Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Conference vs. journal publication
I think it basically is a different publication model. You probably could have two track (one for final, the other for working papers) so as to address the disciplines which rely on journals as final outlets. Best, Dj 20 lis 2012 20:26, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com napisał(a): Hi Dariusz, For reusing the paper unchanged this is indeed a problem. Journal could be added to the list of mentioned reuse venues--but this still wouldn't imply that the entirety of the paper could be used without change, I suspect. For ACM conferences, there are two types of papers: - archival - non-archival Archival papers are published in the ACM digital library, in the conference proceedings, and are considered final research products to be cited. Non-archival papers are not considered final research products and (as far as I know) don't require copyright transfer. Aside from making papers destined to be used VERBATIM without change in journals 'non-archival', how could this be addressed? -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: hi Jodi, the conferences I attend or follow (e.g. EGOS, AoM, APROS. SFAA) afaik do not typically require signed copyright notices at all, and if they do, the copyright is granted specifically for publishing in the proceedings, and legally resembles a license more, than a full copyright transfer. The problem with your copyright form, as I read it, is that ACM receives and retains all rights (which may be not welcome by some journal publishers, and you never know where eventually you're going to try to publish, so why risk?), and also that it does not specify journal articles as acceptable forms of future reusing the paper. In fact, the copyright form is very similar to the forms used by journals (many of which allow publishing the article on a personal page or in future book works, if proper attribution is provided). This also may indicate to some possible attendants that WikiSym conference publication is an alternative to a journal publication. In my field a conference paper does not count as a publication and is usually treated as a way of improving the paper before submitting it to a journal. Thus the possibility that you're going to use the paper almost verbatim in a journal submission is quite real. These differences possibly may result in WikiSym, as a conference and only in some disciplines, being less popular than it deserves. best, dariusz On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.comwrote: Hi Dariusz, This is interesting, because if we can articulate problems in the copyright notice, we may be able to fix them. Currently, for WikiSym, the ACM Publications copyright form for proceedings is used: *http://www.acm.org/publications/CopyReleaseProc-9-12.pdf* This includes: * The right to reuse any portion of the Work, without fee, in future works of the Author's (or Author's Employer's) own, including books, lectures and presentations in all media, provided that the ACM citation, notice of the Copyright and the ACM DOI are included ... * The right to revise the work. What is a typical copyright notice for conferences you *do* publish in? What rights do you need? In computer science, typically a journal publication arising in part from a conference paper would include new results, or several papers would be combined. -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: This is why conferences such as WikiSym are not very attractive for my field, as they require some copyright transfer (which may effectively make publishing in the final destination difficult). -- __ dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak profesor zarządzania kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Conference vs. journal publication
Can we not just label which of our accepted papers are archival? It seems that some disciplines assume Journal == Archival and Conference != Archival. This is apparently inaccurate in other disciplines so there must be some reason we don't just note which papers are archived and which are not. I don't see it though. -Aaron On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: I think it basically is a different publication model. You probably could have two track (one for final, the other for working papers) so as to address the disciplines which rely on journals as final outlets. Best, Dj 20 lis 2012 20:26, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com napisał(a): Hi Dariusz, For reusing the paper unchanged this is indeed a problem. Journal could be added to the list of mentioned reuse venues--but this still wouldn't imply that the entirety of the paper could be used without change, I suspect. For ACM conferences, there are two types of papers: - archival - non-archival Archival papers are published in the ACM digital library, in the conference proceedings, and are considered final research products to be cited. Non-archival papers are not considered final research products and (as far as I know) don't require copyright transfer. Aside from making papers destined to be used VERBATIM without change in journals 'non-archival', how could this be addressed? -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: hi Jodi, the conferences I attend or follow (e.g. EGOS, AoM, APROS. SFAA) afaik do not typically require signed copyright notices at all, and if they do, the copyright is granted specifically for publishing in the proceedings, and legally resembles a license more, than a full copyright transfer. The problem with your copyright form, as I read it, is that ACM receives and retains all rights (which may be not welcome by some journal publishers, and you never know where eventually you're