[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  In T124191#7320983 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7320983>, 
@Manuel wrote:
  
  > Awesome! \o/
  > Thank you again @lucamauri!
  
  Glad to have been able to contribute with useful stuff :-)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  In T124191#7304540 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7304540>, 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > Looks good to me on beta
  
  {icon heart}

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T289564: Inconsistent behavior of mw.wikibase.getDescription

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  In T289564#7304884 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289564#7304884>, 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > I don’t think there’s any Wikibase issue here. Wikibase returns the 
description as plain text without modification; if you want to show it on the 
page, it’s your responsibility as the module author to escape it, probably by 
calling `mw.text.nowiki()` on it.
  
  You are right, no Wikibase issue, I understand this now.
  On the other hand, don't you think it's maybe worth to better explain this in 
the documentation? I mean, what I learnt in the current discussion is not 
exactly straightforward to someone approaching LUA coding with Wikibase library.
  This behavior has nothing to do with Wikibase – I now understand – but I 
think at first sight it might //seem// to be Wikibase-related, so maybe the 
mechanism can be better explained in the documentation.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T289564: Inconsistent behavior of mw.wikibase.getDescription

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  In T289564#7304947 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289564#7304947>, 
@matej_suchanek wrote:
  
  > Your custom code is exactly the "workaround". Still, the explanation is 
principally correct, it simply says that if you //return// `{{…}}` from a 
module, it won't be expanded. But when you call `frame:expandTemplate`, you 
expand it yourself and don't return any `{{…}}` anymore. (There is an even 
easier and more evil way, using `frame:preprocess`.)
  
  Thanks. The explanation on the manual was a little misleading, at least to 
me, and it was my understanding that, at the time of the function return, 
template expansion was not possible any longer //at all//.
  I see now that the meaning was different.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T289564: Inconsistent behavior of mw.wikibase.getDescription

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  In T289564#7304746 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289564#7304746>, 
@matej_suchanek wrote:
  
  > Therefore the module cannot use these features in its output text.
  
  Given this statement, then this cannot be the explanation, because I made it 
work on my own wiki with some custom code.
  First I take the output of `mw.wikibase.getDescription()` and then I run 
`frame:expandTemplate` on the template present in the text, searching for the 
`{{…}}`. So it's still possible to expand templates after `getDescription` 
returns.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T289564: Inconsistent behavior of mw.wikibase.getDescription

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  In T289564#7304628 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289564#7304628>, 
@matej_suchanek wrote:
  
  > This is not an "inconsistency" of `mw.wikibase.getDescription`, but of 
Scribunto itself
  
  Thanks, never noticed this
  
  > (and I believe it's on purpose).
  
  Even if it's on purpose, IMHO it doesn't make completely sense because is 
treating similar wikicode in different ways.
  In any case, even if it is decided that this is the correct behavior, it is 
necessary to properly document it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T289564: Inconsistent behavior of mw.wikibase.getDescription

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  In T289564#7304584 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289564#7304584>, 
@Agabi10 wrote:
  
  > I might be wrong or even misunderstanding the issue,
  
  I think you got ir right :-)
  
  > but the description in wikibase shouldn't have any wikilinks nor templates. 
I don't know if that applies to formatting too,
  
  I would say no for formatting: consider a description like `This is a 
'''very''' important item`: it is a meaningful formatting regardless the wiki 
it is written in.
  
  > but wikilinks and templates would make them only useful for the wiki in 
which they were added and completely useless for third party users
  
  Not necessarily.
  First of all consider the case where the proper name of a person is linked or 
a general concept: if an item is relevant for a certain wiki, likely the links 
within the description are as well.
  Second, let's remember that Wikibase covers installations big and small: not 
all the instances are Wikidata: I believe there are several cases where 
Wikibase instance supports just a few wiki, or even one alone.
  Third, predefined interwiki prefix might be used as well.
  
  Anyway, my main point here is that there should be a consistent rationale 
(whatever it might be) behind the function's behavior and it should be clearly 
explained in the doc.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  In T124191#7283810 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7283810>, @Izno 
wrote:
  
  > Regardless of the use of messageBox or similar, tables must not be used for 
layout as in the current patch.
  
  This topic was not brought up before, but surely this is a best practice.
  The box now is constructed using DIV elements.
  
