[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Decision of WLM in Ukraine organizers not to submit photos for the international round

[Nicu Buculei]

My opinion may not be worth much as I was not involved at all this year in
WLM, but I was an organizer for Romania between 2011-2015 and a contributor
in several other years. I support you 100%, I would do the same.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022, 6:46 pm Olga Milianovych, <
olga.milianov...@wikimedia.org.ua> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> On behalf of the organizing team for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine I’m
> writing to inform you of our decision not to submit photos for the
> international round.
>
> Traditionally, Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine has been one of the biggest
> WLM local contests in the world, as well as among the biggest projects
> supported by Wikimedia Ukraine.
>
> This year, Ukraine and subsequently the contest has suffered from Russia’s
> full-scale invasion. Particularly, for security reasons the organizers had
> to limit submissions only to photos taken before February 24th, 2022, which
> is the date when Russia openly invaded Ukraine.
>
> Despite the limitations, we managed to organize the contest in 2022 and
> attract almost 14,000 photos of Ukrainian cultural heritage from almost 300
> participants. They illustrate over 5,300 monuments, including 351 monuments
> depicted for the first time.
>
> However, the local organizers will not be submitting Ukrainian photos for
> the international round because of the international organizers’ decisions
> to accept photos from Russia on the international stage. To be clear, we do
> not support this decision and had asked the international team not to
> accept Russian photos in the international round.
>
> While we fully support the spread of free knowledge in various forms, we
> believe that it is not appropriate to promote on the international level
> photos from the country that wages a brutal war against Ukraine, kills
> thousands of Ukrainians – and systematically destroys and steals Ukrainian
> cultural, architectural and archaeological monuments.
>
> Besides, Russia’s war has deprived Ukrainian photos of equal conditions in
> the competition. While daily life in Russia continues largely as normal,
> Ukrainian photographers have had to operate in extremely difficult
> conditions and under many limitations – both the formal ones imposed for
> security reasons and the overall situation in Ukraine (power blackouts,
> problems with internet connectivity, personal hardship etc.)
>
> Therefore, we cannot accept Ukrainian photos competing alongside Russian
> ones – we do not think that in current circumstances it is the right thing
> to announce which Ukrainian photos are better and which are worse than
> Russian ones.
>
> We are grateful to Ukrainian participants and volunteers who have made the
> contest possible this year against the odds, as well as to international
> organizers for their hard work in supporting the largest photo contest in
> the Wikimedia ecosystem.
>
> Best regards,
> Olga Milianovych
> Member of the organizing committee for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine
>
> (Disclaimer: Antanana is a member of the Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
> organizing committee. Due to her currently serving on the Wikimedia
> Foundation Board of Trustees she recused herself from taking part in
> discussions and making decisions on this topic).
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photo eligibility

[Nicu Buculei]

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Neville Borg wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question regarding eligibility of photos - we are receiving many
> photos (mostly from one user) for monuments that are on our list, but are
> not uploaded through the WLM wizard. I suspect that this user is uploading
> them to participate in WLM but is used to uploading pictures in a certain
> manner and is unwilling to deviate from this.
>
> Are these photos still eligible, or are they to be ignored for the purpose
> of the contest?

Did you write on the rules for your national contest the photos must
be uploaded with the wizard? Normally it shouldn't be the case (some
people even use bots to upload their images).
This particular user adds the relevant data for the contest? Meaning
the monument identifier, the relevant categories, templates  and
such...  if so, then the uploads should be eligible. If not, you can
contact the uploader, inform about the mistakes and maybe offer a bit
of help, is up to you.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The winners of the international contest...

[Nicu Buculei]

OK, the social thing on twitter was kind of cute, but can we have a
proper list somewhere on Commons or the website so we can put a
reference link in announcements?

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On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Racso  wrote:
> These images won Wiki Loves Monuments 2015. You won't believe what #7 shows:
>
> @wikimonuments
>
> El dic 7, 2015 6:36 AM, Pierre-Selim  escribió:
>>
>> Ahahah you are teasing us, nice trick :)
>>
>> Le 7 décembre 2015 à 12:31, Ilario Valdelli  a écrit :
>>>
>>> ...follow Twitter:
>>>
>>> @wikimonuments
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ilario Valdelli
>>> Wikimedia CH
>>> Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
>>> Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre
>>> Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera
>>> Switzerland - 8008 Zürich
>>> Wikipedia: Ilario
>>> Tel: +41764821371
>>> http://www.wikimedia.ch
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia
 wrote:
> Just a quick watching of the available pictures promoted to the
> international phase and some questions, comments, remarks...
[...]
> Pictures with watermarks:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baldunngan.jpg

Note that the respective watermark falls under "discouraged", not
"unacceptable": https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Watermarks



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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Enc: Re: Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Rodrigo Padula wrote:
> Same thing here in Brasil.
>
> During WLE some people posted pictures accepting the CC-BY-SA license but
> added "All rights reserved" on the watermarks :-)

This is something worth to investigate: they didn't understand (or
didn't notice) the license requirement, or due to laziness left
unchanged the pictures they already had with a watermark on them?

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Enc: Re: Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:07 PM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia wrote:
> Watermarking is just an example of disparate rules that make the
> international phase not equal for every country. Besides the watermarking
> issue (personally I see it as the less severe issue), there should be a
> common set of rules for all the countries contesting. As I've told
> previously, there are pictures that do not belong to a monument at all,
> countries posting more than ten pictures or providing images of elements of
> movable heritage (when the remaining countries only consider immovable
> heritage items). Unless the same rules apply to every country (for providing
> images for the international phase) the international contest is definitely
> flawed (again, it's up to each country organization to set the rules for the
> national contests, however, the international one should follow a single set
> of common rules).

