Re: [Wikidata] [Bigdata-developers] Listing named graphs in Wikidata service
Hi Stas,
On 21-04-2017 15:04, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
You agree with me that this query :
`select distinct ?g { graph ?g {?s ?p ?o} }` seems to be a valid SPARQL
query, but throws an error in WDQS service [1].
It is a valid SPARQL query, but what you're essentially asking is to
download whole 1.8b triples in a single query. There's no way we can
deliver this in one minute, which is current constraint on queries,
neither we want to enable queries like this - they are very
resource-intensive and serve little purpose.
If you want to work with huge data sets or import the whole data, you
may look either into getting the dump download and processing it with
offline tools like Wikidata Toolkit[2], or using our LDF server[1] which
is lightweight and allows you to work with the data much more efficiently.
While not having a strong opinion on the question of whether or not WDQS
should support graph queries if it doesn't have named graphs, I disagree
on the minor technical point that that query requires streaming all
data. It simply asks for a unique list of all named graphs. Typically
that will be much smaller than the entire data.
(Of course a naive implementation might stream everything to compute the
query, but that's another matter I think.)
Cheers,
Aidan
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Re: [Wikidata] [Bigdata-developers] Listing named graphs in Wikidata service
Hi!
> You agree with me that this query :
> `select distinct ?g { graph ?g {?s ?p ?o} }` seems to be a valid SPARQL
> query, but throws an error in WDQS service [1].
It is a valid SPARQL query, but what you're essentially asking is to
download whole 1.8b triples in a single query. There's no way we can
deliver this in one minute, which is current constraint on queries,
neither we want to enable queries like this - they are very
resource-intensive and serve little purpose.
If you want to work with huge data sets or import the whole data, you
may look either into getting the dump download and processing it with
offline tools like Wikidata Toolkit[2], or using our LDF server[1] which
is lightweight and allows you to work with the data much more efficiently.
[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/User_Manual#Linked_Data_Fragments_endpoint
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Toolkit
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Re: [Wikidata] [Bigdata-developers] Listing named graphs in Wikidata service
Thanks Stas!
It's clear that a user might ask any type of query from an endpoint
according to her needs.
My concern goes further on whether such queries are valid or not in the
underlying RDF graph (in this case BLZ) regarding SPARQL 1.1 spec.
You agree with me that this query :
`select distinct ?g { graph ?g {?s ?p ?o} }` seems to be a valid SPARQL
query, but throws an error in WDQS service [1].
Any thoughts on this?
Best,
Ghislain
[1] https://goo.gl/hdJwUk
El jue., 20 abr. 2017 a las 21:54, Stas Malyshev ()
escribió:
> Hi!
>
> > I wanted to test the use of the queries below to list named graphs (if
> > any) in wikidata service [a]. I've tried them without success:
>
> We do not use any subgraphs in WDQS, so I don't think that query would
> produce much of a useful result.
>
> --
> Stas Malyshev
> smalys...@wikimedia.org
>
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Hi! > I wanted to test the use of the queries below to list named graphs (if > any) in wikidata service [a]. I've tried them without success: We do not use any subgraphs in WDQS, so I don't think that query would produce much of a useful result. -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
