[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

Nemo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Low |Normal
 CC||federicol...@tiscali.it
   Severity|normal  |major

--- Comment #26 from Nemo  2012-11-24 10:37:45 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> Another problem with textarea is, that Enter to submit doesn't work.

(In reply to comment #19)
> I like one-line (move) summary as that can auto complete which saves time when
> I am moving multiple files for similar reasons.

I agree with both, Special:Move is currently very counterintuitive and
user-unfriendly because of this. Switching to Normal/Major.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

Nemo  changed:

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   Keywords||design

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

MZMcBride  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||easy
 CC||bhar...@wikimedia.org,
   ||krinklem...@gmail.com,
   ||o...@wikimedia.org,
   ||sp...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #27 from MZMcBride  2012-11-24 22:54:26 UTC ---
I'm marking this bug as easy because it is an easy bug for any developer to
work on. It needs a very simple changeset in Gerrit to move forward. The
broader question is whether this bug should be marked resolved/wontfix.

(CC'ing a few people who may be interested in the topic. It's basically a
question of usability, consistency, and user expectation.)

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]  changed:

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 CC||to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.co
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--- Comment #18 from Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]  
2012-08-10 09:28:30 UTC ---
*** Bug 39215 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from とある白い猫  2012-08-13 12:15:42 
UTC ---
I like one-line (move) summary as that can auto complete which saves time when
I am moving multiple files for similar reasons.

Why not allow user settings to determine if summary box is going to be a single
or multi-line textbox. Also having a dropdown+optional comment would work
better as  it would allow linking to the policy more effortlessly.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

--- Comment #20 from Bawolff  2012-08-13 12:19:19 UTC ---
>Why not allow user settings to determine if summary box is going to be a single
>or multi-line textbox.

Because of our unrelenting hate of user preferences ;)



Note, its possible using user js to change the box to a single line box, fairly
easily.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

--- Comment #21 from とある白い猫  2012-08-14 15:35:48 
UTC ---
Sure I can java script hack my way on all of life's problems for everything
else there is mastercard. Right? It could also be a simple set of check boxes
allowing user to customize input fields.

Currently as previously mentioned... The page-file move box/edit summary
box/delete box/block box/protection box are different. Only one is multi-lined
other are single-lined. This irks me greatly. I however do not want to force
people who want to use multi-lined text boxes to use single lined.

The reasons of moving a page or file is routine. Far more routine than anything
else. You almost always use the same rationale so WHY is it that it is
multi-lined?

For filemove at least on commons and English wikipedia, drop down bot quoting
the rationale would be helpful. Drop down box input can be determined locally
just like how license list can be adjusted.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Bawolff  2012-08-14 16:18:14 UTC ---
>Sure I can java script hack my way on all of life's problems for everything
>else there is mastercard. Right?

Exactly! I think this should be MW's new slogan.

-

I do agree with comment 8 that the spacing between the reason box and the
destination box should be increased (even if the reason box is kept
multi-line).

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from とある白い猫  2012-08-16 01:52:14 
UTC ---
Seriously? Why do you want to force users to use interface they are not happy
with. I might as well suggest people wanting his multi-lined to use a java
script hack. It is bad enough for users to get used to the MediaWiki markup now
you want them to learn how to use java script to modify interface.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

--- Comment #24 from Bawolff  2012-08-16 12:11:52 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> Seriously? Why do you want to force users to use interface they are not happy
> with. I might as well suggest people wanting his multi-lined to use a java
> script hack. It is bad enough for users to get used to the MediaWiki markup 
> now
> you want them to learn how to use java script to modify interface.

I was being a bit sarcastic in comment 22. I don't want people to modify the
interface with javascript. I want the interface to be reasonable and usable to
all people. For the same reason I don't want user preferences to trigger subtle
changes in the interface (Otherwise we would have 10 billion prefs, and
usability should not be a preference, etc).

I also do not want to force people to use an interface they are not happy with.
However at the same time it is unclear if the change suggested (making it a
single line for everyone) would make more or less people unhappy. Thus I feel
such a change should be done cautiously.

Similarly, I am not neccesarily opposed to making the box one line, adding a
drop down for an auto-reason, and having some extra whitespace between the
reason fields and the move target field. I think such an approach may possibly
make everyone happy. Or perhaps it won't. I suppose we should make mock-ups and
talk to the users and so on.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2012-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627

--- Comment #25 from とある白い猫  2012-08-17 23:09:18 
UTC ---
Alright here is the issue from my perspective. All summary boxes (move, delete,
block, edit, whatever) to me should always be single-lined since it will be
displayed as a single line anyways.

Mind that this is merely my preference and no one should be forced to use my
preference so I acknowledge that some people may want it multi-lined. If we
force a single-line summary field on them they will of course complain.
Additional stuff such as drop down boxes would probably be warmly welcomed
since move actions are typically routine.