Actually no, these are not important issues:
- for the pictures that do not belong to any monument (which is
probably only one, from Egypt), I am sure the international jury will
have the wisdom to give it a small score;
- there are no country with more than 10 pictures. France listed 3
special prizes beyond their top 10, but those 3 are clearly out of the
international contest;
- if there are pictures of furniture, not building interiors, also I
am sure the jury will judge them correctly;
- movable, immovable heritage, this is a federative contest and it was
up to each country to define its list of monuments.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, LilyOf TheWest wrote:
>
> It would be good if Lodewijk can clarify what's happening in this case. We
> (Iran) had to use a rule to break ties or otherwise we would end up with 11
> pictures. If going beyond 10 is an option, I'd like to discuss it a bit more
> to make sure we give our participants the same chance other countries are
> providing to theirs. :)

Look at the page, nobody provided more than 10 pictures:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_winners

Indeed, France listed 13, but there are 10 of them marked as 1st -
10th and then 3 "special prizes". Of course only the first 10 go to
the international contest:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_winners#France



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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:39 AM, LilyOf TheWest wrote:
>
> Here are the two examples we ran into in Iran's contest this year:
>
> 1) We had two questions early on about the unlisted monuments and whether
> people can upload photos for those. The two examples that I heard were the
> Caspian Sea (which resonates with the Nile river photo) and Milad Tower in
> Tehran. In both cases, I told the users that they cannot upload these photos
> as part of the contest since they are not registered. (Milad Tower is one of
> the most iconic towers/buildings in Tehran and I would count it as a
> monument if the formal registration wasn't a concern.)

This is a contest, so it's important to have a level playing field for
all the participants: draw the line before it starts (define a list, a
criteria or such) and accept for the contest only what's in.
Otherwise, some people will (rightfully) be disappointed.

> 2) We ran into an uploaded photo of a monument with no ID, too, and we
> decided to keep it. Here is a longer version of the story and how we decided
> to move forward:
>
> We have the Cyrus' tomb as part of the top 10 photos with no monument ID
> associated with it. In this case, Pasargadae which is an area that includes
> the Cyrus' tomb has a monument ID, but Cyrus' tomb itself seems not to have
> one, and we decided that we can consider the photo from Cyrus' tomb as a
> photo of Pasargadae, and then later figure out if it needs to be registered
> on its own as well or not. But, we didn't manually add the ID to the photo.
> In this case, it seems to us that it was confusing to the uploader what
> monument he/she had to choose (all the uploaders' other photos are
> associated with monument IDs), and it seemed the uploader had decided to go
> ahead and upload anyway. We accepted this upload.

Give the Tomb the monument ID for Pasargadae, since it is a part of
it, a detail For example, if you have a house which is a monument, a
photo with a detail from it (a door, a window or such) will get the ID
for the whole house, is the same thing as with your case.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Non-monuments winning?

[Nicu Buculei]

I think we need a bit of input from the national teams. It's possible
those *are* monuments, but the uploaders made a mistake and forgot to
add the identifier - this looks very likely at least in the case of
the Brazil photo.
Sure, the national teams are at fault for not running a simple check,
but it may be an easy to correct fault.

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Lodewijk  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wonder, in some of the international nominees (beautiful pictures again
> btw, congratulations), there are some where there is no identified monument
> available. For example, there is a photo of the Nile river without any
> identified monument, and in Brazil a photo of the Army headquarters without
> identified monument.
>
> I have my doubts about such photos - while they are of good quality, if
> there is no identified monument, I wonder if they should be disqualified for
> the international prizes.
>
> I would value your thoughts on this. Maybe it doesn't come up at all (I
> don't know how high up they will end), maybe it does.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] connection refused when using UploadWizard

[Nicu Buculei]

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 8:09 AM, LilyOf TheWest wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>>
>> If it works trough VPN, then most likely is your ISP at fault.
>
> based on the discussion on this thread so far, I'm leaning towards thinking
> that the problem is not in UploadWizard's end or the servers. I'll report
> back if I find out more.


A VPN works like an encrypted tunnel that goes trough your ISP to a
different one and then you access the internet like you are a customer
of the other ISP.
A main use for VPNs is whn there is a content filtering or a
configuration issue at your ISP, so you use the VPN to go around that.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] connection refused when using UploadWizard

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:47 PM, LilyOf TheWest wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Some users from inside Iran have experienced problems uploading pictures
> using UploadWizard. We'd like to understand if this can be a problem on the
> server end and/or if this is something you've had experience with in the
> past?

The first steps when debugging such a problem are using ping and
traceroute, to see if you can reach the server and if not, where it
stops.

> Here is what we have learned so far:
>
> 1) At some hours of the day the uploading works just fine, at some hours it
> doesn't (and we can't figure out regularities in the hour patterns). The
> tests are done using the same ISP, OS, and browser for consistency.

By the contrary, try to use a different ISP to learn if the problem is
on the server or on your end.

