[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2014-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
A year later...

Developing an extension? Isn't enough editing wiki pages (improving the
documentation) and perhaps the sidebar (improving UX)?

Different Wikimedia projects have different ways to handle user feedback and
problems reported. en.wiki has
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us , es.wiki has that piece of
JS, other (most) projects basically will address any kind of user feedback via
the Village Pump, and perhaps an email address. Could one tool work for all? In
different languages?

It would be useful to know more about these users getting confused about where
to report problems. Maybe that would help us improving the current
documentation and channels.

Also, for what is worth we are discussing the possibility of moving Bugzilla et
al to Phabricator, where users could follow deep links from wiki pages, log in
with their Wikimedia credentials, and report problems with certain fields
pre-filled. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Phabricator

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
So what are the exact criteria required to consider this bug report FIXED?

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to comment #17)
 So what are the exact criteria required to consider this bug report FIXED?

Some mixture of comment 10, comment 11, comment 12, comment 15, and comment 16,
I guess.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-03-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-03-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-03-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr changed:

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2012-10-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2012-10-18 16:19:48 UTC 
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Yes, it's a different system:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibugs.js

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2012-10-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2012-10-17 17:45:11 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #13)
 And Erik told me that
 MediaWiki has a built-in JavaScript library for providing feature-level
 feedback through a pop-up, and posting that feedback to a wiki page. As noted
 above, I think it's currently only used by Upload Wizard and Visual Editor 
 (the
 latter brokenly).

It's used in eswiki for all kind of article errors (see «Notificar un error» in
the sidebar). Unless Erik was refering to a different feedback popup.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2012-10-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2012-10-18 01:14:28 UTC ---
It think it is about another one:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.feedback.js;h=634d02b14f0e45f46b54affa66f887e6a6ac71ba;hb=HEAD

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2012-10-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org 2012-10-15 22:42:31 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 Currently if a Wikimedia wiki has an issue, the venues for users to report the
 issue are limited and esoteric. These mostly include IRC and/or Bugzilla.
 
 There should be a proper user interface for reporting problems with the site
 that's available from the sidebar of any Wikimedia wiki.

Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but there are Feedback pages per
extension, such as
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Visual_editor/Feedback
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_Wizard_feedback

And Erik told me that
MediaWiki has a built-in JavaScript library for providing feature-level
feedback through a pop-up, and posting that feedback to a wiki page. As noted
above, I think it's currently only used by Upload Wizard and Visual Editor (the
latter brokenly).

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2011-11-30 15:13:34 UTC 
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I think we should be able to work on something to do this. Write up an
extension that starts with What sort of issue do you have?

1. Typo or mistake in article
2. Page is a copyright violation
3. Technical issue with the site

Then the user could be presented with a form that guides them through reporting
effectively. Each type of problem could go to a different backend (eg: tech
issues to BZ, copyright issue to e-mail OTRS, etc)

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org 2011-11-30 
15:18:43 UTC ---
Just throwing in a couple notes  sketches I worked on last year on the topic.
The goal was to have a unified interface dispatching to onwiki forums / OTRS /
etc. depending on the issue and the choices of the user.

Just in case it can be helpful:
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multimedia:%22Report_an_issue%22_wizard

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-11-30 15:45:59 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #10)
 I think we should be able to work on something to do this. Write up an
 extension that starts with What sort of issue do you have?

What would you do when people misfile their reports?
Filed as 'Mistake in article': I get gibberish in the pdf export of [[foo]] (a
backtrace). 'Technical issue': There should be an arbitration commitee for this
wiki.
I'm sure final users will get much more creative.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-07-13 
00:25:59 UTC ---
*** Bug 29853 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-05-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-05-13 
21:30:23 UTC ---
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425663#c23 and followup for
relevant information.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-10 
21:53:52 UTC ---
 This is about problem reporting generally.

Bug 27001 address that problem.  Any solution to Bug 27001 will necessarily
require a solution to this bug if only to avoid creating confusion from Where
do I report this issue?

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-03-11 00:13:42 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 This is about problem reporting generally.
 
 Bug 27001 address that problem.  Any solution to Bug 27001 will necessarily
 require a solution to this bug if only to avoid creating confusion from Where
 do I report this issue?

I'm sorry, I'm not following. Bug 27001 is about Bugzilla/MediaWiki
integration. I don't think anyone intends for Bugzilla to ever be used as a
place where a random user can say hey, this article seems like a copyright
violation or other similar article issue complaints. Is that how you envision
the future of Bugzilla? If so, you're absolutely correct and this is a
duplicate. But I have a very strong inclination that _nobody_ wants to see
general article issues being reported in Bugzilla, so some other system would
be needed (the subject of this bug). Something more along the lines of
OTRS/MediaWiki integration would be closer, I think, though not quite there.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-11 
00:23:28 UTC ---
 Is that how you envision the future of Bugzilla?

No, but the idea is to give people a single place of reporting *all* problems
and then having a way to feed those reports into OTRS or Bugzilla.  I think a
problem reporting wizard would be one possible way to solve this.  And then,
when someone says I found a problem with Wikipedia, you just direct them to
the problem reporting wizard instead of worrying about which system their
problem goes into.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-03-11 00:29:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 Is that how you envision the future of Bugzilla?
 
 No, but the idea is to give people a single place of reporting *all* problems
 and then having a way to feed those reports into OTRS or Bugzilla.

Ah, okay. That's not how I read bug 27001 at all. I read it as a means to
integrate two specific software systems for the purpose of making tech problem
reporting easier. If it's not as narrow as that, feel free to re-resolve this.

 I think a problem reporting wizard would be one possible way to solve this.  
 And then, when someone says I found a problem with Wikipedia, you just 
 direct them to the problem reporting wizard instead of worrying about which 
 system their problem goes into.

Yes, agreed. That's what I was pushing for with this bug (as opposed to the
more narrow vision I saw in bug 27001). The brainstorming page at the English
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kvetch) sort of outlines
this. Some sort of sidebar pop-up/Special page extension with a wizard that
users could use would be ideal here, I think.

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-11 
00:33:48 UTC ---
*** Bug 27001 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-10 
04:40:06 UTC ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 27001 ***

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[Bug 27852] Wikimedia wikis need better issue reporting system

2011-03-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-03-10 04:45:40 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 
 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 27001 ***

Un-duping for now. Bugzilla integration doesn't seem to meet the scope of this
bug. This is about problem reporting generally. Bugzilla integration with
MediaWiki would make tech-problem reporting easier, but wouldn't do much to
address other issues, as far as I can tell. For example, this page contains a
copyright violation or this page is libelous. A generic problem reporting
interface might solve both bugs.

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