Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
There is very interesting and relevant work done by a group of scholars about modeling time for recording historical events as structured data. Please have a look at http://dh.stanford.edu/topotime/ and http://perio.do/narrative/. I am following the discussion related to the development of the http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic. In my mind, it would be a good idea to keep in sync with and provide insight into the other open projects for historical data, in this case geodata. The question of standards is being discussed right now :) Best, Susanna 2014-12-30 19:45 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, The Wikipedia article on the subject has probably most if not all relevant details.. Thanks, GerardM On 30 December 2014 at 16:39, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The most important people, as far as Wikidata is concerned, are the Wikidata developers. As long as they indicate that the software conforms to the standard we are good. There is no problem in them having the standard and publishing what is expected of the use of timestamps and time diffs/ Thanks, GerardM On 29 December 2014 at 18:00, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, tell me about it. It's hard to find anyone who has even seen ISO 8601 so there is not general compatibility between tools that accept ISO 8601 (date)?(times?); the xsd:datetime (defined mainly as a restriction of ISO 8601) is closer to an open standard, but people aren't so sure about extra digits in the date fields, but maybe we will need them to deal with the year 1 problem. IEEE 744 is a similar scandal since it hasn't been read by most developers, particularly systems developers, so it is unlikely that FP operations in your favorite language are completely conformant. Now IEEE does have the Get802 program which lets you get slightly aged documents for networking standards and ISO does release the occasional standard for free such as ISO 20222 but there is a big difference between those two and the other organizations like the OMG, W3C, IETF, and FIPS that publish standards for free and manage to somehow pay the bills. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. The fact that ISO has its standards behind a paywall is its shame. However, it does not necessarily imply anything about the use of the standard. Thanks, Gerard NB a paywall seriously hampers acceptance of standards On 29 December 2014 at 12:20, Jeff Thompson j...@thefirst.org wrote: The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing listWikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- *Susanna Ånäs *Käyttäjä:Susannaanas Wikimedia Suomi http://wikimedia.fi/ – Wikimaps http://wikimaps.wikimedia.fi/ – GLAM http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM @ https://twitter.com/WMFinlandWMFinland https://twitter.com/WMFinland / Facebook https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi / Liity jäseneksi! http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
Thanks for sharing those links Susanna :) really fascinating to find out about the related projects and discussions. I'll join in to any discussions about this on Wikidata - it's very relevant to the long term goals of Histropedia http://www.histropedia.com/ (interactive timeline powered by Wikidata, which I'm a co-founder of) so I may be able to add a useful perspective. I'm not sure where it is on the roadmap, but hopefully we'll soon get access to the 'before' and 'after' times for dates on Wikidata. I imagine this will open up a vast range of different uses for digital humanities projects, that are often dealing with uncertain time ranges. For example, we plan on using this data in Histropedia to visualise uncertainty in date ranges of events displayed on the timeline interface. Regards, Navino On 31 December 2014 at 15:20, Susanna Ånäs susanna.a...@wikimedia.fi wrote: There is very interesting and relevant work done by a group of scholars about modeling time for recording historical events as structured data. Please have a look at http://dh.stanford.edu/topotime/ and http://perio.do/narrative/. I am following the discussion related to the development of the http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic. In my mind, it would be a good idea to keep in sync with and provide insight into the other open projects for historical data, in this case geodata. The question of standards is being discussed right now :) Best, Susanna 2014-12-30 19:45 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, The Wikipedia article on the subject has probably most if not all relevant details.. Thanks, GerardM On 30 December 2014 at 16:39, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The most important people, as far as Wikidata is concerned, are the Wikidata developers. As long as they indicate that the software conforms to the standard we are good. There is no problem in them having the standard and publishing what is expected of the use of timestamps and time diffs/ Thanks, GerardM On 29 December 2014 at 18:00, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, tell me about it. It's hard to find anyone who has even seen ISO 8601 so there is not general compatibility between tools that accept ISO 8601 (date)?(times?); the xsd:datetime (defined mainly as a restriction of ISO 8601) is closer to an open standard, but people aren't so sure about extra digits in the date fields, but maybe we will need them to deal with the year 1 problem. IEEE 744 is a similar scandal since it hasn't been read by most developers, particularly systems developers, so it is unlikely that FP operations in your favorite language are completely conformant. Now IEEE does have the Get802 program which lets you get slightly aged documents for networking standards and ISO does release the occasional standard for free such as ISO 20222 but there is a big difference between those two and the other organizations like the OMG, W3C, IETF, and FIPS that publish standards for free and manage to somehow pay the bills. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. The fact that ISO has its standards behind a paywall is its shame. However, it does not necessarily imply anything about the use of the standard. Thanks, Gerard NB a paywall seriously hampers acceptance of standards On 29 December 2014 at 12:20, Jeff Thompson j...@thefirst.org wrote: The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing listWikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