If it works trough VPN, then most likely is your ISP at fault.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM PA Jury Tool Grant Dropped

[Nicu Buculei]

There was a jury tool working quite well for Wiki Loves Earth
(http://jury.wikilovesearth.org.ua/auth), can't this be adapted for
those in need of one for WLM? It looks like it needs only new branding
and a new set of users.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
 wrote:
> Lodewijk, 14/09/2015 21:55:
>>
>> sorry to hear! I hope the change in circumstances is a positive one.
>
>
> +1 and thanks for warning us with some advance.
>
> Nemo
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Nicu Buculei]

On 8/19/15, Andrea Zanni wrote:

 This year the conflict is on the whole month of September, and WLM in Italy
 will definitely suffer (as it does also in normal conditions ;-).
 This is a pity because:
 * FR decided to use September months ago, and they are now in a rush and
 cannot really change their plans
 * WMIT decided to run WLM on September months ago as well, as it has done
 for the past 4 years. WMIT also declared his plans on WLM in the FDC
 appplication, reviewed in May. Knowing also that last year there was the
 same issue, it's fair to say, I hope, that from WMIT part there was no lack
 of communication.

Correction: WMIT didn't decide to run WLM on September, they run it in
September because it runs *worldwide* in September. There's no other
time period when it can happen.
In an ideal world, FR would have made the simple check to learn if
there is something else happening in their desired time slot. Even if
WLMIT would not happen this year, the FR banner would hurt WLM,
because people from IT can participate to WLM in different other
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Does this article exist in your language?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 Great news! In the mean while on 3 different Wikipedias an article has been
 written about Freedom of Panorama: Croatian, Lithuanian and Esperanto.

There is also https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertate_de_panoram%C4%83

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Does this article exist in your language?

[Nicu Buculei]

I speak Romanian but for the moment I lack the time to work on it.
However, I put a call for help for the local community:
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cafenea#Libertatea_panoramei


On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which European languages do not have an article about this subject?

 * Icelandic
 * Norwegian
 * Danish
 * Lithuanian
 * Belarusian
 * Croatian
 * Romanian
 * Albanian
 * Turkish
 * Maltese

 Any other European languages missing an article about it?

 Do we know users who speak one of these languages and can write/translate an
 article about this subject of Freedom of Panorama?

 Romaine



 2015-06-27 12:28 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com:

 Romaine Wiki wrote:
 Does your language Wikipedia have an article about Freedom of Panorama
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama?
 
 This public right is often not as such recognised, also often unknown or
 considered naturally, but enables mankind in many countries to freely
 publicize pictures of modern buildings and public art.
 
 I think it would be good if Wikipedia has an article in many many
 languages about this public right, so that the public can be informed
 about this subject.
 
 Does your language Wikipedia cover this topic?

 Hi.

 Yep, it looks like my language Wikipedia (English) has an article.

 And https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918113#sitelinks-wikipedia tracks
 which other Wikipedias have similar articles. :-)

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 1 000 000

[Nicu Buculei]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Sylvain Machefert smachef...@gmail.com wrote:
 ok, these two answers seem to show that the best way is to say we've reached
 the million mark around 15th september and not try to find the millionth
 picture :) Thanks for your input.

Announcing a number with no picture would be boring.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

[Nicu Buculei]

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:

 Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view
 and contribute video on Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be
 offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support
 current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

I am sorry, I know this is not the place for the debate, but you
expose here an unilateral and biased view, in fact supporting MP4 can
do real harm to the open web, by weakening the really free/open
alternatives.

 Currently, open video files cannot be viewed on many mobile devices or web
 browsers without extra software, making it difficult or impossible for
 several hundred million monthly visitors to watch videos on our sites.

Then let's lobby the device makers to support the open formats, it
won't add any cost for them but provide more value for their
customers.

I'm shutting my mouth now and go talk/vote in the proper place :)

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Winner of the Europeana Special Category

[Nicu Buculei]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Àlex Hinojo wrote:
 Hi,

 there will be an official Europeana's blog post about it published today or
 tomorrow. As Nicu already mentioned, the winner information is already
 published on the voting page, so you can tweet share it if you like. I'll
 send it to the list once published.

 I'll also email Lodewijk a blog post proposal to be published in our WLM
 blog

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Winner of the Europeana Special Category

[Nicu Buculei]

Oh, sorry, I was checking the Europeana blog

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 It's been published that same day on
 http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/special-award-first-world-war-winner/ :)

 Best,
 Lodewijk


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 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Àlex Hinojo wrote:
  Hi,
 
  there will be an official Europeana's blog post about it published today
  or
  tomorrow. As Nicu already mentioned, the winner information is already
  published on the voting page, so you can tweet share it if you like.
  I'll
  send it to the list once published.
 
  I'll also email Lodewijk a blog post proposal to be published in our WLM
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Winner of the Europeana Special Category

[Nicu Buculei]

The image has the most votes in the Facebook contest
(https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.571728856226340.1073741839.313827812016447type=1)
still we need an official statement (on the Europeana blog perhaps) to
have something to link forward.

PS: since the photo/monument is from my country, I am particularly
interested in reblogging this news item, so I am looking forward for
an official announcement.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Sylvain Machefert smachef...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there an official announcement ? Can we tweet / blog about it ?

 Thanks.


 2013/11/19 Àlex Hinojo alexhin...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I'm glad to announce you the winner of the Europeana's special category
 award on Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 (WWI related monuments):


 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cimitirul_osta%C8%99ilor_germani_4.JPG

 Looking forward to collaborating again next year.

