[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272243: Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net

[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Alright, I’ve removed those unused `{{GENDER}}`s from most translations now.

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  I deployed the configuration change, but due to a bug it is not taking effect 
yet. The fix is going to be deployed this Wednesday.

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  Change 674022 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [translatewiki@master] Remove parameter validation for 
Wikidata-lexeme-forms-bulk-not-allowed
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/674022

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  Change 674022 had a related patch set uploaded (by Abijeet Patro; owner: 
Abijeet Patro):
  [translatewiki@master] Remove parameter validation for 
Wikidata-lexeme-forms-bulk-not-allowed
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/674022

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[abi_]

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  Yes, I'll update the configuration to ignore this validation

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Well, it looks like people are adding unnecessary `{{GENDER}}` to messages 
now, presumably because if they don’t the tool warns about the unused `$1` 
parameter:
  F34164419: Screenshot from 2021-03-16 20-49-59.png 

  Can you disable that check for this message? It’s expected that most 
languages won’t need `$1`.

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Alright, thanks. I updated the source message and will try how the 
translation editor behaves tomorrow, and if that looks alright, then I think we 
can close this issue.

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[Nikerabbit]

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  Yep.

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  You mean like this?
  
  > {{GENDER:$1|You}} are not allowed to use bulk mode. Sorry.

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[Nikerabbit]

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  If you try it in the translation editor 

 you can see that GENDER is not an issue. The issue is that the variable `$1` 
is not known. In MediaWiki this is usually by having no-op GENDER in the 
definition. We can also disable check for variables (unknown & missing) for the 
group or per message.

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Apparently “GENDER is considered an error by [the] translation tool”. How can 
we fix this? 
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Wikimedia:Wikidata-lexeme-forms-bulk-not-allowed/it&diff=9944230&oldid=9944229

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Ah, now it’s working. Maybe GitHub had a hiccup (there’s an incident 
 with potentially matching 
timestamps, I’m too lazy to double-check).

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Hm, I tried pushing some extra commits to the `twn` branch (to fix the 
failing CI), but they’re not showing up in the pull request. Any ideas why? (I 
can see the commits if I look at the `twn` branch outside the pull request.)

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[abi_]

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  A PR was opened with the changes: 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/pull/20/files
  
  @LucasWerkmeister - Let us know if everything looks OK?

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Excellent, thanks a lot! I look forward to the first export :)

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[abi_]

abi_ moved this task from In Progress to In Review on the Language-Team 
(Language-2021-January-March) board.
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  The project is now available for translation at: 
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=wikidata-lexeme-forms
  
  Translations will be exported out from translatewiki.net on Thursday, 11th 
March, 2021.

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Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, 
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Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, 
Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, 
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  Change 667760 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [translatewiki@master] Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/667760

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Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, 
Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, 
Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
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[abi_]

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  I've mentioned the project and translation licenses separately on the project 
page 
.

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Beast1978, Rileych, Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, 
Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, 
Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, 
Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Thanks, I didn’t know that. In the case of the existing translations (that 
will now be imported into translatewiki.net), they were contributed on Wikidata 
under CC BY-SA 3.0 exclusively, and according to Creative Commons’ Compatible 
Licenses page 
,
 that license is not one-way compatible with any other license (unlike CC BY-SA 
**4**.0, which allows licensing under GPLv3… but not AGPLv3, nor GPLv3 //or 
later//? it’s confusing). So if I understand this correctly, while future 
contributions on translatewiki.net might be licensed under AGPLv3 (thanks to 
the note in the about page), the whole of the translations will still have to 
remain CC BY-SA 3.0 only, unless we ask the authors of the 
pre-translatewiki.net translations to relicense, or discard the old 
translations. Amending the project page sounds like the best option to me.

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
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Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[Nikerabbit]

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  In T272243#6892108 , 
@LucasWerkmeister wrote:
  
  > Side note: the project page 
 says 
“license: AGPL 3 or later”, but so far I’ve treating the translations and 
templates of the tool as CC BY-SA 3.0 (since they’re defined on-wiki), and 
AGPL3 is only for code. Is that field meant to document the license of the 
translations or of the rest of the software?
  
  The common assumption is that translations are dual licensed under CC BY and 
the project's overall license(s). This is mentioned in our about page:
  
Translations by translators are licensed CC BY 3.0, and derivative works 
may also be licensed under the licenses of the respective Free and Open Source 
projects the translations have been or will be added to.
  
  In this case the license for translations is different from the code, but 
given they are already under CC BY, I think there is no copyright issue. If you 
want to keep it this way, we can amend the project page to list licenses for 
code and translations separately to avoid confusion.

