Re: [Wien] Problems with hybrid calculation

2015-03-03 Thread Paul Fons
Hi I did run init_hf_lapw and I saw no sign of errors upon running it, however, 
I ran it from the web interface the first time.  I just restarted the 
calculation using bash and have confirmed the ibz and fbz files exist.
The reason that I am interested in hybrid mode is that I actually have 96 
processors available with infiniband interconnects.  Is a 96 atom system too 
expensive to run with PBE0 even with 96 cores? How much time should I expect 
such a calculation to take?

Paul Fons 


 On Mar 3, 2015, at 4:56 PM, t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 init_hf_lapw executes run_kgenhf_lapw which creates the files
 case.klist_ibz, case.klist_fbz, case.kgen_ibz and case.kgen_fbz.
 So, I don't understand why they are not present in your directory.
 Are you sure that init_hf_lapw ran without problems?
 
 Beside this, I really think that you should forget about running hybrid
 functionals for 96 atoms, in particular with this small number of
 processors (unless you are willing to wait until retirement).
 Depending on the system/properties that you are considering,
 the use of a GGA functional maybe give results which are fairly reliable.
 
 F. Tran
 
 On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Paul Fons wrote:
 
 Hi All,
   I am trying to calculate the density of states of a small cluster of 96 
 atoms.  I am using the hybrid mpi/k-point mode.  The
 calculation ran to completion without problems for PBE.  My .machines file 
 is listed below.  As the cluster is amorphous and
 roughly cubic in shape, I used a 2x2x2 MP mesh.  I then attempted to use the 
 PBE0 hybrid functional.  After using the
 init_hf_lapw script, I started the SCF loop.  The calculation ran for 
 several hours and then stopped.  I have attached the STDOUT
 output below.  I am using intel ifort (15) as well as the intel mpi 
 environment.  I do have a scratch directory set up on this
 same node.
  These calculations were run on a single 24 core machine.  I have five of 
 these machines connected by Infiband and would like to
 scale up the calculation to use several nodes if I can find and solve the 
 hybrid problem as I am aware of the cost of the PBE0
 calculations.
 Any advice?
 Best wishes,
 Paul Fons
 .machines
 lapw0:localhost:24
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 1:localhost:2
 granularity:1
 extrafine:1
 STDOUT
  LAPW0 END
  LAPW0 END
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_fbz': No such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_fbz': No such file or directory
  LAPW1 END
 mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vector': No such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_ibz': No such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_ibz': No such file or directory
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
  LAPW1 END
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_fbz': No such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_fbz': No such file or directory
 mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vectorhf_old': No such file or directory
 forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 1001, file 
 /usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGT/031
 Image  PCRoutineLineSource   
   
 lapw2c 00648027  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 lapw2c 00669FF3  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 lapw2c 00482FEE  outp_ 180  outp.f
 lapw2c 004701EC  l2main_  2125  
 l2main_tmp_.F
 lapw2c 0047CEA5  MAIN__607  
 lapw2_tmp_.F
 lapw2c 0040407E  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 libc.so.6  00343F61ED5D  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 lapw2c 00403F89  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
stop error
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Re: [Wien] supercell calculation not converging

2015-03-03 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva

On 03.03.2015 10:56, Lyudmila Dobysheva wrote:

I meant:

grep :DIS *scf
grep :ENE *scf
grep :MMI001 *scf
grep :MMI005 *scf


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Re: [Wien] DFT of a normal spinel

2015-03-03 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users,

  We have understood the source of error  trying to eliminate
that.