  After a conversation with @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE I also resolved to not 
inject markup directly, but to construct it using `Html::rawElement`
  
  I uploaded the final patch and just received the `+2`

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  In T124191#7223479 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7223479>, 
@lucamauri wrote:
  
  > Quick recap of the open tasks related to this modification as suggested 
here and in Gerrit (by @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE and @Ladsgroup): 
  > [cut]
  
  With some unexpected complications, I finally completed the modifications on 
the code itself and on testing: Jenkins just gave me the `+2`
  So to summarize:
  
  > - Implement the new message with link
  
  {icon check} done with the modifications discussed above
  
  > - Add database icon image as internal resource
  
  {icon check} done using OOUI icon with the informational `i` for the time 
being
  
  > - possibly submit it as new graphics in OOUI
  
  {icon check} done in T287329 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287329>, 
hopefully this will be accepted and could be integrated in a future update of 
this extension
  
  > - remove CSS class `mw-articleplaceholder-createarticle-buttons` for the 
now unused "Create an article" button's DIV
  
  {icon check} done as planned
  
  > - Use `Html::messageBox()` to envelop the messagebar
  
  {icon ban} As stated above, I frankly don't see any advantage in implementing 
this, on the contrary it seems to complicate the code. I haven't read any 
additional comments in weeks, so I assume is safe to drop this suggestion
  
  I would say the work is done now — @Manuel correct me if I am wrong — and I 
hope the patch can be accepted.

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  In T124191#7223479 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7223479>, 
@lucamauri wrote:
  
  > - Use `Html::messageBox()` to envelop the messagebar
  
  @Ladsgroup I've looked into `messageBox()` as you suggested, but I am not 
sure I got your point.
  As far as I understood, `messageBox()` cannot be used directly, but only as 
`errorBox()`, `successBox()`, and `warningBox()`, right?
  If this is correct, then I fail to understand the advantage of using these 
methods: none is suitable out-of-the-box for the kind of message we want to 
show here, so it seems we would need to tweak CSS classes to make it look like 
we want.
  At first sight it seems to me we are adding complexity without any advantage: 
evidently something escapes me, so I kindly ask you if you can elaborate on 
your suggestion with more details.
  
  Thanks

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  @manuel you originally proposed the message text
  
  > This is an automatic view based on data from [repoSiteName with link to 
source entity].There is no article on this topic yet, but you can help to 
create one.
  
  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE correctly pointed out that I arbitrarily changed the 
link like
  
  > This is an automatic view based on [data from repoSiteName with link to 
source entity].There is no article on this topic yet, but you can help to 
create one.
  
  My line of reasoning is that the link points to the specific item ("data") 
and not the homepage of //repoSiteName// so I thought about including words 
"data from" in the link.
  Is this acceptable to you, or shall I stick to the original text?
  
  Thanks

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  In T124191#7229363 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7229363>, 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > That sounds like you’re using an old Wikibase version?
  
  Indeed I am: I usually stick to LTS version so I am on 1.35.
  
  > `WikibaseClient::getRepoLinker()` exists since 1.36.0-wmf.34 (before this 
change 
<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/668102> it 
was `newRepoLinker()`).
  
  That did the trick.
  **Thanks** once again for your help, I will now continue the work on the 
modification.

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  In T124191#7224419 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7224419>, 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > I uploaded a new patch set to inject and use a `RepoLinker`.
  
  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE thanks a lot, but it seems I have a problem in my 
test envirnoment. I implemented all the changes as you wrote in the patch, but 
I keep getting:
  
…/extensions/ArticlePlaceholder/includes/Specials/SpecialAboutTopic.php: 
Call to undefined method Wikibase\Client\WikibaseClient::getRepoLinker()
  
  at the row with the code
  
WikibaseClient::getRepoLinker( $mwServices )
  
  Any hint on what am I doing wrong?
  Thanks.

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  In T124191#7209588 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7209588>, 
@Manuel wrote:
  
  > Hi @lucamauri, pretty cool, thank you! I made a suggestion about the 
message text. What do you think? Would you like to make the change or should 
the Wikidata team?
  
  It seems I have underestimated the complexity of this task. While modifying 
the message is straightforward, generating the link is not. 
  My line of reasoning is that I should instantiate the 
`WikibaseClient::getRepoLinker` class to call the `getEntityUrl()` function, 
but I am unable to do so.
  Anyone can point me to documentation or code examples on how use the function?
  Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot.

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  Quick recap of the open tasks related to this modification as suggested here 
and in Gerrit (by @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE and @Ladsgroup):
  
  - Implement the new message with link
  - Add database icon image as internal resource
- possibly submit it as new graphics in OOUI
  - remove CSS class `mw-articleplaceholder-createarticle-buttons` for the now 
unused "Create an article" button's DIV
  - Use `Html::messageBox()` to envelop the messagebar

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

[lucamauri]

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  In T124191#7209588 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7209588>, 
@Manuel wrote:
  
  > Hi @lucamauri, pretty cool, thank you! I made a suggestion about the 
message text. What do you think? Would you like to make the change or should 
the Wikidata team?
  
  Thanks :-)
  I think your proposal makes much sense. I'll work on implementing it in the 
coming days.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  In T124191#7202897 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124191#7202897>, 
@Bugreporter wrote:
  
  > The term "data" is very obscure to new users. We should explicitly mention 
that the data come from Wikidata.
  
  "data" might be obscure, but "Wikidata" is not applicable. Remember this 
extension can be installed on any Wikibase-enabled Mediawiki instance, not only 
Wikidata.
  We might use `repoSiteName` to name the instance.
  I see you made a suggestion earlier in this conversation and I also see that 
@Lydia_Pintscher and @Jan_Dittrich should have contributed with text, so I am 
not sure how the decision process should be here.
  At any rate, the text is contained in a message so it's easily editable as 
soon as we reached a decision here.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

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  For my own purpose, I am implementing this interface element on my own 
Wikibase instance.
  I choose a layout along the lines of the design shown in option A, so I am 
claiming this task and I will soon post my code contribution.
  I hope you'll find it satisfying.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285186: Show property number in the ArticlePlaceholder's AboutTopic special page

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285186: Show property number in the ArticlePlaceholder's AboutTopic special page

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary**: I would like to easily see the numeric identifier of a 
property listed in the `AboutTopic` special page of #articleplaceholder 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/articleplaceholder/>
  
  **Steps to reproduce**:
  
  - Call the special page for a specific item on a linked Wikibase instance, 
like `Special:AboutTopic/Q64`
  - Properties are listed in boxes:
- the name of the property (like `Some property`) is an `` element
- the number of the property (like `P12`) is not shown
  
  **Use case(s)** : Seeing the actual property number is useful for a number of 
reason, for instance for debugging LUA modules or templates that are acting of 
Wikibase data. It also provides the reader with more information.
  
  **Proposed solution** : The more unobtrusive, but still easily accessible, 
way to do this is to set the `title` property of the `` so a tooltip is 
shown.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T250634: Clarification on Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties to improve documentation

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  In T250634#7119260 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250634#7119260>, 
@danshick-wmde wrote:
  
  > As I see it the manual page now contains answers to questions 1 (client) 
and 2 (it can be anywhere on the internet) and the "sp_ver" question (no 
functional impact). If @lucamauri is content we can close this ticket.
  
  Thanks @danshick-wmde for your work on the documentation: in my opinion this 
is much clearer now, I just added a few words and a reference to the source 
code to better explain how and where the page content is processed.
  I can only guess all is clear to other interested users as well, but I agree 
we can close the ticket.
  
  Just out of personal curiosity, can you kindly point me to the documentation 
regarding the `sp_ver` parameter? I saw your explanation in the page and I'd 
like to learn more.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280787: Modify the regex that evaluates the SortedProperties page

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  Please also note there is already a task open to discuss about documentation 
improvement: T250634 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250634>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280787: Modify the regex that evaluates the SortedProperties page

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  In T280787#7052813 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280787#7052813>, @hoo 
wrote:
  
  > Just wanted to note that using a template for all the properties on the 
page surely wont work (these are just to many),
  
  Thanks for pointing that out, we might add this to the manual page 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties> to 
inform the user.
  
  > but IMO this is probably still useful for highlighting specific properties 
and for wikis which have fewer entries then Wikidata.
  
  Actually this is the reason I came up with this modification proposal in 
first place: I devised it for my own Wikibase instance where I have around 100 
properties. So I thought about sharing for other users with similarly small 
custom Wikibase.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280787: Modify the regex that evaluates the SortedProperties page

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  As per @Michael suggestion, I have modified the new regex for a stricter 
match, so it now looks like:
  
^[*#]+\h*(?:\[\[(?:d:)?Property:)?(?:{{[a-zA-Z]+\|)?(P\d+\b)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280787: Modify the regex that evaluates the SortedProperties page

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  As explained in the manual page for Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties>, 
the order of properties in a Wikibase item is determined by parsing the 
`MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties` page with the regular expression
  
^[*#]+\h*(?:\[\[(?:d:)?Property:)?(P\d+\b)
  
  This matches rows with the plain property name or starting with a link, like:
  
* P7
* [[Property:P8]]
  
  I propose to modify the regex so it can match templates as well:
  
* P7
* [[Property:P8]]
* {{NiceTemplate|P8}}
  
  This would allow the creation of a standard template to present the 
properties in a more readable and / or more detailed way to the user, still 
preserving the functionality of the page.
  The proposed regex is:
  
^[*#]+\h*(?:\[\[(?:d:)?Property:)?(?:{{.*|)?(P\d+\b)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267098: Message "Wikibase-repo-name" should refer to WikiBase

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  I also wrote an explanation in the manual 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration#Optional_settings_2>:
 as `repoSiteName` is a variable like many others, I think it is necessary to 
explain the user how and why to customize it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T258184: Call to undefined method Wikibase\Client\Hooks\OtherProjectsSidebarGenerator::buildProjectLinkSidebarFromItemId()

[lucamauri]

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  In T258184#6396602 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258184#6396602>, 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > I think we can close this. The method is restored, its test is back, and we 
have an integration test in ArticlePlaceholder.
  
