[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T249447: Correct gender display for qualifiers
Noe updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249447 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Noe Cc: Hsarrazin, VIGNERON, Aklapper, Noe, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T249447: Correct gender display for qualifiers
Noe created this task. Noe added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION Hello, I am discovering Wikidata. I am very sorry if this issue have been discussed already but I haven't been able to found it. Well, I am contributing in French and I am adding some members of music bands. So I created entities for each members, adding them has humans (P31 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P31> is Q5) and feminines (P21 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P21> is Q6581072). Then when I add those to the band under `has part` (P527 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P527>). The issue is that I add a qualifier `object has role` (P3831) and I write "chanteuse" (French for a feminine singer), the correct Qid is suggested but the wrong term is displayed: "chanteur" (French for a masculine singer). I felt I made a mistake and tried again several time, thinking I made wrong. I imagine it may be delicate to deal with more than one word by language for a Qid but it is the reality of human languages, at least for those with gender systems (and classifiers in a way). It seems odd to display the wrong text when the entity (in my example, "singer", Q177220) have a fulfilled `female form of label` (P2521 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2521>) and the gender of the property is also fulfilled. The data is here, but not displayed as it should be. I hope I made myself clear and I am welcome any comment or suggestion about this issue. Kindly, TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249447 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Noe Cc: Aklapper, Noe, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T204713: Provide a Wikibase instance where we can import Wikitionaries materials and that can be queried from Wiktionaries
Noe added a comment. I support the idea of experimenting a separate Wikibase instance for Wiktionaries texts. Something not in CC0 so not in Wikidata, but integrating full text material such as definitions, examples and etymology, as there are finely written in Wiktionaries. All the part that are protected by copyright laws (or droit d'auteur or equivalent laws). Some people outside of the wikiverse want to reuse definitions and etymologies in prose (like website that compile dictionaries such as encyclopedie.fr) and there will be none in Wikidata (only glosses). This proposal of a separate instance will resolve this issue and participate to show the power of Wikibase for more than data. It could be a support for Wiktionary and wiktionarians, when Wikidata is not yet a support to Wiktionaries but rather a separate project aiming other purposes for other customers. The kind of support Psychoslave mentioned in the first message is not something planed by Wikidata product team and both instances could be complementary. I know there is no Wiktionaries product manager, I am sad about that, but if one exist now, it should be the person to which this proposal is directed. Finally, I know for sure Wiktionaries data can be integrated in databases easily, as shown by GLAWI (for French) and Dbnary (for twelve languages). So, a separate instance under CC BY-SA could be filled without much investment of time and there will be voluntaries to do so, as it the material they made and care for years. I am convince WikidataLex (or any name this instance would have) is a robust project with a clear scope.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204713EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NoeCc: Noe, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Psychoslave, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, jberkel, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
