > > /Gwyn
> > >
> > > On 24/12/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
> > > >
> > > > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
> > > > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> > > > would love to be this guy ;)
> > > >
> > > > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
> > > > site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like a "real"
> > > > user guide.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > ZedroS
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
> > > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share 
> > > > your
> > > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
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> > > > ___
> > > > Wicket-user mailing list
> > > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > -
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> > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share 
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> > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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> > >
> >
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>
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The wicket-library.com link you have in your message just works for me.

Martijn

On 12/25/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.
>
> BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
> http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.
>
> Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see the
> light soon ?
>
> Thanks in advance
> ZedroS
>
> On 12/24/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You've seen http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?
> >
> > /Gwyn
> >
> > On 24/12/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
> > >
> > > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
> > > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> > > would love to be this guy ;)
> > >
> > > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
> > > site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like a "real"
> > > user guide.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > ZedroS
> > >
> > > -
> > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
> > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share 
> > > your
> > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
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> > > ___
> > > Wicket-user mailing list
> > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > -
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> > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
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> >
>
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-24 Thread ZedroS Schwart
Thanks for the tip.

I hadn't seen this specific page, I'll definitely look into it.

BTW, as said in the JIRA issue there :
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-185 the page
http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/ is currently dead.

Just a side note : do you know whether Wicket in Action will see the
light soon ?

Thanks in advance
ZedroS

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> > Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
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> > Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
> > do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> > would love to be this guy ;)
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> > Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
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> > Thanks in advance
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-24 Thread Gwyn Evans
You've seen http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html ?

/Gwyn

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> Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.
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> Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
> do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
> would love to be this guy ;)
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-12-24 Thread ZedroS Schwart
Hi all

Being new to wicket, I'm looking for a user guide.

Do you know if the "initiative for a user guide" is going on ? If so,
do you need someone to test it with the view from a total newbe ? I
would love to be this guy ;)

Whatever, I'm currently reading lot of stuff on the wicket home
site/wiki but I would welcome something more structured, like a "real"
user guide.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-06 Thread Stefan Kanev
I'm not really sure why you're giving me that JPA hype, as I already said I'm a big fond of using it and my motivations for evading it are different. But since Justin Lee gave me that repository, I think I can pull it out greatly.

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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-06 Thread Korbinian Bachl
Hi Stefan,

as far as i know JPA is a big part of the new JEE5 world, so it will never
drop out completely. And since it by the basics is just a description of
interfaces and way to work (basically) the implementation you use isnt tied
to sun. You may use Toplink if you want, or Hibernate or Kodo.. or any other
framework that implements it. 
Even if you just want to use only Hibernate, tying it behind JPA is a big
plus and makes many things easier (for example, you dont need to take care
for a SessionFactory in Hibernate in JEE since a simple annotation is enough
to get a EntityManager - and so you dont have to mess around yourself. Need
a transaction ? just another annotation over the Method and youre fine).

If you want to have a start , get the NetBeans 5.5 RC1 and Download
GlassFish EE Server (Version 1) and you have all you need (incl. Toplink
Essentials as ORM bridge for JPA)

Regards,

Korbinian

PS: spring is a part, that i dont like myself because i hate XML config
files and this whole messing around with them.




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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

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Oh, cool. So I might use JPA after all. Is it freely available and is
there a change that you might suddenly stop supporting it (I have
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

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> but it requires jars that you have to download from Sun, because they
> aren't distributed freely (thus ibiblio.org). This is a major problem

It's not perfect, but check
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Stefan Kanev
Maybe I didn't express myself cleary, sorry. JPA is very cool and all,
but it requires jars that you have to download from Sun, because they
aren't distributed freely (thus ibiblio.org). This is a major problem
with Maven, since this is what Maven does - gets the publicly
available jars for you, so the only thing you have to do to build and
run a project is mvn package or mvn jetty:run.

Now, I don't say JPA is evil because of that. I'm currently working on
a project that is heavy-JPA and I too feel that it is one of the
coolest three-letter acronyms in Java. But it would hinder the
redistributabily and availability of the demo application - you'll
have to download the jars yourself and manually install it in Maven's
repository (and that sucks bit time). So for this reason, I prefer to
avoid it - it is hadly central for the project itself, and that is why
I even prefer to use a mocked-up model and not a big framework that
does some persisting.