  I don't think this problem is fixed.
  In my own installation Ihave final MW 1.35 an the latest ArticlePlaceholder 
version, but I am getting the error right now:
  
Error from line 261 of 
/var/www/mw/wt/extensions/ArticlePlaceholder/includes/AboutTopicRenderer.php: 
Call to undefined method 
Wikibase\Client\Hooks\OtherProjectsSidebarGenerator::buildProjectLinkSidebarFromItemId()

Backtrace:

#0 
/var/www/mw/wt/extensions/ArticlePlaceholder/includes/AboutTopicRenderer.php(128):
 ArticlePlaceholder\AboutTopicRenderer->setOtherProjectsLinks()
#1 
/var/www/mw/wt/extensions/ArticlePlaceholder/includes/Specials/SpecialAboutTopic.php(170):
 ArticlePlaceholder\AboutTopicRenderer->showPlaceholder()
#2 
/var/www/mw/wt/extensions/ArticlePlaceholder/includes/Specials/SpecialAboutTopic.php(131):
 ArticlePlaceholder\Specials\SpecialAboutTopic->showContent()
#3 /var/www/mw/wt/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(600): 
ArticlePlaceholder\Specials\SpecialAboutTopic->execute()
#4 /var/www/mw/wt/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(635): 
SpecialPage->run()
#5 /var/www/mw/wt/includes/MediaWiki.php(307): 
MediaWiki\SpecialPage\SpecialPageFactory->executePath()
#6 /var/www/mw/wt/includes/MediaWiki.php(940): MediaWiki->performRequest()
#7 /var/www/mw/wt/includes/MediaWiki.php(543): MediaWiki->main()
#8 /var/www/mw/wt/index.php(53): MediaWiki->run()
#9 /var/www/mw/wt/index.php(46): wfIndexMain()
#10 {main}

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267537: Update the query promoted on the frontpage

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  On the front page of the site there is an image with the comment
  
  > Wikibase instances indexed in the registry as of December 2018. See here 
for current data.
  
  But in fact the query located at this address 
<https://wikibase-registry-query.wmflabs.org/#%23defaultView%3ATimeline%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FcreationDate%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Flogo%29%20AS%20%3Fimage%29%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP11%20wd%3AQ20%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP5%20%3FcreationDate%20.%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP8%20%3Flogo%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FcreationDate>
 seems to be updated a year ago:
  F33516895: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F33516895>
  
  Is it possible to update this now and perhaps schedule it for update 
regularly?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T259691: Configuring sitelinks in Wikibase

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  Dear @Johentsch  , I' ve recently setup a WikiBase on my own as well, so let 
me try to help you, if I can. Please note I installed it manually not using the 
containerized version, but I hope I can still be of help Let me try to help 
you, if I can.
  
  > what the differences are between the architectural decisions (enable 
Repo/Client only, both, or none)
  
  As far as I intend the system:
  
  - **none** does not make sense, you would not use WikiBase at all
  - **Repo-only** if you setup an infrastructure similar to WikiMedia's 
WikiData: meaning you have a dedicated "data" installation of MediaWiki with 
WikiBase Repo to provide as a central repositry of data, and you have a 
separate, client-only, version to consume data. This is how I setup my system 
as well, incidentally.
  - **both** is having data and the wiki consuming them in the same MediaWiki 
installation.
  
  Am I right in understanding that you are setting up things like this last 
case? Meaning you have a single MediaWiki instance (based on a single database) 
with WikiBase Repo and Client installed and enabled?
  
  It seems to me you also have an issue with the `sites` configuration: I think 
the `filepath` should be
  
--filepath=https://muwi.epfl.ch/w/\$1
  
  please check your setup if this is correct
  
  Let's start clarify these few points and then let's go on troubleshooting.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T261074: No reference for errors in WikiBase API

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  In the documentation for WikiBase API 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/API#Possible_errors> it is written that
  
  > Possible errors for any module can be found using 
`action=paraminfo=modulename`.
  
