Re: [Wikidata] Mexico / Building up Wikidata, country by country

2015-06-15 Thread Maarten Dammers

Andrew Gray schreef op 15-6-2015 om 14:00:

The map can also be used to highlight other country-specific differences,
such as the unusually large amount of orphan items in The Netherlands and
UK.

WLM-related historic site imports, I think...
That's probably the 60.000 Rijksmonumenten (historic sites) and that bot 
run where someone created an item for *every* street in the Netherlands.


Maarten

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Re: [Wikidata] Mexico / Building up Wikidata, country by country

2015-06-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
The italians have categories for people who died in a particular place..
Given that it is in Italian, Italian places get a lot of attention :)
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 11 June 2015 at 11:40, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:

 On 2015-06-11 08:59, Markus Krötzsch wrote:

 Hi Yaroslav,

 On 10.06.2015 22:01, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

 On 2015-06-10 17:46, Markus Krötzsch wrote:

 On 10.06.2015 17:05, Magnus Manske wrote:

 Some country-specific things to do on Wikidata:

 https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/?country=96

 Wikidata by country stats:
 http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=290


 Another country-based observation is that Italian locations are so
 much more popular than those in almost any other country. Here is a
 map showing only those items with at least 33 (!) sitelinks:


 http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s5219191/vizidata/#d=0m=itemsl=enf=1e=33_336c=48526g=0.8h=1.2o=1p=3x=19.599609375y=47.32393057095941z=5



 I have just zoomed in my area (Delft, the Netherlands), and I see that
 many places are missing on the map, for instance, Naaldwijk,
 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1613459 , which has coordinates in both
 Wikidata and English Wikipedia. There must be smth wrong with loading
 data.


 As I wrote in my email, the link that I sent has a filter set to show
 *only items with 33 or more site links*. The item you mention only has
 6 site links, so it is not shown. You can change the filter by
 clicking on the histogram at the top (drag interval bounds in lower
 view, fine-tune intervals using the arrow buttons on the top; click
 lower view once to reset the filter).


 Hi Markus,

 thanks, now I see the point. This possibly means that the info about
 Italian communes is more bot-friendly than the one from other countries,
 and mass-creation of such articles is easier. I can not otherwise imagine
 why such a big difference could occur.


 Cheers
 Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikidata] Mexico / Building up Wikidata, country by country

2015-06-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On 2015-06-11 08:59, Markus Krötzsch wrote:

Hi Yaroslav,

On 10.06.2015 22:01, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

On 2015-06-10 17:46, Markus Krötzsch wrote:

On 10.06.2015 17:05, Magnus Manske wrote:

Some country-specific things to do on Wikidata:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/?country=96

Wikidata by country stats:
http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=290


Another country-based observation is that Italian locations are so
much more popular than those in almost any other country. Here is a
map showing only those items with at least 33 (!) sitelinks:

http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s5219191/vizidata/#d=0m=itemsl=enf=1e=33_336c=48526g=0.8h=1.2o=1p=3x=19.599609375y=47.32393057095941z=5




I have just zoomed in my area (Delft, the Netherlands), and I see that
many places are missing on the map, for instance, Naaldwijk,
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1613459 , which has coordinates in both
Wikidata and English Wikipedia. There must be smth wrong with loading 
data.


As I wrote in my email, the link that I sent has a filter set to show
*only items with 33 or more site links*. The item you mention only has
6 site links, so it is not shown. You can change the filter by
clicking on the histogram at the top (drag interval bounds in lower
view, fine-tune intervals using the arrow buttons on the top; click
lower view once to reset the filter).



Hi Markus,

thanks, now I see the point. This possibly means that the info about 
Italian communes is more bot-friendly than the one from other countries, 
and mass-creation of such articles is easier. I can not otherwise 
imagine why such a big difference could occur.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikidata] Mexico / Building up Wikidata, country by country

2015-06-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch

Hi Yaroslav,

On 10.06.2015 22:01, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

On 2015-06-10 17:46, Markus Krötzsch wrote:

On 10.06.2015 17:05, Magnus Manske wrote:

Some country-specific things to do on Wikidata:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/?country=96

Wikidata by country stats:
http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=290


Another country-based observation is that Italian locations are so
much more popular than those in almost any other country. Here is a
map showing only those items with at least 33 (!) sitelinks:

http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s5219191/vizidata/#d=0m=itemsl=enf=1e=33_336c=48526g=0.8h=1.2o=1p=3x=19.599609375y=47.32393057095941z=5




I have just zoomed in my area (Delft, the Netherlands), and I see that
many places are missing on the map, for instance, Naaldwijk,
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1613459 , which has coordinates in both
Wikidata and English Wikipedia. There must be smth wrong with loading data.


