Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
This thread is pretty old, and what I'm going to say is hardly research worthy, but I thought I'd mention that I recently made the wikistream background image change based on uploads to the Wikimedia Commons :-) http://wikistream.inkdroid.org/ If you try it out you might have to wait for a moment for a Commons upload to trigger the background to change from the default white. //Ed On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com wrote: The trending articles are really nice, Ed! It would be nice to add tooltips for the bot/person/(whatever the red things are) icons; those icon-based filters are a nice addition! -Jodi On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Hi all, Just a quick heads up to let you know I added some statistics gathering to wikistream.inkdroid.org for displaying trending articles. Trending articles are just articles ranked by how many times they were edited in the current hour or day (relative to GMT). I added similar stats for editors and bots. Since I just deployed the code, the numbers for today aren't complete, but they should be going forward. I wanted to store the stats from the past hour and past 24 hours using a rolling window. But this proved trickier (for me) to do w/ the Redis backend that I was already using for streaming the updates (pub/sub). It should be possible, but I thought I would make a start, and see if it was worth the extra effort. Let me know what you think, if anything comes to mind. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
It makes the trends page unreadable. Could you add a white underlay to the tabulated text so it does not become obscured by a changing unpredictable background? Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Just fixed that, thanks! //Ed On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: It makes the trends page unreadable. Could you add a white underlay to the tabulated text so it does not become obscured by a changing unpredictable background? Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Ed Summers, 22/06/2011 12:14: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov wrote: You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime stream (filtered)... Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-) Looks like the opposite happened. Nemo ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Just verified, it is back up. And actual changes are also coming through [filtered by negative user ratings (calculated using some pretty old wikipedia dump)]. -- Best, Dmitry On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dmitry Chichkov dchich...@gmail.comwrote: Hmm... Somebody actually visited the site. Interesting. I've been running it over a year and I haven't seen the thing used much. Looks like it was only some weird IP change, I've updated the DNS. So it should be back up pretty soon. Anyway the main point was to show some alternative implementation/ideas. And by the way source code is available here http://code.google.com/p/wrdese/ it's a very lightweight Django/JQuery project and can be tweaked fairly easily... -- Best, Dmitry On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Ed Summers, 22/06/2011 12:14: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov wrote: You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime stream (filtered)... Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-) Looks like the opposite happened. Nemo ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov dchich...@gmail.com wrote: You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime stream (filtered)... Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-) //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org wrote: - there's a typo in the dropdown menu (All Wikpedias) fixed, thanks! - you should probably set a min-width for the control panel - when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no matter how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS) Hmm, is this still the case? I fixed the width of the #controls to 650px. Hopefully that'll prevent that behavior. - there is no legend explaining how the diff size is measured (I know it's trivial, but it would be helpful for people who are not familiar with Wikipedia) Yes, good idea, I guess I've got some real estate for that. - for RTL languages (Arabic, Hebrew) the diff size is displayed incorrectly in Safari (it's appended to the left and, when negative, the minus sign is wrongly positioned) Thanks, I'm not quite sure how to fix that. But I'll add it to the RTL ticket that is already in GitHub. https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues/6 //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org wrote: min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still there in all three browsers Ok I made the deltaControl a bit bigger. It looks fine in my Chrome and Firefox (on Linux). If it is still a problem for you could I twist your arm into opening a ticket with the details of what browser/OS you are using, so we don't bug everyone on the list with my lack of CSS chops? :-) https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Hi Jyothis, On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Jyothis E jyothi...@gmail.com wrote: Can we plan for a few filter options for name spaces, time zones, IP edits vs non IP edits, for IP edits, may be geolocation based IP activism on a mao, Also may be languages grouped by continent (may be tie with timezone) etc? Yes, great ideas! Definitely add these ideas in the Issue tracker [1] if you get a chance. //Ed [1] https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Ed, Can we plan for a few filter options for name spaces, time zones, IP edits vs non IP edits, for IP edits, may be geolocation based IP activism on a mao, Also may be languages grouped by continent (may be tie with timezone) etc? Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net My Malayalam Wikipedia page http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis Metawiki page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com My toolserver tools http://toolserver.org/~jyothis woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep and miles to go before i sleep and *lines to go before I press sleep* completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Ed -- Nice. To be clear, I would still appreciate a multi-column look, because for me that is a much clearer visualization of the site's activity than looking at any single edit-size-range. It's like a sparkline: you can get both a sense of flow and a feel for the texture in the dimension of significance. Understood. I'm just not sure I want to make the display that complicated at this point. The code is there for you to use as you wish though. Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending to the side with the word rv, with the article title available on mouseover. Do you have a sense of the mechanics of identifying reverts? Do they show up in an identifiable way in the IRC logs? //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Hi SJ, On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. I am trying out a slider that allows you to set an edit size limit, which should achieve roughly the same thing without the need for additional columns. I haven't done any checking for pages that are immediately reverted though (yet). When I have time next I want to highlight the bots differently, maybe with a small robot icon (let me know if you know of one), and allow them to be filtered. Also I want to add language filtering since several people have asked for that. I'm not quite sure how to do the right-to-left for (ar,fa, ur, and he) since this basically right justifies things, and it's mixed in with other direction text. Ideas welcome on that front. //Ed PS. I'm having some issues keeping the service running. At the moment I'm not sure if its a bug in my code or something lower level in socket.io, express or node just yet... ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Good ideas. Although I'm not sure how much of that I can glean from the IRC messages without starting to hammer on the Wikipedia APIs. //Ed On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like to see another layer of color-coding - background shading based on some measure of wikitrust. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
A separate column for bot edits could be nice too. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Good ideas. Although I'm not sure how much of that I can glean from the IRC messages without starting to hammer on the Wikipedia APIs. //Ed On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like to see another layer of color-coding - background shading based on some measure of wikitrust. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-) Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io. I really just put the lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...) //Ed On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham w...@c2.com wrote: I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed for sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my morning. -- Ward On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote: Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3 column display could work. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Really solid! This looks like the new go-to visualization for demonstrating the pace of changes on Wikipedia. One feature you might consider adding to it would be the option to just see the stream from one language. Another thing that would be good, in my opinion, would be to replace the flags with something like color-coded language abbreviations: en, de, and so on. Thanks much for this. I've already added it to the Wikimedia Education Portal as a resource that teachers can use for getting students excited about Wikipedia when they are running Wikipedia assignments in class. -Sage Ross On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-) Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io. I really just put the lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...) //Ed On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham w...@c2.com wrote: I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed for sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my morning. -- Ward On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote: Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3 column display could work. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Yes, this is amazing, thanks for making it! It's great that it shows bot edits in a different color, as most people just tend to filter them out. This definitely will be my go-to visualization for presentations, both about Wikipedia generally and about bots. Stuart Geiger On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Really solid! This looks like the new go-to visualization for demonstrating the pace of changes on Wikipedia. One feature you might consider adding to it would be the option to just see the stream from one language. Another thing that would be good, in my opinion, would be to replace the flags with something like color-coded language abbreviations: en, de, and so on. Thanks much for this. I've already added it to the Wikimedia Education Portal as a resource that teachers can use for getting students excited about Wikipedia when they are running Wikipedia assignments in class. -Sage Ross On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-) Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io. I really just put the lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...) //Ed On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham w...@c2.com wrote: I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed for sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my morning. -- Ward On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote: Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3 column display could work. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Hello, Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included? Kind regards Ziko 2011/6/16 fox fo...@anche.no: Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format). Good job ;) -- f. I didn't try, I succeeded (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD) () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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This is a b s o l u t e l y amazing. Cheers, Goran On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello, Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included? Kind regards Ziko 2011/6/16 fox fo...@anche.no: Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format). Good job ;) -- f. I didn't try, I succeeded (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD) () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- -- Truth is much too complicated to allow anything but approximations. :: John von Neumann -- http://www.milovanovicresearch.com ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Fancy options: - Choose individual Projects [just look at wiktionary, for instance] - Choose a color scheme or audio scheme to go with it [ rcbirds comes to mind :) ] - Add small languages - Include or ignore bots, period On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included? Kind regards Ziko 2011/6/16 fox fo...@anche.no: Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format). Good job ;) -- f. I didn't try, I succeeded (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD) () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Ed Summers wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. Nice, I certainly agree it is a good screensaver for public presentations and such. Feature request: ability to select feed from only some wikis (for example, En Wikipedia only, or Pl Wikipedia only). -- Piotr Konieczny PhD Candidate Dept of Sociology Uni of Pittsburgh http://pittsburgh.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime
Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits -- with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle. SJ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly interested in digital curation and I've sometimes displayed the IRC activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation strategy. Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream. //Ed ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