  This is actually not true because, calling the `paraminfo` action, only 
parameters are shown.
  Can anyone point to the right action to get errors descriprion?
  
  Thanks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T261073: Wikibase/Configuring languages

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  In a custom MediaWiki installation, in the upper pane where Labels are 
listed, there is a link named //Configure// that points to 
Help:Extension:Wikibase/Configuring_languages 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Wikibase/Configuring_languages>.
  This page should explain how to set the default languages shown into that 
pane, but the page completely fails at this. In the chapter "Changing the 
defaults" there is some generic notes on how to improve language recognition 
for WikiData, but no helpful information on configuring custom WikiBase.
  Can someone provide the actual explanation on how to do this configuration? 
Or point to proper documentation if it exist already?
  
  Thanks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T219022: remove sitelink groups from Wikibase Registry

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  In T219022#6243578 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219022#6243578>, 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > Could you please clarify what you'd specifically want to use them for on 
the Wikibase Registry?
  
  I would like to link the site to relevant sites on other Wikimedia projects.
  
  > Because linking to Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects like it is done on 
Wikidata is not possible there.
  
  I understand this is not possible //now//, but isn't this only a matter of 
configuration?
  Shouldn't we simply set the `sites` table and corresponding lines in 
configuration files to make it works?
  I mean, Wikibase Registry is a regular MediaWiki instance with Wikibase 
extension and we should be able to configure SiteLinks functionality the usual 
way, or am I wrong here?
  
  Thanks for explaining
  
  Luca

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T219022: remove sitelink groups from Wikibase Registry

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  Dear @Lydia_Pintscher , may I suggest tot keep the sitelink functionality on 
Wikibase Registry?
  I do not completely agree that sitelink are not needed: I would point out 
that sitelink would help in getting more information on a specific item, 
without duplicating information, but easily linked them on Wikipedia and other 
sister projects wikis.
  You are totally right they looks ugly now, but this is simply because they 
are not properly configured.
  
  I would take care of fixing them (or removing, if there are really no 
alternatives), but I am unsure how to so.
  Is WB registry handled on Gerrit? Or how can I modify the configuration files 
and - possibly - the `sites` table?
  
  Thanks for any hints you might provide
  
  Luca

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T250634: Clarification on Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties to improve documentation

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  Dear @Bugreporter may I kindly ask you if you can still help with the other 
questions above? Or can you mention someone that can help?
  So I can finish the work on the instruction page and close this task
  
  Thanks!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T231188: documentation for configuring sitelink section on Items for 3rd party installations

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  Dear @danshick-wmde , just as a brief introduction, please be informed that I 
started about one year ago to work on my own WikiBase instance: as I was an 
absolute beginner I scanned all the documentation I could find.
  Along the way I found myself stuck several times in configuring WikiBase and, 
where I personally found the documentation lacking information, I tried to 
integrate it with information to help fellow beginners like me.
  
  So I am working on this, albeit very slowly, as mentioned in other tickets:
  
  - T206966 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206966>
  - T218282 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282>
  - T242946 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242946>
  - T250634 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250634>
  - T240189 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240189>
  
  I read in this ticket that it is required to provide documentation for 
SiteLink configuration, but, as far as I can tell, we already fixed this 
T218282 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282> so I am a little puzzled.
  I am wondering: is that documentation not up to standard? It does not seems 
to me to be the case as answers to all the requirements.
  Is it not in the right place? I am not sure if we intend to keep putting all 
the information in the "Installation" and "Configuration" pages on 
MediaWiki.org or if we want to setup another location or another standard for 
it.
  learningwikibase.com <http://learningwikibase.com> for instance, is another 
resources I found somewhat useful, but information there are not always 
complete and not always up-to-date with edits on MediaWiki documentation.
  
  Potentially this task could be closed immediately, as far as I can see, but 
the fact the the problem was raised in first place, led me to believe that 
maybe the current documentation is not up to a wanted content and format 
standard.
  IMHO we should first of all clarify such a standard, before proceed writing 
documentation.
  
