Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Dmitry Chichkov
You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime
stream (filtered)...

Best, Dmitry
On Jun 21, 2011 10:25 PM, "Ed Summers"  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Dario Taraborelli
>  wrote:
>> min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still
there in all three browsers
>
> Ok I made the deltaControl a bit bigger. It looks fine in my Chrome
> and Firefox (on Linux). If it is still a problem for you could I twist
> your arm into opening a ticket with the details of what browser/OS you
> are using, so we don't bug everyone on the list with my lack of CSS
> chops? :-)
>
> https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues
>
> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Ed Summers
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Dario Taraborelli
 wrote:
> min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still there in 
> all three browsers

Ok I made the deltaControl a bit bigger. It looks fine in my Chrome
and Firefox (on Linux). If it is still a problem for you could I twist
your arm into opening a ticket with the details of what browser/OS you
are using, so we don't bug everyone on the list with my lack of CSS
chops? :-)

https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues

//Ed

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Dario Taraborelli
>> - you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
>> - when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no 
>> matter how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)
> 
> Hmm, is this still the case? I fixed the width of the #controls to
> 650px. Hopefully that'll prevent that behavior.

min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still there in 
all three browsers

D


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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Ed Summers
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Dario Taraborelli
 wrote:
> - there's a typo in the dropdown menu (All Wikpedias)

fixed, thanks!

> - you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
> - when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no 
> matter how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)

Hmm, is this still the case? I fixed the width of the #controls to
650px. Hopefully that'll prevent that behavior.

> - there is no legend explaining how the diff size is measured (I know it's 
> trivial, but it would be helpful for people who are not familiar with 
> Wikipedia)

Yes, good idea, I guess I've got some real estate for that.

> - for RTL languages (Arabic, Hebrew) the diff size is displayed incorrectly 
> in Safari (it's appended to the left and, when negative, the minus sign is 
> wrongly positioned)

Thanks, I'm not quite sure how to fix that. But I'll add it to the RTL
ticket that is already in GitHub.

https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues/6

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Ed, 

nice job. Some minor glitches you may want to fix:

- there's a typo in the dropdown menu (All Wikpedias)
- you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
- when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no matter 
how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)
- there is no legend explaining how the diff size is measured (I know it's 
trivial, but it would be helpful for people who are not familiar with Wikipedia)
- for RTL languages (Arabic, Hebrew) the diff size is displayed incorrectly in 
Safari (it's appended to the left and, when negative, the minus sign is wrongly 
positioned)

HTH

Dario

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Ed Summers wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions all (keep them coming). I added the ability
> to filter by language, as well by whether the edit was by a logged in
> user, an anonymous (IP) user, or a bot. I'm not completely happy with
> the icons I chose so if you know of any better ones please let me
> know.
> 
>http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
> 
> //Ed
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> Hi Jodi,
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jodi Schneider  
>> wrote:
>>> It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
>>> projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi
>> 
>> Yes, absolutely. Do you happen to know if their IRC logs are roughly
>> the same as the main language wikipedias? Another good candidate for
>> adding to the Issue tracker if you have time to note it down.
>> 
>> //Ed
>> 
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-21 Thread Ed Summers
Thanks for the suggestions all (keep them coming). I added the ability
to filter by language, as well by whether the edit was by a logged in
user, an anonymous (IP) user, or a bot. I'm not completely happy with
the icons I chose so if you know of any better ones please let me
know.

http://wikistream.inkdroid.org

//Ed

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> Hi Jodi,
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jodi Schneider  wrote:
>> It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
>> projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi
>
> Yes, absolutely. Do you happen to know if their IRC logs are roughly
> the same as the main language wikipedias? Another good candidate for
> adding to the Issue tracker if you have time to note it down.
>
> //Ed
>

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Is use of diacritics common?

2011-06-21 Thread Piotr Konieczny
Nicholas Moreau wrote:
 > 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_titles_without_diacritics
 >
 > I think this category is actually a list of redirect, from the
 > diacritic-less spellings to the diacriticed actual articles. There's
 > over 309 K redirects. Not sure though.

An interesting category, but seems occasionally misused (for example, in 
(ISC)2 somebody confused superscript with a diacritic). This category, 
however, indeed shows redirects from articles without a diacritic to 
those with a diacritic ("The pages in this category are redirects to 
articles whose titles have diacritical marks.") Thanks for the find!

The one that shows redirects for titles with a diacritic to one without 
a diacritic would be 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_titles_with_diacritics
("Category:Redirects from titles with diacritics")
This one has about 6,5k articles.

Thanks for the categories, as imperfect as they are they are nonetheless 
quite useful to know about, and clearly show that Wikipedia does use 
diacritics much more often than not.



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Piotr Konieczny

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one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Is use of diacritics common?

2011-06-21 Thread Nicholas Moreau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_titles_without_diacritics

I think this category is actually a list of redirect, from the
diacritic-less spellings to the diacriticed actual articles. There's over
309 K redirects. Not sure though.

Nick



On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Piotr Konieczny  wrote:

> I wonder if anybody has studied the use of diacritics on Wikipedia?
>
> It is my experience that they are commonly used, but some editors are
> challenging that
> (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)&diff=next&oldid=435539278
> ).
> I wonder if we have any data on that, or if somebody could create and
> run some form of query on the database (as I don't code, this is
> unfortunately beyond my capabilities).
>
> --
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> PhD Candidate
> Dept of Sociology
> Uni of Pittsburgh
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[Wiki-research-l] Is use of diacritics common?

2011-06-21 Thread Piotr Konieczny
I wonder if anybody has studied the use of diacritics on Wikipedia?

It is my experience that they are commonly used, but some editors are 
challenging that 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)&diff=next&oldid=435539278).
 
I wonder if we have any data on that, or if somebody could create and 
run some form of query on the database (as I don't code, this is 
unfortunately beyond my capabilities).

-- 
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PhD Candidate
Dept of Sociology
Uni of Pittsburgh

http://pittsburgh.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus

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