[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[ItamarWMDE]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lydia_Pintscher]

Lydia_Pintscher closed this task as "Resolved".
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  \o/

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T305542: WriteUse Action to actually 
make the language code Inference work as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[karapayneWMDE]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T306170: Support wikis without configured 
$wgLexemeLanguageCodePropertyId as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T305546: Add i18n warning message for 
invalid language code to WikibaseLexeme.git as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  Doh! Yes ;-)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  I forgot that the task description already has the message copy – “This Item 
has an unrecognized language code. Please select one below.” should work for 
both cases, I think.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  Ok let's go with what you proposed then.
  As for the message: We can keep the error message something generic like "We 
could not read the statement for the language code from the Item foo" and then 
link the statement?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  @Michael and I were thinking that it might make sense to treat `novalue` like 
a missing statement, but `somevalue` like an invalid language code (e.g. 
`P218=foobarbaz`), so the latter would show the spelling variant selector but 
also an error message. Though I’m not sure if the invalid language code is 
supposed to be included in that message – if yes, then it’s unclear what 
`somevalue` would look like.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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    I was indeed wondering 
  
  Can we treat it as if no statement was present? So in essence show the 
spelling variant selector.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  @Lydia_Pintscher What should happen if the best-rank `P218` statement has 
unknown value, or no value? (Currently, there are 11 items with novalue P218 
,
 and no items with somevalue P218 
.)
  
  (The code in the old special page just crashes in that case, if I’m not 
mistaken, in case you were wondering.)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T305578: Pass down the 
wgLexemeLanguageCodePropertyId to the new-lexeme-special-page 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Michael]

Michael closed subtask T305539: Retrieve language code property data from the 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  > If the `P218` statement includes more than one value, the application will 
use the first best ranked value (@Lydia_Pintscher does that chime correctly?).
  
  The current implementation almost uses the first best-rank statement, except 
that it falls back to deprecated-rank statements if there are no preferred- or 
normal-rank ones, whereas our usual “best rank” logic never uses 
deprecated-rank statements even if they’re the only ones that exist. The code 
was introduced in April 2017 
 
without any product involvement being recorded as far as I can see (no attached 
Phabricator task, only technical comments), so it’s not clear if the inclusion 
of deprecated statements is intentional or not.
  
  (Also, I think the current implementation will crash if the first best-rank 
statement is a //somevalue// or //novalue// one.)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[ItamarWMDE]

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  **(Some background) possible language code scenarios**
  
  - Valid language code → No spelling variant lookup, no warning message.
  - Invalid language code (meaning the retrieved code is not in the list of 
allowed codes) → Yes spelling variant lookup, yes warning message.
  - No language code → Yes spelling variant lookup, no warning message.
  - No language Item selected → No spelling variant lookup, no warning message.
  - Loading language code request -> No spelling variant lookup, no warning 
message, loading indicator shown (@Erdinc_Ciftci_WMDE Are there mocks for this 
state? Should this be part of this task @Lydia_Pintscher?).
  
  **Task Breakdown Notes**:
  
  - We have the list of lang codes that are allowed as spelling variants.
  - Field validation and error / warning message display is embedded in the 
Wikit lookup component.
  - If the language `P218` statement's value contains incorrect and valid data, 
you will not receive a warning. If it is incorrect and invalid, a warning will 
be shown.
  - If the `P218` statement includes more than one value, the application will 
use the first best ranked value (@Lydia_Pintscher does that chime correctly?).
  
  **Potential Plan of Action**:
  
  1. Either:
- Pass down the `wgLexemeLanguageCodePropertyId` to the 
'new-lexeme-special-page' application via the config. [TASK TBW by 
@guergana.tzatchkova] **Or in parallel:**
- Write a repository implementation (in the vue application's `data-access` 
directory) to retrieve the language code property data from the API. [TASK TBW 
by @noarave]
  2. Add an action and event handler to call the API and retrieve the language 
code from the repository. To see what happens when you select a language code, 
scroll up to the first section of this comment. [TASK TBW by @Michael]
  
  In parallel
  
  - Extend the `wbgetclaims` action API module to support 'Best Ranked' 
statements in addition to the currently available filters (@Lydia_Pintscher 
does that sound a good investment for our users?) [TASK TBW by 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]
  
  In parallel
  
  - Add the i18n message to the `WikibaseLexeme` messages list in `en.json` and 
`qqq.json`. and pass them down into the vue app via the ResourceLoader. [TASK 
TBW by @ItamarWMDE]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  TODO Lydia: think through which Property to use some more.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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  @Erdinc_Ciftci_WMDE can you have a look at the copy of the warning message?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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  We should also consider no matter what property we use, the values are not 
always language codes supported by Wikidata. See T209282: Error when creating 
lexemes in languages which have an unsupported ISO 639-1 code 


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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  In T298142#7585471 , 
@Mahir256 wrote:
  
  > I'd like to suggest a change to infer the spelling variants from P‌220 or 
P3‌05 per T284882 .
  
  The dedicated property would be https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P9753

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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  Thanks. Poked Daniel and Denny there for input as I seem to remember they had 
good reasons for the current state but can't quite puzzle it together anymore.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T298142: Spelling variant of the Lemma - infer the spelling variant from the language

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  I'd like to suggest a change to infer the spelling variants from P‌220 or 
P3‌05 per T284882 .

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