[WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-17 Thread Steve Bennett
A previous post inspired me to use tineye.com to see if any of my
photos uploaded to Wikipedia have been reused anywhere. It's
interesting to see that some have!

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/09/25/rbs-group-bulks-up-abn-amro-shareholding/

Yes, a Wall Street Journal blog used my (featured) image of Luna Park
in Melbourne. Metaphorically...

http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/multimedia/2008/06/gallery_roller_coasters?slide=2&slideView=10
Wired carefully credits 7 out of the 8 photos in its half-arsed
"Collest roller coasters" collection. Guess which one misses out?

http://www.spoki.lv/foto-izlases/Pasi-briesmigakie-kalnini-pasaule/8989
Some latvian linkspam site probably earned a couple of cents from it...

http://peccataminuta.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/mont-saint-michele/
The second image from the top (yes, the terrible one with the white
sky) is surprisingly popular...god knows why.

http://celticfestival.ie/programme_welsh.php
The church illustrating "Dydd Iau Hydref 4" is from
[[Image:Church_in_Kilkenny.jpg]] - I didn't even know which church it
was when I uploaded it :) And now the locals are using the image for
their own tourism site...cool!

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http://www.tuning.sk/dokument-Uplynuly-tyzden-az-1-323-sita-93176&sl=sk&tl=en&history_state0=
Heh, they're using my photo of a truck crash near Melbourne University
to illustrate a story about car accidents in Bratislava...

http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_995337_Real_Crashes_7.htm
Oh and look, someone's made it the first image in a really crappy
slideshow of vehicle accidents. How lovely.

But the most popular image of all?
http://tineye.com/search/7b34c1bae7eba7ca3d2cf92816047c937add7399

I'm not quite sure what to make of all this. I do wish we were using a
much better image repository than Commons.

Steve

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-17 Thread Durova
Interesting.  For the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake *Wired* credits the
original photographer but not the restoration.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/dayintech_0418
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sfearthquake3b.jpg

A law firm's website doesn't credit the restoration on Louis Brandeis's
portrait when they run it alongside a listing for one of their partner's
"Champions of Justice" radio show.

http://www.jjllplaw.com/newsupdate.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brandeisl.jpg

*Time* uses the same restoration, also without credit.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1895379_1895421_1895405,00.html

And the government of Australia appears to be using the restoration of
Douglas MacArthur uncredited.
http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/waratsea/kamikaze.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_MacArthur_lands_Leyte1.jpg

Thoughts?


On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Steve Bennett  wrote:

> A previous post inspired me to use tineye.com to see if any of my
> photos uploaded to Wikipedia have been reused anywhere. It's
> interesting to see that some have!
>
>
> http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/09/25/rbs-group-bulks-up-abn-amro-shareholding/
>
> Yes, a Wall Street Journal blog used my (featured) image of Luna Park
> in Melbourne. Metaphorically...
>
>
> http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/multimedia/2008/06/gallery_roller_coasters?slide=2&slideView=10
> Wired carefully credits 7 out of the 8 photos in its half-arsed
> "Collest roller coasters" collection. Guess which one misses out?
>
> http://www.spoki.lv/foto-izlases/Pasi-briesmigakie-kalnini-pasaule/8989
> Some latvian linkspam site probably earned a couple of cents from it...
>
> http://peccataminuta.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/mont-saint-michele/
> The second image from the top (yes, the terrible one with the white
> sky) is surprisingly popular...god knows why.
>
> http://celticfestival.ie/programme_welsh.php
> The church illustrating "Dydd Iau Hydref 4" is from
> [[Image:Church_in_Kilkenny.jpg]] - I didn't even know which church it
> was when I uploaded it :) And now the locals are using the image for
> their own tourism site...cool!
>
>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http://www.tuning.sk/dokument-Uplynuly-tyzden-az-1-323-sita-93176&sl=sk&tl=en&history_state0=
> Heh, they're using my photo of a truck crash near Melbourne University
> to illustrate a story about car accidents in Bratislava...
>
> http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_995337_Real_Crashes_7.htm
> Oh and look, someone's made it the first image in a really crappy
> slideshow of vehicle accidents. How lovely.
>
> But the most popular image of all?
> http://tineye.com/search/7b34c1bae7eba7ca3d2cf92816047c937add7399
>
> I'm not quite sure what to make of all this. I do wish we were using a
> much better image repository than Commons.
>
> Steve
>
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Durova wrote:
> And the government of Australia appears to be using the restoration of
> Douglas MacArthur uncredited.
> http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/waratsea/kamikaze.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_MacArthur_lands_Leyte1.jpg