going to try to publish, so why risk?), and also that it does not specify journal articles as acceptable forms of future reusing the paper. In fact, the copyright form is very similar to the forms used by journals (many of which allow publishing the article on a personal page or in future book works, if proper attribution is provided). This also may indicate to some possible attendants that WikiSym conference publication is an alternative to a journal publication. In my field a conference paper does not count as a publication and is usually treated as a way of improving the paper before submitting it to a journal. Thus the possibility that you're going to use the paper almost verbatim in a journal submission is quite real. These differences possibly may result in WikiSym, as a conference and only in some disciplines, being less popular than it deserves. best, dariusz On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.comwrote: Hi Dariusz, This is interesting, because if we can articulate problems in the copyright notice, we may be able to fix them. Currently, for WikiSym, the ACM Publications copyright form for proceedings is used: *http://www.acm.org/publications/CopyReleaseProc-9-12.pdf* This includes: * The right to reuse any portion of the Work, without fee, in future works of the Author's (or Author's Employer's) own, including books, lectures and presentations in all media, provided that the ACM citation, notice of the Copyright and the ACM DOI are included ... * The right to revise the work. What is a typical copyright notice for conferences you *do* publish in? What rights do you need? In computer science, typically a journal publication arising in part from a conference paper would include new results, or several papers would be combined. -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: This is why conferences such as WikiSym are not very attractive for my field, as they require some copyright transfer (which may effectively make publishing in the final destination difficult). -- __ dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak profesor zarządzania kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Conference vs. journal publication
Jodi, You have a good point about the ease of changing WikiSym and opening a new track, but I wonder why an author might choose to submit a working paper and pay for travel to a conference if they'll end up submitting the final product to a place where they receive credit anyway. Since WikiSym is intended to be a terminal publication venue, I'd like that all who submit (and are accepted) get the appropriate amount of credit for their work, but I understand that it would be naive to expect the world to be able/willing to quickly change. -Aaron On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.comwrote: Hi Aaron, I think Dariusz' suggestion is that we add a conference track for non-archival working papers from social scientists. It is much faster for WikiSym to change than for the recognition environment of all social scientists to change. Even if we mark papers as archival the 'conference' label may still be a downside. What do you think? -Jodi On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfa...@gmail.comwrote: Can we not just label which of our accepted papers are archival? It seems that some disciplines assume Journal == Archival and Conference != Archival. This is apparently inaccurate in other disciplines so there must be some reason we don't just note which papers are archived and which are not. I don't see it though. -Aaron On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: I think it basically is a different publication model. You probably could have two track (one for final, the other for working papers) so as to address the disciplines which rely on journals as final outlets. Best, Dj 20 lis 2012 20:26, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com napisał(a): Hi Dariusz, For reusing the paper unchanged this is indeed a problem. Journal could be added to the list of mentioned reuse venues--but this still wouldn't imply that the entirety of the paper could be used without change, I suspect. For ACM conferences, there are two types of papers: - archival - non-archival Archival papers are published in the ACM digital library, in the conference proceedings, and are considered final research products to be cited. Non-archival papers are not considered final research products and (as far as I know) don't require copyright transfer. Aside from making papers destined to be used VERBATIM without change in journals 'non-archival', how could this be addressed? -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: hi Jodi, the conferences I attend or follow (e.g. EGOS, AoM, APROS. SFAA) afaik do not typically require signed copyright notices at all, and if they do, the copyright is granted specifically for publishing in the proceedings, and legally resembles a license more, than a full copyright transfer. The problem with your copyright form, as I read it, is that ACM receives and retains all rights (which may be not welcome by some journal publishers, and you never know where eventually you're going to try to publish, so why risk?), and also that it does not specify journal articles as acceptable forms of future reusing the paper. In fact, the copyright form is very similar to the forms used by journals (many of which allow publishing the article on a personal page or in future book works, if proper attribution is provided). This also may indicate to some possible attendants that WikiSym conference publication is an alternative to a journal publication. In my field a conference paper does not count as a publication and is usually treated as a way of improving the paper before