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Alright, thanks! I just saw the “Pywikibot” in the URL / path and didn’t 
notice that it was translatewiki.net config ^^
  
  I’ve pushed a revert of that commit; once Diffusion is done processing it, 
it’ll appear at {R2362:b7b55e1b3372cde470af515744a63282aaee8631}.

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
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[abi_]

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  In T272243#6892077 , 
@LucasWerkmeister wrote:
  
  > Alright, done in R2362:72c16b93d68a: Fix ku and tg language codes for 
translatewiki.net 
.
  
  I apologize if it was not clear enough; but the language code mapping is done 
on translatewiki.net. I'll be updating the patch to take care of it.
  
  Language code mapping that we will be using:
  
aeb-latn: aeb
 bbc-latn: bbc
 gan-hant: gan
 gom-latn: gom
 hif-latn: hif
 ike-cans: iu
 kbd-cyrl: kbd
 kk-cyrl: kk
 ks-arab: ks
 ku-latn: ku
 ruq-latn: ruq
 sr-ec: sr
 tg-cyrl: tg
 tt-cyrl: tt
 ug-arab: ug
 zh-hans: zh
  
  That means that `aeb-latn` from translatewiki.net will be exported out as 
`aeb` and while reading files from the repository, translatewiki.net will look 
for `aeb` and map that to `aeb-latn`.

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Side note: the project page 
 says 
“license: AGPL 3 or later”, but so far I’ve treating the translations and 
templates of the tool as CC BY-SA 3.0 (since they’re defined on-wiki), and 
AGPL3 is only for code. Is that field meant to document the license of the 
translations or of the rest of the software?

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Alright, done in R2362:72c16b93d68a: Fix ku and tg language codes for 
translatewiki.net 
.

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[abi_]

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  @LucasWerkmeister Ah, thanks for bringing that up. We can use a language 
`codeMap` like this: 
https://github.com/wikimedia/translatewiki/blob/master/groups/Pywikibot/Pywikibot.yaml#L11
 to handle it

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Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, 
joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, 
Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  I just noticed that 
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=wikidata-lexeme-forms&language=ku
 says:
  
  > This code is for compatibility purposes only. Localise in 'ku-latn'
  
  Should I make the tool use `ku-latn` instead `ku`? (Similarly for 
`tg`/`tg-cyrl`, though I haven’t imported that language’s translations at all 
yet.)

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Done, thank you! I’ll update the wiki pages on Wikidata now.

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joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
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  Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-cloud) [2021-03-08T11:43:47Z]  
 deployed ea7cd3ac71 (i18n from translatewiki.net – T272243 
)

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joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
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GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
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  @LucasWerkmeister - We are a go from our side once you merge `i18n` branch to 
the `main` branch.
  
  We will read translations from the `main` branch, but push them to `twn` 
branch.

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joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, 
Cpaulf30, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, 
GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
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  We've received the invite. Niklas has permissions to accept invites, but he 
is currently on leave. Let's wait till 8th March, 2021.

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CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 
1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, 
DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, JakeTheDeveloper, 
Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, 
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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  2. Alright, that makes sense. (I’m more used to opening pull requests from 
forks, but I guess that wouldn’t scale well for you – I didn’t consider that.) 
Access should be granted now.

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Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, 
CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 
1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, 
DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, JakeTheDeveloper, 
Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, 
Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, Taiwania_Justo, 
shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, 
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Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, 
CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 
1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, 
DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, JakeTheDeveloper, 
Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, 
Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, Taiwania_Justo, 
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PallaviPatke, Alter-paule, Manishsamota, Beast1978, Rileych, Un1tY, 
Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, Sms2sms, Kent7301, joker88john, 
CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 
1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, 
DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, JakeTheDeveloper, 
Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, 
Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, Taiwania_Justo, 
shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, 
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CucyNoiD, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Gaboe420, Zylc, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, 
1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, 
DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, JakeTheDeveloper, 
Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, JJMC89, 
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  Change 667760 had a related patch set uploaded (by Abijeet Patro; owner: 
Abijeet Patro):
  [translatewiki@master] Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/667760

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Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
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[abi_]

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  @LucasWerkmeister
  
  1. Thanks, this is good to start with. Hypens are preferred but translatewiki 
handles underscores as well.
  2. We would still need push access to the repo. The bot can push to the `twn` 
branch, and create a PR to the `main` branch. The `main` branch could be marked 
as protected.

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Thanks!
  
  1. I forgot about qqq.json, I added some now. (I also noticed the i18n files 
were using underscores in the message keys, when hyphens would probably be 
better for you. Changed to hyphens now.)
  2. Is this a requirement? I would prefer if translatewiki opened pull 
requests against the repository, rather than pushing directly. I need to 
manually do something to deploy the changes in either way, and this way, test 
failures due to translation issues won’t immediately break the build on the 
`main` branch.