Thanking you,

regards,

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:06 AM, shamik chakrabarti shamik...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear wien2k users,

   We are trying to do DFT simulation on a spinel ferrite (normal
 spinel) having Fe atom distributed over all the octahedral sites (16d).
 However, during initialization we have achieved the following error

  forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 81, file
 /home/venkatesh/Shamik_New/case_V/case_V.rsp
 Image  PCRoutineLineSource

 dstart 004B463A  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 004B3136  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 00469E40  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 0043679E  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 00435CDF  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 004482C1  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 0040FD24  init_ 103  init.f
 dstart 0040EA41  MAIN__  9
  dstart.f
 dstart 004032CC  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 libc.so.6  003D66C1ECDD  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 dstart 004031C9  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
 0.002u 0.000s 0:00.00 0.0% 0+0k 0+16io 0pf+0w
 error: command   /usr/local/WIEN2K_12/dstart dstart.def   failed

 what could be the problem?...is it related to wrong structural information?

 Thanks in advance.

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 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
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[Wien] DFT of a normal spinel

2015-03-03 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users,

  We are trying to do DFT simulation on a spinel ferrite (normal
spinel) having Fe atom distributed over all the octahedral sites (16d).
However, during initialization we have achieved the following error

 forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 81, file
/home/venkatesh/Shamik_New/case_V/case_V.rsp
Image  PCRoutineLineSource

dstart 004B463A  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 004B3136  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 00469E40  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 0043679E  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 00435CDF  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 004482C1  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 0040FD24  init_ 103  init.f
dstart 0040EA41  MAIN__  9  dstart.f
dstart 004032CC  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
libc.so.6  003D66C1ECDD  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dstart 004031C9  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
0.002u 0.000s 0:00.00 0.0% 0+0k 0+16io 0pf+0w
error: command   /usr/local/WIEN2K_12/dstart dstart.def   failed

what could be the problem?...is it related to wrong structural information?

Thanks in advance.

with regards,

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Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
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[Wien] Mo+Si, is a U needed ?

2015-03-03 Thread Laurence Marks
Has anyone looked in to this. I cannot find any obvious references

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Re: [Wien] Mo+Si, is a U needed ?

2015-03-03 Thread Peter Blaha

Mo is a 4d element and its electrons are much more delocalized
than 3d. This gives then a fairly small U and a large bandwidth,
so that common wisdom would be:   no U (or at best a very small one).

Of course, details depend also on the type of compound, i.e. Mo-NN distances,
coordonation, stoichiometry,  and the first thing is always to
make a GGA calculation and check the (partial) DOS and band structure.
If the Mo-derived bands are broad and mixed with Si, --- no U; if they
are flat and reasonably seperated, -- maybe a small U.


Am 03.03.2015 um 23:43 schrieb Laurence Marks:

Has anyone looked in to this. I cannot find any obvious references

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Re: [Wien] restricting magnetic moment of individual atom‏

2015-03-03 Thread Peter Blaha

No, you cannot restrict the magnetic moment of individual atoms.

You can only set the starting moments of each atom for the scf cycle
and eventually the total moment of the cell.

Am 04.03.2015 um 05:19 schrieb محمد ارشد فرحان:

Dear Wien2k Developers and user,
hi,

I'm studying charge transfer mechanisms within LaCaMnO3 which has a mixture of 
Mn+3 and Mn+4 oxidation state.

it is AFM with 4 Mn atoms in unit cell.

I want to fix magnetic moments of Mn atoms individually (i.e., different 
magnetic moments for different Mn atoms)
any or all guidance will be appreciated.

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Re: [Wien] Problems with parallel hybrid functional calculation

2015-03-03 Thread Peter Blaha

I do not understand your.machines file.

It is the worst possible setting you can make:

a) with a 2x2x2 k-mesh you have at most 8 k-points (or in your case 4 ??, 
depending on symmetry),
so using more than 4 lines is absolute MEANINGLESS.

b) The mpi-code has to use a different diagonalization routine, which is a 
priori
almost 2 times slower than the sequential code. This when using 2 cores 
mpi-parallelization
you are probably even slower than in sequential mode.

c) As Fabien Tran pointed out, you should definitely test it with 1 kpoint 
first ,
   or at least use the reduced k-mesh (1 k).

d) As far as I can see, the system is metallic. Hybrid-DFT is quite bad for 
real metals.

e) with 24 cores and 4 k-points a reasonable   .machines file should have 4 
lines with

1:localhost:6


Are you using Wien2k_14.2 ???

