Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData and WikiBase on obscure handheld browsers?

[Scott MacLeod]

Snaevar and Wikidataians,

Thanks for this information. I didn't know about the mobile version of
Wikipedia.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work on my Palm OS 4.0 browser on my handheld
phone.

I get the error message "WML content contains invalid syntax".

I wonder how many internet phone browsers the mobile version of Wikipedia
does and doesn't work on.

Since WikiData is designed to interoperate with MediaWiki and
MobileFrontend, as well as the mobile version of Wikipedia (I assume), and
possibly universally on all browsers (might be the hope), I wonder if there
are any "backend" WikiData data base changes that would be part of the
solution to reaching all obscure browsers, - in the emerging world, for
example.

What would be the email list in which I would explore accessibility
of MediaWiki and MobileFrontend, as well as the mobile version of
Wikipedia, as well as other mobile wikis, on all obscure browsers
(including my Palm OS 4), and for all 3000-8000 languages and in around
~200 countries?

At World University and School's Subject Template, we've listed a number of
different 'Wikis for Courses' -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE#Wiki_Software_for_Courses-
for people to teach and learn with. These two seem to work on my Palm
OS
4.0 -

Wet Paint - http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com/

Wikispaces - http://www.wikispaces.com/

- in contrast to the mobile version of Wikipedia.

Because of MediaWiki's language support of < 280 languages (and potentially
all languages, including invented ones, dead ones, as well mathematical and
chemical symbols, etc.), I assume building out the mobile version of
Wikipedia to obscure browsers is a most sensible approach. Is this the
case? If so, how would I add to the mobile version of Wikipedia's code such
that I no longer get the error message "WML content contains invalid
syntax" on my Palm OS 4.0 ?

Thanks,
Scott






On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Snaevar  wrote:

> Have you tried the mobile version of Wikipedia (for example
> en.m.wikipedia.org) ?
>
> This is probably a bit out of scope for Wikidata, becouse the issue of how
> mobile versions of wikis work with older browsers is an wider issue that
> also affects MediaWiki and MobileFrontend.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData and WikiBase on obscure handheld browsers?

[Scott MacLeod]

Thanks, Gantt, and WikiDataians,

I'll look more carefully at mobile data web site you sent -
http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats - Gantt.
In World University and School's planning, especially for the developing /
emerging world / all 3000-8000 languages / and all ~200 countries, I'd like
to see similar mobile-usage data informed by a fair amount of on-the-ground
research, partly in One Laptop per Child (OLPC) areas, but also widely
elsewhere. I'd hypothesize that the varieties of mobile internet phone
usage, and their related browsers, is large and diverse, and probably
somewhat predictable into the '5 year future,' based on the past. Which
ones to plan for is an interesting question?

WUaS is seeking to code for / create a Wiki 'front end' which reaches a
very wide variety of / almost all handheld browsers and end users, for open
wiki teaching and learning, and as archive, plus much more, for all
languages at this world university (WUaS).

Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics,
across 200 countries +? And what, for example, does Google (which works on
my handheld's Palm operating system) target, mobile-wise, as policy? Google
doesn't develop many wikis - editable web pages - that I'm aware of; I do
appreciate Google's excellence and thoughtfulness in programming, however.
(WUaS is planning an universal translator, building on Google Translate,
Sugar Labs' Translator, plus others -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator).

Gantt, WikiData is the 'back end' for the 'front end' of interactive,
editable web pages, so it should work on OLPCs where they are connected to
the internet. Sorry to get back to you with this delay - my computer was
inoperable from Friday evening until just yesterday.

Talk with you Saturday at open, hour-long, WUaS business meeting (
http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/search/label/Business%20Meeting),
if not before? All are welcome to WUaS business meeting ... it's the
current decision-making meeting of World University and School.

Best,
Scott





On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Galloway, Gantt <
gallow...@pharmacy.ucsf.edu> wrote:

> Hi Scott -
>
> Here's data on mobile pageviews by OS and continent (top 3 per continent).
> Go to http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats,
> search on "Proportion of global Web pageviews from mobile devices, by
> region, in Jan 2011 and Jan 2012".
>
> I suspect that older OSs that didn't make the top three (and Blackberry)
> are going the way of the dodo.
>
> Will WikiData work with OLPC machines?
>
> Gantt Galloway, PharmD
>
> Senior Scientist, Addiction & Pharmacology Research Laboratory
> California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute
> 3555 Cesar Chavez Street
> San Francisco, CA 94110
> (415) 641-3370
>
> fax: (415) 641-3380
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Scott MacLeod wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikidatians,
> >
> > Before porting World University and School (
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University - like Wikipedia
> with MIT OCW) to WikiData, I'd like to learn of wikis which work on obscure
> handheld browsers, particularly for older internet phones in the
> developing/emerging world.
> >
> > For example, Wikipedia doesn't work on my Palm Treo mobile phone using
> Palm OS 4.0. For WUaS to be helpful as wiki to all 3000-8000 languages,
> easy usage on all or many older mobile phone browsers will be key.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a list of diverse wikis I can try on my old,
> internet mobile Palm Treo OS phone (at least as readable as New York Time's
> > articles, which aren't wiki, on my Palm OS), which might in turn work
> with WikiData, WikiBase and SemanticWiki?
> >
> > WUaS is planning for ALL ~200 countries and 3,000-8,000 languages, as
> wiki.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > All the best,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Scott MacLeod
> > Founder & President
> >
> >
> >
> > http://scottmacleod.com
> >
> > --
> > World University and School
> > (like Wikipedia with MIT Open Course Ware)
> >
> > http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/
> >
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University
> >
> > P.O. Box 442,
> > (86 Ridgecrest Road),
> > Canyon, CA 94516
> >
> > 415 480 4577
> > worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com
> > Skype: scottm100
> >
> > Google + main, WUaS page:
> >
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Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData and WikiBase on obscure handheld browsers?

[Scott MacLeod]

Andre, and WikiDataians,

Thanks, Andre ... How does/will Wikipedia make its decisions as to what
mobile browsers to code for in the future - especially vis-a-vis this new
and impressive WikiData 'back end' database, and in all languages and
countries? My Palm OS on handheld has never worked with Wikipedia, for
example, and I could see it being logical for mobile Wikipedia -
m.wikipedia.org - to work on all mobile browsers, or almost all.

And World University and School would like also to begin to develop a
comprehensive list of mobile-internet-browsers-for-wiki to begin to code
for, in our WUaS planning process. Do you know of such lists, perhaps in
other langauges, for example?

Over time, World University and School would also begin to generate data on
this and related topics, perhaps in WikiData. Let's stay in touch about
this.

I'm glad we're focusing on this further, and thanks.

Scott




On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Andre Engels  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Scott MacLeod
>  wrote:
>
> > Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics,
> across
> > 200 countries +?
>
> I do work on this area for Wikimedia, so I guess I would be the one to
> ask. Some information on what is coming to the Wikimedia servers
> (mostly Wikipedia, of course) is shown at
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportDevices.htm.
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] volunteer looking for interesting tasks

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Norman,

World University and School, like Wikipedia with MIT OpenCourseWare, is
planning to migrate its nearly 500 pages to WikiData and will need to
define a series of relationships in this ur-wiki-development process. WUaS
plans to be in all 3000-8000 languages and 200 countries, which compounds
the number of computer science semantic wiki problems to solve.  Let's
email more about this off-list, if you might be interested in volunteering.

"A *semantic wiki* is a wiki <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki> that has
an underlying model of the
knowledge<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_model> described
in its pages. Regular, or syntactic, wikis have structured text and untyped
hyperlinks <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink>. Semantic wikis, on the
other hand, provide the ability to capture or identify information about
the data within pages, and the relationships between pages, in ways that
can be queried or exported like a
database<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database>
.[1] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_wiki#cite_note-0>[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_wiki#cite_note-1>"
(Wikipedia)


Sincerely,
Scott



On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Norman Richter  wrote:

> **
>  hi there.
> i am a student of computer sciences in germany wanting to do my academic
> thesis (diplomarbeit).
> i am very interested in things connected to the semantic web.
> so it would be a pleasure to me to work on an challenging topic for
> wikipedia.
> this means, i am NOT looking for jobs that are just work.
> but i am looking for problems that i can solute with scientific
> methodology, for instance developing concepts and prototypes in the field
> of semantic technology.
> would be cool if i could do something for wikidata.
> waiting for suggestions...
> norman
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Re: [Wikidata-l] we applied for the Knight News Challenge and could use your support

[Scott MacLeod]

Congratulations and good luck, Wikidata.

World University and School (
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University), like Wikipedia
with MIT OpenCourseWare, plans on working with Wikidata, if possible, and
developing in all 3000-8000 languages and ~ 200 countries, as an open,
free, wiki resource for people-to-people teaching and learning. WUaS also
plans to offer free, online, interactive Bachelor, Ph.D., Law and M.D.
degrees in many, many countries and languages, accrediting on MIT OCW in
California, to start, for its first matriculating Bachelor's degree class
in 2014 at 'The College at World University and School' -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/The_College_at_World_University_and_School.

Startup World University and School would be interested in working closely
with Wikidata.

All the best,
Scott

http://scottmacleod.com





On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Heya folks,
>
> We applied to the Knight News Challenge to push Wikidata even further
> during a second year of development. You can find out more here:
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/06/25/wikidata-applies-for-the-knight-news-challenge-and-you-can-help/
> and see our proposal here:
>
> http://newschallenge.tumblr.com/post/25575917516/wikidata-as-a-central-free-repository-of-identifiers
>
> It would be awesome if you could support the proposal by clicking
> "like" on the proposal page. Keep your fingers crossed ;-)
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] we applied for the Knight News Challenge and could use your support

[Scott MacLeod]

By the way, I also added the two Wikidata links above to World University
and School's 'Wiki,' and 'Fundraising,' wiki, subject pages:

http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki

http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Fundraising

The two, following, WUaS Data subjects, as they develop, and especially
with MIT OCW courses and great universities' open educational resources,
are also potentially relevant to this list:

http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Data

http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Database_Systems

(... all accessible from the 'Subjects' page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects) .