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Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
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abi_ moved this task from Quarter Backlog to In Progress on the Language-Team 
(Language-2021-January-March) board.
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  @LucasWerkmeister I've added some concerns, please let me know if they make 
sense.

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Sms2sms, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Zylc, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, 
Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
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Sms2sms, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Zylc, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Operator873, Gq86, 
Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, 
JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, 
JJMC89, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Bodhisattwa, Taiwania_Justo, shinjiman, 
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  @LucasWerkmeister - Apologies for the delay, I will take a look at this today 
or tomorrow.

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[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Is there anything I can do to help move this along? As far as I can tell, 
with the work in the i18n branch, no tool-specific changes to translatewiki.net 
should be needed anymore – the JSON files should use the same format as 
everywhere else.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272243: Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net

[LucasWerkmeister]

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  Any chance you can take a look at that i18n branch and see if the message 
files look alright?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272243: Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net

[LucasWerkmeister]

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  In T272243#6771813 , 
@LucasWerkmeister wrote:
  
  > The formatters have some documentation in formatters.py 
;
 apart from that, the messages are plain text – there has been no need for any 
kind of markup (wikitext, markdown, …) so far.
  
  I just remembered that that’s not true – one message contains an `` 
element. (In other words, after applying the formatters, the result is taken to 
be HTML.)
  
  ---
  
  I just pushed an `i18n` branch to Diffusion 
 and 
GitHub  which 
saves all the messages in JSON files in an `i18n/` directory, in MediaWiki 
format; the tool then converts the syntax back to Python syntax when loading 
the files. This should hopefully mean that no special handling on 
translatewiki.net’s side will be necessary.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272243: Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net

[LucasWerkmeister]

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  > I see translations are currently here: 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/blob/main/translations.py.
 Would it be possible to have them in one per language? Also something like 
JSON would be easier to parse.
  
  Sure, not a problem.
  
  > The question here is rather who is going to write that code (in PHP) and 
maintain it, and how complex it is, and is the format unique to this project or 
is it reusable for others as well.
  
  I looked a bit at the PHP code, and maybe we don’t need custom code for this 
tool at all? Apparently the `JsonFFS` employs a class called `ArrayFlattener`, 
which has the ability to parse CLDR plural syntax in both directions; if 
translatewiki.net exports this parsed CLDR syntax into the JSON file, I can 
probably turn that JSON back into Python-style messages on my end. We would 
need a corresponding option to parse the `{{GENDER:}}` magic word into a 
structured form as well, but that might be useful for other tools too?
  
  > A specification of some sort for the syntax would be a good starting point.
  
  The formatters have some documentation in formatters.py 
;
 apart from that, the messages are plain text – there has been no need for any 
kind of markup (wikitext, markdown, …) so far.

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[Amire80]

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  In T272243#6754478 , 
@Nikerabbit wrote:
  
  >> I think it would make sense to limit translations into new languages on 
translatewiki.net
  >
  > We can set the list of allowed languages in the message group 
configuration. The question would be how to keep it up to date. Would you be 
willing to submit patches to add languages?
  
  I was confused initially about this, too, but now that I've carefully read 
what Lucas wrote, I think that what he's trying to say is that translating into 
new languages shouldn't be allowed until the software explicitly supports them. 
This makes sense. I'm pretty sure that there is such a setting in the YAML 
group definition files. Existing translations will be imported into 
translatewiki, translating into them will be allowed. When the tool starts 
supporting Japanese, YAML will be updated to allow Japanese. Does this make 
sense?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272243: Add Wikidata Lexeme Forms to translatewiki.net

[Nikerabbit]

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  Thanks for the very detailed request. A few quick comments and questions:
  
  > Is it possible to make translatewiki.net translate the MediaWiki syntax to 
the Python syntax on export?
  
  Both parsing the files and doing structural transformations for message 
contents (and keys) is done by our file format support classes, and they are 
accompanied by appropriate insertables and validators.
  
  - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Validators
  - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Insertables
  - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/File_format_support 
(very, very outdated)
  
  The question here is rather who is going to write that code (in PHP) and 
maintain it, and how complex it is, and is the format unique to this project or 
is it reusable for others as well. A specification of some sort for the syntax 
would be a good starting point.
  
  
  
  > If not, is it acceptable to require translators to write the Python syntax 
directly when translating?
  
  It looks rather complicated, and slightly different from all the other 
formats. This increases the changes that translators will make mistakes, though 
validators may help.
  
  
  
  I see translations are currently here: 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/blob/main/translations.py.
 Would it be possible to have them in one per language? Also something like 
JSON would be easier to parse.
  