What is your $SCRATCH ???   Use SCRATCH=./   for security.

Am 04.03.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Paul Fons:


Hi All,
   I am trying to run a hybrid functional calculation on a 96 atom system using 
PBE0.  I successfully used a PBE functional using the test machines file below 
that is a
hybrid k-point/MPI parallel job.  While I posted a day ago about a failure due 
to missing ibz fbz files when I attempted to use the web interface, this time, 
I strictly
used the terminal.  The output is shown below.  There were no problems with the 
fbz/ibz file generation, however, the run still terminated with an error.  The 
error was
that case.vectorhf_old was not found.  I am not sure where this file show have 
been generated or why it was not.  I expect this calculation to take some time 
to run and am
planning on using 96-cores for the real PBE0 calculation, but at the moment, I 
am in troubleshooting mode.  Does anyone have any idea of what might have gone 
wrong.  I used
a shifted 2x2x2 MP grid and 770 bands as I have 1536 electrons.

Thanks,
  Paul Fons


(.machines file)

lapw0:localhost:24
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
#1:draco-ib:12
granularity:1
extrafine:1


TERMINAL OUTPUT

mats...@gemini.a04.aist.go.jp 
mailto:mats...@gemini.a04.aist.go.jp:/usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGTinit_hf_lapw
:GAP  : -9.   Ry = -.eV  ( metallic )
  Bandranges (emin - emax) and occupancy:
:BAN00759: 7590.3530280.368374  2.
:BAN00760: 7600.3540990.369025  2.
:BAN00761: 7610.3579440.370696  2.
:BAN00762: 7620.3607320.374369  2.
:BAN00763: 7630.3628900.377049  2.
:BAN00764: 7640.3668570.378864  2.
:BAN00765: 7650.3706710.382529  2.
:BAN00766: 7660.3743100.386296  2.
:BAN00767: 7670.3790370.388138  2.
:BAN00768: 7680.3830690.392822  1.61356106
:BAN00769: 7690.3875150.396096  0.38643894
:BAN00770: 7700.3926270.399987  0.
:BAN00771: 7710.3960490.406404  0.
:BAN00772: 7720.3996870.414211  0.
:BAN00773: 7730.4105640.422211  0.
:BAN00774: 7740.4191010.430560  0.
 Energy to separate low and high energystates:   -0.09012


:NOE  : NUMBER OF ELECTRONS  =1536.000

:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.3906577224
You must set NBAND to at least  NB_occ + 1  and you have 1536.00 electrons
edit aCGT.inhf …   (SET NUMBER OF BANDS TO 770)
PS: For very accurate calc. and large NBAND you may have to increase EMAX in 
aCGT.in1 by hand

Prepare k-mesh for HF. Use identical mesh and shift for IBZ and FBZ
Do you want to use a REDUCED k-mesh for HF (saving cpu-time) (Y/n) ?
n
  This script runs   x kgen   twice and generates equivalent meshes in the
  IBZ and FBZ.



KGEN ENDS
KGEN ENDS
How many k-points in full BZ?
If you type 0 you can give 3 numbers for nx,ny,nz
0
How many in x?
2
How many in y?
2
How many in z?
2
Do you want to shift? (yes=1, no=0)
1
1  symmetry operations without inversion
  inversion added (non-spinpolarized non-so calculation)
   NUMBER OF K-POINTS IN WHOLE CELL: (0 allows to specify 3 divisions of G)
  length of reciprocal lattice vectors:   0.246   0.245   0.247   0.000   0.000 
  0.000
   Specify 3 mesh-divisions (n1,n2,n3):
   Shift of k-mesh allowed. Do you want to shift: (0=no, 1=shift)
4  k-points generated, ndiv=   2   2   2
KGEN ENDS
0.002u 0.008s 0:00.07 0.0%0+0k 24+128io 0pf+0w
1  symmetry operations without inversion
   NUMBER OF K-POINTS IN WHOLE CELL: (0 allows to specify 3 divisions of G)
  length of reciprocal lattice vectors:   0.246   0.245   0.247   0.000   0.000 
  0.000
   Specify 3 mesh-divisions (n1,n2,n3):
   Shift of k-mesh allowed. Do you want to shift: (0=no, 1=shift)
8  k-points generated, ndiv=   2   2   2
KGEN ENDS
0.000u 0.008s 0:00.39 0.0%0+0k 72+40io 0pf+0w
aCGT.in0_grr and 

