Re: [WikiEN-l] Fixed our client’s Wikipedia page.

2011-02-13 Thread FT2
Win-win, and community consensus can decide the reliance to place on their
newly written source v. other sources that existed.

FT2


On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 High motivation for making decent open-source images available:


 http://searchengineland.com/updating-google-image-results-for-online-reputation-management-63965

 Fred


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-13 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:25:17 + (GMT), wikien-l-Andreas Kolbe 
wrote:

 and she admits she thought it was a weird religion - - until she
 met Cruise. I'm not saying that I'm not a Scientologist because I
 think something's wrong with Scientology -- I want to be really
 clear about that, Jada says. But, she adds, In knowing Tom, I
 realize it is a religion just like other religions. 

And a religion always stops being weird when you have a good friend 
who's in it.

Personally, I find all religions to be superstitious nonsense, 
regardless of whether any friends or family of mine are in them.


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-13 Thread Marc Riddell

 On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:25:17 + (GMT), wikien-l-Andreas Kolbe
 wrote:
 
 and she admits she thought it was a weird religion - - until she
 met Cruise. I'm not saying that I'm not a Scientologist because I
 think something's wrong with Scientology -- I want to be really
 clear about that, Jada says. But, she adds, In knowing Tom, I
 realize it is a religion just like other religions.
 
 And a religion always stops being weird when you have a good friend
 who's in it.
 
 Personally, I find all religions to be superstitious nonsense,
 regardless of whether any friends or family of mine are in them.

Yes. And, with the organized ones, a brilliant, insidious - and very
effective - form of social engineering.

It's misguided to pursue ideological purity of any kind ‹ religious or
otherwise. Real sanity lies in embracing what we find useful in all kinds of
approaches, without having to swear unwavering allegiance to any of them.


Marc


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[WikiEN-l] A Mormon Persective from the Deseret News

2011-02-13 Thread Fred Bauder
10 controversial Wikipedia topics:

http://www.deseretnews.com/top/97/10-controversial-Wikipedia-topics.html

Wiki Wars: In battle to define beliefs, Mormons and foes wage battle on
Wikipedia:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700105517/

Fred




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[WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Woollard
This encyclopedia has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.

This encyclopedia has been checked against the following criteria for
B-Class status:

   1. Referencing and citation: criterion not met (many common
articles are not adequately referenced)
   2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met (currently 3.5 million
of an estimated 4.4 million articles)
   3. Structure: criterion met (seems to be reasonably well structured)
   4. Grammar and style: criterion met (mostly good enough, but would
not please a purist)
   5. Supporting materials: criterion met (multiple wikis surround and
support it)

I therefore award the Wikipedia class C:

The Wikipedia is substantial, but is still missing important content
or contains a lot of irrelevant material. The Wikipedia should have
references to reliable sources, but may still have significant issues
or require substantial cleanup.

The Wikipedia is better developed in style, structure and quality than
Start-Class, but fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may
have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance
or flow; or contain policy violations such as bias or original
research.

Useful to a casual reader, but would not overall provide a complete
picture for even a moderately detailed study. Considerable editing is
needed to close gaps in content and address cleanup issues.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Newyorkbrad
{{sofixit}} :)


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:

 This encyclopedia has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.

 This encyclopedia has been checked against the following criteria for
 B-Class status:

   1. Referencing and citation: criterion not met (many common
 articles are not adequately referenced)
   2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met (currently 3.5 million
 of an estimated 4.4 million articles)
   3. Structure: criterion met (seems to be reasonably well structured)
   4. Grammar and style: criterion met (mostly good enough, but would
 not please a purist)
   5. Supporting materials: criterion met (multiple wikis surround and
 support it)

 I therefore award the Wikipedia class C:

 The Wikipedia is substantial, but is still missing important content
 or contains a lot of irrelevant material. The Wikipedia should have
 references to reliable sources, but may still have significant issues
 or require substantial cleanup.

 The Wikipedia is better developed in style, structure and quality than
 Start-Class, but fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may
 have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance
 or flow; or contain policy violations such as bias or original
 research.

 Useful to a casual reader, but would not overall provide a complete
 picture for even a moderately detailed study. Considerable editing is
 needed to close gaps in content and address cleanup issues.

 --
 -Ian Woollard

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:


 I therefore award the Wikipedia class C:


Considering that 55% of articles are stubs and 21% are start awarding
Wikipedia a C overall is quite generous.

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Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab
University of Colorado at Boulder
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
I say it's start class at best.

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Brian J Mingus
brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:


 I therefore award the Wikipedia class C:


 Considering that 55% of articles are stubs and 21% are start awarding
 Wikipedia a C overall is quite generous.

 --
 Brian Mingus
 Graduate student
 Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab
 University of Colorado at Boulder
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Woollard
On 14/02/2011, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote:
 {{sofixit}} :)

fixin' the Wikipedia - brb

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Newyorkbrad
Can we at least agree it's High-importance?

Newyorkbrad

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:

 This encyclopedia has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.

 This encyclopedia has been checked against the following criteria for
 B-Class status:

   1. Referencing and citation: criterion not met (many common
 articles are not adequately referenced)
   2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met (currently 3.5 million
 of an estimated 4.4 million articles)
   3. Structure: criterion met (seems to be reasonably well structured)
   4. Grammar and style: criterion met (mostly good enough, but would
 not please a purist)
   5. Supporting materials: criterion met (multiple wikis surround and
 support it)

 I therefore award the Wikipedia class C:

 The Wikipedia is substantial, but is still missing important content
 or contains a lot of irrelevant material. The Wikipedia should have
 references to reliable sources, but may still have significant issues
 or require substantial cleanup.

 The Wikipedia is better developed in style, structure and quality than
 Start-Class, but fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may
 have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance
 or flow; or contain policy violations such as bias or original
 research.

 Useful to a casual reader, but would not overall provide a complete
 picture for even a moderately detailed study. Considerable editing is
 needed to close gaps in content and address cleanup issues.

 --
 -Ian Woollard

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Woollard
On 14/02/2011, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 Considering that 55% of articles are stubs and 21% are start awarding
 Wikipedia a C overall is quite generous.

I think you can't take the simple percentages of articles, a lot of
the most important and well visited articles are pretty well sorted,
whereas the stubs are mostly articles few people go to.

I would think that percentages of FA/GA/A/B/C/Start/Stub with respect
to page hits would be much more illuminating.

 --
 Brian Mingus
 Graduate student
 Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab
 University of Colorado at Boulder

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Steve Bennett
 I would think that percentages of FA/GA/A/B/C/Start/Stub with respect
 to page hits would be much more illuminating.

Ooh, I'd like to see that. And to get a list of pages that are well
below par considering their popularity.

Steve

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