The default used to be single lined as far as I know. It was changed without
asking users (which alone is fine since some people wanted it this way).

I would support mock-ups and perhaps enable it on some wiki like test.wikipedia
for users to actually see.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||theevilipaddr...@hotmail.de

--- Comment #17 from Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]  
2011-11-01 15:12:31 UTC ---
*** Bug 32121 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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DieBuche  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from DieBuche  2011-05-03 12:42:55 UTC ---
Another problem with textarea is, that Enter to submit doesn't work.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-05-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Bawolff  2011-05-10 05:20:27 UTC ---
Note, Jan Paul Posma fixed the reason gets cut off issue in r86846.

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2008-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Mike.lifeguard   2008-12-18 
04:20:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Or else we should make other reason boxes multiline?  A larger box is 
> > needed to
> > hold a full summary, otherwise you have to scroll.  On Special:Movepage we 
> > have
> > lots of screen real estate, so we can afford to have a nicely-sized reason 
> > box.
> >  We only arguably need small reason boxes when we have a huge text area 
> > right
> > above it, and even then I'm not sure we do.  (Certainly not if we allow 
> > longer
> > edit summaries than we do now.)
> > 
> 
> Apparently there is talk of allowing longer edit summaries etc, so perhaps
> everything will become multiline. Someone should decide what is going to 
> happen
> here, and then make everything match up one way or the other.
> 

Even if that does happen (and I guess nothing has happened on that front since
that comment), then we should probably have a one-line field, but longer. I've
seen no problems with one-line fields on the deletion form, edit summary, block
reason etc etc


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2008-12-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brion Vibber  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||br...@wikimedia.org




--- Comment #4 from Brion Vibber   2008-12-19 22:46:20 UTC 
---
The comment/reason field on Special:Movepage was turned into a textarea in
r10436 (August 2005) "to reduce confusion between destination title and reason
input boxes".

I'm not sure the pressures have particularly changed here, so I'm not inclined
to just change it back. :)


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2008-12-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from daedalus...@gmail.com  2008-12-19 22:51:20 UTC ---
It's fine the way it is, making it smaller will only increase confusion.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gurch  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED




--- Comment #6 from Gurch   2009-01-07 20:47:59 
UTC ---
This was fixed as a side effect of r45517, which addressed bug 16921.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brion Vibber  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|FIXED   |WONTFIX




--- Comment #7 from Brion Vibber   2009-01-08 18:53:38 UTC 
---
r45517 was reverted in r45571, as it doesn't properly address bug 16921 and
causes a usability regression here.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mike.lifeguard  changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |




--- Comment #8 from Mike.lifeguard   2009-01-08 
19:10:41 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> r45517 was reverted in r45571, as it doesn't properly address bug 16921 and
> causes a usability regression here.
> 

Isn't there some other way to have this be one line while making things clearer
for the end-user to avoid mishaps? Perhaps the spacing between the destination
and log entry boxes could be increased, or maybe next to one another on the
same line would be preferable. I don't think having it as a multiline input is
necessarily the only or even the best way of doing this.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mike.lifeguard  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Mike.lifeguard   2009-01-23 
17:23:26 UTC ---
*** Bug 17130 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Mike.lifeguard   2009-01-23 
17:24:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> *** Bug 17130 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
> 

Ermm, bug 17130 comment 3 has a patch, which I thought would be moved. Someone
who knows how should perhaps do so.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2009-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Brion Vibber   2009-01-26 20:58:05 
UTC ---
No need for a patch if it just replicates the change in SVN linked above.


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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-01-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Happy-melon  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Happy-melon  2011-01-30 
16:08:33 UTC ---
*** Bug 26935 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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fole...@netcourrier.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Normal  |High
   Severity|enhancement |major

--- Comment #13 from fole...@netcourrier.com 2011-02-05 13:50:56 UTC ---
I think this is a major bug. Cutting a user's text without warning that the
text is going to be cut if the text is "too" long, is a major bug in my view. I
don't see this as mere "enhancement". 

Can you imagine the same happened with this very "Additional comment" box on
bugzilla ?

At least here you would be able to add a second comment below to replace the
cut text. But is it reasonable to tell people to move the wiki page back and
move it again with a shorter text when they experience such difficulty ?

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[Bug 13627] The move reason field should be one line only

2011-02-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|High|Normal
   Severity|major   |normal

--- Comment #14 from Bawolff  2011-02-07 03:07:38 UTC ---
We have JS for the edit summary box to limit it to 255 bytes (taking utf8 into
consideration). It shouldn't be that hard to adapt it to the textarea on move.
I'll try and look into doing that sometime in the nearish future (but if
someone wants to beat me to it, by all means).

As for the "textareas are ugly, I only want a one line input" part of this bug,
I think that is a wontfix.

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