[Wien] Problems with parallel hybrid functional calculation

2015-03-03 Thread Paul Fons

Hi All,
  I am trying to run a hybrid functional calculation on a 96 atom system using 
PBE0.  I successfully used a PBE functional using the test machines file below 
that is a hybrid k-point/MPI parallel job.  While I posted a day ago about a 
failure due to missing ibz fbz files when I attempted to use the web interface, 
this time, I strictly used the terminal.  The output is shown below.  There 
were no problems with the fbz/ibz file generation, however, the run still 
terminated with an error.  The error was that case.vectorhf_old was not found.  
I am not sure where this file show have been generated or why it was not.  I 
expect this calculation to take some time to run and am planning on using 
96-cores for the real PBE0 calculation, but at the moment, I am in 
troubleshooting mode.  Does anyone have any idea of what might have gone wrong. 
 I used a shifted 2x2x2 MP grid and 770 bands as I have 1536 electrons.

Thanks,
 Paul Fons


(.machines file)

lapw0:localhost:24
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
1:localhost:2
#1:draco-ib:12
granularity:1
extrafine:1


TERMINAL OUTPUT

mats...@gemini.a04.aist.go.jp:/usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGTinit_hf_lapw
:GAP  : -9.   Ry = -.eV  ( metallic )
 Bandranges (emin - emax) and occupancy:
:BAN00759: 7590.3530280.368374  2.
:BAN00760: 7600.3540990.369025  2.
:BAN00761: 7610.3579440.370696  2.
:BAN00762: 7620.3607320.374369  2.
:BAN00763: 7630.3628900.377049  2.
:BAN00764: 7640.3668570.378864  2.
:BAN00765: 7650.3706710.382529  2.
:BAN00766: 7660.3743100.386296  2.
:BAN00767: 7670.3790370.388138  2.
:BAN00768: 7680.3830690.392822  1.61356106
:BAN00769: 7690.3875150.396096  0.38643894
:BAN00770: 7700.3926270.399987  0.
:BAN00771: 7710.3960490.406404  0.
:BAN00772: 7720.3996870.414211  0.
:BAN00773: 7730.4105640.422211  0.
:BAN00774: 7740.4191010.430560  0.
Energy to separate low and high energystates:   -0.09012


:NOE  : NUMBER OF ELECTRONS  =1536.000

:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.3906577224
You must set NBAND to at least  NB_occ + 1  and you have 1536.00 electrons
edit aCGT.inhf …   (SET NUMBER OF BANDS TO 770)
PS: For very accurate calc. and large NBAND you may have to increase EMAX in 
aCGT.in1 by hand

Prepare k-mesh for HF. Use identical mesh and shift for IBZ and FBZ
Do you want to use a REDUCED k-mesh for HF (saving cpu-time) (Y/n) ? 
n
 This script runs   x kgen   twice and generates equivalent meshes in the
 IBZ and FBZ.