  Sorry for the long post and thanks for listening to me.
  I am and will be very happy on contributing here where I can.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T231188: documentation for configuring sitelink section on Items for 3rd party installations

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  Dear @Lydia_Pintscher I would work on this task, as I believe the 
documentation is pretty much there and only needs minimum adjustment.
  But I need one clarification before starting: in what form should this 
documentation be written and where should it be placed?
  Are wikitext and the Installation manual 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation> ok?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T231188: documentation for configuring sitelink section on Items for 3rd party installations

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  We discussed this at length in T218282 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282>. Is the current documentation in 
the installation manual 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation#Enable_Sitelinks> not 
clear enough?
  In that section of the manual we wrote a clear explanation of what a SiteLInk 
is, how to set them up and how to disable them.
  It seems to me it answers all the questions mentioned here.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T240189: Document $wgWBRepoSettings['statementSections'] in /docs/options in Wikibase

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  For your information, I just added a brief explanation of this feature in the 
"Advanced Configuration" page 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration#Optional_settings>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T250634: Clarification on Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties to improve documentation

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  In T250634#6069875 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250634#6069875>, 
@Bugreporter wrote:
  
  > This means the MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties in Wikidata is used in 
all Wikibase clients. clients do not have Wikibase Repository installed, so 
they do not use wgWBRepoSettings.
  
  Pardon me, this is still not completely clear to me.
  You are saying that this `wgWBClientSettings` is to be placed into 
Repository's configuration file and then inherited by the clients?
  Or that a separate `wgWBClientSettings` needs to be placed on each Clients' 
configuration?
  
  > You can place it in any place (page name) in any wiki. The only thing is 
make sure the setting is pointed to that page. Note if the page is publicly 
editable, this may be a target of vandalism.
  
  Understood, thanks.
  
  > See 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/52e59d940192da6cf0e3ac90b65e57918cdcd6ff/lib/includes/Store/WikiTextPropertyOrderProvider.php
  > The actual regex is ^\*\h*(?:\[\[(?:d:)?Property:)?(P\d+\b) which matches a 
string (case-insensitive):
  
  Crystal clear, now, Thanks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T250634: Clarification on Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties to improve documentation

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  As I am willing to use mw.wikibase.getPropertyOrder 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua#mw.wikibase.getPropertyOrder>
 method in a Module on my local WikiBase instance, I ended up on the manual 
page for Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Wikibase-SortedProperties> .
  There are a few things regarding this page that IMHO are unclear and its use 
is not properly explain. I would like to improve documentation, but I need 
input from an expert to clarify things.
  
  **1)** First of all, is this setting a "Client" or a "Repository" one?
  On the manual page, the example is:
  
$wgWBRepoSettings['propertyOrderUrl'] = $wgServer . 
'/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties=raw_ver=1';
  
  while in the WikiData own configuration (found here on Gerrit 
<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/326133/2/wmf-config/Wikibase-production.php>
 after reading T149540 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149540>), the string 
is written as:
  
$wgWBClientSettings['propertyOrderUrl'] = 
'https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties=raw_ver=1';
  
  So it is unclear if this configuration has to set once in the Repository 
installation, being valid for all the Clients connected, or if it needs to be 
set on each of the Clients.
  
  **2)** Second question: is there limitation on where the 
`MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties` can be placed?
  Can it be either on Repository or Client MediaWiki?
  
  **3)** Third question: in the manual it is written
  
  > For best results, simply follow the conventions present in Wikidata's 
Wikibase-SortedProperties page 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties=edit>.
  
  I would better specify what these conventions are.
  My induction is that the parsing work this way
  
  - each row //not// starting by `*` is ignored
  - if a row start with `*P…` or `* P…`, the property is extracted, ignoring 
everything following the first space after `P…`
  
  Am I correct in these assumptions?
  
  I would kindly ask anybody with a deep understanding of this mechanism to 
contribute here, so documentation can be improved for the sake of all the users.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T242946: Improve Wikibase/Installation/Advanced configuration instructions

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  As I am setting up a Wikibase Repository/Client pair instance with the latest 
version, I would like to start improve documentation.
  I actaully started a few hours ago by clarifying 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration#Required_settings
  
  Everyone's input is surely welcome and useful

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T242946: Improve Wikibase/Installation/Advanced configuration instructions

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Advanced Wikibase installation instruction as writen here 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration are 
incomplete, not always clear and in some point outdated.
  As this document is of paramount importance for a user trying to install his 
or her own Wikibase instance, I propose we fix the documentation.
  
  Overall the document is not bad and not that outdated, so I think this is a 
review that can be done in a reasonable amount of time. The aim in my opinion 
should be:
  
  - Check all the links and fix them
  - Read all the instructions and insure they are clearly understandable to 
Wikibase newcomers, in fact they should be able to //explain// wikibase 
workings to a beginner
  - Consolidate redundant information on the same concept into a single 
explanantion (for instance see //Required settings// and //Available settings//)
  
  At the end of this revision, we can remove the `Update` banner and 
simplifying the Wikibase setup.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T185313: mw.wikibase.entity:getBacklinks (lua API in wikibase client)

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  As this function would be very significant for a project of mine, I would 
like to work on it.
  I am willing to put effort in implementing such a function, but I have some 
difficulties to get started with it.
  I read above that the function already exist in Wikibase API, so I started by 
looking at the documentation here 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/Wikibase/master/php/classWikibase_1_1Repo_1_1Api_1_1QuerySearchEntities.html
 but it seems I am a little lost.
  Can somebody point me in the right direction so then I can start the work on 
it?
  