Scott



On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Scott MacLeod <
worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Congratulations and good luck, Wikidata.
>
> World University and School (
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University), like Wikipedia
> with MIT OpenCourseWare, plans on working with Wikidata, if possible, and
> developing in all 3000-8000 languages and ~ 200 countries, as an open,
> free, wiki resource for people-to-people teaching and learning. WUaS also
> plans to offer free, online, interactive Bachelor, Ph.D., Law and M.D.
> degrees in many, many countries and languages, accrediting on MIT OCW in
> California, to start, for its first matriculating Bachelor's degree class
> in 2014 at 'The College at World University and School' -
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/The_College_at_World_University_and_School.
>
> Startup World University and School would be interested in working closely
> with Wikidata.
>
> All the best,
> Scott
>
> http://scottmacleod.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Heya folks,
>>
>> We applied to the Knight News Challenge to push Wikidata even further
>> during a second year of development. You can find out more here:
>>
>> http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/06/25/wikidata-applies-for-the-knight-news-challenge-and-you-can-help/
>> and see our proposal here:
>>
>> http://newschallenge.tumblr.com/post/25575917516/wikidata-as-a-central-free-repository-of-identifiers
>>
>> It would be awesome if you could support the proposal by clicking
>> "like" on the proposal page. Keep your fingers crossed ;-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia
>>
>> --
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>> Community Communications for Wikidata
>>
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>> Obentrautstr. 72
>> 10963 Berlin
>> www.wikimedia.de
>>
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>>
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>> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
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>
>
>
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> --
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] We have a logo!

[Scott MacLeod]

The new logo is great.

Congratulations, Wikidata!

Scott




On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Neil Harris  wrote:

> On 13/07/12 22:37, Yury Katkov wrote:
>
>> It is a masterpiece! Very clean, laconic and looks really global.
>> -
>> Yury Katkov
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/13 Lydia Pintscher **:
>>
>>> Heya folks!
>>>
>>> We have a logo for Wikidata! It was done by Arun aka Planemad. Thanks
>>> so much to Arun.
>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Wikidata-logo-**proposal-2s.png<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata-logo-proposal-2s.png>
>>> More later on blog.wikimedia.de.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers from Wikimania
>>> Lydia
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
> That is an absolutely brilliant piece of minimalist design that works well
> on many levels at once, and the digital easter egg of "wiki" in Morse code
> is sheer genius.
>
> Fantastic.
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] future use-cases

[Scott MacLeod]

Dear Daniel and Wikidatans,

To http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Future , I added the
following future-use-case vis-a-vis World University and School:

I added "World University and School (
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University) would like to use
Wikidata for development. In addition to the resources itemized in this
WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - WUaS would also
like, as a few highlights, to develop an universal translator with Wikidata
in 3,000-8,000 languages, building on Google Translate +. WUaS would also
like to incorporate virtual place-coordinates to/from Wikidata for virtual
world spaces, and potentially for all museums in all languages which have
some free art resources online, for example. And WUaS would like to develop
a Music School, for all instruments and in all languages, as wiki pages,
and also for collaborative-real time music making, eventually."


Looking forward to further communication about this future use-case page.
Thanks for beginning it.

Cheers,
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
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> Heya
>
> Daniel started a page to collect future use-cases for Wikidata here:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Future  The goal is to
> collect them so we can keep them in mind during development. Please
> add and expand as you see fit.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata

[Scott MacLeod]

Wikidatans,

It's exciting that the Hungarian Wikipedia folks will be first to deploy in
Wikidata - congratulations!

World University and School also plans to deploy in Wikidata, and in all
3,000-8,000 languages, each a wiki, subject page / school, to begin. WUaS
bases this range on "The Ethnologue" - http://www.ethnologue.com/ - which
now says they have 6,909 languages, whereas Wikipedia says they have 7,358
languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnologue. WUaS also plans to
facilitate the development of an universal translator -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - building
on Google Translate and others.

Wikipedia is now in 285 languages, as of August 2012 -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Wikipedia.

Hungarian Wikipedia rocks!

Cheers,
Scott







On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Heya folks
>
> This hasn't made it to this list yet sorry. The Hungarian Wikipedia
> community has stepped up to be the first one to use Wikidata in
> production once we're ready to deploy the code. They rock :D
> We're keeping track of the deployment plans here:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Deployment
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bináris 
> Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata
> To: Wikimedia developers 
>
>
> 2012/7/14 Lydia Pintscher 
>
> >
> > Just to keep everyone updated: We have discussed this here at
> > Wikimania together with a few of the admins of the Hungarian
> > Wikipedia. Things are looking good and the next step is to take this
> > to the Hungarian Wikipedia to figure out if the community is ok with
> > this and then go for it if approved.
> >
> > The poll is here:
>
> http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal_%28m%C5%B1szaki%29#Tesztelhetj.C3.BCk_a_Wikidat.C3.A1t
> Result: after some explanations we have 26 supporters in addition to 3
> initiators/starters, and no opposers. (22 of them in the first 24 hours.)
> As I wrote earlier, this is an enthusiastic community. So huwiki is looking
> forward to test Wikidata. :-) Let's do it!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata

[Scott MacLeod]

Wikidatans,

Great, Italian Wikipedia!

What's the deployment plan, for languages 10 through 285 (number of
Wikipedia languages) through 7,358 (per "The Ethnologue"), particularly in
terms of developing community email lists (graduate students?)

Is there a meta wiki deployment page for this?

What's the current state of email lists / wiki pages for all of
Wikipedia's 285 language communities?

World University and School is planning for all 3000-8000 languages, each
as a wiki page to begin: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages .

So many languages, and as wikis, is wondrous ... :)

Cheers,
Scott




On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Marco Fleckinger <
marco.fleckin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 08/05/2012 06:24 PM, Bináris wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/5 Marco Fleckinger > <mailto:marco.fleckinger@**gmail.com >>
>>
>>
>> My mother tongue is German but living near Brenner (about 47° north,
>> 11° east) I know also a little Italian.
>>
>> As Hungary is on 47th north, too (centre of Budapest on 47° 30'), we are
>> almost neighbours, so your idea is quite natural. :-))
>>
>>  Actually, it's closer than Berlin ;-)
> Let me correct it a little bit: it's about 47,04 north 11,48 east.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next Wikidata office hours

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Hi Lydia,

I'm planning to participate in office hours in 2 minutes, but Colloquy
isn't completely transparent for me yet. I'm in one, main chat room, but
can't find #wikimedia-office 's yet.

Cheers, :)
Scott



On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
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> Heya :)
>
> Just a quick reminder that this is happening in 2 hours. See you in
> #wikimedia-office!
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>  wrote:
> > Heya folks :)
> >
> > The next Wikidata office hours are coming up. You're invited to come
> > and ask your questions - technical or non-technical. Some of the
> > things to talk about are for example the things listed in the "This
> > needs your input" box on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata but
> > other topics are welcome as well.
> >
> > Unlike previous Wikidata office hours we'll be doing this one in
> > #wikimedia-office.
> >
> > English: 5 Sept. at 8:00 UTC
> > (
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=08&min=00&sec=0&day=05&month=09&year=2012
> )
> > German: 6. Sept. at 16:00 UTC
> > (
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16&min=00&sec=0&day=06&month=09&year=2012
> )
> >
> > Hope to see many of you there.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] some good news about the future of Wikidata

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Hearty congratulations to the 'Wikimedia.de 8' on the continuance of the
Wikidata project - what great news!

Best regards,
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On Feb 21, 2013 5:37 AM, "Lydia Pintscher" 
wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Jan Kučera  wrote:
> > Congrats. Does this mean final deadlines (I mean wide deployment) for
> Phases
> > #2 and #3 will be further postponed?
>
> We're currently figuring out the dates for roll-out of phase 2 on the
> Wikipedias. We still need to get feedback on that from a few people
> who need to approve them. None have been set for phase 3 yet. For
> phase 2 though: You've seen that recent deployments have been pretty
> speedy so please bear with us. Things will happen as soon as they can.
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Geoccordinates are live

[Scott MacLeod]

This is really great!

How does Wikidata's approach compare with geocoordinates used by, for
example, Google's approach to mapping and navigation?

Scott




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Sven Manguard wrote:

> I've been doing some manual importing, and have found that in the vast
> majority of cases, when different languages' Wikipedias have different
> coordinates for a location, the coordinates that are most accurate are the
> ones in the language that is spoken where the location is. For example,
> some of the first locations to have their coordinates brought over to
> Wikidata were some train stations in the Netherlands. The Dutch and English
> Wikipedias' coordinates differed, and the Dutch coordinates were right
> every time. One English Wikipedia coordinate was even for the next station
> down the line, over an arcminute away.
>
> Therefore I think that we should coordinates for locations in Germany from
> dewiki, locations in Spain from eswiki, locations in the Netherlands from
> nlwiki, etc.
>
> Sven
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Cristian Consonni <
> kikkocrist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2013/6/12 Kolossos :
>> > Hey,
>> > the question is now how we can merge coordinates from all languages to
>> > Wikidata. I would propose to use the coordinate from the longest
>> article to
>> > have a good chance for using the most accurate one. Thats the way I use
>> in
>> > Wikipedia-World[1]. After an update we could also use this database for
>> an
>> > import.
>>
>> > Worst case would be that everyone use a bot and we would have a great
>> > bot-war.
>>
>> I think it should be possible to just import them as data with
>> different sources.
>> If a coordinate pair is the same over multiple Wikipedia then you have
>> more sources, see for example the property occupation:politician
>> here[1]
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> [1] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q76
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?

[Scott MacLeod]

Dear David, Denny and Wikidatans,

Thanks for this email thread.

I'd like to float a proposal for this ecosystem of Wikidatas vis-a-vis
World University and School, (which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW), with
our plans for a wiki school or online, Creative Commons' licensed
university (with free, online, C.C., MIT-centric, university degrees
planned) in all 7,105+ languages and 204+ countries. C.C. WUaS hopes to
engage Wikidata, as well.

I've begun a link on the WUaS, wiki, Subjects' page called "Wikidata
databases and ecosystem," -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects- which can easily
become an extensible, wiki, subject page itself (using a
modified version of Wikidata with the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) in all languages
and countries, to link all the (small number of) Wikidatas that emerge.
(Check out this extensible, WUaS, wiki SUBJECT TEMPLATE, since it has many
of the possible categories mentioned above in this email thread).

Here is the beginning, Languages' wiki page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages - eventually to link all
languages, each as a school or university.


And here is the beginning Nation States' wiki page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Nation_States - eventually to link
all nation states, each as a school or university.

The wiki, extensible, WUaS all-languages' (7,105 per "Ethnologue") and
all-nation states' (204 per "The Olympics") approach has the merit of
potentially including all emergent Wikidatas in all languages (for an
universal translator -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator), and in
all nation states for legal questions, in a way that fully supports the
amazing interlingual Wikidata (which is planned for Wikipedia's 285
languages +), and also, - since many/most of these Wikidatas may be data
about generative shared knowledge - will therefore fit well with World
University and School which is for open, free, wiki, people-to-people
teaching and learning.

Best regards,
Scott



On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:42 AM, David Cuenca  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>
>> [...] do you think there is a need for this file to have its own "F"
>> status in WikiData?
>
>
> Yes. The reason to have file entities is mainly to have a platform that
> can store semantic descriptions of a file. For text searches in classical
> terms it doesn't matter much, but to search things like:
> - "portrait engravings by artists born in Dordrecht"
> - "depictions of Dutch poets born between 1600 and 1700"
>
> For these kind of searches, the only possible way to return relevant
> results is to store the information a semantic way as Wikidata does.
> As Thomas pointed out, the task to transition to the new method looks
> somewhat daunting, luckily here there is not much trouble using bots to
> automate the task filling out the properties of the 17M files.
> The case of "image promotion" I think it is a different issue that would
> require some tagging (maybe "best depiction of") or a simple voting system
> (like in youtube, reddit, etc).
>
> It is also important to note that the old issue of sexual content in
> Commons [1] has gained *a lot* of traction lately since the last three
> op-ed's questioning/defending its suistainability [2] [3]. Basically there
> is a need that the searches show what you are looking for and not some
> other random content. The urgency to present a solution is very high at the
> moment, a matter of weeks before starting organizing WikiLoveMonuments with
> a cleaned reputation, so I hope that Wikidata can present a proposal soon
> that I am sure will be better than this other proposal [4]
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-05-10/Commons_deletions
> [2]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-06-12/Op-ed
> [3]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-06-19/Op-ed
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Image_information
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?

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ist dictionaries which made use of [2].
> Showing such relationships helps to build understanding for art
> provenance, but also for other art historical subjects, such as the
> historiography of art criticism. Getting these relationships outside
> of Commons could be done using an "F" namespace in WikiData I think.
> That would be a fantastic improvement to the Commons category system
> (which is still better than nothing).
>
> [1]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dirk_van_hoogstraten_by_arnold_houbraken.JPG
> [2]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schouburg_I_Plate_I_Leonard_Bramer_-_Dirk_van_Hoogstraten_-_Salomon_de_Bray.jpg
> [3]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JCWeyerman_-_VI_plate_I_-_Leonard_Bramer_-_Dirk_van_Hoogstraten_-_Salomon_de_Bray.jpg
> [4]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jean-Baptiste_Deschamps_-_Dirck_ou_Thierry_van_Hoogstraeten_p_411.gif
> [5]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dirk_van_hoogstraten_-_maria_met_kind_en_st_anna.jpg
>
> 2013/6/23, Scott MacLeod :
> > Dear David, Denny and Wikidatans,
> >
> > Thanks for this email thread.
> >
> > I'd like to float a proposal for this ecosystem of Wikidatas vis-a-vis
> > World University and School, (which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW), with
> > our plans for a wiki school or online, Creative Commons' licensed
> > university (with free, online, C.C., MIT-centric, university degrees
> > planned) in all 7,105+ languages and 204+ countries. C.C. WUaS hopes to
> > engage Wikidata, as well.
> >
> > I've begun a link on the WUaS, wiki, Subjects' page called "Wikidata
> > databases and ecosystem," -
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects- which can easily
> > become an extensible, wiki, subject page itself (using a
> > modified version of Wikidata with the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE -
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) in all languages
> > and countries, to link all the (small number of) Wikidatas that emerge.
> > (Check out this extensible, WUaS, wiki SUBJECT TEMPLATE, since it has
> many
> > of the possible categories mentioned above in this email thread).
> >
> > Here is the beginning, Languages' wiki page at WUaS -
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages - eventually to link all
> > languages, each as a school or university.
> >
> >
> > And here is the beginning Nation States' wiki page at WUaS -
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Nation_States - eventually to link
> > all nation states, each as a school or university.
> >
> > The wiki, extensible, WUaS all-languages' (7,105 per "Ethnologue") and
> > all-nation states' (204 per "The Olympics") approach has the merit of
> > potentially including all emergent Wikidatas in all languages (for an
> > universal translator -
> > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator), and in
> > all nation states for legal questions, in a way that fully supports the
> > amazing interlingual Wikidata (which is planned for Wikipedia's 285
> > languages +), and also, - since many/most of these Wikidatas may be data
> > about generative shared knowledge - will therefore fit well with World
> > University and School which is for open, free, wiki, people-to-people
> > teaching and learning.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:42 AM, David Cuenca  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Jane Darnell 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [...] do you think there is a need for this file to have its own "F"
> >>> status in WikiData?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes. The reason to have file entities is mainly to have a platform that
> >> can store semantic descriptions of a file. For text searches in
> classical
> >> terms it doesn't matter much, but to search things like:
> >> - "portrait engravings by artists born in Dordrecht"
> >> - "depictions of Dutch poets born between 1600 and 1700"
> >>
> >> For these kind of searches, the only possible way to return relevant
> >> results is to store the information a semantic way as Wikidata does.
> >> As Thomas pointed out, the task to transition to the new method looks
> >> somewhat daunting, luckily here there is not much trouble using bots to
> >> automate the task filling out the properties of the 17M files.
> >> The case of "image promotion" I think it is a different issue that would
> >>

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sources in Wikidata, new RfC

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi David, GerardM, Romaine, Denny, Jane, Robert, and Wikidatans,

In terms of sources in Wikidata, and an ecosystem of Wikidatas, I wonder if
you could have a look at the 'Economics' wiki, subject page at WUaS, -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Economics (accessible here at WUaS's
main, Subjects' page - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects - and
based on this template currently -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) - in terms of book
citations and references and Wikidata. The 'Economics' page is a good, WUaS
example of a MIT OCW- and Yale OYC-course-centric, academic, growing,
subject page, which soon might divide into a Micro- and Macro-economics'
wiki subject page, for example. How would such Wikidata ecosystem
articulations of citations and references emerge in all 7,105 languages,
for  example? WUaS is currently usually the American Anthropological
Association citation practices, but with WUaS in Wikidata, I'm assuming
these citation practices will/could occur in MediaWiki and SemanticWiki. As
a real life example of a potential Wikidata, how would WUaS's Subject
pages' book citations, and related, find form in the emergent ecosystem of
Wikidatas?

(WUaS seeks to become the MIT / Harvard of the internet and in all 7,105+
languages and 204+ nation states, and such book citation practices, and
related, will obviously be a foundation, and, again, just received the
'green light' from the state of California to begin the accreditation
process, toward online, C.C., MIT OCW-centric, university degrees, first in
English).

Cheers and thanks,
Scott










On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:54 AM, David Cuenca  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Guidelines for sourcing statements [1] had a 72% support. There are
> still two issues that were raised during the discussion that need to be
> addressed:
> - Sources used in Wikipedia (templates cite doi cite book, etc): should
> they be stored in Wikidata to be shared across all Wikipedias?
> - Source entity type: since we now know that there is going a specific
> type of item that will not have links to Wikipedia and that is somehow
> different from normal items, would it be meaningful to create this new
> entity type?
>
> This second issue was already discussed some time ago, but back then was
> not very clear how the guidelines would look like. With the guidelines
> completed, maybe now the perception has changed.
> The new RfC can be found here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Source_items_and_supporting_Wikipedia_sources
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
>
> [1]
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikivoyage will get phase 1 soon

[Scott MacLeod]

Lydia, Luca and Wikidatans,

This is great. I'm excited about this Wikivoyage migration -
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikivoyage_migration - for World
University and School, as well, if WUaS may be - see:
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects.

I'm including Robert S in this email, in Pennsylvania, who has expressed
interest in helping to develop WUaS in Wikidata, in a previous Wikidata
email.

WUaS is seeking high school applicants (12th graders in English) this
autumn 2013 to matriculate for online, MIT OCW-centric, Creative Commons'
licensed (so free), university degrees at WUaS in autumn 2014 -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Admissions_at_World_University_and_School
.

WUaS received the 'green light' from the state of California to begin
accrediting on MIT OCW in video -
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/audio-video-courses/ - in English, and then in
many languages and countries.

Cheers,
Scott






On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Luca Martinelli 
> wrote:
> > 2013/7/3 Lydia Pintscher :
> > [...]
> >> A page on Wikidata has been created where you can find someone to help
> >> you in case of issues
> >> (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikivoyage_migration) and as
> >> usual I am available to answer any questions you might have.
> > [...]
> >
> > I took the liberty of adding - with some rewording - your message to
> > the page you linked. This will be helpful for Wikivoyage users who
> > want to understand more.
> >
> > Question: do you (all) think it is a good idea to translate this page?
> > At least the basic explanations?
>
> I have already posted it to the traveler pubs. Best to translate it there.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] A personal note, and a secret

[Scott MacLeod]

Dear Denny,

Thanks for your great letter, and I'm sorry to learn that you're leaving
Wikidata, and as one of its 3 core developers as it was launched over the
past months, with all its major contributions to Wikipedia/Wikimedia and
online knowledge co-generation, multilingually! Hearty congratulations,
though, in your new position at Google, and I hope you can bring the logic
of Ps and Qs computationally, and data-wise, into that great coding
company. (Let's stay in communication vis-a-vis World University and
School, - which is, as you know, like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, with free,
online university degrees planned in many languages, - and the many
enjoyable coding possibilities therein :).