  
  
  > I think it would make sense to limit translations into new languages on 
translatewiki.net
  
  We can set the list of allowed languages in the message group configuration. 
The question would be how to keep it up to date. Would you be willing to submit 
patches to add languages?

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[LucasWerkmeister]

LucasWerkmeister created this task.
LucasWerkmeister added projects: translatewiki.net, Wikidata Lexicographical 
data, Tools.
Restricted Application added a project: Wikidata.

TASK DESCRIPTION
  Project information
  ---
  
  **Name**: Wikidata Lexeme Forms
  **Homepage**: https://lexeme-forms.toolforge.org/
  **Project link**: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_Lexeme_Forms, maybe? I’m not 
sure what the difference between Homepage and Project link is supposed to be, 
to be honest.
  **Code repository**:
  
  - Source branch: 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/tool-lexeme-forms/browse/main/ or 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/tree/main
  - Target branch: 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/tool-lexeme-forms/browse/main/ or 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/tree/main
  - Note: so far, my experience with Phabricator’s code review tools has been 
dreadful, so I would much prefer translation exports through GitHub pull 
requests. (In theory, I could give the exporter push rights to the main branch, 
but I would still need to manually deploy the translations, so I would prefer 
for the exporter to open pull requests which I then merge.)
  
  **OS License**: AGPLv3+ for source code, CC BY-SA 3.0 for translations
  **Issue Tracker**: Mixture of different channels, so far; 
https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/tool-lexeme-forms/issues might be the best 
one.
  **Project contact**: User:Lucas Werkmeister 

  
  **Logo**:
  
  - Without text: None so far.
  - With text: Ditto.
  
  **Project description**:
  Wikidata Lexeme Forms is a tool to create and edit the Forms of Wikidata 
Lexemes, based on templates that define what different kind of Lexemes look 
like – for instance, there are forms for English nouns, German verbs, Bengali 
nouns (animate), etc. The templates are maintained on wiki pages (see 
Wikidata:Wikidata Lexeme Forms#Language support 
),
 and currently, translations are maintained on the same pages. Both the 
templates and the translations are manually synchronized from the wiki pages to 
the tool’s source code (Python) by the developers (mainly me).
  
  The subject of moving those translations to translatewiki.net has been 
brought up before (cc @Amire80), but I don’t even remember where that was, so I 
figure it makes sense to kick it off again here. From my point of view as the 
developer of the tool, the main expected benefit would be to make it easier to 
add new messages. Currently, if I add a new feature (or some other improvement, 
e.g. nicer error pages) that introduces a new message, this will require me to 
add the message to all the language pages on-wiki, so that it can be 
translated; I’m starting to notice that the prospect of having to update dozens 
of wiki pages discourages me from such new developments, which doesn’t seem 
like a healthy incentive. I hope that moving the translations to 
translatewiki.net will remove that barrier. From a translator’s point of view, 
I’m told that editing translatewiki.net is more convenient than the current 
workflow.
  
  The main problem I see is the message syntax. The tool is written in Python, 
so the standard MediaWiki formatting (`{{PLURAL:}}`, `{{GENDER:}}`) is not 
available; I wrote some Python formatters that recognize a more Pythonic 
syntax, and manually translate the MediaWiki syntax to the Python one when 
moving the translations to the source code, for instance:
  
  > $1, $2, {{PLURAL:$3|0=no statements|one statement|$3 statements}}
  
{form_link}, {grammatical_feature_labels!l}, {statements!p:0=no 
statements:one=one statement:other={statements} statements}
  
  
  
  > Ci dispiace, ma non sei {{GENDER:$1|autorizzato|autorizzata|autorizzato/a}} 
a usare il caricamento di massa.
  
Ci dispiace, ma non sei 
{user!g:m=autorizzato:f=autorizzata:n=autorizzato/a} a usare il caricamento di 
massa.
  
  The first example demonstrates plural (`!p`, `{{PLURAL:}}`) and list (`!l`, 
no MediaWiki equivalent) handling, whereas the second example demonstrates 
gender (`!g`, `{{GENDER:}}`) handling. All Python examples also use variable 
names (`form_link` etc.) rather than numeric indices (`$1`, `$2` etc.), though 
it’s probably possible to migrate the Python code to positional arguments if 
adding the variable names to the translatewiki.net export proves unfeasible.
  
  Is it possible to make translatewiki.net translate the MediaWiki syntax to 
the Python syntax on export? If not, is it acceptable to require translators to 
write the Python syntax directly when translating?
  
  Another peculiarity of this tool is that the translations are directly tied 
to the template: there’s no way to select the user interface language – rather, 
the interface language is the same as the language of the template you’re 
currentl