  Thanks for any help you might provide

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T218282: documentation for sites setup

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  In T218282#5115798 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282#5115798>, 
@Michael wrote:
  
  > Rethinking the structure of the documentation sounds reasonable. However, 
rewriting it from scratch would certainly be a large effort. Thus, I would 
suggest that we get this specific piece of information merged first, so that we 
can point other users with that problem to it. Also, @Lydia_Pintscher is the 
one that decides how to move forward with the documentation and how to 
prioritise it with respect to our other tasks.
  
  
  I understood this would be a huge feat, but still worthy in my opinion 
because the platform will be as useful for the user as they find it easy to 
configure and use. But I am nobody in this project to push for anything.
  Anyway, if @Lydia_Pintscher decides for a plan like this, I would surely be 
glad to help
  
  > Mh, you might be right there. I added some more information about direct 
access to it. What do you think?
  
  I like the way you put it down, very helpful at first sight
  
  > I dropped it for now. Especially, if we also talk about direct access, then 
it might start to get confusing. Because, even if one sets a sitelink to a 
Wikipedia page, one obviously could not use direct access to link back to the 
custom repo-wiki. Now it should be easier to follow.
  
  This is maybe a candidate for the //Advanced// page. The box is named 
automatically as `Wikibase-sitelinks-yourgroupnamehere` so it's ugly, but very 
understandable to the user. After the user has set the environment up, they 
might want to polish a little and adjust the title of the box: at that point 
looking in the //Advanced// page sounds reasonable.
  
  > Feel free to rephrase any of it if you think of something :)
  
  I'll be a little busy today, but I'll do my best to have a closer look to it 
and contribute where I can 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T218282: documentation for sites setup

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  In T218282#5114533 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282#5114533>, 
@Michael wrote:
  
  > @lucamauri Your feedback is very welcome and helpful. Thank you!
  
  
  My pleasure if I can help any other user 
  
  > Yes, I intended to prune the other "Advanced" config to remove duplication. 
I suggested adding this content to the main installation page, because the Item 
pages feel actively broken/incomplete without it, since the sitelinks are such 
a large section on the Item page.
  
  Surely I agree with you. May I suggest to work on the documentation on higher 
level? I would start from scratch writing down all the relevant topics in the 
config (like they are sections heading), choose if they belong to //Basic// or 
//Advanced// and then fill the content. To a newcomer like me, the 
documentation looks only partly coordinated and very often just a bunch of 
notes. Much of the text can and should be reused, but the structure can be 
improved, I think. Does in your opinion make sense to start such an effort? 
Maybe I can help as well with the notes I took along the way.
  
  > Yes, some introduction is a good idea. I would like to focus here more on 
getting the sitelinks on the Item pages to work and have a guide about Direct 
Access on the advanced config page or somewhere else.
  
  To this point I must respectfully disagree as – at least in my personal 
experience with Wikibase – it was not easy to grasp the relations between SL 
and DA at first glance. If we go on with the respective guides in two separate 
pages, please let's have a clear hyperlink between the two
  
  > No, `Extension:WikimediaMessages` is only needed if one wants to use the 
default/example settings. Apparently, I should phrase this clearer. Or maybe 
drop it completely, because 3rd Party installations will likely never use it.
  
  I would rephrase it. Can I directly contribute to the subpage in case I can 
think of something else?
  
  > True, I mainly intended it as a verification step, as the SiteLink widget 
in the related box in the item's page can give for some problems no error 
message at all. However, you are very right as far as everyday usage is 
concerned.
  
  Now that you put like that, I see your point. In fact, using that method, 
maybe would have helped //me// as well at the beginning. Maybe we can instruct 
the user to try in the box and, if it does not work, to try again on that page 
for some troubleshooting.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T218282: documentation for sites setup

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  In T218282#5107406 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282#5107406>, 
@Michael wrote:
  
  > Please have a look at the draft at 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Michael_Gro%C3%9Fe_(WMDE)/WikibaseSiteLinksDoku
 . This draft is intended to be added to 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation as a same-level headline 
after the `Verify your installation` section.
  >
  > Please check if
  >
  > - the text is easy to understand and follow
  > - you consider this the right place to add it
  > - the text fulfills the acceptance criteria as defined above.
  