KGEN ENDS
KGEN ENDS
How many k-points in full BZ?
If you type 0 you can give 3 numbers for nx,ny,nz
0
How many in x?
2
How many in y?
2
How many in z?
2
Do you want to shift? (yes=1, no=0)
1
   1  symmetry operations without inversion
 inversion added (non-spinpolarized non-so calculation)
  NUMBER OF K-POINTS IN WHOLE CELL: (0 allows to specify 3 divisions of G)
 length of reciprocal lattice vectors:   0.246   0.245   0.247   0.000   0.000  
 0.000
  Specify 3 mesh-divisions (n1,n2,n3):
  Shift of k-mesh allowed. Do you want to shift: (0=no, 1=shift)
   4  k-points generated, ndiv=   2   2   2
KGEN ENDS
0.002u 0.008s 0:00.07 0.0%  0+0k 24+128io 0pf+0w
   1  symmetry operations without inversion
  NUMBER OF K-POINTS IN WHOLE CELL: (0 allows to specify 3 divisions of G)
 length of reciprocal lattice vectors:   0.246   0.245   0.247   0.000   0.000  
 0.000
  Specify 3 mesh-divisions (n1,n2,n3):
  Shift of k-mesh allowed. Do you want to shift: (0=no, 1=shift)
   8  k-points generated, ndiv=   2   2   2
KGEN ENDS
0.000u 0.008s 0:00.39 0.0%  0+0k 72+40io 0pf+0w
aCGT.in0_grr and aCGT.inhf and hf-kmesh prepared
Now do the hybrid calculation:   run_lapw -hf  ...  
mats...@gemini.a04.aist.go.jp:/usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGTrun_lapw -hf -p
 LAPW0 END
 LAPW0 END
 LAPW1 END
mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vector': No such file or directory
 LAPW1 END
 LAPW1 END
 LAPW1 END
 LAPW1 END
mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vectorhf_old': No such file or directory
forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 1001, file 
/usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGT/031
Image  PCRoutineLineSource  
   
lapw2c 00648027  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
lapw2c 00669FF3  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
lapw2c 00482FEE  outp_ 180  outp.f
lapw2c 004701EC  l2main_  2125  
l2main_tmp_.F
lapw2c 0047CEA5  MAIN__607  lapw2_tmp_.F
lapw2c 

Re: [Wien] Problems with parallel hybrid functional calculation

2015-03-03 Thread Gavin Abo

 I think you need to be concerned about the first error:


mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vector': No such file or directory


The other errors probably just follow because of it.

What WIEN2k version are you using?  I remember seeing almost the same 
sequence of errors before because of how the SCRATCH variable was set [ 
http://www.mail-archive.com/wien%40zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg09890.html 
].


It might also help you to refer to: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/wien%40zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg10441.html
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[Wien] restricting magnetic moment of individual atom‏

2015-03-03 Thread محمد ارشد فرحان
Dear Wien2k Developers and user,
hi,

I'm studying charge transfer mechanisms within LaCaMnO3 which has a mixture
of Mn+3 and Mn+4 oxidation state.

it is AFM with 4 Mn atoms in unit cell.

I want to fix magnetic moments of Mn atoms individually (i.e., different
magnetic moments for different Mn atoms)
any or all guidance will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Arshad


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*M. Arshad Farhan*EMMG, Physics Division,
PINSTECH, Islamabad
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Re: [Wien] Problems with hybrid calculation

2015-03-03 Thread tran

I still don't understand why the script run_lapw does not find the ibz and
fbz files. Maybe not related to this, what are you specifying for the
SCRATCH directory? With hybrid functionals it is mandatory to use ./
(the directory of the calculation) for SCRATCH because of the files
case.vectorhf(_old).

It is difficult to say for the computation time, but it will certainely
be (too?) huge for a self-consistent calculation. The problem with
Hartree-Fock is that it consists of two loops over orbitals which makes
the calculations very expensive for plane-wave type basis sets.
Nevertheless, you have to consider a few points:

-Do the calculation with only one k-point. Maybe the accuracy is enough,
in particular if your system is non-metallic.

-Use the onsite-hybrid functionals (as cheap as LDA/GGA) if your system
contains strongly localized d- or f-electrons.

-Use a proper .machines file. It is useless to have more lines in
.machines than the number of k-points in the IBZ. For one k-point
calculation this should be only one line (specifying the list of 96
processors for the MPI). More details in the UG.