On the other hand, it is important to show how Wicket works with
domain models, not just how it handles web page rendering and request
processing. I've went through three pases on how domain interaction
should be split around my components and models in the aforemented
project and each of them could have been avoided if I had a good
seperation between the two concepts before that. So for this reason,
it would be cool to have Spring and Hibernate, since they influence
building a web app a lot. So I'm not really sure which way to go.

And let me add something for my previous email, since it's too vague -
it would be a "How to build a pet store with wicket" guide. I think it
is good to start with something small and that will produce something
useful even if left unfinished (at least a demo application and maybe
a guide how to do it). But I also want to write a reference manual and
I actually started with this idea. One thing I'm lack is a Table of
Contents, though, since I have no idea of how to categorize everything
in Wicket. If anyone has an idea and feels that it is worth it, please
do send your thoughs - I will eventually start writing a reference
manual too.

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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Korbinian Bachl



Hi,
 
can you tell me more about what isnt 
working?
 
Im quite new to JPA, but the interesting things is that 
everything i tried worked like a charm... 
 
Regards

  
  
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  Stefan KanevGesendet: Montag, 2. Oktober 2006 
  18:18An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: 
  [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide
  I'm a big fan of JPA myself, but a JPA application is not easy to 
  distribute since the akward policy Sun has for their "enterprise" jars. Thus I 
  cannot create an application that is as easily runned localy as "mvn 
  jetty:run" - I'm having the same problem with the commercial projects I'm 
  doing and with a small JPA test fixtures API I've been trying to put up and 
  I'm pretty much sick of it. I think it is a better idea to use hibernate (if 
  use any persistence at all) than to sacrifice the easiness of the sample 
  application portability. 
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Stefan Kanev
I'm thinking with starting from a user guide to a sample app and then continuing with a reference guide. I would like to start simple, and if I see I can handle it, I'll start writing a reference manual
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Stefan Kanev
Does the same go for Hibernate? Maybe create an in-memory domain model, that doesn't persist in any kind and use it instead? This would simplify the sample application and put the focus to Wicket instead. It might be especially useful to people, who are not familiar with Spring and Hibernate.

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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Iman Rahmatizadeh
hmmm, is it going to be some sort of a reference doc for wicket, or just a user guide to writing a sample app ? On 10/2/06, Eelco Hillenius <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:yeah, maybe it doesn't need that. Pet store is kind of a best practices project, so I figured it might get in there. Databinder as an alternative would be cool with me too.
EelcoOn Oct 1, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Philip A. Chapman wrote:
 Guys,  I love spring and use it with all my wicket apps.  However, should it be a part of the main body of the manual?  I wouldn't want anyone to get the idea that wicket requires spring in any way.  Perhaps it would go into an "Advanced" or "Using wicket with other frameworks" section that could also include the use of Hibernate, Shades, JasperReports and whatever else.
  At the very least, we should make it plain in the manual that spring is not required for the use of wicket, but that it's being used in the example app and in the manual for reasons X,Y, and Z.  Thanks,
  On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 22:15 +0200, Eelco Hillenius wrote:  Folks,

Stefan Kanev just volunteered to start writing on a new user guide.  
He asked me to give him an idea for a TOC, so here's mine. I'm  
sending this to the list in case people would like to help/ have  
ideas/ ...

---
TOC user guide, Building Wicket Pet Store

1. What Is Wicket
	* Explains Wicket's strong points, philosophy, etc
2. The basics
 * Basic concepts, tells about Application, session, components,  
markup, pages and models
3. Introducing WicketPetstore
	* Describe what we'll be building, including a short look at the  
domain model
	* Setup project & database
	* Setup Spring
	* Setup the skeleton; HTML stubs and non-interactive pages
4. Browsing the store
	* Implement the browsing part: list views, labels and an  
introduction to models (Use compound property model here)
		- Uses services wired using Spring
	* Use resources to display images (with thumbnail resources)
5. Tracking the client
	* Set up a custom session
	* Implement shopping basket tracking, including a panel that  
displays the current items in the basket
6. Working with forms
	* Implement forms for adding items to the basket
	* Implement validation
	* Implement check out functionality
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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-05 Thread Stefan Kanev
I'm a big fan of JPA myself, but a JPA application is not easy to distribute since the akward policy Sun has for their "enterprise" jars. Thus I cannot create an application that is as easily runned localy as "mvn jetty:run" - I'm having the same problem with the commercial projects I'm doing and with a small JPA test fixtures API I've been trying to put up and I'm pretty much sick of it. I think it is a better idea to use hibernate (if use any persistence at all) than to sacrifice the easiness of the sample application portability.