 Best,

 Àlex Hinojo


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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Romanian winners are in

[Nicu Buculei]

We have the finalists for Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in Romania:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_winners#Romania

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UK competition rules and awards

[Nicu Buculei]

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Michael Maggs wrote:
 Hi all

 As this is the first time that the UK has participated in the competition, 
 we’re having to draft our national rules and list of awards from scratch.   
 Our current thoughts are set out at

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_United_Kingdom/Competition_rules

 and I’d really appreciate any feedback from those of you who have previous 
 experience and can perhaps point out any potential pitfalls in our draft.

My feedback is totally positive: I read your rules page and like it a
lot, well done! There's nothing I would add to it. In my country
(Romania) we have no freedom of panorama, so we had to include that
restriction, but is not your case.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 7 Most Endangered monuments in Europe

[Nicu Buculei]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Europa Nostra published a list of 14 most endangered monuments in Europe.
 From these they will select the 7 most endangered ones. You can find it at
 http://www.europanostra.org/7-most-endangered/ . Maybe fun to write some
 articles about these? They might be willing to include links to the articles
 if we have these available.


The Roșia Montana case in Romania is a very heated debate with both
sides being very aggressive and misleading with a lot of FUD thrown
around. I can't come with an objective article about it, nor want to
take part in FUD spreading.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Fwd: WLM Moldova

[Nicu Buculei]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Ynhockey wrote:

 There above are the major virtual steps that need to be taken. Some of the
 real-life steps were outlined above and essentially consist of partnering
 with your local heritage authority, gathering volunteers, having events,
 promoting your competition, etc.

Also do not forget to contact legal and secure the rights to use the
Wikipedia trademarks.

 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Giku Promitt wrote:

 Hello.

 Is there any chance I can get advised on this matter? We have to give it a
 start - it's March already.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup

[Nicu Buculei]

On 10/01/2012 03:51 AM, Jason Spriggs wrote:

Note, all country accounts that you are emailed are ADMIN accounts for
your country. Please do not send out this account but instead go to
http://wlm.wmflabs.org/**/create_user.php where ** is your countries 2
letter ID.


Please make an account for Romania too. Country code: RO

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup

[Nicu Buculei]

On 10/01/2012 03:30 AM, Ynhockey wrote:

Oscar:
Regarding thumbnail size: it was originally supposed to be modifiable
per country but not it's only modifiable globally. Jason made it better
for smaller screens per your request. However, eventually I'd like it to
be per-country again, but it's probably not urgent at the moment (let me
know if it is ;) ).


Is not urgent, as we will need a couple of days anyway to get familiar 
with the tool, but once the real filtering starts, it will be needed.


Considering many countries have thousands or tens of thousands of 
pictures, browsing them will take a while, so 12 thumbnails per page as 
in the demo is low, the filtering will take a long while.



Regarding ease of use: I'm sure that some things can be done for ease of
use, but when making the first level what I had in mind is that it
should be easy to change your mind. The idea is, once you accept or
reject an image, you can't change your mind (unless you have direct DB
access). So the 'update' button was added in the first place to avoid a
situation where people would accept/reject images by accident. What
Israel will do (and from what I understand, other countries did the same
last year), is to get a team of dedicated and trustworthy organizers to
do the filtering stage. I am of course open to ideas about the general
workings of this stage, although rewriting the whole thing is probably
not the best thing to do since you need to be start using it right away.


Here are some usability suggestions:
- at first it was un-intuitive for me to discover the update decisions 
button. now that i discovered it, i know what to do, but a bit of 
scrolling is still needed;
- also I have to acknowledge I was confused at first with the position 
of the accept and reject icons, a few times I clicked on the wrong 
ones, I expected them to be below the pictures but they were at the top;
- the filtering is going to be used my more people at the same time. One 
user will browse the images, accept some, reject some but also defer 
some, leaving the decision for others. A faster way to navigate the 
images is needed, perhaps in the footer in addition to  Start ||  
Previous || Next  some way to jump to page N.


For the second stage, image rating, I only saw a screenshot so far so 
for now I have a single request: a more fine-grained noting system. When 
the jury is small, only 1-5 stars is to little and will produce a lot of 
collisions, multiple image with the same score.
Last year in my country we had every member of the jury give an image 3 
scores from 1 to 10 for different criteria: artistic quality, technical 
quality and usefulness for Wikipedia and made a pondered sum (50%, 30%, 
20%) for a final note for each person.
While this may be overkill for the global competition and juries in 
every country, moving to 1-5 stars is way too little. I will think a bit 
more about how comfortable a 1-10 rating per image is.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Help for importing some pics from Flickr

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/28/2012 06:09 AM, Racso wrote:

Hello. Guillermo Vasquez (mega...@outlook.com
mailto:mega...@outlook.com), a colombian participant, would like his
Flickr pictures to be imported to Commons. He sent me an e-mail asking
for help with the process. Can any bot controller help us with that? Any
help will be greatly appreciated!


Is relatively easy, you can do it yourself:
https://toolserver.org/~magnus/flickr2commons.php

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Problem with some localized wizards

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On 09/20/2012 01:46 PM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote:


Poland was also affected, but actully it seems that the bug is fixed.


Indeed, it works for me now.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] open source software for running the competition

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/14/2012 12:13 PM, Mike Dupont wrote:

Well i want to make a simple solution.
Of course we will collect under cc-by-sa 3.0/gfdl and not give them
any other option.
Also I will give people one extra vote if they upload directly to the commons.

I am working on something code right now, not ready.
Basic idea is to implement the various web apis like facebook photo
api so that we can use applications like shotwell directly. I am
working right now on shotwell/facebok rest api.


I don't understand this, if you want to make the uploads directly from 
Shotwell, why upload to Facebook and then import to Commons instead of 
uploading directly to Commons?