-If you are interested only in the electronic structure, then you
should consider the diagonal approximation (-diaghf), see the UG,
which consists of only one (and faster) iteration.

F. Tran

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Paul Fons wrote:


Hi I did run init_hf_lapw and I saw no sign of errors upon running it, however, 
I ran it from the web interface the first time.  I just
restarted the calculation using bash and have confirmed the ibz and fbz files 
exist.The reason that I am interested in hybrid mode is that
I actually have 96 processors available with infiniband interconnects.  Is a 96 
atom system too expensive to run with PBE0 even with 96
cores? How much time should I expect such a calculation to take?

Paul Fons 


  On Mar 3, 2015, at 4:56 PM, t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

Hi,

init_hf_lapw executes run_kgenhf_lapw which creates the files
case.klist_ibz, case.klist_fbz, case.kgen_ibz and case.kgen_fbz.
So, I don't understand why they are not present in your directory.
Are you sure that init_hf_lapw ran without problems?

Beside this, I really think that you should forget about running hybrid
functionals for 96 atoms, in particular with this small number of
processors (unless you are willing to wait until retirement).
Depending on the system/properties that you are considering,
the use of a GGA functional maybe give results which are fairly reliable.

F. Tran

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Paul Fons wrote:

  Hi All,
    I am trying to calculate the density of states of a small cluster of 96 
atoms.  I am using the hybrid mpi/k-point
  mode.  The
  calculation ran to completion without problems for PBE.  My .machines 
file is listed below.  As the cluster is amorphous
  and
  roughly cubic in shape, I used a 2x2x2 MP mesh.  I then attempted to use 
the PBE0 hybrid functional.  After using the
  init_hf_lapw script, I started the SCF loop.  The calculation ran for 
several hours and then stopped.  I have attached
  the STDOUT
  output below.  I am using intel ifort (15) as well as the intel mpi 
environment.  I do have a scratch directory set up
  on this
  same node.
   These calculations were run on a single 24 core machine.  I have five of 
these machines connected by Infiband and would
  like to
  scale up the calculation to use several nodes if I can find and solve the 
hybrid problem as I am aware of the cost of
  the PBE0
  calculations.
  Any advice?
  Best wishes,
  Paul Fons
  .machines
  lapw0:localhost:24
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  1:localhost:2
  granularity:1
  extrafine:1
  STDOUT
   LAPW0 END
   LAPW0 END
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_fbz': No such file or directory
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_fbz': No such file or directory
   LAPW1 END
  mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vector': No such file or directory
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_ibz': No such file or directory
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_ibz': No such file or directory
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
   LAPW1 END
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.kgen_fbz': No such file or directory
  cp: cannot stat `aCGT.klist_fbz': No such file or directory
  mv: cannot stat `aCGT.vectorhf_old': No such file or directory
  forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 1001, file 
/usr/local/share/wien2k/Fons/aCGT/031
  Image           

Re: [Wien] Problems with hybrid calculation

2015-03-03 Thread Pavel Ondracka
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:09 +0900, Paul Fons wrote:
 Hi I did run init_hf_lapw and I saw no sign of errors upon running it,
 however, I ran it from the web interface the first time.  I just
 restarted the calculation using bash and have confirmed the ibz and
 fbz files exist.
 The reason that I am interested in hybrid mode is that I actually have
 96 processors available with infiniband interconnects.  Is a 96 atom
 system too expensive to run with PBE0 even with 96 cores? How much
 time should I expect such a calculation to take?
 
 
 Paul Fons 

I've never run such a big hybrid calculation, however I've stumbled upon
article about hybrid calculations for such a system (96 atoms am-HfO2
[1]) and they used a BlueGene cluster with 18TFLOPS output (according to
TOP500 site). 
Its not clear from the article how big part of the system they actually
used, but this should give you some ideas about the cost. 

[1] Broqvist, P.  Pasquarello, A. Band gaps and dielectric constants of
amorphous hafnium silicates: A first-principles investigation. Appl.
Phys. Lett. 90, 082907 (2007).

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