Re: [Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
> > > One can always use the talk page, like with all the templates > > documenting usage and monitoring. > > True. With additional benefit that you can use nice templates like > SPARQL and SPARQL2 to display the queries. > talk page templates are definitely a valid alternative. The main benefit I see in storing SPARQL query examples via a property of a property is that they'd become discoverable via SPARQL themselves, so for example you could allow users to find interested queries limited to a set of properties with given characteristics (basically allowing filtering on all properties of properties). Might be nice, but we need a good way to present the query in the UI (see > below). > Agreed. I imagine, from a design perspective, these "helper" properties (like P1855) that are not really part of the data model could be grouped together and presented via a dedicated UI element, like we do for identifiers. > > I think it may be a good idea to start thinking about some way of > > storing queries on Wikidata maybe? On one hand, they are just strings, > > on the other hand, they are code - like CSS or Javascript - and storing > > them just as strings may be inconvenient. Maybe .sparql file extension > > handler like we have for .js and .json and so on? If you could store queries, you could also store queries for each item that > is about a list of things, so that the query returns exactly the things > that should be in the list ... could be useful. I hadn't thought of this use case, but I too see how it might be useful. Are there other good examples of properties that take code snippets as a value? ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
Hi! > One can always use the talk page, like with all the templates > documenting usage and monitoring. True. With additional benefit that you can use nice templates like SPARQL and SPARQL2 to display the queries. -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
Dario Taraborelli, 23/08/2016 20:35: would it stretch too much the scope of properties of properties? One can always use the talk page, like with all the templates documenting usage and monitoring. Nemo ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
On 23.08.2016 21:03, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! Relaying a question from a brief discussion on Twitter [1], I am curious to hear how people feel about the idea of creating a a "SPARQL query example" property for properties, modeled after "Wikidata property example" [2]? Might be nice, but we need a good way to present the query in the UI (see below). This would allow people to discover queries that exemplify how the property is used in practice. Does the approach make sense or would it stretch too much the scope of properties of properties? Are there better ways to reference SPARQL examples and bring them closer to their source? I think it may be a good idea to start thinking about some way of storing queries on Wikidata maybe? On one hand, they are just strings, on the other hand, they are code - like CSS or Javascript - and storing them just as strings may be inconvenient. Maybe .sparql file extension handler like we have for .js and .json and so on? If you could store queries, you could also store queries for each item that is about a list of things, so that the query returns exactly the things that should be in the list ... could be useful. Markus ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Re: [Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
Hi! > Relaying a question from a brief discussion on Twitter [1], I am curious > to hear how people feel about the idea of creating a a "SPARQL query > example" property for properties, modeled after "Wikidata property > example" [2]? Might be nice, but we need a good way to present the query in the UI (see below). > This would allow people to discover queries that exemplify how the > property is used in practice. Does the approach make sense or would it > stretch too much the scope of properties of properties? Are there better > ways to reference SPARQL examples and bring them closer to their source? I think it may be a good idea to start thinking about some way of storing queries on Wikidata maybe? On one hand, they are just strings, on the other hand, they are code - like CSS or Javascript - and storing them just as strings may be inconvenient. Maybe .sparql file extension handler like we have for .js and .json and so on? -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
[Wikidata] A property to exemplify SPARQL queries associated with a property
Relaying a question from a brief discussion on Twitter [1], I am curious to hear how people feel about the idea of creating a a "SPARQL query example" property for properties, modeled after "Wikidata property example" [2]? This would allow people to discover queries that exemplify how the property is used in practice. Does the approach make sense or would it stretch too much the scope of properties of properties? Are there better ways to reference SPARQL examples and bring them closer to their source? Dario [1] https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/768101464572997632 [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1855 ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata