[WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
I notice that the article on the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon has recently been deleted, and it has in fact been deleted many times over the years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader-Meinhof_phenomenon However, according to stats.grok.se, this article is quite popular, having been viewed *around 350 thousand times since 2007*. Here's the script I wrote: for i in $(wget --quiet -O- http://stats.grok.se/en/200712/Baader-meinhof%20phenomenon | grep '>2' | cut -f2 -d'>' | cut -f1 -d'<');do wget --quiet -O- http://stats.grok.se/en/$i/Baader-meinhof%20phenomenon | grep 'has been viewed' | sed 's/.*viewed//;s/ //g';done 201402: 67419 201401: 20892 201312: 19924 201311: 5886 201310: 757 201309: 1801 201308: 756 201307: 1019 201306: 1153 201305: 3548 201304: 1092 201303: 1565 201302: 746 201301: 2291 201212: 586 201211: 612 201210: 1062 201209: 586 201208: 360 201207: 326 201206: 238 201205: 277 201204: 286 201203: 298 201202: 392 201201: 743 201112: 392 20: 566 201110: 571 201109: 460 201108: 778 201107: 1735 201106: 452 201105: 368 201104: 409 201103: 336 201102: 649 201101: 475 201012: 295 201011: 274 201010: 373 201009: 325 201008: 363 201007: 609 201006: 844 201005: 751 201004: 810 201003: 522 200712: 454 Total: 348201 Wikipedia's policies are irrelevant: This phenomenon has entered the lexicon, and is now well known simply due to its existence in Wikipedia. Since the phenomenon didn't have a well known name, I've been telling people about it for quite some time now, and it has recently enjoyed a huge surge in popularity, *due to its existence on Wikipedia*. The article should reinstated, a section concerning the unique nature of its notability should be added. Cheers, Brian Mingus ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
On 5 March 2014 22:04, Brian J Mingus wrote: > Wikipedia's policies are irrelevant: This phenomenon has entered the > lexicon, and is now well known simply due to its existence in Wikipedia. > Since the phenomenon didn't have a well known name, I've been telling > people about it for quite some time now, and it has recently enjoyed a huge > surge in popularity, *due to its existence on Wikipedia*. At least we killed "analogue disc record" before it entered English. > The article should reinstated, a section concerning the unique nature of > its notability should be added. This argument doesn't seem to convince (though that does resemble reasonable popularity). The fourth AFD notes the problem in this case: really crappy sources. The sort of thing that would lead me to !vote "delete without prejudice". I recall finding a list somewhere of article titles that got lots of hits but didn't have articles, but don't recall where. I may be misremembering of course. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
On 8 March 2014 09:20, David Gerard wrote: > On 5 March 2014 22:04, Brian J Mingus wrote: >> The article should reinstated, a section concerning the unique nature of >> its notability should be added. > This argument doesn't seem to convince (though that does resemble > reasonable popularity). The fourth AFD notes the problem in this case: > really crappy sources. The sort of thing that would lead me to !vote > "delete without prejudice". linkto:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader-Meinhof_phenomenon in Google shows that it hits Reddit and apparently 4chan a bit. Apparently StumbleUpon likes it too. This would account for the hit rates - it's an amusing thing people would like there to be a name for, c.f. "The Meaning Of Liff" - but still doesn't supply us with sufficient material to base a solid article on. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
On 8 March 2014 18:04, Brian J Mingus wrote: > The reason the name stuck is that "Baader-Meinhof" is a weird name, and one > would not expect to see it multiple times independently in short succession. > Hence the name "Baader-Meinhof phenomenon" (which is also the name of a > book) is analogous to onomatopoeia in that both represent the thing they are > describing in some way - this is also similar to homoiconicity. It's a > perfect name - much better than "frequency illusion" - and a substantial > number of people now know it by this name, in part due to its longstanding > and interesting history of existence on Wikipedia, which has advertised it > to hundreds of thousands of people and generated tens of thousands of > websites which use it by that name. > The article should clearly stay! Now you just need sources to this effect. There's always writing them ... - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
And I thought it was just the Baader, Browder, Bauer phenomenon... Fred Bauder > On 8 March 2014 18:04, Brian J Mingus wrote: > >> The reason the name stuck is that "Baader-Meinhof" is a weird name, and >> one >> would not expect to see it multiple times independently in short >> succession. >> Hence the name "Baader-Meinhof phenomenon" (which is also the name of a >> book) is analogous to onomatopoeia in that both represent the thing >> they are >> describing in some way - this is also similar to homoiconicity. It's a >> perfect name - much better than "frequency illusion" - and a >> substantial >> number of people now know it by this name, in part due to its >> longstanding >> and interesting history of existence on Wikipedia, which has advertised >> it >> to hundreds of thousands of people and generated tens of thousands of >> websites which use it by that name. >> The article should clearly stay! > > > Now you just need sources to this effect. There's always writing them ... > > > - d. > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