  
  Dear @Michael ,
  thanks for your effort and thanks for using some of my contributions for the 
instructions you wrote. I reviewed your text and following please find my 
considerations:
  
  - If this is the right place to add the text depends on what we consider 
//Standard// and //Advanced// configuration. I agree to put this specific text 
where you suggest to, but then I am not sure any longer if it make sense to 
have two separate installation instructions page, instead of one well-organized 
one
  - The candidate documentation in my opinion fails to explain the user the 
concepts behind. As I wrote above, I consider this of paramount importance. The 
paragraph is titled `Enable SiteLinks`, but nowhere is explained what a 
"SiteLink" is or what relation has with "Direct Access". In the brief 
introduction I wrote, those terms were at least referenced and linked
  - Are we sure that `Extension:WikimediaMessages` must be installed to edit 
messages? In my installation I was able to modify them by simply editing the 
page `MediaWiki:Wikibase-sitelinks-yourgroupnamehere`
  - I would move `$wgWBRepoSettings` //after// the instructions about Sites (if 
not, //above// and //below// must be adapted)
  - It seems to me that using `Special:SetSiteLink` is less user-friendly than 
setting the SiteLink in the related box in the item's page
  - I think the wiki where //Repository// is installed should be referenced in 
a clearer way in respect to simply //your wiki//: as we are always talking 
about wikis, I am not sure it is clear to the users what is the //consumer// 
and what the //consumed// one
  
  I am surely biased here – and this is the reason I would be glad to see other 
contributions as well – but I still find the instructions more linear and 
informative the way I originally wrote them. Please bear in mind that I started 
as an absolute beginner of Wikibase, so the documentation I wrote is the result 
of the process of learning how to configure Wikibase starting from scratch and 
formalizing Wikibase concepts by induction.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T218282: documentation for sites setup

[lucamauri]

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  In T218282#5112640 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218282#5112640>, 
@Ladsgroup wrote:
  
  > One thing that seems missing from the documentation is how to insert your 
site into sites table. That's actually hard to do manually and I never was able 
to do it properly. What I do is to run this type of code in eval.php
  
  
  My opinion is that the right place for those instructions is 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sites_table#Managing_the_sites_table 
  In fact I added instructions there in order to use a manually created XML to 
import sites: in my experience it is by far the simpler and more versatile 
procedure.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T218282: documentation for sites setup

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  Please allow me another comment after @Addshore edit above.
  My personal impression with the documentation is that it is too directive 
without really explaining: the user is guided doing several tasks one after the 
other, but there is no explanation on what the user is actually doing and how 
this would reflect in the Wikibase operations.
  
  For instance, as we are discussing here, the user is told to run 
`populateSitesTable.php` but nowhere is explained //what// the `sites` table 
contains and what sites are added via this script. If a user is setting up a 
custom Wikibase installation, most likely this "standard" sites are not even 
necessary at all.
  What I tried to do adding the instructions here 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration#Direct_access_and_SiteLinks
 was to share a procedure as much as explaining //why// the procedure must be 
done and //what// result the user will get eventually.
  
  As a newcomer to Wikibase, I found the most difficult thing being not 
understanding the general principles of the extension, before actually make it 
work. For instance, again, nowhere was //explained// what //Sitelinks// are and 
what is their relation with the //Direct Access//: after I grasped the way it 
actually functioned, doing the configuration ended up being the easiest part.
  My two cents at the end of the day, so, are: let's review the documentation 
//first// explaining the user how Wikibase works, //then// helping the user set 
it up to work like he would.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T218282: documentation for sites setup

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  After my personal experience in setting up a customized Wikibase repository, 
I wrote a quick explanation on how to enable //Direct Access// using the 
//SiteLinks//.
  I placed the text in the "Advanced configuration" page 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Installation/Advanced_configuration#Direct_access_and_SiteLinks>.
  
  I hope this is a useful contribution and that it will be useful for other 
users setting //Wikibase// up.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T206966: Wikibase does not support database table prefix

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  I just setup my own Wikibase installation using two instances as per the 
original message of @KitsuneSolar .
  I created one wiki where both //Repository// and //Client// are installed and 
it worked like a charm even with table prefix. The other instance only contains 
//Client// and in fact I had the same issue explained here: the client only 
look for `wb_items_per_site` without any table prefix.
  
  I believe the problem lies in the fact that the table prefix is set in the 
`Localsettings.php` file of the //Repository// instance, but there is no way to 
configure the table prefix in `WikibaseClient.example.php` of the //Client// 
instance. In fact reinstalling a new //Repository// MediaWiki instance without 
table prefix solved the issue.

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