Also, I think is a bit late now to think about uploading tools, the 
contest will close in a couple of weeks and then, starting with October 
1, the main concern will be to consolidate everything on Commons and 
start the jury process.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] open source software for running the competition

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/14/2012 12:37 PM, Mike Dupont wrote:


I tried to get people to upload to commons at our bootcamp
http://kosovoinnovations.org/yap/digital-bootcamp and it failed, we
had IP blocking of new users, we had the uploader failing, it was
horrible and a waste of time.  I need a solution that works and we can
control and debug. also the wiki was running slow.


Mi experience was the total opposite, I talked recently with the top 
uploader from my country (Andrei_kokelburg, with 1366 images so far [and 
growing] currently the 6th global uploader) who is a *first time* 
Wikipedia contributor and tried to suggest him better tools like 
Commonist. His reply was the standard uploader is easy and good, he does 
not need anything else.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photos with watermarks

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/07/2012 11:08 AM, Samat wrote:

The Hungarian national contest prohibited watermarks for images last
year (and personally I don't like pictures with watermark).


I don't like them either, but I think is better to have watermarked 
images than no images at all, at least we can clean them.



In Wikimedia Commons:
*
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Watermarks#Reasons_not_to_upload_watermarked_images


Here are good reasons to not watermark and may be an useful resource to 
point the offenders to.



*
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_guidelines#Image_page_requirements


This guideline is for *featured* or *quality* images, not for all images.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photos with watermarks

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/07/2012 12:35 AM, Андрій Бондаренко wrote:

Hi everyone,

Recently one of our participant asked me - could I upload photos with
watermarks? He argues that he loose original versions (without
watermarks) and  their removing demands to much time. What should I
answer him? Are photos with watermarks (as theese
http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?language=commonsproject=wikimediacategories=Images_with_watermarksnegcats=Images+from+Wiki+Loves+Monuments+2012ns[6]=1ext_image_data=1doit=1)
allowed?


I had a look at a few random images there and I can identify a few cases:
- real watermarks (didn't find any in the examples) are when a big 
watermark covers a large and important part of the image, making it 
unusable (think at the preview images from stock photography sites). 
those CAN'T be allowed;
- signatures, small watermarks in an unobtrusive part of the image (most 
of the time in a corner). I allow those but discourage them by 
explaining the uploaders that grace to our free license, anyone is 
allowed to remove them, so is useless;
- some photos have the date watermarked in a corner, this probably 
happened most of the time in-camera and are unintentional. I feel them 
annoying but harmless;
- i saw a few cases the name of an educational institution there. For 
those I would ask the uploader if the image is really free (it may be an 
internal policy to watermark everything at it may forbid derivatives).


So in conclusion I do not like watermarks, would alow some, would forbid 
some, would question further some. Case by case.


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[Wiki Loves Monuments] video tutorial

[Nicu Buculei]

I made a video tutorial about contributing to the Romanian contest:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cum_se_contribuie_la_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012.ogv
Is a video, so it can't pe translated/adapted for other communities, but 
others may reuse the idea.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] first day to total uploads ratio

[Nicu Buculei]

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Peter Ekman wrote:
 I'm trying to get a rough estimate of the number of uploads to expect
 for WLM-US.
 One way would be to look at last year's first day total uploads and
 compare it to last years total uploads for the month (~169,000
 overall).  So if the ratio was 1:50, I'd just multiply the 1st day
 uploads in the US by 50.

As other said, just relax and wait a bit more. We can't make an
accurate estimation, this year the first day was a Saturday, last year
it was a Thursday. You will probably see the a difference of uploads
form a holiday to a work day (if is up or down it may vary from
community to community, but there will be a difference).
Also, you will see the upload progression is not linear, in my country
it accelerated hugely in the last week and the last night of the last
day was huge, the progression by week was like this:
http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/wlmro-graph-basic.png
I would say: make a conservative estimation and let the community
surprise you in a positive way :)

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[Wiki Loves Monuments] promo graphics

[Nicu Buculei]

I made a couple of promo banners for the Romanian WLM 2012 campaign, 
sources are available to Commons and should be easy to edit/translate/reuse:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Afis_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Banner_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012.svg

For easy license, all photos are made by me and were also submitted as 
part of WLM 2011.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] CC-BY on Facebook

[Nicu Buculei]

On 08/16/2012 11:12 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote:

Hi Matthew,
I'd take the freedom to disagree with you; as far as I know, the CC
BY-SA licence (version 3.0, but also all the previous ones) does not
require linking to its text (at
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/), not to mention
pasting the whole text.

The only requirement is to attribute the author in the way specified
by him/her, and in our case most of the time this means to mention the
name of the author and the name of the licence. But taking into
consideration Facebook's Terms of Use, it would obviously be safer to
link to the licence, agreed.


Attributing the author is *not* the only requirement, we are talking 
about CC-BY-SA, not about CC-BY. You have to also keep the license and 
*write* that too.



On the other side, I would really like to see a legal case against
Facebook, because it really seems weird if they could get a
non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide
licence for all content that is uploaded to their servers, especially
if they could overrule a free licence like CC BY-SA simply by having
such a phrase in their Terms of Use.



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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Jury voting

[Nicu Buculei]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Peter Ekman wrote:
 It seems to me that you can't possibly give a jury a 1,000 photos and expect
 them to come up with anything reasonable.  That type of system would also
 drive away quality jurors - the best jurors simply wouldn't have time for
 all that.  And if we're talking about 10,000 photos, it just gets worse.
  There has to be some sort of pre-screening, whether we like it or not.

A jury put in front of 1000 or more photos would have a difficult job,
but with a pre-screening you can get to a few hundreds of images and a
reasonable amount of work.

 A couple of suggestions for pre-screening:
 1.  Let the photographer decide which of his photos is best - say 1 for the
 entire contest or 1 for each day he/she uploads.
 2. Have a contest each day, with a each photographer who uploaded that day
 nominating a single photo, and letting the community vote (I'd say +1 for
 each photo you like) then after a few days a selected screener from the
 community selects 2 or 3 photos from the group that has the highest score.
  After 30 days, you'd have 60-90 photos that the jury can deal with, each
 photog would have had the chance to nominate his best photos (multiple
 times), the community would have their say, and the screeners would not have
 to deal with 1,000s of photos.

Something like that would require a large organizational effort and a
large community, which is not the case for most of the participating
countries. Small teams and small communities will have to Keep It
Simple and Stupid. [1]


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] jury process - easy and neat?

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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bas vb  wrote:
 No voter will watch all images (or maybe not even a big part), so I think a
 public voting system will only work with lists up to a maximum of 500
 pictures. Watching 10.000 pictures (and some will have 50k) just takes quite
 some time (1-2 days).

 Last year I scrolled to the categories (looking 200 pictures in 10 seconds),
 every picture that I liked or jumped out was then opened in a new tab by me,
 and if I liked the picture I copied the link and added it to a page with
 wikistyle pictures on big size (700px) this page I watched in preview edit
 mode and this way narrowed down the selection.

Something like that is what we used for the jury pre-screening, we had
the jury members to look at the category pages as thumbnails and make
a selection from there. The links to individual image pages were
collected and we produced the final voting selection with a reasonable
amount of images. More people doing this, and the selection will be
balanced.

 I think a basic but strong to tool to speed this up very much is to skip the
 copy the link and place it somewhere else part of that and make that a
 simple mouseclick.

I had the people making the selection copy the image URL from the
address bar copy and paste it into a text file, send it when ready. A
web app can be a helpful replacement for that, but keep in mind one
aspect: jury members may NOT be regular Wikipedia contributors and NOT
have an account, so it have to 1. work without login and 2. keep their
work together somehow.

 so you start with a huge category, you go throught that page by page (200
 pictures a time), and select those that you like (the add pictures to list
 mode). These will then show in a list (where you can pick the pixel size),
 there you have a delete mode to delete pictures not good enough. The only
 thing is, no saving on Commons should be involved because
 participants/everybody shouldn't see what the juries select (at least not to
 soon).

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Jury voting

[Nicu Buculei]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Racso wrote:
 1. I agree with Peter. There should be a reasonable limit for uploads; If
 there is not, each participant will be free to take dozens of photos of the
 same monument and upload them all to see if any of them is lucky!
 The limit must be put with caution, however, as we won't like to lose
 valuable photos.
 Here, in Colombia, we are considering to put a limit of 10 (maybe even 5)
 photos per monument per participant. That way, each participant still can
 send unlimited photos, but they would have to be of different monuments.

Last year in my country we had one user submitting like this, *a lot*
of pictures, sometime over 60, for the same monument, with some of
them almost identical, not adding anything new. I think this was
useless, but respected his will to put into the commons every little
detail (he's also an article contributor to Wikipedia, so he may want
to cover special things).

I personally do not want to limit in any way the contributions, if
people want to donate, let them do it. But they should not expect a
prize for that, I want to reward quality more than quantity.

This year for some monuments I plan to send myself up to 10 different
pictures, since some are big and deserve it (but my photos won't enter
the contest, I am an organizer and a member of the local jury).

 2. However, I think that even 4000 is a reasonable number for a jury IF some
 kind of supporting system (like the ones mentioned before) is used.

We had close to 6000 images and judging was NOT a pain.

 3. Be careful when involving the community for selecting, as we don't want
 to transform this into a popularity contest. Extreme case: people giving 10
 to their friends photos, and 1 to everything else.

This is not democracy, is meritocracy. With popular vote you may end
with the *good* images out of the selection, just look at how such
contests happen on facebook where the contestants fight with their
friends numbers and getting likes. I prefer a jury who understand
what a photo is and what a historical monument is.

 4. Comment: check Worth 1000's voting karma
 system: http://all.worth1000.com/faq#voting. Something like that could be
 implemented when designing open-voting systems.



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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Libre Graphics Meeting

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For those who are interested, here are the slides I prepared for the 
presentation:

http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/slides/lgm2012-WikiLovesMonuments.pdf

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On 04/13/2012 12:14 PM, Lodewijk wrote:

Hi Nicu,

a lot of data is actually out there already, just not very well
organized (and if it is not out there, you or someone else could
probably produce it). If you know what data you need, others could
perhaps help you find it.

Best,
Lodewijk

El 13 de abril de 2012 10:57, Nicu Buculei escribió:

Libre Graphics Meeting is the conference for people involved in Free
graphics software and this year is taking place in Vienna, 2-5 May.

http://libregraphicsmeeting.__org/2012/
http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/

I will be there and submitted a talk proposal about WLM, it was
accepted and scheduled for 4 May at 17:30:
http://libregraphicsmeeting.__org/2012/program/
http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/program/

My plan is to focus on my personal experience in Romania but also
talk about the international competition and the importance of
Wikipedia and Free Culture.