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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-02 Thread Korbinian Bachl



Hi,
 
my 2 cents:
 
petstore is a good thing to have in it, as it shows how 
everything really works and is plugged together, spring however shouldnt be put 
in a main part, more appendix or sth. like that. 
 
For Hibernate & co. : just forget them and concentrate 
on how wicket and JPA fit together, as JPA can be plugged together with 
Hibernate, Toplink, Kodo and more to come and will be "the" standard for 
persistence in java apps from now on. - if you ask me, JPA is the future. 

 
Regards
 
Korbinian
 
PS: please, also remind yourself when writing that most 
target developers come from a world of JSP, Struts & co meaning that they 
"forgot" most of object oriented programming. They dont live in a world full of 
objects but in a world of flows and tasks put together... like me as i havent 
programmed OO much in last years when i was up with web developing in perl, php 
& jsp.
 
PPS: thumbs up to Stefan for his effort :) i think this 
might be a real chance to spread more wicket around.
 

  
  
  Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eelco 
  HilleniusGesendet: Sonntag, 1. Oktober 2006 23:58An: 
  wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Wicket-user] new 
  initiative for a user guide
  
  yeah, maybe it doesn't need that. Pet store is kind of a best practices 
  project, so I figured it might get in there. Databinder as an alternative 
  would be cool with me too.
  
  Eelco
  
  
  On Oct 1, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Philip A. Chapman wrote:
  Guys,I love spring and use it with all my 
wicket apps. However, should it be a part of the main body of the manual? I 
wouldn't want anyone to get the idea that wicket requires spring in any way. 
Perhaps it would go into an "Advanced" or "Using wicket with other 
frameworks" section that could also include the use of Hibernate, Shades, 
JasperReports and whatever else.At the very least, we should make it 
plain in the manual that spring is not required for the use of wicket, but 
that it's being used in the example app and in the manual for reasons X,Y, 
and Z.Thanks,On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 22:15 +0200, Eelco 
Hillenius wrote: 
Folks,

Stefan Kanev just volunteered to start writing on a new user guide.  
He asked me to give him an idea for a TOC, so here's mine. I'm  
sending this to the list in case people would like to help/ have  
ideas/ ...

---
TOC user guide, Building Wicket Pet Store

1. What Is Wicket
	* Explains Wicket's strong points, philosophy, etc
2. The basics
 * Basic concepts, tells about Application, session, components,  
markup, pages and models
3. Introducing WicketPetstore
	* Describe what we'll be building, including a short look at the  
domain model
	* Setup project & database
	* Setup Spring
	* Setup the skeleton; HTML stubs and non-interactive pages
4. Browsing the store
	* Implement the browsing part: list views, labels and an  
introduction to models (Use compound property model here)
		- Uses services wired using Spring
	* Use resources to display images (with thumbnail resources)
5. Tracking the client
	* Set up a custom session
	* Implement shopping basket tracking, including a panel that  
displays the current items in the basket
6. Working with forms
	* Implement forms for adding items to the basket
	* Implement validation
	* Implement check out functionality
---


Good luck Stefan, and keep us informed!

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2006-10-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
yeah, maybe it doesn't need that. Pet store is kind of a best practices project, so I figured it might get in there. Databinder as an alternative would be cool with me too.EelcoOn Oct 1, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Philip A. Chapman wrote: Guys,  I love spring and use it with all my wicket apps.  However, should it be a part of the main body of the manual?  I wouldn't want anyone to get the idea that wicket requires spring in any way.  Perhaps it would go into an "Advanced" or "Using wicket with other frameworks" section that could also include the use of Hibernate, Shades, JasperReports and whatever else.  At the very least, we should make it plain in the manual that spring is not required for the use of wicket, but that it's being used in the example app and in the manual for reasons X,Y, and Z.  Thanks,  On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 22:15 +0200, Eelco Hillenius wrote:  Folks,

Stefan Kanev just volunteered to start writing on a new user guide.  
He asked me to give him an idea for a TOC, so here's mine. I'm  
sending this to the list in case people would like to help/ have  
ideas/ ...