With friendly regards,
Scott






On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Luca Martinelli
wrote:

> 2013/7/11 Denny Vrandečić :
> [...]
> > Besides Wikipedia, Wikidata can be used in many other places. We just
> > started the conversations about sister projects, but also external
> projects
> > are expected to become smarter thanks to Wikidata. I expect tools and
> > libraries and patterns for these type of uses will emerge in the next few
> > months, and applications will become more intelligent and act more
> informed,
> > powered by Wikidata.
> [...]
>
> Dear Denny,
>
> I was in Haifa when there was the very first announce of Wikidata, and
> I was in Washington when Wikidata was definitely announced as a
> project.
>
> I still remember my excitement when I asked if the coats of arms of
> municipalities and states and whatever could have been put into
> Wikidata, and you guys said "yes, they will". I was so naive at that
> moment that I couldn't have imagined what this project would have
> turned into, yet it was this little answer to convince me to join the
> community.
>
> Now, along with some fellow wikipedians/wikimedians, we're in talks
> with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istituto_Centrale_per_il_Catalogo_Unico,
> the Italian institution that oversees a large part of the Italian
> public and private libraries. They are willing to give us their data,
> but also to establish a more thorough cooperation, involving
> librarians to contribute to Wikidata and the other Wikimedia projects.
>
> We could have set up a cooperation with the institute anyway, but
> Wikidata was the perfect key project to make this cooperation come
> true, because they were fascinated by the work on the authority
> control we're doing with VIAF and other institutions. If we managed to
> reach this stage, it was also because of your work. So, I'd like to
> thank you and all the Wikidata developers for having helped us with
> that.
>
> Good luck with your new work at Google and good luck with your family.
> :) Hope to see you at Hong Kong.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

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tled on land in climates that they knew by experience
> > how to farm. It is unknown how many people died in the badlands in the
> > 19th century, but you can be sure that the planners in Washington had
> > very little knowledge of what they were selling.
> >
> > But I like the way you think about using Wikidata to solve the bigger
> > issues like global warming!
> > Jane
> > 2013/7/9, Michael Hale :
> > > Well, you would run into many of the same decisions we already face
> about
> > > how much to limit automated uploads of data if you wanted to turn it
> into a
> > > live programming platform. You can certainly already use DBpedia and
> > > Wikidata to get datasets for many cool demonstrations of functional
> > > programming though. Yes, I suspect we are just at the learning to walk
> stage
> > > of programming in the big picture. My favorite examples of AI these
> days are
> > > when computers do large mathematical optimization tasks. I was most
> > > impressed by a paper last year that optimized the placement and
> > > configuration of coal power plants and more farmland to reduce
> transport
> > > related CO2 emissions by 50% for the entire US. The paper was called
> > > "Nationwide energy supply chain analysis for hybrid feedstock
> processes with
> > > significant CO2 emissions reduction". A free early version was
> published
> > > here:
> > >
> http://www.nt.ntnu.no/users/skoge/prost/proceedings/cpc8-focapo-2012/data/papers/092.pdf
> > > And to think how nice it would be if the customized optimization
> techniques
> > > they developed were merged into the code associated with those
> Wikipedia
> > > articles for everyone to easily use. The reason that task impresses me
> so
> > > much is that if a computer at Pixar draws a nice picture it is just
> matching
> > > what the artists could already partially see in their heads and if
> Siri on
> > > the iPhone tells me a good restaurant to visit it is just doing what a
> > > person that lives in the area could do, but if a computer redesigns the
> > > entire energy infrastructure for a country I have no idea what the
> solution
> > > will look like in advance. There is a lot of smart information out
> there if
> > > people are willing to look for it. How can the singularity get them to
> stop
> > > listening to the bad information? I think things like Wikipedia are
> > > definitely helping us all get gradually smarter though, so I'm
> optimistic.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: dacu...@gmail.com
> > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:32:37 -0400
> > > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with
> Wikidata and
> > > improved Wikicode
> > >
> > > Wikidata seems like a good platform for functional computing, it "just"
> > > needs Lisp-like lists (which would be an expansion of
> queries/tree-searches)
> > > and processing capabilities. What you say it is also true, it would be
> ahead
> > > of the times, because high-level computing languages never expanded as
> much
> > > as imperative languages (probably because the processing power and the
> need
> > > was not there yet).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wikidata as an AI... how far away is that singularity? :)
> > >
> > > Micru
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gt; "Nationwide energy supply chain analysis for hybrid feedstock
>> processes with
>> > > significant CO2 emissions reduction". A free early version was
>> published
>> > > here:
>> > >
>> http://www.nt.ntnu.no/users/skoge/prost/proceedings/cpc8-focapo-2012/data/papers/092.pdf
>> > > And to think how nice it would be if the customized optimization
>> techniques
>> > > they developed were merged into the code associated with those
>> Wikipedia
>> > > articles for everyone to easily use. The reason that task impresses
>> me so
>> > > much is that if a computer at Pixar draws a nice picture it is just
>> matching
>> > > what the artists could already partially see in their heads and if
>> Siri on
>> > > the iPhone tells me a good restaurant to visit it is just doing what a
>> > > person that lives in the area could do, but if a computer redesigns
>> the
>> > > entire energy infrastructure for a country I have no idea what the
>> solution
>> > > will look like in advance. There is a lot of smart information out
>> there if
>> > > people are willing to look for it. How can the singularity get them
>> to stop
>> > > listening to the bad information? I think things like Wikipedia are
>> > > definitely helping us all get gradually smarter though, so I'm
>> optimistic.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: dacu...@gmail.com
>> > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:32:37 -0400
>> > > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with
>> Wikidata and
>> > > improved Wikicode
>> > >
>> > > Wikidata seems like a good platform for functional computing, it
>> "just"
>> > > needs Lisp-like lists (which would be an expansion of
>> queries/tree-searches)
>> > > and processing capabilities. What you say it is also true, it would
>> be ahead
>> > > of the times, because high-level computing languages never expanded
>> as much
>> > > as imperative languages (probably because the processing power and
>> the need
>> > > was not there yet).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Wikidata as an AI... how far away is that singularity? :)
>> > >
>> > > Micru
>> >
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Puppet knowledge needed

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Lydia and Silke,

How extensive a knowledge of Puppet language are you looking for?

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> Heya folks :)
>
> Silke is willing to resurrect the Wikibase Vagrant so people can
> easily set up their own installation and hack on it. She'd need
> someone with Puppet knowledge for this. Anyone here able and willing
> to help?
>
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Pushing Wikidata to the next level

[Scott MacLeod]

Congratulations, Lydia!

Nice to learn of this founding story of Wikidata (and an amazing
development in Wikipedia), and thanks for all of your great visions for
Wikidata and Wikipedia.

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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Thomas  wrote:

> Congratulation!
>
> I hope that Wikidata will become far more better than the amazing thing
> that it is currently.
>
> Thomas
>
> Le 1 oct. 2013 à 18:42, Andy Mabbett  a écrit :
>
> > On 1 October 2013 15:30, Lydia Pintscher 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From now on I will be taking over product ownership of Wikidata as its
> >> product manager.
> >
> > I'm very pleased for you.; congratulations!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Happy Birthday, Wikidata!

[Scott MacLeod]

This is fantastic and great!

Congratulations on creating and deploying an amazing, interlingual,
Wikidata database - for Wikipedia's 285 languages, that we all wrote
together as group, knowledge generation!

Digital and friendly regards,
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> On 10/28/2013 04:59 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
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>> Today is Wikidata's first birthday.
>>
>
> What? One year only?
>
> I *barely remember* a World without Wikidata. Congratulations, and best
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Thiemo joins the dev team \o/

[Scott MacLeod]

Welcome, Thiemo,

So glad you think "code is poetry" and that you love every object
oriented programming language ... Happy coding! :)

Scott




On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Have fun and, make a difference :)
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On 5 February 2014 16:07, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone :)
>>
>> I'm really happy to let you know that we have another addition to
>> Wikimedia Germany's software development department. Thiemo is a
>> long-time Wikipedian and will help us out especially in Wikidata's
>> frontend development. Here's a bit more from him:
>>
>> "My Name is Thiemo (simply spelled "Timo") and I'm proud to have the
>> chance to become part of the software development department as a
>> front-end developer. Previously I coded interfaces for Windows Mobile
>> devices, helped coding games and DJ software as well as several
>> typical enterprise solutions (resource planning, warehouse management).
>> I'm an active Wikipedia user for 10 years now, mainly working on
>> technical stuff (templates, JavaScript gadgets, mangling bugs) as well
>> as organizational tasks (e.g. moderating deletion requests and
>> requests for comments).
>> To quote a colleague: I think "code is poetry" and I love every object
>> oriented programming language (JavaScript being kind of an exception
>> here) and supports regular expressions, my all-day Swiss army knife."
>>
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit: key facts, roadmap, how to join

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ase let us know.
>>
>> Our later releases will be able to load data and add query
>> capabilities that allow you to analyse the data. Again, your
>> requirements are welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

[Scott MacLeod]

Congratulations, Markus!!

Thanks so much for developing these digital tools.

Scott



On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Markus Krötzsch
>  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am happy to announce the very first release of Wikidata Toolkit [1],
> the
> > Java library for programming with Wikidata and Wikibase. This initial
> > release can download and parse Wikidata dump files for you, so as to
> process
> > all Wikidata content in a streaming fashion. An example program is
> provided
> > [2]. The libary can also be used with MediaWiki dumps generated by other
> > Wikibase installations (if you happen to work in EAGLE ;-).
> >
> > Maven users can get the library directly from Maven Central (see [1]);
> this
> > is the preferred method of installation. There is also an all-in-one JAR
> at
> > github [3] and of course the sources [4].
> >
> > Version 0.1.0 is of course alpha, but the code that we have is already
> > well-tested and well-documented. Improvements that are planned for the
> next
> > release include:
> >
> > * Faster and more robust loading of Wikibase dumps
> > * Support for various serialization formats, such as JSON and RDF
> > * Initial support for Wikibase API access
> >
> > Nevertheless, you can already give it a try now. In later releases, it is
> > also planned to support more advanced processing after loading,
> especially
> > for storing and querying the data.
> >
> > Feedback is welcome. Developers are also invited to contribute via
> github.
>
> Congrats, Markus! Great to see a first release.
> Want to post something on Wikidata:Project chat too?
>
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel

[Scott MacLeod]

This is so great, Denny!

I wonder in what ways MIT OCW Translated Courses, for example, may begin to
engage this - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/.

Thank you,
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

> On 1 April 2014 20:01, Denny Vrandečić  wrote:
>
> >> What if the author is already using "class='qlabel'" in their markup?
>
> > Good point. Would you mind making a bug on the github project?
> > https://github.com/googleknowledge/qlabel/
> > This should be configurable.
>
> Done:
>
>https://github.com/googleknowledge/qlabel/issues/1
>
> >> Why the attribute name "its-ta-ident-ref"?
>
> > Standards. http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/
>
> New to me. Thank you.
>
> > It is an absolutely terrible name.
>
> Indeed, but it almost certainly solves the "!already in use" issue!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Denny,

There's a 
"DumpProcessingExample<https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/blob/v0.1.0/wdtk-examples/src/main/java/org/wikidata/wdtk/examples/DumpProcessingExample.java>
" here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Toolkit

Cheers,
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Denny Vrandečić  wrote:

> I was trying to use this, but my Java is a bit rusty. How do I run the
> DumpProcessingExample?
>
> I did the following steps:
>
> git clone https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit
> cd Wikidata-Toolkit
> mvn install
> mvn test
>
> Now, how do I start DumpProcessingExample?
>
> Sorry for being a bit dense here.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
>
> On Mon Mar 31 2014 at 6:47:21 AM, Markus Krötzsch <
> mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am happy to announce the very first release of Wikidata Toolkit [1],
>> the Java library for programming with Wikidata and Wikibase. This
>> initial release can download and parse Wikidata dump files for you, so
>> as to process all Wikidata content in a streaming fashion. An example
>> program is provided [2]. The libary can also be used with MediaWiki
>> dumps generated by other Wikibase installations (if you happen to work
>> in EAGLE ;-).
>>
>> Maven users can get the library directly from Maven Central (see [1]);
>> this is the preferred method of installation. There is also an
>> all-in-one JAR at github [3] and of course the sources [4].
>>
>> Version 0.1.0 is of course alpha, but the code that we have is already
>> well-tested and well-documented. Improvements that are planned for the
>> next release include:
>>
>> * Faster and more robust loading of Wikibase dumps
>> * Support for various serialization formats, such as JSON and RDF
>> * Initial support for Wikibase API access
>>
>> Nevertheless, you can already give it a try now. In later releases, it
>> is also planned to support more advanced processing after loading,
>> especially for storing and querying the data.
>>
>> Feedback is welcome. Developers are also invited to contribute via github.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Toolkit
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/blob/v0.1.0/
>> wdtk-examples/src/main/java/org/wikidata/wdtk/examples/
>> DumpProcessingExample.java
>> [3] https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/releases
>> (you'll also need to install the third party dependencies manually when
>> using this)
>> [4] https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/
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Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Joe, Magnus, Andrew, GerardM, Jane, Daniel and Wikidatans,

Since "Language fallback is not a luxury like it is for British English, it
is essential for all the smaller languages. It is what prevents it from
being editable / usable" (per GerardM), and in terms of Reasonator,
statements, and careful design (DanielK), what are current Wikidata
processes to plan eventually for all 7,106 living languages (plus even dead
and invented languages) in the world per "Ethnologue: Languages of the
World, Seventeenth edition" (http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size), as
people add them, and use, for example, the ISO coding system (or similar)
for this, to anticipate not yet added languages, and especially for
'smaller' languages that GerardM mentions?

In terms of British English (en-gb) and English (en) distinction, why not
just code English in Wikidata as "ISO 639-3eng" per
http://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng as part of a careful design for all
languages, and then build out for smaller languages? (CC wiki WUaS is
planning wiki schools in all 7,106 languages, plus dead and invented
languages).

It seems that using or keying in on the ISO system, or a similar one, would
allow for remarkable extensibility and careful design of Wikidata, as well
as fallback for other languages such as Hindi, Odia or Malayalam.
Cheers,
Scott





On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I am talking about statements.. I am not asking for selecting items that
> have no label in a language.. This would only work if auto descriptions are
> in use.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 5 May 2014 12:52, Daniel Kinzler  wrote:
>
>> Am 05.05.2014 10:57, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
>> > Hoi,
>> > When the "other languages" box needs to become more flexible, it is a
>> different
>> > problem that has nothing to do with the ability to understand what
>> statements
>> > are made. At this time it is an absolute inability when there is no
>> label in
>> > *YOUR* language.
>>
>> You are talking about picking an item as a link target when creating a
>> statement
>> when tehre is no label for the target item in your exact variant?
>>
>> Yes, we can and should implement fallback for that more swiftly. In fact,
>> I was
>> under the impression this was already in place... Lydia, do we have
>> ticket for that?
>>
>> -- daniel
>>
>> PS: it's not an *absolute* inability: you can enter the ID directly. But
>> that's
>> not very nice, I know.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

[Scott MacLeod]

Great, Purodha, GerardM and Wikidatans,

I've gathered together some "Language Code" standardization sources, all
potentially helpful for unfolding good design, here ...


Language Code

Ethnologue
(Ethnologue now uses ISO 639 codes)
http://www.ethnologue.com/browse/codes

ISO 639
(International Organization for Standardization)
http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards/language_codes.htm

ISO-639-3
(International Organization for Standardization)
http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp

ISO-639-6 (International Organization for Standardization)
(This aims to include any and all language variants and it is not that
interested in using the political term what language has become).
http://www.geolang.com/iso639-6/

Language Subtag Lookup
(A nice tool maintained by W3C corroborator Richard Ishida to look up
current IANA defined language tags, and their constituents (subtags)).
http://rishida.net/utils/subtags/ .

I've also added these initially to some CC wiki WUaS "Language" pages (see
below), which 7,106+ MIT OCW-centric wiki-school plans will allow for many
more language additions with time.

As one Wikidata focus, probably already explored, it seems to make sense to
engage the ISO 639 codes and standards, since ISO-639-3 and ISO-639-6 seem
to address some of both of your concerns.

Does anyone know how ISO-639-6, for example, allows for, or encodes,
invented, "dead," animal/species' communication (or even computer languages
as "human languages")?

Cheers,
Scott




On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:26 AM, P. Blissenbach  wrote:

> Gerard Meijssen  writes:
>
> > Hoi,
> > There are standards that define British English et al.
> > It makes part of the ISO codes. We do not have to invent
> > something like  "ISO 639-3eng".
>
> Indeed.
>
> There is a nice tool maintained by W3C corroborator Richard
> Ishida to look up current IANA defined language tags, and their
> constituents (subtags) at:
>
> http://rishida.net/utils/subtags/
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] WP-geocoordinates filter by using Wikidata classes

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instance of"-entries in
> > Wikidata. (Only
> > >> 30% off all objects have such an entry).
> > >>
> > >> Greetings from Switzerland
> > >> Kolossos
> > >>
> > >> [1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31
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Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData Categories

[Scott MacLeod]

Jane, Lydia and WikiDatans,

These are great and helpful developments, which seem to be quite far along
now.

Jane and WikiDatans, can you point to similar helpful examples that would
distinguish how WikiData Categories and what one can extract with Magnus'
reasonator tool from what one can 'extract' with SemanticWiki from WikiData
Categories?

Lydia, are there any emerging video tutorials (in the manner of some of
Google's, for example) of tutorials about WikiData Categories and/or
Wikidata itself, in terms of making it very easy to use?

Thanks,
Scott



On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:

> Q17 is Japan, and if you are interested in people from Japan for example,
> you can do this:
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=7463305
> (thanks to Magnus' reasonator tool that can extract category-like info
> from Wikidata based on properties and qualifiers)
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Kinzler <
> daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 04.07.2014 07:10, schrieb Rohan Badlani:
>> > I had downloaded the wikidata dump from
>> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/latest/
>> > There is a file wikidatawiki-20140420-pages-articles-multistream-index
>> which
>> > consists of triplets like:
>> >
>> > 537:114:Q17
>>
>> I couldn't find documentation for the multistream-index format at
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>. I can't make sense of it
>> myself
>> offhand. Perhaps ask on the wikitech-l list. I suppose the authority on
>> the
>> question would be Ariel Glenn, perhaps you can get hold of him on IRC.
>>
>> Note that this format is used for all wikis, so it will not contain
>> anything
>> that is specific to Wikidata. It would be the same for Wikipedia.
>>
>> If you figure it out, please add the info to
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>!
>>
>> > which I interpreted as following:
>> > 537 - category of the topic (which I am unable to find. I want the
>> details of
>> > this item)
>>
>> It's not a category. Wikidata doesn't use MediaWiki's Category feature
>> for data
>> items at all. Wikipedia does, but there pages generally have multiple
>> categories, identified by name, not a numeric ID.
>>
>> If you want to build a classification graph of the concepts in Wikidata
>> (I'm
>> intentionally avoiding the terms "ontology" and "taxonomy" here), you
>> will have
>> to go by the properties P31 (instance of) and P279 (subclass of) which
>> are used
>> in many (roughly half) of the data items.
>>
>> > 114 - page_id of the item Q17.
>>
>> That seems to be correct.
>>
>> > Q17 - which is the item. (JSON:
>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q17.json)
>>
>> It's the page title, which, on wikidata.org, is the same as the item ID.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>> Daniel
>>
>> PS: we are close to providing JSON dumps on a regular basis, and also
>> make the
>> JSON contained in the XML dumps more readable. This will hopefully make
>> analyzing Wikidata less painful.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData Categories

[Scott MacLeod]

Magnus,

Thanks for the clarification. Adding some of the resources you shared to
the Wiki subject page at WUaS.

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On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Magnus Manske 
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Scott MacLeod <
> worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jane, Lydia and WikiDatans,
>>
>> These are great and helpful developments, which seem to be quite far
>> along now.
>>
>> Jane and WikiDatans, can you point to similar helpful examples that would
>> distinguish how WikiData Categories and what one can extract with Magnus'
>> reasonator tool from what one can 'extract' with SemanticWiki from WikiData
>> Categories?
>>
>>
> Can everyone please stop with the "categories"? Wikidata has items and
> properties. I assume you mean properties here.
>
> As for tools to get to data,
> * Reasonator [1] is for viewing a single item, and see related items
> * WDQ [2] is for machine-readable querying of Wikidata; basically, what
> SPARQL does on SMW
> * Autolist [3] is for getting "clickable" results from WDQ, intersecting
> results with Wikipedia (!) categories, and semi-automated editing
>
> For more details on these, feel free to email me, or search my blog [4].
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
> [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/
> [2] http://wdq.wmflabs.org/
> [3] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html and
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php
> [4] http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/
>
>
>
>> Lydia, are there any emerging video tutorials (in the manner of some of
>> Google's, for example) of tutorials about WikiData Categories and/or
>> Wikidata itself, in terms of making it very easy to use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>>
>>> Q17 is Japan, and if you are interested in people from Japan for
>>> example, you can do this:
>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=7463305
>>>  (thanks to Magnus' reasonator tool that can extract category-like info
>>> from Wikidata based on properties and qualifiers)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Kinzler <
>>> daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 04.07.2014 07:10, schrieb Rohan Badlani:
>>>> > I had downloaded the wikidata dump from
>>>> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/latest/
>>>> > There is a file
>>>> wikidatawiki-20140420-pages-articles-multistream-index which
>>>> > consists of triplets like:
>>>> >
>>>> > 537:114:Q17
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't find documentation for the multistream-index format at
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>. I can't make sense of it
>>>> myself
>>>> offhand. Perhaps ask on the wikitech-l list. I suppose the authority on
>>>> the
>>>> question would be Ariel Glenn, perhaps you can get hold of him on IRC.
>>>>
>>>> Note that this format is used for all wikis, so it will not contain
>>>> anything
>>>> that is specific to Wikidata. It would be the same for Wikipedia.
>>>>
>>>> If you figure it out, please add the info to
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>!
>>>>
>>>> > which I interpreted as following:
>>>> > 537 - category of the topic (which I am unable to find. I want the
>>>> details of
>>>> > this item)
>>>>
>>>> It's not a category. Wikidata doesn't use MediaWiki's Category feature
>>>> for data
>>>> items at all. Wikipedia does, but there pages generally have multiple
>>>> categories, identified by name, not a numeric ID.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to build a classification graph of the concepts in Wikidata
>>>> (I'm
>>>> intentionally avoiding the terms "ontology" and "taxonomy" here), you
>>>> will have
>>>> to go by the properties P31 (instance of) and P279 (subclass of) which
>>>> are used
>>>> in many (roughly half) of the data items.
>>>>
>>>> > 114 - page_id of the item Q17.
>>>>
>>>> That seems to be correct.
>>>>
>>>> > Q17 - which is the item. (JSON:
>>>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q17.json)
>>>>
>>>> 

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikinews Phase 1: August 19th

[Scott MacLeod]

Great and thanks, John!