Don't ask for the slides, they are not written yet :) The most
difficult part for me will be the scarcity of statistic data about 2011.


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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Romania is in for WLM 2012

[Nicu Buculei]

We decided, Romania will participate again this year to Wiki Loves 
Monuments. We don't have any sponsors yet, but at least will reuse the 
infrastructure from the last year, so I expect a smooth start.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Romania

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Libre Graphics Meeting

[Nicu Buculei]

On 04/26/2012 11:07 AM, Lodewijk wrote:

Hi Nicu,

thanks a lot for sharing! Can you please also upload it to Wikimedia
Commons? That way we can include all these WLM-related presentations in
a category and learn from each other.


Is up:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lgm2012-WikiLovesMonuments.pdf


El 26 de abril de 2012 09:32, Nicu Buculei escribió:

For those who are interested, here are the slides I prepared for the
presentation:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/__slides/lgm2012-__WikiLovesMonuments.pdf



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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Libre Graphics Meeting

[Nicu Buculei]

Libre Graphics Meeting is the conference for people involved in Free 
graphics software and this year is taking place in Vienna, 2-5 May.


http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/

I will be there and submitted a talk proposal about WLM, it was accepted 
and scheduled for 4 May at 17:30:

http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/program/

My plan is to focus on my personal experience in Romania but also talk 
about the international competition and the importance of Wikipedia and 
Free Culture.


Don't ask for the slides, they are not written yet :) The most difficult 
part for me will be the scarcity of statistic data about 2011.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Video about Wiki Loves Monuments 2011

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On 12/22/2011 07:54 PM, Bastien wrote:

 With subtitles (french, english):

http://www.universalsubtitles.org/fr/videos/xnGpy1BeWK7m/info/

 (If you want to add subtitles in your own language, please do!)

That's cool! I added Romanian subtitles.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments was crap, it's high time to admit it!

[Nicu Buculei]

On 12/12/2011 10:40 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
 2011/12/12 Yaroslav M. Blanterpute...@mccme.ru:
 I think this is a good direction, but I can not support the proposal in
 this form. What if we have just one crappy image? What if we have the image
 of the exterior, would we need the image of the interior? What if we have
 several monuments under one code?

 Let's put it a bit stronger. I would never support such a proposal. I
 support positive steering (we encourage you to upload photo's of
 monuments that not yet have a (good) picture), not negative steering
 (WLM2011 we limit the eligible monuments to those without an image).

I am also *against* such a proposal for two reasons:
- putting too many rules and making it complicated, the result is making 
in not fun for the participants, so I expect a lot less people to 
participate. getting new people to start contributing is not one of the 
purposes?
- what if we have 10 not crap, but average pictures of certain monument 
and someone want to send the 11-th, which is *really good*, we 
discourage that?

On a constructive tone, I think this is easily solved at the jury level, 
just make the Wikipedia usefulness one of the noting criteria, even if 
the picture is wonderful done technically and artistically, if there are 
other reasonable pics of that monument on Commons, just don't give it 
the maximum score - in Romania the jury gave 3 notes: artistic, 
technical and usefulness, each pondered: 50%, 30%, 20%.

 Op 12-12-2011 21:31, Strainu schreef:

 Then you could just make a list of ineligible monuments. The problem
 is that without a clear rule, you will have trouble explaining this
 non-ok list to the participants. It's unfortunate that you have
 multiple monuments with the same code. In Romania, this is solved by
 appending 2 more digits at the end of the code. Perhaps you could
 generate an unofficial code using a similar algorithm?
 That borders original research.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Winners Wiki loves Monuments 2011 are known! (and request for translation)

[Nicu Buculei]

On 12/08/2011 06:37 PM, Bas vb wrote:
 Hello Everybody,

 The winners from Wiki loves monuments 2011 can be found at
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_winners

Can we have an announcement on http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/ so it 
looks more official?

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] deadline nominations approaching

[Nicu Buculei]

On 10/31/2011 01:24 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
 Romania have the nominees in commons:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_winners#Romania

Indeed, we had the results for Romania on Friday but kept silent until 
today, when the public announcements are scheduled, see also:
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WLM

 On 30 October 2011 23:21, Lodewijk wrote:

 Hi all,

 For the following countries I have received nominations for WLM
 Europe publicly:
 Sweden, Poland, Germany, Denmark, Portugal,
 For the following countries I have received nominations under embargo:
 Estonia, Netherlands, Andorra,

 *For the following countries I have *not* received nominations yet: *
 France, Spain, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Russia, Romania,
 Hungary, BelgiumLuxembourg

 Please note that the original deadline is in 24 hours!


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] deadline nominations approaching

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On 10/31/2011 10:19 AM, Lodewijk wrote:


thanks for the links! It would really be great if every country would be
able to write a short blog post about it for our wikilovesmonuments.eu
http://wikilovesmonuments.eu blog. I attached the html of the Danish
blogpost - you can use that to send us the html version of yours (also
in a txt file).


Thanks! Attached the text for the Romanian announcement.

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From the large number of submitted images, the a 
href=http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/juriu/;Romanian jury/a made a a 
href=the 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jury_selection_for_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_in_Romania;short
 selection/a of 284 finalists and then selected the a 
href=http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WLM;10 winners/a, based on 3 
criteria: technical merit, originality and usefulness for a 
href=http://wikipedia.org/;Wikipedia/a.

