Magnus, Thanks for the clarification. Adding some of the resources you shared to the Wiki subject page at WUaS.
Cheers, Scott On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Scott MacLeod < > worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jane, Lydia and WikiDatans, >> >> These are great and helpful developments, which seem to be quite far >> along now. >> >> Jane and WikiDatans, can you point to similar helpful examples that would >> distinguish how WikiData Categories and what one can extract with Magnus' >> reasonator tool from what one can 'extract' with SemanticWiki from WikiData >> Categories? >> >> > Can everyone please stop with the "categories"? Wikidata has items and > properties. I assume you mean properties here. > > As for tools to get to data, > * Reasonator [1] is for viewing a single item, and see related items > * WDQ [2] is for machine-readable querying of Wikidata; basically, what > SPARQL does on SMW > * Autolist [3] is for getting "clickable" results from WDQ, intersecting > results with Wikipedia (!) categories, and semi-automated editing > > For more details on these, feel free to email me, or search my blog [4]. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/ > [2] http://wdq.wmflabs.org/ > [3] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html and > http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php > [4] http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/ > > > >> Lydia, are there any emerging video tutorials (in the manner of some of >> Google's, for example) of tutorials about WikiData Categories and/or >> Wikidata itself, in terms of making it very easy to use? >> >> Thanks, >> Scott >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Q17 is Japan, and if you are interested in people from Japan for >>> example, you can do this: >>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=7463305 >>> (thanks to Magnus' reasonator tool that can extract category-like info >>> from Wikidata based on properties and qualifiers) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Kinzler < >>> daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Am 04.07.2014 07:10, schrieb Rohan Badlani: >>>> > I had downloaded the wikidata dump from >>>> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/latest/ >>>> > There is a file >>>> wikidatawiki-20140420-pages-articles-multistream-index which >>>> > consists of triplets like: >>>> > >>>> > 537:114:Q17 >>>> >>>> I couldn't find documentation for the multistream-index format at >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>. I can't make sense of it >>>> myself >>>> offhand. Perhaps ask on the wikitech-l list. I suppose the authority on >>>> the >>>> question would be Ariel Glenn, perhaps you can get hold of him on IRC. >>>> >>>> Note that this format is used for all wikis, so it will not contain >>>> anything >>>> that is specific to Wikidata. It would be the same for Wikipedia. >>>> >>>> If you figure it out, please add the info to >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps>! >>>> >>>> > which I interpreted as following: >>>> > 537 - category of the topic (which I am unable to find. I want the >>>> details of >>>> > this item) >>>> >>>> It's not a category. Wikidata doesn't use MediaWiki's Category feature >>>> for data >>>> items at all. Wikipedia does, but there pages generally have multiple >>>> categories, identified by name, not a numeric ID. >>>> >>>> If you want to build a classification graph of the concepts in Wikidata >>>> (I'm >>>> intentionally avoiding the terms "ontology" and "taxonomy" here), you >>>> will have >>>> to go by the properties P31 (instance of) and P279 (subclass of) which >>>> are used >>>> in many (roughly half) of the data items. >>>> >>>> > 114 - page_id of the item Q17. >>>> >>>> That seems to be correct. >>>> >>>> > Q17 - which is the item. (JSON: >>>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q17.json) >>>> >>>> It's the page title, which, on wikidata.org, is the same as the item >>>> ID. >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> PS: we are close to providing JSON dumps on a regular basis, and also >>>> make the >>>> JSON contained in the XML dumps more readable. This will hopefully make >>>> analyzing Wikidata less painful. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Kinzler >>>> Senior Software Developer >>>> >>>> Wikimedia Deutschland >>>> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President >> - 415 480 4577 >> - http://worlduniversityandschool.org >> - World University and School - like Wikipedia with MIT OpenCourseWare >> (not endorsed by MIT OCW) - incorporated as a nonprofit university and >> school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational >> organization, both effective April 2010. >> >> World University and School is sending you this because of your interest >> in free, online, higher education. 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