---
TOC user guide, Building Wicket Pet Store

1. What Is Wicket
	* Explains Wicket's strong points, philosophy, etc
2. The basics
 * Basic concepts, tells about Application, session, components,  
markup, pages and models
3. Introducing WicketPetstore
	* Describe what we'll be building, including a short look at the  
domain model
	* Setup project & database
	* Setup Spring
	* Setup the skeleton; HTML stubs and non-interactive pages
4. Browsing the store
	* Implement the browsing part: list views, labels and an  
introduction to models (Use compound property model here)
		- Uses services wired using Spring
	* Use resources to display images (with thumbnail resources)
5. Tracking the client
	* Set up a custom session
	* Implement shopping basket tracking, including a panel that  
displays the current items in the basket
6. Working with forms
	* Implement forms for adding items to the basket
	* Implement validation
	* Implement check out functionality
---


Good luck Stefan, and keep us informed!

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-01 Thread Philip A. Chapman




Guys,

I love spring and use it with all my wicket apps.  However, should it be a part of the main body of the manual?  I wouldn't want anyone to get the idea that wicket requires spring in any way.  Perhaps it would go into an "Advanced" or "Using wicket with other frameworks" section that could also include the use of Hibernate, Shades, JasperReports and whatever else.

At the very least, we should make it plain in the manual that spring is not required for the use of wicket, but that it's being used in the example app and in the manual for reasons X,Y, and Z.

Thanks,

On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 22:15 +0200, Eelco Hillenius wrote:


Folks,

Stefan Kanev just volunteered to start writing on a new user guide.  
He asked me to give him an idea for a TOC, so here's mine. I'm  
sending this to the list in case people would like to help/ have  
ideas/ ...

---
TOC user guide, Building Wicket Pet Store

1. What Is Wicket
	* Explains Wicket's strong points, philosophy, etc
2. The basics
 * Basic concepts, tells about Application, session, components,  
markup, pages and models
3. Introducing WicketPetstore
	* Describe what we'll be building, including a short look at the  
domain model
	* Setup project & database
	* Setup Spring
	* Setup the skeleton; HTML stubs and non-interactive pages
4. Browsing the store
	* Implement the browsing part: list views, labels and an  
introduction to models (Use compound property model here)
		- Uses services wired using Spring
	* Use resources to display images (with thumbnail resources)
5. Tracking the client
	* Set up a custom session
	* Implement shopping basket tracking, including a panel that  
displays the current items in the basket
6. Working with forms
	* Implement forms for adding items to the basket
	* Implement validation
	* Implement check out functionality
---


Good luck Stefan, and keep us informed!

Eelco

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[Wicket-user] new initiative for a user guide

2006-10-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Folks,

Stefan Kanev just volunteered to start writing on a new user guide.  
He asked me to give him an idea for a TOC, so here's mine. I'm  
sending this to the list in case people would like to help/ have  
ideas/ ...

---
TOC user guide, Building Wicket Pet Store

1. What Is Wicket
* Explains Wicket's strong points, philosophy, etc
2. The basics
 * Basic concepts, tells about Application, session, components,  
markup, pages and models
3. Introducing WicketPetstore
* Describe what we'll be building, including a short look at the  
domain model
* Setup project & database
* Setup Spring
* Setup the skeleton; HTML stubs and non-interactive pages
4. Browsing the store
* Implement the browsing part: list views, labels and an  
introduction to models (Use compound property model here)
- Uses services wired using Spring
* Use resources to display images (with thumbnail resources)
5. Tracking the client
* Set up a custom session
* Implement shopping basket tracking, including a panel that  
displays the current items in the basket
6. Working with forms
* Implement forms for adding items to the basket
* Implement validation
* Implement check out functionality
---


Good luck Stefan, and keep us informed!

Eelco

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