Here are our winners:

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=1. place: TIMISOARA - 
P-ta Unirii la rasarit]a title='By Antonius Plaian from Timisoara, Romania 
(Timisoara - Union Square at sunrise) [CC-BY-2.0 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ATimisoara_-_Union_Square_at_sunrise.jpg'img
 width='500' alt='Timisoara - Union Square at sunrise' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Timisoara_-_Union_Square_at_sunrise.jpg/500px-Timisoara_-_Union_Square_at_sunrise.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=2. place: Sfânta 
Treime church of Sibiu]a title='By _Monica__ (Spre lumină) [CC-BY-SA-2.0 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AInterior_al_Bisericii_parohiale_romano-catolice_%22Sf._Treime%22.jpg'img
 width='500' alt='Interior al Bisericii parohiale romano-catolice quot;Sf. 
Treimequot;' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Interior_al_Bisericii_parohiale_romano-catolice_%22Sf._Treime%22.jpg/500px-Interior_al_Bisericii_parohiale_romano-catolice_%22Sf._Treime%22.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=3. place: Ruins of 
Bociulesti]a title='By Apopida (Own work) [CC-BY-SA-3.0-ro 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ro/deed.en)], via Wikimedia 
Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ALa_Ruine_-_Bociulesti_-_Vedere_laterala.jpg'img
 width='240' alt='La Ruine - Bociulesti - Vedere laterala' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/La_Ruine_-_Bociulesti_-_Vedere_laterala.jpg/240px-La_Ruine_-_Bociulesti_-_Vedere_laterala.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=mention: Old city 
panorama]a title='By POPOVICI Dan Cristian (Own work) [CC-BY-SA-3.0-ro 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ro/deed.en)], via Wikimedia 
Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3APanorama_Centrul_Vechi_2.jpg'img
 width='500' alt='Panorama Centrul Vechi 2' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Panorama_Centrul_Vechi_2.jpg/500px-Panorama_Centrul_Vechi_2.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=mention: 
Mavros-Cantacuzino manor]a title='By Nicu Drăgan (Conacul 
Mavros-Cantacuzino) [CC-BY-SA-2.0 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AConacul_Mavros-Cantacuzino.jpg'img
 width='500' alt='Conacul Mavros-Cantacuzino' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Conacul_Mavros-Cantacuzino.jpg/500px-Conacul_Mavros-Cantacuzino.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=mention: Alba Iulia 
citadel gate]a title='By _Monica__ (Poarta) [CC-BY-SA-2.0 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3APoart%C4%83_-_Cetatea_Alba_Carolina.jpg'img
 width='500' alt='Poartă - Cetatea Alba Carolina' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Poart%C4%83_-_Cetatea_Alba_Carolina.jpg/500px-Poart%C4%83_-_Cetatea_Alba_Carolina.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=mention: Caraiman 
cross]a title='By Mihai Petre (Own work) [CC-BY-SA-3.0-ro 
(www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ro/deed.en)], via Wikimedia 
Commons' 
href='http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ACrucea_comemorativ%C4%83_a_Eroilor_rom%C3%A2ni_din_primul_r%C4%83zboi_mondial.jpg'img
 width='240' alt='Crucea comemorativă a Eroilor români din primul război 
mondial' 
src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Crucea_comemorativ%C4%83_a_Eroilor_rom%C3%A2ni_din_primul_r%C4%83zboi_mondial.jpg/240px-Crucea_comemorativ%C4%83_a_Eroilor_rom%C3%A2ni_din_primul_r%C4%83zboi_mondial.jpg'//a[/caption]

[caption id= align=aligncenter width=500 caption=mention: Densuș 
church]a title='By Jancsi Farkas (XIII century 

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Video How-to in Romanian

[Nicu Buculei]

On 09/01/2011 10:51 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 I made a video showing the upload process for the Romanian contest:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Incarcare-foto-wikilovesmonuments.ogv

 Unfortunately my video editor died (Kdenlive on Fedora) so I was unable
 to ad adnotations and soundtrack, but I hope the images are descriptive
 enough.

And a similar video for contributing with Flickr uploads:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Incarcare-flickr-WLM.ogv

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Video How-to in Romanian

[Nicu Buculei]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jane Darnell wrote:
 Nico,
 Thanks for that. I was curious myself how to upload to Flickr but just too
 lazy to try it. I really like how you have linked the monument lists

After trying both ways, I decided for myself is easier to upload to Commons.

 directly from your Particpate page on the web site. That is a really good
 idea!

To give credit were it's due, my colleague, Strainu had the idea to
put the monuments list there.

 Jane
  I saw a lot of good looking women in that batch of monuments!

Hehe, that was my normal flickr photostream, I am a people
photographer and just before the contest start returned from a
photography workshop at the sea side: fashion, glamour, nudes and
things like that, CC licensed but not for Wikipedia :)


 2011/9/2 Nicu Buculei wrote:

 On 09/01/2011 10:51 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
  I made a video showing the upload process for the Romanian contest:
 
  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Incarcare-foto-wikilovesmonuments.ogv
 
  Unfortunately my video editor died (Kdenlive on Fedora) so I was unable
  to ad adnotations and soundtrack, but I hope the images are descriptive
  enough.

 And a similar video for contributing with Flickr uploads:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Incarcare-flickr-WLM.ogv


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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Video How-to in Romanian

[Nicu Buculei]

I made a video showing the upload process for the Romanian contest:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Incarcare-foto-wikilovesmonuments.ogv

Unfortunately my video editor died (Kdenlive on Fedora) so I was unable 
to ad adnotations and soundtrack, but I hope the images are descriptive 
enough.

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