[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-25 Thread Bene
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  There should be an empty language input field at the bottom of the terms box 
when it is in edit mode. It would work just like the sitelinks ui works, one 
can add langauges but only the ones that have no term defined yet. To make that 
obvious, we should perhaps only show the additional box when all languages are 
expanded.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-16 Thread Nikki
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Another two uses I just had:

Someone entered a label and description using the wrong language code. I can 
remove them from the wrong code, but I need labelLister to add them to the 
right code.

Some sitelinks had been added some time ago. Usually a bot will add labels when 
that happens, but sometimes things seem to get skipped so I wanted to just add 
the labels myself, but I needed labelLister to do it.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-16 Thread Nikki
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I often want to do this, because Wikipedia articles will normally include the 
name in the original/native/local language(s) and I'd like to add those as 
labels too.

Related to what @Izno said, if you move a sitelink to another item, the item 
won't automatically have a label in the language. You can remove the label from 
the old item, but you can't add it to the new item.

I do find it rather strange that I can do pretty much anything independently of 
the UI language except for adding new terms. I'm not restricted in which 
sitelinks I can add, I'm not restricted in which monolingual text statements I 
can add and now I'm not even restricted in which labels I can see, edit or 
remove, but adding new labels? There's no obvious way to do that, the best 
option I have is a not very user friendly gadget that isn't enabled by default.

I'm not sure how we can accurately analyse how often it happens. We could 
figure out how many new labels were added using the labelLister gadget from the 
history, but that wouldn't tell us how many labels people wanted to add but 
didn't.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-13 Thread Izno
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Right. I realized that after a second reading of what the task was about.

Carry on looking for use cases.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-13 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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But in these cases the language you want to work on already has a label, 
description or alias? In this case it would show up for you to edit.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-11 Thread Izno
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126510#2017982, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:

> Before we do add the ability to add more I'd like to see an analysis of how 
> often the following case actually happens: I want to add a 
> label/description/alias for a language that I have not set as my babel 
> language, isn't my browser language, isn't inferred based on location and 
> doesn't at least have one entry already. My gut feeling this case is very 
> rare and I'd like to avoid adding more creep to the user interface it in this 
> case.


I //regularly// bump into this case, mostly when cleaning interwikis. I may 
move one link to another page based on e.g. Google Translate, or leave a link 
behind, and I want to clean up any remaining languages which may have content 
in them to indicate the different title.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-11 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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Before we do add the ability to add more I'd like to see an analysis of how 
often the following case actually happens: I want to add a 
label/description/alias for a language that I have not set as my babel 
language, isn't my browser language, isn't inferred based on location and 
doesn't at least have one entry already. My gut feeling this case is very rare 
and I'd like to avoid adding more creep to the user interface it in this case.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T126510: Allow adding arbitrary languages in the interface

2016-02-10 Thread Mbch331
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That's the only function from Wikidata Label editor gadget that's missing (if 
I'm not mistaken). If this is done, the labeleditor gadget is no longer needed.


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