Scott


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:14 PM, John Lewis  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Wikinews phase 1 (sitelinks) have just had a date announced by myself over
> on project chat <
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Wikinews_Sitelinks_.28Phase_1.29>.
> The expected data is August 19th, just after Wikimania :)
>
> The Wikinews page could do with some co-ordination from the Wikidata
> community and the Wikinews community, so please do participate and propose
> ideas!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] New initiative to promote friendliness

[Scott MacLeod]

Great, Mircu and All ... thanks.

It will be great to see how this friendliness focus, and related
connecting, may help to generate further Wikidata and coding creativity and
generativity anew.

Scott



On Jul 25, 2014 9:29 AM, "David Cuenca"  wrote:

> Worried about the harshness that lately has been developing, I have
> started a new initiative to counter that by promoting more dialogue,
> civility, and friendliness
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Shelter
>
> When you are with friends you don't need to put any rule or condition,
> because they are people you like to be with. If each one does a little
> effort to become someone who everybody likes to be with, then all harshness
> will disappear and Wikidata will become even more wonderful \o/
> And even if we don't reach utopia tomorrow, at least we'll be on the right
> direction :)
>
> I would like to invite everyone to participate in this initiative and to
> come up with new ways to reduce conflict before it happens.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

[Scott MacLeod]

James and Wikidatans,

Good question, and as a follow on question, how are templates (in
MediaWiki, I presume) in conjunction with qLabel (
https://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/ and
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2014/04/qlabel-multilingual-content-without.html)
likely to access Commons Wikibase ?

Scott





On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:56 PM, James Heald  wrote:

> Out of interest, are there any thoughts as to how templates are likely to
> access Commons Wikibase ?
>
> I could image Commons Wikibase sharing the same Properties (Pxxx) but
> having its own items -- perhaps starting C (C).
>
> Such a structure would make it easy to prototype templates using items on
> Wikidata while Commons Wikibase was being developed, just changing the
> relevant Q-numbers to C-numbers to port from accessing an item defined on
> Wikidata to one defined on Commons Wikibase.
>
> Properties on C-numbers could point to Q-numbers; but (with very rare
> exceptions) properties on Q-numbers would not point to C-numbers.
>
> Is that likely to be how things will be set up?
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] policy toward using non-CC0 licensed external databases as reference

[Scott MacLeod]

Maxime and Wikidatans,

Just as Wikipedia / MediaWiki / Wikidata continue to generate anew open
Creative Commons' licensed resources legally, and interlingually, I wonder
if beginning searching C.C. first - http://search.creativecommons.org/ -
for external-to-MediaWiki / Wikidata databases is a sensible first step in
unfoldingly defining "Wikidata-l policy toward using non-CC0 licensed
external databases as reference"?

Scott


Maxime Lathuilière, 08/09/2014 16:41:
> Google Books API's Terms of Service
>  is elusive regarding the
> licence but it certainly isn't CC0. Meanwhile, I guess I'm allowed to
> copy the information by hand, right? It's just facts about the item, I'm
> using this API just like I would have used a newspaper or anything as a
> reference, right? But could I automate or semi-automate (à la wikidata
> game) the import process without being in infringement with either
> Google or Wikidata policies? I would just do the exact same thing -
> taking facts somewhere in the world and adding them to wikidata - but
> more efficiently, no?

Most of that is probably non-copyrightable and Wikidata is hosted in USA
which have no database rights, so it can be legally ok, at least in some
fashion. It's however hard to draw a line, so if there are alternatives
it's better to use other data sources. See also the rather unconclusive
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights

Moreover, the Google ToS are very clear in forbidding any activity which
would result in you having a copy of their database/of the data the API
provides access to, IIRC even in form of a cache. However, you only want
ISBN? *If* you care about respecting your contract with Google, it may
be wise to directly ask them if they're ok with it.

Nemo

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons file-topic searching and storage

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,

In what ways are Wikidatan developers planning for Creative Commons'
databases for images, etc. - -http://search.creativecommons.org/ - - as
well as for interoperability, - so, beyond WikiCommons' file-topic
searching and storage images - especially if these CC databases already
have structured data support (and perhaps vis-a-vis Maxime's Google TOS'
question as well)? Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott



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lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hey :)
>
> Just an update from my side: We will keep non-Commons images in mind
> when designing the system. The goal is to provide them with structured
> data support as well. However initially we will concentrate on Commons
> to get it to work there as we can have the highest impact there.
>
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons file-topic searching and storage

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,

My questions about C.C. Wikidata integration / interaction have to do with
Creative Commons' entities /resources, as examples of external sister
projects. Are there any examples so far of Creative Commons' licensed
databases that interact/integrate/interoperate with Wikidata and which
might parallel or build on the ways in which Wikidata is exploring
accessing WikiCommons, and interlingually especially? And what are other
examples of Wikidata being used by external sister projects, and in each
language? Where (what URLs) will such lists emerge?

In thinking about the Wikidata/WikiCommons/Creative Commons' roadmap ahead,
I'm curious what the possible scenarios are especially for using
SemanticWiki / Wikidata in the Creative Commons' sphere, and in an
expansive way, even for the creation, for example, of Creative Commons'
related coding jobs in many/all 7,106 + languages, and interlingually (and
vis-a-vis WUaS).

What are Wikidata's nascent plans to support innovations in Creative
Commons' structured data projects in the future, for example?

In what ways too might metrics, such as Google Analytics, Watson Analytics
or MediaWiki Analytics, for example, be anticipated innovatively
roadmap-wise, and interlingually, and especially vis a vis
SemanticWiki/Wikidata and CC databases?

Thanks,
Scott

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Scott MacLeod
 wrote:
> Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
>
> In what ways are Wikidatan developers planning for Creative Commons'
> databases for images, etc. - -http://search.creativecommons.org/- - as
well
> as for interoperability, - so, beyond WikiCommons' file-topic searching
and
> storage images - especially if these CC databases already have structured
> data support (and perhaps vis-a-vis Maxime's Google TOS' question as
well)?
> Thanks.

Hey Scott :)

What kind of interaction/integration do you have in mind?

Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Welcome Jan!

[Scott MacLeod]

Welcome, Jan!

Scott
 On Sep 18, 2014 5:26 AM, "Thomas Tanon"  wrote:

> Welcome Jan!
> Thomas
>
> > Le 18 sept. 2014 à 13:36, Lydia Pintscher 
> a écrit :
> >
> > Hey folks :)
> >
> > I'm happy to let you know that Jan Zerebecki has joined the Wikidata
> > dev team. Some of you surely met him at previous hackathons and
> > Wikimania. He will be supporting the dev team on the backend-side.
> > Previously Jan has already been helping out as a volunteer around
> > Wikimedia in many areas - most notably ops.
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #126

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Lydia and John,

I'd like to volunteer to help you with putting together the weekly
summaries. Thanks for doing this helpful Wikidata information sharing thus
far.

Welcome Jan Zerebecki again!

Cheers,
Scott

http://scottmacleod.com
 Hey folks :)

Here's your summary of what happened around Wikidata over the past 2 weeks.
Sorry for not sending one last week. John and I could use some help with
putting the weekly summary together. Let us know if you want to help.

Discussions

   - A new blocking policy
   
has
   been accepted
   

   .
   - Proposal for an individual engagement grant to use Wikidata items for
   citations
   

needs
   your input
   - RfC: redirect vs. deletion
   


Events /Press/Blogs


   - past: Open Government WikiHack organized by Wikimedia DC in
   Washington, DC
   - upcoming: Wikidata training organized by Wikimedia UK with Magnus in
   London
   

Other Noteworthy Stuff

   - With the deployment next Tuesday you will be able to edit all
   sitelinks at once as well as all fields of the "in other languages" box.
   This is an intermediate step towards the new user interface and will evolve
   further over the next weeks. You can see what is coming on Tuesday now
   already on test.wikidata.org.
   - WikiProject Names
    aims to
   improve name related data on Wikidata. Initial focus is on first names
   (given names). Half of items for first names still need cleaning up, but
   15% of items for persons already have a given name defined.

Did you know?

   - Newest properties: Stack Exchange tag
   , vici.org ID
   , sourcing circumstances
   , has contributing factor
   , has immediate cause
   , birth name (Monolingual
   text) , title
   , Nupill Literatura
   Digital - Document , Nupill
   Literatura Digital - Author
   , Commons Creator template
   ,monogram
   , cause of
   , Cycling Quotient ID
   , male population
   , female population
   , number of households
   , contributing factor of
   , immediate cause of
   , used by
   , end cause
   , family name identical to
   this first name , country
   for sport , parents of
   hybrids , Glad identifier
   , kulturnoe-nasledie.ru
   identifier 
   - Showcase items 
   : Hessian Broadcasting Corporation 
   , Fishing Creek 

Development

   - Jan Zerebecki has joined the Wikidata dev team.
   
   - Worked on supporting statements on properties in
   WikibaseDataModelSerialization (bugzilla:66425
   )
   - Fixed broken xml api output (bugzilla:70531
   ), as well as some
   inconsistencies in the xml format and added tests that should help avoid
   future breakage in the xml format
   - Finished performance improvements for badges
   - Worked on entity usage tracking
   - Pietro from the EAGLE project came to visit us, one of the first 3rd
   party users of Wikibase. See http://www.eagle-network.eu
   - Added a hook point to allow 3rd party users (like the EAGLE project)
   of Wikibase to control what goes into the search index
   -

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #126

[Scott MacLeod]

Thanks ... Sounds like an interesting way to get to know Wikidata anew.

Just added in "Other Noteworthy Stuff" a new heading -  'New and
interesting uses of Wikidata'' - and "ProteinBoxBot ... " as a first edit
for learning

Cheers, Scott


On Sep 30, 2014 7:23 AM, "Lydia Pintscher" 
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> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Scott MacLeod
>  wrote:
> > Hi Lydia and John,
> >
> > I'd like to volunteer to help you with putting together the weekly
> > summaries. Thanks for doing this helpful Wikidata information sharing
> thus
> > far.
>
> Great. You can help us most by adding relevant topics and discussions
> to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next
>
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

[Scott MacLeod]

Romaine, Lydia and Wikidatans,

In what ways can we engage the weekly summary and the newsletter, and other
approaches, for example, to help educate users about best ways to "add a
newly written article to an item," or a language, easily, since
wikidata/wikibase
beneficial changes to Wikipedia may well lead to less authorial/editorial
ease?