As I wrote in my email, the link that I sent has a filter set to show 
*only items with 33 or more site links*. The item you mention only has 6 
site links, so it is not shown. You can change the filter by clicking on 
the histogram at the top (drag interval bounds in lower view, fine-tune 
intervals using the arrow buttons on the top; click lower view once to 
reset the filter).


Here is a link to a piece of map where the item you are looking for can 
be seen:


http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s5219191/vizidata/#d=0m=itemsl=enf=1e=0_336c=1392.8387096774195g=3.1h=1.2o=1p=3x=4.247932434082031y=51.97155731422007z=12

The item you are looking for is highlighted. When zooming in very far, 
it is a good idea to increase the size of the dots on the map (see Map 
Settings), since items are less dense on this zoom level.


To get used to the interface and the options, I would suggest you to 
pick the births dataset (upper left). It's smaller (=faster) and the 
histogram with birth year numbers is probably clearer than the sitelinks 
data.


Regards,

Markus



Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikidata] Mexico / Building up Wikidata, country by country

2015-06-10 Thread Magnus Manske
Some country-specific things to do on Wikidata:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/?country=96

Wikidata by country stats:
http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=290


On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:11 PM James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Further to what Lydia has written, I have also had a session proposal
 accepted for Wikimania:


 https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Building_up_Wikidata,_country_by_country


 Per the current schedule, it looks as if there is going to be a
 Wikidata morning on Saturday in Room D:


 10 am -- Lydia
  State of Wikidata - giving more people more access to more
 knowledge one edit at a time

 (10:30 coffee break)

 11:00 am -- panel, led by Lydia
  Ask Us Anything About Wikidata

   All your questions about Wikidata will be answered. Editors and
 the development team will be around to answer your most pressing
 questions about Wikidata.


 11:30 am -- panel
  Building up Wikidata, country by country

   What can national chapters and local Wiki-projects do to build up
 Wikidata?

   This session will ask a panel from different countries what works
 to build up awareness and skills, and how to deepen the quality of
 Wikidata's coverage of a particular part of the world -- its people,
 places, history, events, organisations, culture, and every other related
 thing that ought to have a detailed comprehensive Wikidata item.

   *  What face-to-face events work, to build up knowledge and an
 active community?
   *  How to assess current coverage, identify priority areas, and
 help groups to self-organise to improve them?
   *  Are there special 'tentpole' projects the country has
 identified -- eg highlight focus areas, or particularly good data
 sources to align or assimilate?
   *  What are the best tools and workflows to get things done?


 (12:30 lunch)


 I should stress that I proposed this session because these are questions
 that I would really like to hear some thought about -- not because
 they're questions I think I have any answers to!

 I had hoped we might have been able to build up some experience in the
 UK, as to how to build up community structures to help editors to work
 on things -- but it hasn't really gone forward here.

 On the other hand, I have been hugely impressed by some of the
 initiatives that Dutch-language Wikipedia seems to have taken, that
 people have mentioned in the last few weeks, to get people to make sure
 articles they have worked on on nl-wiki are properly described on
 Wikidata; and also what seems to have been quite an active and
 successful community engagement programme by Wikimedia France.

 I'm sure there are a lot of other good tales to tell from other
 countries/languages as well.

 So it would be great to have an idea of who might be likely to be going
 to be at Wikimania in Mexico who could take part in this workshop/panel,
 and present some of the things that have been going on -- and also
 (whether you're going to be in Mexico or not), what other tales are
 there, from different countries, that people should hear about ?


 (for one thing, something I don't know, do we even know what information
 has been harvested from Wikipedia categories for
 people/places/things/events related to a particular country?  And how
 comprehensive that harvesting has been?)

 This session will only be as good as the community can make it, so it
 would be really good to know what ought to be in it.


 All best,

 James.




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