Yeah but now you're getting really subtle. Crediting a restoration is
a less obvious thing to do, and probably less serious if they don't.
Speaking for myself, I often disregard copyright notices when the
source material is clearly very old - I assume the copyright notices
have been plastered all over without thought. But maybe I'm missing
transformation processes...

Btw, found an even better reuse of one of my images:
http://article.wn.com/view/2007/11/30/A_man_says_he_was_robbed_of_700_during_a_cocaine_deal_before/

Kind of amusing. The text even refers to a "pickup" truck, not a cement mixer...

Steve

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-17 Thread Durova
Well, I don't mind that these things run without financial compensation.
But it would be nice to receive credit.  The Brandeis restoration especially
was a difficult job that took about three days.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Steve Bennett  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Durova wrote:
> > And the government of Australia appears to be using the restoration of
> > Douglas MacArthur uncredited.
> > http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/waratsea/kamikaze.html
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_MacArthur_lands_Leyte1.jpg
>
> Yeah but now you're getting really subtle. Crediting a restoration is
> a less obvious thing to do, and probably less serious if they don't.
> Speaking for myself, I often disregard copyright notices when the
> source material is clearly very old - I assume the copyright notices
> have been plastered all over without thought. But maybe I'm missing
> transformation processes...
>
> Btw, found an even better reuse of one of my images:
>
> http://article.wn.com/view/2007/11/30/A_man_says_he_was_robbed_of_700_during_a_cocaine_deal_before/
>
> Kind of amusing. The text even refers to a "pickup" truck, not a cement
> mixer...
>
> Steve
>
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Durova wrote:
> Well, I don't mind that these things run without financial compensation.
> But it would be nice to receive credit.  The Brandeis restoration especially
> was a difficult job that took about three days.

Ah - wow. Maybe in those cases, a clear message to that effect is
worthwhile on the page?

Here's another one of my images I just found:
http://www.french-riviera-mag.com/tourism/nice-information-13303.htm

Incredibly, I think they're actually complying with the GFDL. Link to
GFDL licence, *and* link to Wikipedia authors list.

I think I'm starting to think that if Wikipedia credited
photographers, then people who reuse Wikipedia material would be more
likely to do so too.

Steve

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Bain
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> I think I'm starting to think that if Wikipedia credited
> photographers, then people who reuse Wikipedia material would be more
> likely to do so too.

We don't credit writers (and as of Monday reusers are being encouraged
not to either).

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
- "Stephen Bain"  wrote: 
> From: "Stephen Bain"  
> To: "English Wikipedia"  
> Sent: Thursday, 18 June, 2009 08:25:35 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
> Portugal 
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: 
> > 
> > I think I'm starting to think that if Wikipedia credited 
> > photographers, then people who reuse Wikipedia material would be more 
> > likely to do so too. 
> 
> We don't credit writers (and as of Monday reusers are being encouraged 
> not to either). 

Wikinews interestingly does for images. I never quite understood why they do 
and we don't - maybe it'll catch on! 

Andrew 
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Image reuse

2009-06-18 Thread geni
2009/6/18 Andrew Turvey :
> Wikinews interestingly does for images. I never quite understood why they do 
> and we don't - >maybe it'll catch on!
>
> Andrew

Basically because having "credit:wetriffs.com" in the article space
would be inappropriate.

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