Wikipedia's initial wondrous growth into 287 + languages is due
significantly to ease of crowd-source editing this collaborative wiki
encyclopedia, as I see it, and this is well worth trying to continue to
facilitate for many, many reasons. Flourishing users and editors are one of
the most important communities to nurture, as I see it. How best to help
users understand wikidata?

Scott




On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Romaine Wiki 
wrote:

> For more than a year I am asking users to add their articles to Wikidata
> when they have written it. That seems succesful, they added their articles
> more and more and did understand how to do that. Until recently. Now I get
> more and more complaints from users that they do not understand any more
> how to add a newly written article to an item. They seem to have tried, but
> fail in actual getting it managed. That is a worse development!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] all human genes are now wikidata items

[Scott MacLeod]

Great, Lydia,

I just added this to the "Other Noteworthy Stuff" in the summary:
"Blog post is now available at:
http://blog.wikimedia.de/2014/10/22/establishing-wikidata-as-the-central-hub-for-linked-open-life-science-data/
(See Summary #128)".

Is there a way to update the weekly date automatically please -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next ?

Thanks Lydia, Benjamin and Andra!
Scott




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> Hey folks :)
>
> Blog post is now available at
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.de/2014/10/22/establishing-wikidata-as-the-central-hub-for-linked-open-life-science-data/
> Thanks Benjamin and Andra!
>
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #131

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 Game.
>- Help develop the next summary here!
><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next>
>- Contribute to a Showcase item
><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Showcase>
>
> Anything to add? Please share! :)
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Live Demo time today 1 p.m. - 2.30 p.m. PST

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Marco and friends,

Any chance you're streaming this to the web, Marco? If so, what's the URL
please?

Thanks,
Scott

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Marco Fossati  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> This is just to let you know that I will run live demos for the tutorial
> at the Unicode conference today between 1 p.m. and 2.30 p.m. Pacific
> Standard Time.
> I kindly ask you not to overload the DBpedia endpoint (especially
> http://dbpedia.org/sparql).
> Also, I kindly ask the OpenLink guys to have an eye on it if something is
> not responding well.
> Thanks for your collaboration!
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata wins the ODI Open Data Award

[Scott MacLeod]

Hearty congratulations, Lydia and Magnus and all Wikidatans!

Scott
Hey everyone,

Wow! We won! \o/ This is incredible. I am so happy to see this
recognition of all the work we've put into Wikidata together. Magnus
and I had a blast at the award ceremony yesterday night. Here's a
picture of us on stage with Sir Nigel Shadbolt and Sir Tim
Berners-Lee: https://twitter.com/opencorporates/status/529721444549550080
Here's Wikidata written in huge letters above the heads of the
audience: https://twitter.com/marin_dim/status/529721419580854272 And
here is Magnus and me with the price:
https://twitter.com/wikidata/status/529723778558083074
I am delighted that they especially recognized the breath of topics
Wikidata covers and that it has been developed in the open since the
beginning. This award is for everyone in this community. We should be
proud! This is a perfect start into year 3 of Wikidata :)


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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Martynas and all,

Thanks for this engaging Wikidata RDF conversation.

Wikidata RDF developments are exciting especially for
eventually coding with IBM's Watson and related AI. See this related
conversation, for example -

"Poster Title: Not Elementary, My Dear Watson - Extending Watson for
Question Answering on Linked Open Government Data

RPI doctoral student Amar Viswanathan Kannan, working with Prof. James
Hendler, presented this poster at yesterday's Cognitive Colloquium at
Yorktown:

Linked Data, stored as RDF graphs lets users to traverse through
heterogeneous knowledge bases with relative ease. In addition it also
allows for data to be viewed from different perspectives and is also able
to provide multiple conceptualizations of data. This becomes very important
owing to the heterogeneous nature of the web. While traditional linked data
technologies like the Simple Protocol and RDF Query Language(SPARQL) allow
us to access the Linked Data knowledge bases, it requires considerable
skill to design queries to access Linked Data triple stores. It is also a
shift from looking at data as traditional RDBMS databases to knowledge
graphs. The growing acceptance of Linked Data triple stores as general
purpose knowledge bases for a variety of domains has necessitated the need
for accessing such knowledge with greater ease. Enter Watson, IBMs flagship
Question Answering System. It has been at the forefront of Question
Answering systems for being able to answer factoid questions on the
“Jeopardy!” quiz game show with pinpoint precision. The architecture of the
DeepQA system, of which Watson is an application has captured the
imaginations of the Artificial Intelligence Community, which has long
strived to build Cognitive Systems. The DeepQA system excels at generating
hypotheses and gathering evidence to refute or support these hypotheses. It
also evaluates all the evidence and provides analytics."

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Poster-Title-Not-Elementary-My-6729452.S.5933952670367760387?trk=groups_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmp_6729452

Cheers, Scott



On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Cristian Consonni 
wrote:

> 2014-10-30 17:34 GMT+01:00 Markus Krötzsch  >:
> > On 30.10.2014 11:49, Cristian Consonni wrote:
> >>
> >> 2014-10-29 22:59 GMT+01:00 Lydia Pintscher <
> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de>:
> >>>
> >>> Help with this would be awesome and totally welcome. The tracking bug
> >>> is at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48143
> >>
> >>
> >> Speaking of totally awesome (aehm :D):
> >> * see: http://wikidataldf.com
> >> * see this other thread:
> >>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2014-October/004920.html
> >>
> >> (If I can ask, having the RDF dumps in HDT format [again, see the
> >> other thread] would be really helpful)
> >
> >
> > We are using OpenRDF. Can it do HDT? If yes, this would be easy to do. If
> > no, it would be easier to use a standalone tool to transform our dumps.
> We
> > could still do this. Do you have any recommendation what we could use
> there
> > (i.e., a memory-efficient command-line conversion script for N3 -> HDT)?
>
> It seems that OpenRDF does not support HDT creation (see [1]).
> I have been using the rdf2hdt tool, obtained compiling the devel
> branch of the hdt-cpp library[2].
> Which is developed by the group who is proposing the standard
> implementation to the W3C.
> C
>
> [1] https://openrdf.atlassian.net/browse/SES-1874
> [2] https://github.com/rdfhdt/hdt-cpp/tree/devel
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next IRC office hour about structured multimedia data

[Scott MacLeod]

Glad to see Wikidata and Commons coming together first on December 2 and
then in January/February, and thanks for this great office hour record of a
collaborative conversation among Wikidatans and structured data folks -
https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-11-20 -
and also to see that structured multimedia data is up next. :)

Cheers, Scott


Hey folks :)

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Lydia Pintscher
 wrote:
> Hey folks :)
>
> We'll be doing another office hour to answer all of the questions
> about structured data for multimedia files. We'll try...
> It'll happen on November 20th at 19:30 UTC in #wikimedia-office on
> freenode. See
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=30&sec=0&day=20&month=11&year=2014
> for your timezone.
> Hope to see many of you there!

The log of the office hour is at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-11-20


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[Wikidata-l] Wikidata Tours - beyond "Items" and "Statements"

[Scott MacLeod]

Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,

Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -

when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page - for
References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming, and
especially inter-lingually ?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Tours - beyond "Items" and "Statements"

[Scott MacLeod]

Lydia, Helen, and Wikidatans,

Thanks and great. These tours - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
and developments are a great help! ... My take on these tours is that CC
Wikidata/Wikipedia's abundance - now in 288 languages - has been be
informed by the ease of anyone creating articles, or editing them, and in
any of 288 languages, thanks to wiki information technologies, and that
future Wikipedia generativity will be facilitated by "ease of anyone
creating articles," and in any language. As the amazing Wikidata (still in
its infancy at around 2 years' old) and related wiki structured data
develop, I hope these tours will focus on this generative ease.

As a further take, and in addition to "Items and Statements, as well as
References, Qualifiers, Ranks and Special Values" I'd like to see two
further more general (perhaps) tours ...

Articles -
How to create an article now with Wikidata and the above tours (so that
anyone can easily create one interlingually - e.g. an example), with, say,
possibly four languages in mind, for example?

Languages -
Hot to add a new language (7,106 languages minus 288 languages equals 6,818
further languages to add in Wikipedia) now with Wikidata and the above
tours (so that anyone can easily create one inter-lingually - e.g. an
example), with, say, possibly four languages in mind, for example? ...

focusing on the ease and openness of anyone simply adding them. (Does such
tours or similar already exist?)

And is it possible even to anticipate a tour which might inform the
development of an Universal Translator (e.g.
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator) for all
7,106+ languages (e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages).

This would indeed be a grand tour!

Thanks again for this great work.

Cheers,
Scott



On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Helen Halbert 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> There actually are drafts already prepared for the following tours:
>
>- References (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/References)
>- Qualifiers (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Qualifiers)
>- Ranks (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Ranks)
>- Special values (
>http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Special_Values)
>
> As Lydia mentioned, they will require some help to get them implemented
> and up on the site. (The content itself also probably needs some review and
> updates, which I am happy to do)
>
>
> On 2 December 2014 at 04:45, Lydia Pintscher  > wrote:
>
>> Hey :)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Scott MacLeod
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
>> >
>> > Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
>> >
>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
>> >
>> > when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page -
>> for
>> > References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming,
>> and
>> > especially inter-lingually ?
>>
>> It'd need someone to pick it up. Helen and Bene did the first ones but
>> now it needs someone else to finish them I think. Any takers to start
>> on a draft for the next one?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Tool for adding references and data to Wikidata

[Scott MacLeod]

Denny, Gerard, Lane, Lydia and Wikidatans,

In what ways could we use Freebase -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Freebase - as an example
to further develop Wikidata approaches, and process about, as Denny
writes "which
kind of data can be integrated in which way" in Wikidata, for integrating
other large external interlingual complementary data projects?

What is Wikidata's process for this? Conversation in next Wikidata office
hours? Adding such projects to other pages besides, for example,
Wikidata/Notes/Future -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Future - where I didn't see
Freebase?