Hoi, The most important people, as far as Wikidata is concerned, are the Wikidata developers. As long as they indicate that the software conforms to the standard we are good. There is no problem in them having the standard and publishing what is expected of the use of timestamps and time diffs/ Thanks, GerardM On 29 December 2014 at 18:00, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, tell me about it. It's hard to find anyone who has even seen ISO 8601 so there is not general compatibility between tools that accept ISO 8601 (date)?(times?); the xsd:datetime (defined mainly as a restriction of ISO 8601) is closer to an open standard, but people aren't so sure about extra digits in the date fields, but maybe we will need them to deal with the year 1 problem. IEEE 744 is a similar scandal since it hasn't been read by most developers, particularly systems developers, so it is unlikely that FP operations in your favorite language are completely conformant. Now IEEE does have the Get802 program which lets you get slightly aged documents for networking standards and ISO does release the occasional standard for free such as ISO 20222 but there is a big difference between those two and the other organizations like the OMG, W3C, IETF, and FIPS that publish standards for free and manage to somehow pay the bills. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. The fact that ISO has its standards behind a paywall is its shame. However, it does not necessarily imply anything about the use of the standard. Thanks, Gerard NB a paywall seriously hampers acceptance of standards On 29 December 2014 at 12:20, Jeff Thompson j...@thefirst.org wrote: The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing listWikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
Hoi, The Wikipedia article on the subject has probably most if not all relevant details.. Thanks, GerardM On 30 December 2014 at 16:39, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The most important people, as far as Wikidata is concerned, are the Wikidata developers. As long as they indicate that the software conforms to the standard we are good. There is no problem in them having the standard and publishing what is expected of the use of timestamps and time diffs/ Thanks, GerardM On 29 December 2014 at 18:00, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, tell me about it. It's hard to find anyone who has even seen ISO 8601 so there is not general compatibility between tools that accept ISO 8601 (date)?(times?); the xsd:datetime (defined mainly as a restriction of ISO 8601) is closer to an open standard, but people aren't so sure about extra digits in the date fields, but maybe we will need them to deal with the year 1 problem. IEEE 744 is a similar scandal since it hasn't been read by most developers, particularly systems developers, so it is unlikely that FP operations in your favorite language are completely conformant. Now IEEE does have the Get802 program which lets you get slightly aged documents for networking standards and ISO does release the occasional standard for free such as ISO 20222 but there is a big difference between those two and the other organizations like the OMG, W3C, IETF, and FIPS that publish standards for free and manage to somehow pay the bills. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. The fact that ISO has its standards behind a paywall is its shame. However, it does not necessarily imply anything about the use of the standard. Thanks, Gerard NB a paywall seriously hampers acceptance of standards On 29 December 2014 at 12:20, Jeff Thompson j...@thefirst.org wrote: The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing listWikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
How could we model events in Wikidata ? Thanks, GerardM On 29 December 2014 at 09:49, Dov Winer dov.wi...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
Gerard, tell me about it. It's hard to find anyone who has even seen ISO 8601 so there is not general compatibility between tools that accept ISO 8601 (date)?(times?); the xsd:datetime (defined mainly as a restriction of ISO 8601) is closer to an open standard, but people aren't so sure about extra digits in the date fields, but maybe we will need them to deal with the year 1 problem. IEEE 744 is a similar scandal since it hasn't been read by most developers, particularly systems developers, so it is unlikely that FP operations in your favorite language are completely conformant. Now IEEE does have the Get802 program which lets you get slightly aged documents for networking standards and ISO does release the occasional standard for free such as ISO 20222 but there is a big difference between those two and the other organizations like the OMG, W3C, IETF, and FIPS that publish standards for free and manage to somehow pay the bills. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. The fact that ISO has its standards behind a paywall is its shame. However, it does not necessarily imply anything about the use of the standard. Thanks, Gerard NB a paywall seriously hampers acceptance of standards On 29 December 2014 at 12:20, Jeff Thompson j...@thefirst.org wrote: The ISO standard for CIDOC CRM is behind a pay wall with a patent notice. Can it be used in an open knowledge system? On 2014-12-29 9:49, Dov Winer wrote: Hi Sam, CIDOC/CRM is the ontology of choice for Structured History as it is anchored on modelling events. An excellent project based on it is the ResearchSpace from the British Museum. See: http://www.researchspace.org/ http://www.researchspace.org/home/rsandcrm http://cidoc-crm.org/ Enjoy, Dov ___ Wikidata-l mailing listWikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
I am putting ideas together for a project that I am referring to as Structured History. The objective is to create a systematic way of accessing information of an historical nature within an ontological context that would permit historical reasoning. The elements of the project are (1) access to structured historical information, which WikiData is beginning to provide, and (2) relating the body of structured information to one or more overall ontological frameworks, and then providing the tools for accessing, displaying and analyzing the data. I have not yet identified an ontology that would be most appropriate for historical purposes, other than an EU funded project called Papyrus http://www.ict-papyrus.eu - but this seems to be used by no one. Therefore, I would suggest that the development of an historical ontology (possibly building on the work of Papyrus, which in turn built on the museum ontology CIDAR) be part of a structured history project. The model consists of historical entities that can be anything that exists or existed in time and place (animate, human or inanimate - book, river), Places, and Events (which may be nested so that a War event can consist of a sequence of Battle events). If a project of this scope were undertaken, it could provide the framework within which other projects, such as the history of science, could be developed. Issues with regard to WikiData are: (1) to what degree will information (that may be available in Wikipedia articles) be structured sufficiently for incorporation into the structured history project? (2) How can historical narratives be broken down into elements that can be collected in a meaningful way that retains semantic validity (veracity)? The system should be comprehensive enough that all information and artifacts in museums and libraries could be incorporated, either directly into the ontology or by cross-reference (to CIDAR for instance). I would be interested to see if there would be support for such an endeavor, and for incorporating it into the proposal for WikiData for Research. Thanks - Sam Smith (SammyWiki) Michigan -Original Message- From: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 7:01 AM To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 20 Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikidata-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts (Daniel Mietchen) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 18:43:06 +0100 From: Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikidata-l] Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts Message-ID: can6n2b0j6lyot4dgrjexrbq_eodkvw1nshkpxqkspapi94z...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear all, we are building the Wikidata for Research proposal [1] around use cases for Wikidata (or Wikibase) in research contexts (cf. Task 4.1). So if you are using Wikidata or Wikibase in research contexts already, or are contemplating to do so, we'd appreciate your comments. The same goes for use cases for DBpedia that would be enhanced by having a Wikidata/ Wikibase implementation. Thanks, Daniel [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research -- http://www.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de/en/institution/mitarbeiter/mietchen-daniel/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Publications http://okfn.org http://wikimedia.org -- ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l End of Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 20 ** ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData for Research Project Idea: Structured History
Hi Sam, thanks for this suggestion. Laying the groundwork for Structured X (and follow-up projects with such a more specific focus) is one of the key themes of our proposal, and X=history would fit in with several of the bits we are planning (cf. Task 4.1): - we aim to bring in metadata from as much of the scholarly literature as possible, which would always include dates, but may include pointers to historic events as a topic being discussed in a publication; - we also aim to explore use cases around museum collections; - we plan to build tools that facilitate using and expanding the Wikidata ontology. I poked around a bit on the Papyrus site and could not find any information about their ontology, nor would Google tell me anything about the CIDAR ontology that you mention - can you provide some pointers? In the meantime, the timeline for the proposal submission has been updated: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research#Timeline . Contributions to any of the items would be much appreciated. Thanks and cheers, Daniel -- http://www.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de/en/institution/mitarbeiter/mietchen-daniel/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Publications http://okfn.org http://wikimedia.org On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Sam Smith smsmith...@aol.com wrote: I am putting ideas together for a project that I am referring to as Structured History. The objective is to create a systematic way of accessing information of an historical nature within an ontological context that would permit historical reasoning. The elements of the project are (1) access to structured historical information, which WikiData is beginning to provide, and (2) relating the body of structured information to one or more overall ontological frameworks, and then providing the tools for accessing, displaying and analyzing the data. I have not yet identified an ontology that would be most appropriate for historical purposes, other than an EU funded project called Papyrus http://www.ict-papyrus.eu - but this seems to be used by no one. Therefore, I would suggest that the development of an historical ontology (possibly building on the work of Papyrus, which in turn built on the museum ontology CIDAR) be part of a structured history project. The model consists of historical entities that can be anything that exists or existed in time and place (animate, human or inanimate - book, river), Places, and Events (which may be nested so that a War event can consist of a sequence of Battle events). If a project of this scope were undertaken, it could provide the framework within which other projects, such as the history of science, could be developed. Issues with regard to WikiData are: (1) to what degree will information (that may be available in Wikipedia articles) be structured sufficiently for incorporation into the structured history project? (2) How can historical narratives be broken down into elements that can be collected in a meaningful way that retains semantic validity (veracity)? The system should be comprehensive enough that all information and artifacts in museums and libraries could be incorporated, either directly into the ontology or by cross-reference (to CIDAR for instance). I would be interested to see if there would be support for such an endeavor, and for incorporating it into the proposal for WikiData for Research. Thanks - Sam Smith (SammyWiki) Michigan -Original Message- From: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 7:01 AM To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 20 Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikidata-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts (Daniel Mietchen) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 18:43:06 +0100 From: Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikidata-l] Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts Message-ID: can6n2b0j6lyot4dgrjexrbq_eodkvw1nshkpxqkspapi94z...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear all, we are building the Wikidata for Research proposal [1] around use cases for Wikidata