submitting it to a journal. Thus the possibility that you're going to use the paper almost verbatim in a journal submission is quite real. These differences possibly may result in WikiSym, as a conference and only in some disciplines, being less popular than it deserves. best, dariusz On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.comwrote: Hi Dariusz, This is interesting, because if we can articulate problems in the copyright notice, we may be able to fix them. Currently, for WikiSym, the ACM Publications copyright form for proceedings is used: *http://www.acm.org/publications/CopyReleaseProc-9-12.pdf* This includes: * The right to reuse any portion of the Work, without fee, in future works of the Author's (or Author's Employer's) own, including books, lectures and presentations in all media, provided that the ACM citation, notice of the Copyright and the ACM DOI are included ... * The right to revise the work. What is a typical copyright notice for conferences you *do* publish in? What rights do you need? In computer science, typically a journal publication arising in part from a conference paper would include new results, or several papers would be combined. -Jodi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Dariusz
[Wiki-research-l] Fwd: [Air-L] CFP Theme section: Changing orders of knowledge? Encyclopaedias in transition
Maybe of interest... -Jodi -- Forwarded message -- From: Jutta Haider jutta.hai...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM Subject: [Air-L] CFP Theme section: Changing orders of knowledge? Encyclopaedias in transition To: ai...@listserv.aoir.org CALL FOR PAPERS Theme section: Changing orders of knowledge? Encyclopaedias in transition To appear in the peer-reviewed journal Culture Unbound: Journal of Current Cultural Research Guest editors: Jutta Haider Olof Sundin, Department of Arts and Cultural Sciences, Lund University, Sweden We are witnessing a transition period for encyclopaedias and encyclopaedic knowledge. Since the 1990s alone encyclopaedias have gone through several remediations: from printed volumes to CD-ROM, from CD-ROM to on-line editions on the web and most recently as smartphone applications. Nowadays encyclopaedic knowledge is produced, distributed and used largely within digital networks. Mobile devices make it always available, everywhere. While understandably a lot has been said about Wikipedia and from almost every angle, other contemporary encyclopaedias have not received that much attention in research. Yet they are two sides of the same coin. This theme section wants to contribute to changing the balance somewhat. The modern encyclopaedia, with its roots in the enlightenment, has come to symbolise learning and education. In the West it has since long been a yardstick for what is accepted as public knowledge in a given time and culture. It stands for trustworthiness and stability, at the same time as it has always changed hand in hand with cultural and technical developments. Most recently their production, consumption, use, distribution and significance, all are undergoing profound changes. At the same time as these changes contribute to re-structuring what encyclopaedias and encyclopaedic knowledge are, this type of knowledge is more easily accessible, more in demand and more often referred to than ever before. For this theme section we invite authors to reflect upon the encounter, productive or otherwise, between encyclopaedic knowledge formed by a plethora of traditions and the constantly changing material conditions for production, communication, use and circulation of knowledge. In particular so-called traditional encyclopaedias in their contemporary digital manifestations are in focus. While emphasis on relevant sociotechnical and cultural aspects of the present is encouraged, there will be some room for historical studies that focus on encyclopaedias in transition and for studies on Wikipedia (and other new forms from social and cultural perspectives of encyclopaedias and related phenomena) Topics of interest might be, but are not limited to: • Everyday meaning of encyclopaedias and encyclopaedic knowledge. • Encyclopaedias in the classroom and other educational uses. • Economic aspects and the role of changed business-models. • Critical studies of encyclopaedic knowledge. • Globalisation of knowledge and the role of encyclopaedias. • Production of encyclopaedias and encyclopaedic knowledge. • Encyclopaedias as a yardstick for public knowledge. • Communication of encyclopaedias and encyclopaedic knowledge. • The situatedeness of encyclopaedias in the networked society. We are also looking for relevant book reviews for this issue! Please indicate your interest in contributing by submitting a title and short abstract (approximately 500 words) before 1st April 2013. The deadline for full papers is 1st of October 2013 and publication is planned for the spring of 2014. The articles should between 4,000 and 10,000 words long. Please send enquires, abstracts and finished papers to jutta.hai...@kultur.lu.se or olof.sun...@kultur.lu.se Culture Unbound: Journal of Current Cultural Research is an academic journal for border-crossing cultural research, including cultural studies as well as other interdisciplinary and transnational currents. It serves as a forum with a wider scope than existing journals for cultural studies or other, more specific, subfields of cultural research and it is globally open to articles from all areas in this large field. http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html For a guide for authors please refer to: http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/instructions-for-authors.html. ___ The ai...@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