Thanks, Scott

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Scott_WUaS




On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> As you know Amir wrote software to compare data in Freebase and Wikidata.
> Currently there are students working on a similar approach with other
> sources. Yes, we want sources obviously HOWEVER, the lack of sources should
> not hold us back from having valid and valuable data. When data can be
> compared with other sources and it IS the same, it is almost as good as
> having a source.
>
> Obviously data is as good as the source itself.
>
> The notion that we should not have data that is from a similar origin as
> the Wikidata data itself is mind blowingly  weird ... no excuse for it
> as far as I am concerned. Our aim is to share the sum of all knowledge and
> we should honour the hard work that went into Freebase.They are like we are
> and they deserve recognition and acceptance.
>
> In my honest opinion. I would LOVE to have more data in WIkidata. It makes
> the data that much more useful. I would LOVE to see more work along the
> lines of the new Google tool, the work of Amir, the work of the students.
> It is how we validate what we have. There is a lot of problematic data in
> there and we can find it, highlight it and come to a better approach each
> time.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
>
>
> On 17 December 2014 at 19:04, Denny Vrandečić  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gerard,
>>
>> I very much agree. It would be very good to have a discussion on which
>> kind of data can be integrated in which way.
>>
>> One way or the other, one of the most frequent criticisms of Wikidata is
>> a lack of references, which this tool will tackle on the way as well. And
>> at the same time it will allow for a human curation step, which I think is
>> crucial for the Wikidata community to gain ownership of the data.
>>
>> Just dumping everything into Wikidata is, in my opinion, not a
>> sustainable solution. But since the data will be released free, well, the
>> community can decide to do it otherwise, obviously.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Denny
>>
>>
>> On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 8:40:25 AM Lydia Pintscher <
>> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lane Rasberry 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > Where is the appropriate place on Wikidata to discuss this? This is big
>>> > enough for its own WikiProject. Does it already have one somewhere?
>>> Should I
>>> > make one? Actually I just did.
>>> >
>>> > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Freebase>
>>> >
>>> > I hardly know what the implications are of this but it seems big
>>> enough to
>>> > have a dedicated place for discussion.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks to Denny for whatever role you had in getting access to
>>> > well-developed data collected by another project. I do not understand
>>> that
>>> > is happening here but it seems like really good news, and I hope
>>> someone
>>> > explains it more.
>>>
>>> Thanks for starting the project, Lane. Will you announce it on the
>>> Project chat? That way most people on-wiki will see it and can jump
>>> in. Once it has a bit more content we can announce it more widely.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

[Scott MacLeod]

Markus, Denny and Wikidatans,

I don't, Markus. In the information age, this seems to be a widespread and
helpful practice in general (e.g. in LinkedIn and for some medical
records,, for example).

On the benefits of this side, this is a way for Wikidata to get most
accurate, and potentially, timely data about people.

Are there further criteria Wikidata might add to lessen misrepresentations,
etc., or to make more explicit what personal information is welcome,
building on past Wikipedia experience in particular here, and not a
conflict of interest?

Also, concerning POV, are there sociocultural or linguistic differences in
interlingually Wikidata, here that might be relevant? Would people in India
in Hindi represent their own personal data (e.g. due to traditions of
spiritual "selflessness") differently from Swedes in Swedish (due to a
different history of "knowledge generating practices"), for example, that
are worth addressing with specific criteria? In what ways has Wikipedia
addressed this already?

Cheers,
Scott
 On Jan 7, 2015 6:33 AM, "Markus Krötzsch" 
wrote:

> P.S. I also should declare a COI on this discussion: I am Q18618630. --
> Markus
>
> On 07.01.2015 15:25, Markus Krötzsch wrote:
>
>> Back to Denny's original question:
>>
>> Does anybody see a specific danger of abuse if living people get to edit
>> their own data right now? Entering wrong claims deliberately would maybe
>> not be the biggest issue here (since it is already in conflict with
>> other general policies -- we do not want wrong data, whoever is entering
>> it -- and the fact that we want to rely on external sources for all
>> non-obvious data would still apply). Could it be problematic if somebody
>> enters too much/too detailed data on their own person? Could somebody
>> use this to place links to external web content (spam) hidden in
>> personal properties? But this, again, would probably conflict with other
>> policies too, and it does not seem to be a problem specific to the
>> particular POVs that a living person may have. Any other ideas of
>> possible abuse? My main question is: where could POV be an issue when
>> entering (externally referenced) data of the granularity that we have?
>>
>> Some proposals of what we could allow/forbid that are specific to our
>> special form of content:
>>
>> * Allow living people to edit certain properties on their own page
>> (whitelist)? I currently don't see any way of really abusing things like
>> birthdate, given name, etc. that are just personal properties, unless
>> maybe in rare cases where there is a real dispute (maybe a living person
>> who insists on being younger than he really is?).
>>
>> * Alternatively, maybe it could even be enough to have a blacklist of
>> certain properties that one could be using in illegitimate ways (no
>> specific idea now what this might be).
>>
>> * I would also allow people to set their labels and reasonable aliases,
>> but not have them enter any descriptions (could be POVed).
>>
>>
>> If living people are asked to not edit all or certain parts of their
>> entity, then there needs be a process for them to report errors. I would
>> not like wrong information to be broadcasted about me on Wikidata
>> without having any way to get it fixed.
>>
>> In addition, there should be a template that one can use on one's user
>> page to disclose that one is the person described in a certain item.
>> Conversely, we should also use our "website account on" property (P553)
>> to connect living people to their Wikidata user account, so the COI is
>> recorded in the data. One could further disclose other COIs on one's
>> user page in some standard format, but maybe with Wikidata we could
>> actually derive such COIs automatically (your family members, the
>> companies you founded, the university you graduated from, etc. can all
>> be specified in data).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> On 04.01.2015 19:57, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. they can. That's stated explicitly:
>>>
>>>   A Wikimedia Project community may adopt an alternative paid
>>> contribution
>>>   disclosure policy. If a Project adopts an alternative disclosure
>>> policy, you may
>>>   comply with that policy instead of the requirements in this
>>> section when
>>>   contributing to that Project.
>>>
>>> And Commons, for one, has already done so:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Paid_
>>> contribution_disclosure_policy
>>>
>>>
>>> which says in full:
>>>
>>>  The Wikimedia Commons community does not require any disclosure
>>> of paid
>>>  contributions from its contributors.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 January 2015 at 07:40, Jasper Deng 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Andy: no, the terms of use are the minimum because since a user must
 legally accept them when editing a project, everyone is bound by them by
 virtue of editing. Local projects cannot override that.

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Andy Mabbett
 
 wrote:

>
> On 3 

Re: [Wikidata-l] Precision of globe coordinates

[Scott MacLeod]

Approaching precision would be invaluable, Markus, and especially for
eventual STEM research, for example, and inter-lingually.

Scott
On Jan 11, 2015 6:59 AM, "Markus Krötzsch" 
wrote:

> On 11.01.2015 14:53, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>
>> Hi Markus,
>>
>> Markus Krötzsch schreef op 11-1-2015 om 2:15:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anybody know the current documentation of the precision of the
>>> globe coordinate datatype? This precision was introduced after the
>>> original datamodel discussions.
>>>
>> No clue, I do know we have to do some conversions. See
>> https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/pywikibot%2Fcore.git/
>> HEAD/pywikibot%2F__init__.py#L290
>> for the relevant Pywikibot code.
>>
>
> Aha, so Pywikibot converts from "approximate size of the object" to
> "approximate precision of the coordinates" (the latter must take into
> account how far north the point is). Are you saying that the seemingly odd
> precision values in Wikidata have been created in an attempt to draw a
> tight bounding box around an object of a given approximate size? Do you
> think this encoding of approximate size is a good way of handling this
> information?
>
>  Do the reverse on seemingly odd values
>> and you probably end up with a nice dimension. Dimension is documented
>> at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoData#Glossary
>>
>
> Yes, this operation could surely be reversed without loss of precision if
> one knows the "radius" of any body on which we have coordinates. However, I
> am not sure if this "size of the object"-interpretation of precision is
> what Wikidata wants to say here in the first place. At least in the UI it
> looks more like a kind of "precision of measurement" or (worst case) some
> mixture of both.
>
> For Wikidata Toolkit, the big question is whether we should continue to
> try and convert the data to something that matches what the UI supports, or
> whether we should give up and say "precision is just any number -- make of
> it what you want".
>
> Markus
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikibooks is coming!

[Scott MacLeod]

So great!

And in all Wikipedia's 288+ languages, I presume?

Scott
On Feb 6, 2015 12:48 PM, "Helder ."  wrote:

> Woohoo!!!
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>  wrote:
> > Hey folks :)
> >
> > It's time to welcome another sister projects into our rounds. It'll be
> > Wikibooks. They'll get access to the interwiki links on Wikidata on
> > February 24th. Depending on how that goes I'll set a date for data
> > access. The page for all things Wikibooks is at
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikibooks. Please help by
> > giving them a warm welcome in 2 weeks.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikibooks now gets language links via Wikidata

[Scott MacLeod]

Lydia and Wikidatans,

Great!

In what ways might Wikibooks in Wikidata now make possible, or anticipate,
translation or correlation of a specific book between different languages,
if at all? In what ways might individual words (or even letters) in any
book in any given language, eventually become items in Wikidata where -
"items are used to represent all the things in human knowledge, including
topics, concepts, and objects" - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Items ?

Thanks for this exciting development.

Cheers,
Scott




On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hey folks :)
>
> Last night we added Wikibooks to Wikidata. Wikibooks' language links
> can now be maintained on Wikidata. Please give them a warm welcome and
> keep an eye on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikibooks for
> questions if you can.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-Freebase mappings

[Scott MacLeod]

Very nice work Haklae and team !

Best,
Scott



On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Thad Guidry  wrote:

> Nice work Haklae and team !
>
> And thanks for making this investment and sharing it publicly.  This will
> help everyone involved as migration progresses forward.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Thad
> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Kim Haklae  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am pleased to announce that the Freebase-Wikidata mappings are shared
>> in public.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://github.com/Samsung/KnowledgeSharingPlatform
>>
>>
>>
>> Google is already providing the mapping relation between Freebase and
>> Wikidata (https://developers.google.com/freebase/data), however, they
>> might not offer a updated version. We extract a set of identical
>> relations from both Freebase and Wikidata datasets using Wikipedia
>> links; several algorithms are also tested to find out same entity pairs.
>> Although this approach is limited to identifying all same entities of
>> both datasets, it would be a useful source to understand instances of both
>> data sources. The source code for extracting this data will also be shared
>> soon.
>>
>> The data is serialised using the N-Triples format, and the following is
>> the details of this data:
>>
>> - Total 4,395,258 triples (same entity pairs)
>>
>> - Updated: February 13, 2015
>>
>> - Data Format: N-Triples RDF
>>
>> - License: CC0
>>
>> - File size: 236 MB zip
>>
>> - File size: 2.5 GB (uncompressed)
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to ask me if you have any questions.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Haklae Kim
>>
>> Senior Engineer
>>
>> Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
>> scot@samsung.com / haklae...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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